THE PERSISTENCE - THE TRAP (DOCUMENT)

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MIXED MESSAGES?  DOUBLE STANDARD?

Natalee Holloway Case

WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Steph Watts:  .... So how does she interfere with an ongoing investigation?  She goes over there, confronts him, spooks him, scares him, gets him to tell them the story and now he doesn’t want to talk to you know the people he was talking to before.  He throws his hands up in the air and says all this is off...you guys sprung Beth on me.  That’s how she interferes with an ongoing investigation Tim Miller.  Agree or disagree?

Tim Miller:  I one hundred percent agree... I one hundred percent agree... I .. I think she should have...  Beth needs to understand, Beth is the mother, Beth is not the investigator.

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Tim Miller:  We’re searchers, we let the investigators do their job...

Transcript - Texasmom

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


Haleigh Cummings Case

NANCY GRACE
Aired October 14, 2009 - 20:00:00   ET

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: That`s right, Nancy. Donna Brock, who is a volunteer for Texas Equusearch, according to Tim Miller, was working all the time to get close to Misty so she could possibly glean information about what Misty may know happened to Haleigh. This was not known to police per se. She was not a, quote, "agent" of police. But she was working for Texas Equusearch in an attempt to find out what she could learn by getting close to Misty.

GRACE GRACE, HOST: OK. All right. Where all did Donna Brock go with Misty Croslin? Where did they travel?

HARRIS: Nancy, she picked her up in Satsuma and they went to Orlando. They wound up at Universal, Cocoa Beach. They were on the road when everyone thought Misty was on the run. But Tim Miller was wiring money for her to take Misty to get her hair done, her nails done, to try to get close to her. And Misty was really warming up very closely to Donna. So this was something that was working until the road rage incident outed them both.

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/14/ng.01.html

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MIXED MESSAGES?  DOUBLE STANDARD?

Exploitation?

WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Tim Miller:  .... And again I would like to say I believe this is in Natalee’s best interest... and I would believe that if she wouldn’t have went over there with film crews and reports are already out it’s about another documentary.  Money’s going to be paid.  I ... I (crosstalk) It is almost like exploiting...and I know I’m going to get criticism over this but it’s only my opinion and uhhh uhhh it’s almost like... I feel like she’s exploiting Natalee’s disappearance and death for financial gain.

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Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


The Persistence Search

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman:  Dateline (Tim Uelinger) had an agreement with Tim Miller to 'do a story to tell about and help promote TES and give TM recognition, and perhaps a 10 minute side-line story on Natalee along with 11 other missing persons. Dateline tagged along with TM for a while pre-NH search. They (TM and Dateline) came on the Persistence between 15-Dec and 30-Dec.

Kermit - Scared Monkeys

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MARC KLAAS

Nothing More - Nothing Less!

NANCY GRACE
Was Natalee`s Mother Just Arrested at Joran`s Prison?
Aired September 16, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

NANCY GRACE, HOST: We are taking your calls. I want to go out to Marc Klaas, president and founder of Klaas Kids Foundation. You had your daughter taken away from you, brutally.

MARC KLAAS, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: Yes.

GRACE: What do you think -- just like Beth Holloway. What do you think she`s doing over in that jail, making her way toward Van Der Sloot?

KLAAS: I know exactly what she`s doing there. She`s trying to find out what happened to her daughter, nothing more and nothing less. Now, she may have been brought in by these other people, but she needs to find out. She has been told lie after lie after lie after lie for five years now.

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1009/16/ng.01.html


A Fierce Mother!

NANCY GRACE
Was Natalee`s Mother Just Arrested at Joran`s Prison?
Aired September 16, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Nothing is cut and dry. And, in fact, I think that Beth has trusted in the justice system for five years, and I think this latest picture of this smirking little sadist Van Der Sloot in prison living the high life yet again, probably drove her to want to try to get some answers by herself.

She is in no sense of the word a vigilante. She is a fierce mother who wants to find out what happened to her daughter and has demonstrated time and time again she`s not going to let obstacles get in the way of her finding the truth.

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1009/16/ng.01.html

[Tamikosmom]

MIXED MESSAGES?  DOUBLE STANDARD?

Natalee Holloway Case

WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Steph Watts:  .... So how does she interfere with an ongoing investigation?  She goes over there, confronts him, spooks him, scares him, gets him to tell them the story and now he doesn’t want to talk to you know the people he was talking to before.  He throws his hands up in the air and says all this is off...you guys sprung Beth on me.  That’s how she interferes with an ongoing investigation Tim Miller.  Agree or disagree?

