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Topic: Haleigh Cummings #4 3/04/09 - 3/08/09 (Read 302264 times)
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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GREAT SHOW DANA! LOVE ALL OF YOUR GUESTS!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Quote from: luckyday on March 05, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
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Have any of you been on the CSO board? Bleeding hearts for sure. Not too many true "sleuths". Just wondering.
No, I don't even know what CSO stands for.....I just post here and lurk other places.....what is CSO?
Crimesearchers
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Thanks for the link and info Lucky
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Thank you all for the warm welcome! I will share my nanners with ya!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Is that Dan S?? The one Misty took a ride with allegedly??
you mean literally or figuratively Yes, that's the one.....
What exactly do you want to know? Is it Daniel Snodgrass? Give me particulars if you can, like..is he an SO????
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Quote from: rana on March 05, 2009, 08:21:31 PM
I know dissecting calls and words are not everyone's cup of tea, but Im all about it..... the psych, neuro-linguistics, body language, meta-messages, word choice... Anyhoo, Susan Adams is a retired FBI agent, but other authors are mentioned as well.
"Dr. Susan Adams is a communications consultant and instructor with 28 years of teaching experience. She teaches counterintelligence, interviewing and interrogation,
detection of deception, interpersonal communication and linguistic text analysis.
Dr. Adams is a
retired FBI Agent who spent the last ten years of her FBI career instructing federal agents, law enforcement officers,
and international students at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. Dr. Adams also served as Acting Unit Chief of the Law Enforcement Communication Unit at the FBI Academy. "
"911 Calls and Statement Analysis," 2008
If it doesn't pop to the right place, scroll WAY down (past Tactical Teams, past Police Practice, past Unusual Weapons, past Leadership Spotlights etc to....
"911 Homicide Calls and Statement Analysis: Is the Caller the Killer?"
LINK HERE (below)
http://cicentre.com/intelligencespeakers/articles/sa_june08leb.pdf
WOW, Rana! This is an excellent and informative article! Great find!
Reading thru it, I saw some concerns with the 911 call made in this case. Will have to find a written copy of that again and put our thinking caps on!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Quote from: luckyday on March 05, 2009, 10:10:34 PM
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Is that Dan S?? The one Misty took a ride with allegedly??
you mean literally or figuratively Yes, that's the one.....
What exactly do you want to know? Is it Daniel Snodgrass? Give me particulars if you can, like..is he an SO????
He will be soon, we have the link to the crime that he was charged with
http://www.putnamsheriff.org/news/2007/12/20.html
Satsuma Man Arrested for Sex Crimes
by: Major Keith Riddick
Snodgrass A fifty-four year old South Putnam man has been arrested for sexually abusing a nine year old girl. Daniel E. Snodgrass of Betsy Ross Place in Satsuma was arrested by Putnam County Sheriff's Detective Ken Taylor after Detective Taylor led a team of other Sheriff's Office Detectives, assisted by a member of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement having computer crime expertise, in a search of Snodgrass' home. The search and arrest warrants were obtained after a two week investigation into allegations made by the child and her sixteen year old sister.
Snodgrass had been hired by the father of the girls to teach them how to ride the unicycle and said he "could get them into show business." This arrangement began in September of 2007. Snodgrass is accused of tying the nine year old to a bed and sexually abusing her. He is also accused of having both girls pose for photographs in lingerie and of fondling the sixteen year old on the outside of her clothing. The search warrant resulted in the seizure of two unicycles, various clothing articles, photos, and a computer. A forensic examination of the computer will be conducted by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement
Daniel E. Snodgrass remains in the Putnam County Jail without benefit of bond charged with one count of Capital Sexual Battery. Detective Taylor is continuing the investigation.
What I want to know is where does he keep his boat and has it been searched.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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March 05, 2009, 10:15:35 PM »
Quote from: Wyks on March 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: rana on March 05, 2009, 08:21:31 PM
I know dissecting calls and words are not everyone's cup of tea, but Im all about it..... the psych, neuro-linguistics, body language, meta-messages, word choice... Anyhoo, Susan Adams is a retired FBI agent, but other authors are mentioned as well.
"Dr. Susan Adams is a communications consultant and instructor with 28 years of teaching experience. She teaches counterintelligence, interviewing and interrogation,
detection of deception, interpersonal communication and linguistic text analysis.
Dr. Adams is a
retired FBI Agent who spent the last ten years of her FBI career instructing federal agents, law enforcement officers,
and international students at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. Dr. Adams also served as Acting Unit Chief of the Law Enforcement Communication Unit at the FBI Academy. "
"911 Calls and Statement Analysis," 2008
If it doesn't pop to the right place, scroll WAY down (past Tactical Teams, past Police Practice, past Unusual Weapons, past Leadership Spotlights etc to....
"911 Homicide Calls and Statement Analysis: Is the Caller the Killer?"
LINK HERE (below)
http://cicentre.com/intelligencespeakers/articles/sa_june08leb.pdf
WOW, Rana! This is an excellent and informative article! Great find!