Tim Miller:  I one hundred percent agree... I one hundred percent agree... I .. I think she should have...  Beth needs to understand, Beth is the mother, Beth is not the investigator.

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Tim Miller:  We’re searchers, we let the investigators do their job...

Transcript - Texasmom

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


The Haleigh Cummings Case

Stepmom Allegedly Failed Polygraph
Posted: 11:03 am EDT August 27, 2009
Updated: 2:04 pm EDT August 27, 2009

Tim Miller says Misty came to him to help with a new search, because she wanted a chance to clear her name. So he set up an independent polygraph test for her.

Miller says Misty "failed it miserably." Misty agreed to take the tests even though her attorney told her not to. Miller says she also failed voice analysis and did not cooperate with a hypnosis test.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is hardly shocked. They say Misty's account of the night in February, when the then 5-year-old girl disappeared, is sketchy and full of holes.

Miller gave the tests results to investigators.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20581786/detail.html

[Tamikosmom]

Does Tim Miller really forget that it was a corrupt Aruban investigation that was H--- bent on protecting Joran and Paulus that hindered TES' search in Aruban waters for the remains of Natalee Holloway in the months following her disappearance or ... does Tim's silence encompassing the Persistence betrayal ... his his professional relationship with Silvetti and Shaefer as well as his disrespect of Beth Holloway imply that he has been influenced to become a participant to the Aruban cover up agenda?

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On the Record w / Greta
November 1, 2005

TIM MILLER: We actually had our team from Florida State University. Our underwater divers actually had a connection with somebody with the Navy who was willing to go ahead and bring their equipment. Gene Ralston, one of our members has equipment to go 800ft deep and he’s done a lot of stuff with the FBI and made those contacts. We gave Chief Dompig the phone number at the FBI. They were willing to bring their equipment. Gene was willing to bring his equipment. Everything just literally stopped. We had no clue what went wrong, our trip was basically in vain.


'The Abrams Report' for Nov. 1st
updated 11/2/2005 9:29:42 AM ET
 
DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S FATHER:  Well I arrived on the island on October the 18th and the following day I met with Dompig and he requested the assistance of the FBI, indicated that he would like for them to come back and utilize them as much as he could.  So we said well, we‘ll try to see if we can make that happen. 

In the meantime, he indicated that we needed to focus our search efforts into the ocean so you know, we‘re not going to waste any time.  So we took off along with Tim Miller with EquuSearch and had boats in the water I believe by the weekend and we soon realized that we would need the assistance of the FBI and some of their search equipment, so we forwarded an e-mail to Mr. Dompig on Wednesday, sometime Wednesday requesting that he make a phone call to the FBI so that we can get this underwater equipment. 

And I ended up having to leave the island on Thursday and then—and my reports back from those individuals who were left, they felt like the light had been turned out.  And so I followed up again Saturday with the same e-mail the you know we‘re all sitting on the bank and we cannot get in the water until we get the assistance of the FBI and that team finally had to leave this past Monday or Tuesday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9896554/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Jan. 12th
updated 1/13/2006 9:16:54 AM ET
 
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I think that it was in the—in October, possibly early November, when Tim Miller was trying to finish this search when, of course, the depth of the water exceeded his equipment. And that‘s when he was needing the officials on the island to contact or pick up the phone and make one phone call to the FBI for some additional equipment. And they refused to do that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10836208/

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[Tamikosmom]

Everything was absolutely fine UNTIL Natalee was found in the cage. Silvetti and Tim have bestest buddies ever since. Tim wasn't duped -- he was bought off. -JMO

Was Tim Miller's silence regarding the trap bought?  Did it paved the way for ongoing funding by Silvetti and Shaeffer to support his organization through corporate sponsorships?

Did Tim justified his betrayal of Natalee and the family in the latest Steph Watts' interview?

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WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Tim Miller:  I’m mad too and you know what Steph, I want the Caylee Anthony and Natalee Holloway cases to go away. ....

I don’t know why...I don’t know why...Casey Anthony and Beth Holloway are the big stories.  People, you need to get somethin’...Caylee and Natalee are not the only two people that have ever been abducted and murdered.  Those are not the only two people that have suffered.

Transcript - Texasmom

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe

TEXAS EQUUSEARCH
MOUNTED SEARCH AND RECOVERY TEAM

Corporate Sponsors

Sponsor Links:

AGL Resources
AMOCO Federal Credit Union
Continental Airlines
HCPA
Host Gator
Legacy Offshore Diving and Construction
Market Doctors
Maverick Remodeling
Risefly Software
Roy Moffitt Customized Fueling
Sequent Energy Management
Silvetti Group
Space City Corvettes
The Common Source

http://texasequusearch.org/

[Tamikosmom]

Tim's motivation to create the TES organization as a means to assist families of missing persons was based on his personal heartbreaking experiences encompassing lack of resources/support on home soil when it came to searching for his precious daughter.

On the other hand ... Beth's motivation to create the NHRC was based on her personal heartbreaking experiences encompassing lack of resources/support in the search on foreign soil for her precious daughter.

One mission should not negate the other.

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WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Steph Watts:  Tim let me ask you this... I want to ask you this... a couple of tough questions.  First of all, I’ve always said three people have profited off of Natalee Holloway’s murder; her murderer, the media, and her own mother.  Let me ask you this Tim, What’s the name of Beth Holloway’s organization?

Tim Miller:  I don’t even know.

Steph Watts:  Beth Holloway has an organization in the name of her daughter.

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Tim Miller:  If Beth really wants to make a difference and help people...you know we had more people disappear in the United States of America in the last twenty four hours... do you hear this ... twenty four hours, than Aruba has in their entire history.  This was a very isolated incident ... 

Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


Beth's Nightmare

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 55:  Last night's meeting with the DEA agent would be the last time we would see him. I was told he was just on the island "on vacation," but considering his line of work, I have to wonder about that. Even wonder if the name he gave us was really his. None of that matters. I'm just thankful he was here when he was to help us get the ball rolling by directing us to go to Carlos 'n Charlie's, and helping us with the encounter in the van der Sloot front yard. But now we're alone, politically and law enforcement-wise. Even though we've met Homeland Security and DEA representatives, there‘s nothing they can do for us. There's no U.S. consular office here. No State Department representative. No FBI agent. We're on our own.


Tim's Nightmare

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Natalee Holloway Still Missing After 31 Days
Aired June 29, 2005 - 21:00   ET

TIM MILLER, DIRECTOR, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH:  You know, I went through the same thing, and it wasn't any better where I was from. They said Laura was a runaway. I did everything I knew how to do, but I was paralyzed at that time. There weren't any search teams. There wasn't any support from law enforcement. 

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/29/lkl.01.html

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Dilma Arends Geerman!!!!

Is there a connection!!

It was Tim Miller who brought the pond witness Jenny Geerman to the States to be privately polygraphed.

Janet

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We're Searchers

WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Tim Miller:  Beth needs to understand, Beth is the mother, Beth is not the investigator. ....

We’re searchers, we let the investigators do their job.

Transcript - Texasmom

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


The Pond Witness

Natalee Holloway Investigation: Exclusive … Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch in Aruba to meet With ALE/Prosecutor … New Witness That Puts Joran & Paulus Van der Sloot Near Ponds on 5/30/05

Posted September 10, 2008 by Scared Monkeys

We just recieved a call from Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch. Tim is presently in Aruba and planning to meet with the Aruban prosecutor and the ALE. It appears that there is a new witness that has come forward that has placed Joran Van der Sloot in wet and muddy clothing out at 4:00am on 5/30/05. The 48 year old Aruban witness also places Paulus Van der Sloot at the scene picking up Joran in a red jeep.

Why is this witness potentially credible? The Aruban passed two polygraph tests in Houston, TX on August 5, 2008. The tests were performed by John Swartz of John Swartz & Associates, International Polygraph Examiners. The 48 year old Aruba, name withheld for obvious reasons, went to police early on in the investigation; however, was not taken seriously. He is also claimed to have spoke with Hans Mos. Whether an actual police report exists of the witness is unknown.

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http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/10/natalee-holloway-investigation-exclusive-tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-in-aruba-to-meet-with-aleprosecutor-new-witness-that-puts-joran-paulus-van-der-sloot-near-ponds-on-53005/


The Private Polygraph

http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lie-detector.pdf

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[Tamikosmom]

Both incidences that are as perceived distractions from the Persistence find in Aruban waters ... Dave Holloway is the contact person and ... Natalee's father then involves Tim Miller.