Reading thru it, I saw some concerns with the 911 call made in this case. Will have to find a written copy of that again and put our thinking caps on!
I wanted to post chunks of it but didn't want to faux pas.
I saw the concerns as well, Wyks
Wish more would take a look at it (the article) cos I'm curious about feedback.
I have more, but don't want to be a snore. (...'fraid that ship has sailed, rana)
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Here is the link to the 911 call transcript
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/2/12/haleigh_911_transcript_part_1.html
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Quote from: luckyday on March 05, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
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Have any of you been on the CSO board? Bleeding hearts for sure. Not too many true "sleuths". Just wondering.
No, I don't even know what CSO stands for.....I just post here and lurk other places.....what is CSO?
Crimesearchers
www.crimesearchers.com
Is that the site mentioned in the firstcoast chat? if so, did many locals go there if you know.
thank you
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Reply #729 on:
March 05, 2009, 10:19:47 PM »
Quote from: Wyks on March 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: rana on March 05, 2009, 08:21:31 PM
I know dissecting calls and words are not everyone's cup of tea, but Im all about it..... the psych, neuro-linguistics, body language, meta-messages, word choice... Anyhoo, Susan Adams is a retired FBI agent, but other authors are mentioned as well.
"Dr. Susan Adams is a communications consultant and instructor with 28 years of teaching experience. She teaches counterintelligence, interviewing and interrogation,
detection of deception, interpersonal communication and linguistic text analysis.
Dr. Adams is a
retired FBI Agent who spent the last ten years of her FBI career instructing federal agents, law enforcement officers,
and international students at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. Dr. Adams also served as Acting Unit Chief of the Law Enforcement Communication Unit at the FBI Academy. "
"911 Calls and Statement Analysis," 2008
If it doesn't pop to the right place, scroll WAY down (past Tactical Teams, past Police Practice, past Unusual Weapons, past Leadership Spotlights etc to....
"911 Homicide Calls and Statement Analysis: Is the Caller the Killer?"
LINK HERE (below)
http://cicentre.com/intelligencespeakers/articles/sa_june08leb.pdf
WOW, Rana! This is an excellent and informative article! Great find!
Reading thru it, I saw some concerns with the 911 call made in this case. Will have to find a written copy of that again and put our thinking caps on!
That is VERY enlighting...maybe Brandi or Klaas could do a screen grab and post it, it does have great clue markers in that article..Go Rana
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Here's another Wyks, and all y'all....
“Are You Telling Me the Truth? Indicators of Veracity in Written Statements,” 2004
(If it doesn't pop-up just right - scroll way down past "Crisis Intervention" etc )
CI CENTER LINK
http://cicentre.com/intelligencespeakers/articles/sa_oct04leb.pdf
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Quote from: jules3699 on March 05, 2009, 10:16:42 PM
Here is the link to the 911 call transcript
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/2/12/haleigh_911_transcript_part_1.html
interesting what was brought up first on that phone call. I mean if my child was missing I would have said that first! MY CHILD HAS BEEN TAKEN!!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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No, no locals. Just some peeps who are kinda clueless IMO.
Re: Snodgrass. Did he recently get arrested? That article did not have an arrest date or when it was published.
Would be very difficult to find out if LE has searched it. Might not be that difficult to find out if a boat is registered to him, but it may not be registered in Putnum County, which would take hours to find out. Also, are we certain Misty went on a "ride" w/him? Source, please?
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Reply #733 on:
March 05, 2009, 10:23:53 PM »
Quote from: islandmonkey on March 05, 2009, 10:19:47 PM
Quote from: Wyks on March 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: rana on March 05, 2009, 08:21:31 PM
I know dissecting calls and words are not everyone's cup of tea, but Im all about it..... the psych, neuro-linguistics, body language, meta-messages, word choice... Anyhoo, Susan Adams is a retired FBI agent, but other authors are mentioned as well.
"Dr. Susan Adams is a communications consultant and instructor with 28 years of teaching experience. She teaches counterintelligence, interviewing and interrogation,
detection of deception, interpersonal communication and linguistic text analysis.
Dr. Adams is a
retired FBI Agent who spent the last ten years of her FBI career instructing federal agents, law enforcement officers,
and international students at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. Dr. Adams also served as Acting Unit Chief of the Law Enforcement Communication Unit at the FBI Academy. "
"911 Calls and Statement Analysis," 2008
If it doesn't pop to the right place, scroll WAY down (past Tactical Teams, past Police Practice, past Unusual Weapons, past Leadership Spotlights etc to....
"911 Homicide Calls and Statement Analysis: Is the Caller the Killer?"
LINK HERE (below)
http://cicentre.com/intelligencespeakers/articles/sa_june08leb.pdf
WOW, Rana! This is an excellent and informative article! Great find!
Reading thru it, I saw some concerns with the 911 call made in this case. Will have to find a written copy of that again and put our thinking caps on!