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A Man Called Marcos    


The search for Natalee Holloway

TRANSCRIPT
By Chris Hansen
Correspondent
NBC News
updated 5:20 p.m. PT, Fri., Feb. 22, 2008

This bizarre story originated in the central American nation of Nicaragua.

It happened last month, when Natalee’s father Dave received a message from a man who called himself Marcos. He said he had important information about where they could find Natalee's body. ....

In January, Dave Holloway asked Tim Miller to head to Nicaragua to arrange for a meeting...and to Miller's surprise, Marcos showed up. ....

Together, Miller and Marcos came up with a plan. ....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/5/


The Pond Witness


Dave Holloway

January 6, 2009
Press Anouncement
Ladies and gentlemen!

Hans Mos:

.... This witness has turned himself to Dave Holloway, as we have been told. He has given a new statement and has undergone a lie detector test. According to the summary of the lie detector test results (a full report, as promised to my Office by Tim Miller was never received) the witness was considered to be reliable. This Office never questioned the reliability of what the witness claimed to have seen. Yet, the value of his statement in the reconstruction of facts of that night is very limited. With his sole statement this case could never be solved.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.840


Tim Miller

Natalee Holloway Investigation: Exclusive … Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch in Aruba to meet With ALE/Prosecutor … New Witness That Puts Joran & Paulus Van der Sloot Near Ponds on 5/30/05

Posted September 10, 2008 by Scared Monkeys

We just recieved a call from Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch. Tim is presently in Aruba and planning to meet with the Aruban prosecutor and the ALE. It appears that there is a new witness that has come forward that has placed Joran Van der Sloot in wet and muddy clothing out at 4:00am on 5/30/05. The 48 year old Aruban witness also places Paulus Van der Sloot at the scene picking up Joran in a red jeep.

Why is this witness potentially credible? The Aruban passed two polygraph tests in Houston, TX on August 5, 2008. The tests were performed by John Swartz of John Swartz & Associates, International Polygraph Examiners. The 48 year old Aruba, name withheld for obvious reasons, went to police early on in the investigation; however, was not taken seriously. He is also claimed to have spoke with Hans Mos. Whether an actual police report exists of the witness is unknown.

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http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/10/natalee-holloway-investigation-exclusive-tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-in-aruba-to-meet-with-aleprosecutor-new-witness-that-puts-joran-paulus-van-der-sloot-near-ponds-on-53005

[Tamikosmom]

THE PERSISTENCE DISTRACTIONS

Both incidences that are as perceived distractions from the Persistence find in Aruban waters ... Dave Holloway is the contact person and ... Natalee's father then involves Tim Miller.

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A Man Called Marcos    

The search for Natalee Holloway

TRANSCRIPT
By Chris Hansen
Correspondent
NBC News
updated 5:20 p.m. PT, Fri., Feb. 22, 2008

This bizarre story originated in the central American nation of Nicaragua.

It happened last month, when Natalee’s father Dave received a message from a man who called himself Marcos. He said he had important information about where they could find Natalee's body. ....

In January, Dave Holloway asked Tim Miller to head to Nicaragua to arrange for a meeting...and to Miller's surprise, Marcos showed up. ....

Together, Miller and Marcos came up with a plan. ....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/5/


The Pond Witness

Dave Holloway

January 6, 2009
Press Anouncement
Ladies and gentlemen!

Hans Mos:

.... This witness has turned himself to Dave Holloway, as we have been told. He has given a new statement and has undergone a lie detector test. According to the summary of the lie detector test results (a full report, as promised to my Office by Tim Miller was never received) the witness was considered to be reliable. This Office never questioned the reliability of what the witness claimed to have seen. Yet, the value of his statement in the reconstruction of facts of that night is very limited. With his sole statement this case could never be solved.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.840


Tim Miller

Natalee Holloway Investigation: Exclusive … Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch in Aruba to meet With ALE/Prosecutor … New Witness That Puts Joran & Paulus Van der Sloot Near Ponds on 5/30/05

Posted September 10, 2008 by Scared Monkeys

We just recieved a call from Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch. Tim is presently in Aruba and planning to meet with the Aruban prosecutor and the ALE. It appears that there is a new witness that has come forward that has placed Joran Van der Sloot in wet and muddy clothing out at 4:00am on 5/30/05. The 48 year old Aruban witness also places Paulus Van der Sloot at the scene picking up Joran in a red jeep.

Why is this witness potentially credible? The Aruban passed two polygraph tests in Houston, TX on August 5, 2008. The tests were performed by John Swartz of John Swartz & Associates, International Polygraph Examiners. The 48 year old Aruba, name withheld for obvious reasons, went to police early on in the investigation; however, was not taken seriously. He is also claimed to have spoke with Hans Mos. Whether an actual police report exists of the witness is unknown.

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http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/10/natalee-holloway-investigation-exclusive-tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-in-aruba-to-meet-with-aleprosecutor-new-witness-that-puts-joran-paulus-van-der-sloot-near-ponds-on-53005/

[Tamikosmom]

I'm thinking this is the same fundraiser that Silvetti and Schaefer were the "honored guests" for too.  IIRC that was noted on the invitations that were sent out but not on the flyer for the event.  Can't blame Beth at all for bowing out of this one.   

http://ultimateclearlake.com/stories/4696-banquet-auction-benefit-texas-equusearch

Dinner and auction to aid Equusearch
 
by Jenny Montgomery published April 8, 2010 03:54pm

Author Judith McNaught and the mother of Natalee Holloway, the teen who disappeared while on a high school graduation trip to Aruba, will appear at a Texas Equusearch benefit dinner and auction tonight.

Auction items at the first Endless Search Banquet and Charity Auction include a donated five-bedroom home in Aruba; a penthouse near Cancun, Mexico; a Costa Rica trip; an exotic hunting venture; and assorted event tickets.

Also planned for the fund-raiser is live music by Kelly McGuire.

When: 6:30 p.m. Thursday, April 8.

Where: Campbell Hall at the Pasadena Fairgrounds, 7902 Fairmont Parkway.

Tickets: Tickets are $75 per person, and sponsorships are available for $500 to $5,000.

More information: http://texasequusearch.org

Dickson-based Texas Equusearch was established in 2000 to provide volunteer horse mounted search and recovery for lost and missing people. The team is dedicated to the memory of Laura Miller, the daughter of founding director Tim Miller. She was abducted and murder in north Galveston County in 1984.

Texas Equusearch needs volunteers to help with searches. Those with experience in rescue skills such as CPR, advanced lifesaving and field craft can also assist in search projects.
Volunteers must be at least 18 years old and have no felony convictions. Team members will volunteer in searches to help find missing persons, attend search and rescue training seminars, attend general meetings and attend trail rides, cook-offs, parades and other community events.

http://texasequusearch.org/2010/03/endless-search-banquet-and-charity-auction-april-8-2010/



http://www.flickr.com/photos/texasequusearch/page2/



Did it ever cross Dave's mind?....











Endless Search Charity Auction and Benefit — Thank You to All Involved

Posted on 05. May, 2010 by smckinney in Featured Articles, TES News

Texas EquuSearch’s First Annual “Endless Search” Charity Auction and Benefit was a COMPLETE SUCCESS!  We have so many people to thank for all of their hard work, their donations and support.  We would like to start with Jim and Debbie Drury, the Organizers and Co-Chairpersons.   Additional thanks go to the following:

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We would also like to express our gratitude to Dave Holloway and Judith McNaught for attending.  A special thank you to everyone who donated items for our live and silent auctions – these items truly helped make this event the success that it was. Additionally, thank you to everyone who supported Texas EquuSearch by purchasing the auction items.
And, of course, thank you to each and every Texas EquuSearch member who volunteered their time – before, during and after the Event.  We would not be the wonderful organization we are without the incredible support of each and every one of these individuals.
Below is a slideshow of the Event — please enjoy.

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The Remaining Targets?

Debbie (BFN)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
« Reply #598 on: June 18, 2009, 11:29:24 PM »»

Okay... there was/is no conspiracy with the Persistence.  Louis, John, Tim and Dave are trying to get the funds to complete the search on the targets.... they are working together.. 
 
Slam me, bash me, I don't care, but it is the truth.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5127.msg845027;topicseen#msg845027


No Relevance

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

oceanexploration:  Several hours of footage were of other (ROV) dives on other targets. None were of any relevance. Most targets were of peculiar coral pinnacles, man-made debris, and ship wrecks. (03/03/08)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2668.msg360047;topicseen#msg360047

Kyle Kingman: The logs are in a safe somewhere. John and Ryan Poff (one of John's project managers) knows where it is. I can't get copies of the logs at this time. Perhaps in a few months. The target locations are in the safe, although I also have them in a safe spot.  I don't care about the other targets though. I don't think any of it is of any potential interest. Mainly junk, coral, and debris. (06/28/08)

Kermit - Scared Monkeys

[Tamikosmom]

Do Dave and Robin Holloway sincerely believe the Aruban enemy's claim that nothing case related was inside the trap ... the Aruban enemy who has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway since May 30, 2005?