That is VERY enlighting...maybe Brandi or Klaas could do a screen grab and post it, it does have great clue markers in that article..Go Rana
OK sure IM....
I have a butt-load of these...
in the south we have a counting sytem.... 1..... 2..... 3..... and a butt-load .
I see jules has the transcript which we need, and do ya'll also have the 911 audio handy?
Thanks, jules.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Quote from: jules3699 on March 05, 2009, 10:22:06 PM
Quote from: jules3699 on March 05, 2009, 10:16:42 PM
Here is the link to the 911 call transcript
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/2/12/haleigh_911_transcript_part_1.html
interesting what was brought up first on that phone call. I mean if my child was missing I would have said that first! MY CHILD HAS BEEN TAKEN!!
Amen~Rana counted how many times he used "I was at work or just got home from work" during this call and the very first interview he did....RANA, what were those results ?
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Here's number 3
“Statement Analysis: What Do Words Really Reveal?” 1996 "What Do Suspects' Words Really Reveal?"
This begins with Susan Smith.
CI CENTER LINK
http://cicentre.com/intelligencespeakers/articles/sa_statement_analysis_1996.pdf
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Reply #736 on:
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Quote from: rana on March 05, 2009, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: Wyks on March 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: rana on March 05, 2009, 08:21:31 PM
I know dissecting calls and words are not everyone's cup of tea, but Im all about it..... the psych, neuro-linguistics, body language, meta-messages, word choice... Anyhoo, Susan Adams is a retired FBI agent, but other authors are mentioned as well.
"Dr. Susan Adams is a communications consultant and instructor with 28 years of teaching experience. She teaches counterintelligence, interviewing and interrogation,
detection of deception, interpersonal communication and linguistic text analysis.
Dr. Adams is a
retired FBI Agent who spent the last ten years of her FBI career instructing federal agents, law enforcement officers,
and international students at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. Dr. Adams also served as Acting Unit Chief of the Law Enforcement Communication Unit at the FBI Academy. "
"911 Calls and Statement Analysis," 2008
If it doesn't pop to the right place, scroll WAY down (past Tactical Teams, past Police Practice, past Unusual Weapons, past Leadership Spotlights etc to....
"911 Homicide Calls and Statement Analysis: Is the Caller the Killer?"
LINK HERE (below)
http://cicentre.com/intelligencespeakers/articles/sa_june08leb.pdf
WOW, Rana! This is an excellent and informative article! Great find!
Reading thru it, I saw some concerns with the 911 call made in this case. Will have to find a written copy of that again and put our thinking caps on!
I wanted to post chunks of it but didn't want to faux pas.
I saw the concerns as well, Wyks
Wish more would take a look at it (the article) cos I'm curious about feedback.
I have more, but don't want to be a snore. (...'fraid that ship has sailed, rana)
Great article rana......
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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March 05, 2009, 10:29:49 PM »
Quote from: luckyday on March 05, 2009, 10:23:00 PM
No, no locals. Just some peeps who are kinda clueless IMO.
Re: Snodgrass. Did he recently get arrested? That article did not have an arrest date or when it was published.
Would be very difficult to find out if LE has searched it. Might not be that difficult to find out if a boat is registered to him, but it may not be registered in Putnum County, which would take hours to find out. Also, are we certain Misty went on a "ride" w/him? Source, please?
He was arrested in 2007, December IIRC and he just this week went to trial.
I called Putnam County and St. Johns and those records aren't public due to homeland security issues, they have to be subpeoned. No, we aren't certain that Misty was with him, just rumors from Anna FL that she heard in Satsuma. Apparantly his ex wife has been saying that Misty was at the house alot for drugs, then when I learned he had a boat I just started wondering IF he could have snatched her and used the boat to get her out of the area.....he's a sick POS for sure.
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Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on March 05, 2009, 08:23:19 PM
Hi Wyks- Hope your feeling better.. I think Ron and Misty knows what happen that night..
I wonder if the blanket was a signal for someone to drop off drugs when the kids went to
bed...
Thanks Jerseygirl!
Yeah, I also think they know. And for sure, the blanket taken off the window could have been a signal for several different things!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #4
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Quote from: islandmonkey on March 05, 2009, 10:24:12 PM
Quote from: jules3699 on March 05, 2009, 10:22:06 PM
Quote from: jules3699 on March 05, 2009, 10:16:42 PM
Here is the link to the 911 call transcript
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/2/12/haleigh_911_transcript_part_1.html
interesting what was brought up first on that phone call. I mean if my child was missing I would have said that first! MY CHILD HAS BEEN TAKEN!!
Amen~Rana counted how many times he used "I was at work or just got home from work" during this call and the very first interview he did....RANA, what were those results ?
I don't want to guess, but I posted it here.
It was his first interview (where he fell on the ground) and it was several times in a short time; but I need to search and find the post with the counts and the times with the video clip.
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
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===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Pop Culture Main
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
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