Does it not concern Natalee father and stepmother that John Silvetti allowed the contents of the trap to be recovered unchallenged by only Aruban divers?

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oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #739 3/3 -
« Reply #79 on: March 03, 2008, 05:47:47 PM »

Video 2: Dec 30th - ROV and Diver visual-only inspection of trap. This is the dive Dateline and Tim Miller witnessed, also the dive footage the screen captures I made came from that were posted by Robin at BNH. I sent these 6 screen shots to the FBI and the FBI only. I was shocked to see them posted. I thought we had a security breach on the boat from my workstation or a leak from the FBI. Turns out the FBI gave them to Dave H. after he couldn't get them from me. After Tim Miller told Dave that we found her in a trap with 99.9% certainty (this is pre-diver inspection), Dave very reasonably requested them from me. I badly wanted to send them to him, but couldn't. Apparently, shortly therafter the FBI send the screen shots to Dave anyway, and therefore Robin had them.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2668.msg360047;topicseen#msg360047


Video 2 - December 30, 2007



Klaasend - Scared Monkeys

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WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Tim Miller:  Oh my God...Louis Schaefer...when we went over there for three weeks...ended up there almost three months in the deep water search.  Spent...put a million dollar budget on it...spent 1.8 million

Transcript - Texasmom

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe

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Corporate Sponsorships

Did Tim Miller's silence regarding his observations while on board the Persistence ... his observation that implied a betrayal to Natalee Holloway and her family by John Silvetti ... pave the way way for ongoing funding to help underwrite the expenses of the TES organization through corporate sponsorships?  In other words ... is the upholding of either Louis Schaefer or John Silvetti by Tim Miller bought and paid for?
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TEXAS EQUUSEARCH
MOUNTED SEARCH AND RECOVERY TEAM

Corporate Sponsors

Sponsor Links:

AGL Resources
AMOCO Federal Credit Union
Continental Airlines
HCPA
Host Gator
Legacy Offshore Diving and Construction
Market Doctors
Maverick Remodeling
Risefly Software
Roy Moffitt Customized Fueling
Sequent Energy Management
Silvetti Group
Space City Corvettes
The Common Source

http://texasequusearch.org/

Credit - Sharon/tx

[Tamikosmom]

Galations 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap

Mark 8:36
What benefit will it be to you if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?
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It is crucial that Tim reflects very carefully in regards to the path he has chosen in the past 2 1/2 years since the Persistence undertaking.  It is never too late to do right.

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Heli Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:30 pm

Dana Pretzer
July 20, 2006

Tim Miller:  we never received a grant in our life, we've tried to be self sufficient, we get donations, we have fund raisers. We never, ever ask for money from a family member, we've never asked for money from LE, we won't accept money from family members.

Somehow or another, God has always blessed us to keep our doors open, to make it to the next search.  Before we start a search we always start with a prayer... I'm only the founder of TES, God is our leader and that's why we have the success we have.

http://refugeesunleashed.net/about3669.html

[Tamikosmom]

Not for One Minute!

The assistance provided to TES in the search for missing people does not negate the Persistence betrayal.  Not for one minute!   The betrayal of Natalee Holloway and her family when John Silvetti on January 7, 2008 afforded the Aruban enemy unchallenged possession of what may of been case related evidence will never be forgotten.

If there had been a possibility the remains of Tim Miller's precious daughter had been inside that trap ... would he have remained silent ... would he have established a profession relationship with John Silvetti.

Natalee was Beth and Dave's precious little girl.  Empathy by Tim should have been a given.

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TIM MILLER AND JOHN SILVETTI CONNECTION

2008 - 2009

Klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #784 12/8/08 -
« Reply #192 on: December 09, 2008, 04:50:23 PM »

Tim Miller and John Silvetti from the Silvetti Group out of Louisiana, will be in Yankeetown, Florida to search for the two men missing since their plane lost radar contact with officials. Darien Peckham and Zachary Schlitt were headed to Vandenberg Airport, Tampa, Florida and never reached their destination. We will post more details regarding this search at a later date

http://www.texasequusearch.org/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4227.msg573198


Bergfeld, Chase - Richland Chambers Reservoir, TX- missing 12/13/08
Posted on 17. Jan, 2009 by B Tarr in Memorials

12/18/08 - Texas EquuSearch was successful in locating the A&M Student, Chase Bergfeld. Our hearts and prayers go out to the family and friends of this young man. TES would like to thank John Silvetti and the Silvetti group from Louisiana and Dennis and Tammy Watters and also the Texas Parks and Wildlife personnel for their roles in helping Texas EquuSearch locate A&M Student, Chase Bergfeld.

http://texasequusearch.org/2009/01/bergfeld-chase-richland-chambers-reservoir-tx-missing-121308/


Search for Missing Kayaker - Dr. Stephen Zella, in Seabrook, TX - TES needs searchers
Posted on 22. Feb, 2009 by B Tarr in Active Cases, Featured Articles, Missing Persons

02/22/09 - Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 - As of 10:15 pm, Texas EquuSearch has been joined in the search for Dr. Zella by the Silvetti Group and Legacy Offshore Divers & Construction Company, both out of Louisiana. We will continue searching tonight, as long as possible.

http://texasequusearch.org/2009/02/search-for-missing-kayaker-in-seabrook-tx-tes-needs-searchers/


Search team hopes they are close to finding missing kayaker
Bay Area Citizen
By DANA GUTHRIE
Updated: 02.24.09

On Monday, five different groups were using sonar equipment to scan the bottom of Clear Lake — League City, Nassau Bay, the Montgomery County Constable’s office and The Silvetti Group and Legacy Offshore Divers & Construction Co., both of Louisiana, Black said. Equusearch said the sonar teams and divers will work through most of Monday night.

“The winds have not let up on us to allow us to do anything much until now,” Black said Monday afternoon.

The search will continue on Tuesday beginning at 8 a.m. Volunteers are needed and encouraged to visit the command center located at the Clear Lake Park boat ramp on NASA Parkway in Seabrook.

At about 10:15 p.m. Sunday, the search team was joined by The Silvetti Group and Legacy arrived with divers, who began searching shortly thereafter and continued diving until about 5 a.m. Monday.

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2009/02/24/bay_area_citizen/news/2kayak26.txt

[Tamikosmom]

FEBRUARY, 2009

Dr. Stephen Zella: Dr. Zella was kayaking alone in Clear Lake (Houston, Texas) about 11:30 a.m. on February 20th 2009. Witnesses said he wasn’t wearing a life jacket, and both witnesses said Stephen appeared to be struggling against the wind and strong cross-currents. His kayak was found capsized a couple of minutes later and witnesses never saw Stephen again, so they called 911 for help. The Nassau Bay Fire & Rescue Team was in the water within seven minutes
of receiving the alarm. Deputies from the Harris County Pct. 8 Constables Department arrived within ten minutes and started organizing search teams and equipment. Texas EquuSearch was called in a short time later to assist in the search for Stephen. TES used side-scan sonar over several days in attempts to locate Stephen. The John Silvetti Group and Louis Schaffer’s Legacy
Offshore Divers came in to Clear Lake to assist us in the search for Stephen.  They brought in a vast amount of high-tech underwater equipment and skills. But high winds continually rocked the search / sonar boat from side-to-side, making clarity of the sonar images very poor. Another problem searchers came to face was that the lake’s floor is littered with debris, including a tractor, from Hurricane Ike. These debris items distorted images and made it difficult to distinguish real items of concern. Weather conditions and hurricane debris kept professional divers and sonar image analysts very busy for several days.  Volunteers continually searched the shorelines, bulkheads, piers, jetties, coves, tributaries and any other place that the multiple cross currents might have taken Stephen. Weather became a safety concern for TES volunteers on February 25th, which prompted a search cancelation for the rest of the day. But, sonar specialist and divers continued to search through the bad whether. That night, divers located Stephen under some of the debris that was littering the lake, but they could not retrieve him because of strong currents and the weight of the debris on top of him. Early on February 26th, the divers started planning out their strategy to recover Stephen. As the divers were putting the plans in motion and preparing to dive, Stephen had actually surfaced and was spotted by Lisa Hoffman and Stephen’s father-in-law. He had re-surfaced in almost the same location that he had disappeared from. Fire departments, law enforcement agencies, private organizations and state & federal government departments from about 15 different agencies participated in the search for Stephen. Besides our TES volunteers, many of Stephen’s friends, colleagues, neighbors and other concerned citizens searched him.

http://texasequusearch.org/Documents/Newsletters/May2009Newsletter.pdf

Kermit - Scared Monkeys

[Tamikosmom]

Natalee Holloway's father speaks
Monday, February 04, 2008

HOUSTON (KTRK) (KTRK) -- What happened during Natalee Holloway's final hours?

Joran van der Sloot admits he was with the Alabama teen the night he says she died. The controversial remarks come in a new undercover Dutch documentary.

Dave Holloway told me he believes Van der Sloot's video taped conversation that Natalee will never be found only adds to the determination of Equusearch and Holloway to find Natalee. Equusearch founder, Tim Miller, has said for years Holloway's body is in the ocean. A conclusion also held by Holloway's' father.

It's a phone call he makes almost daily. Tim Miller has stayed in constant contact with Natalee Holloway's father. Dave Holloway told me he remains skeptical of Joran van der Sloot.

"I guess what I'm struggling with right now is what he said and his action after it happened," Dave Holloway told me. "That's the real troubling question of his character of doing this. How can a person stoop that low is beyond me? Words cannot describe it."

Van der Sloot admitted in a televised undercover Dutch documentary, he lied when he said he knew nothing of what happened to Natalee Holloway. Van der Sloot says Holloway was drunk and doesn't know if she was dead or alive when he agreed with a friend to dump her body into the sea.

The admittance provides validation for Tim Miller who always thought Holloway was thrown overboard. Miller has been involved in the search for Natalee for over two years. Recently, he's chronicled events on a blog (http://www.nholloway.blogspot.com).

Now with new equipment capable of diving a thousand feet, Miller is confident of a recovery.

"We knew this going over there," Miller said. "If there is something the size of a quarter at the bottom of the sea, we will find it with this equipment. We're far from quitting." The search boat is being partly funded by a Kemah businessman. Miller says he plans to go back to Aruba in a few days.

Lawyers for Van de Sloot say he was not responsible for Holloway's death and was lying in those conversations.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=5935135
 

[Tamikosmom]

A Higher Degree of Accountability

Kyle's silence regarding his silence in regards to the happenings encompassing the trap but ... he had only a crash course from the Natalee's Freebirds regarding the corrupt Aruban investigation that had prevented justice from prevailing.  In other words ... Kyle was hesitant to do right when it came to risking his entire career by disregarding the confidentiality agreement and exposing the John Silvetti betrayal.

However ... Tim Miller has to be held to a higher degree of accountability than Kyle Kingman when loyalty were compromised in regards to their respective betrayals as well as their respective ongoing professional relationships with John Silvetti.  Tim Miller had over a 2 1/2 years relationship/connection with Beth and Dave.  He knew where it was at from personal experience in regards to the nightmare that Aruba had put Beth and Dave through.  He claimed that Natalee had become like a daughter to him.

Think about it.  Exposing the betrayal would have made Tim a hero.  However ... he sold out for financial gain.

Janet

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A NEW DIRECTION

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 9
updated 12/12/2005 1:25:40 PM ET

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH:  .... I told Beth before in Aruba and I don‘t know if she remembers it I said, you know, I started Equusearch in memory of my daughter, Laura, and we‘ve done a tremendous job.  But you know what?  Natalee has taken it to a new direction on how we‘re going to look for missing loved ones.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10439299/


NATALEE IS MY DAUGHTER NOW

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Natalee Holloway Still Missing After 31 Days; Inspiring Stories
Aired June 29, 2005 - 21:00   ET

TIM MILLER, DIRECTOR, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH:  We've taken this case so serious and we've loved this family so very, very much and they became our -- they're our family. Natalee is my daughter now.

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/29/lkl.01.html


A PLACE TO PUT FLOWERS

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Natalee Holloway Still Missing After 31 Days; Inspiring Stories
Aired June 29, 2005 - 21:00   ET

TIM MILLER: I went through the same thing, and it wasn't any better where I was from. They said Laura was a runaway. I did everything I knew how to do, but I was paralyzed at that time. There weren't any search teams. There wasn't any support from law enforcement. And unfortunately, 17 months later, you know, the remains of Laura and another girl that's still unidentified were found 60 feet from each other and only a couple of miles from our house.

And the grieving process, of course, was painful. I was the fortunate one, I got Laura back. I've got a place to put flowers to and I have been truly blessed. And Laura's picture is my office and it's behind me. I feel as though that Laura's death wasn't in vain by no means. It wasn't in vain and ...

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/29/lkl.01.html