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« Reply #540 on: March 09, 2009, 02:10:00 PM »

I wonder why he "picked" on her all the time? Taking "jabs" at her, and her taking it too. He picked on her like she was his little sister.

She makes it so easy!  He didnt respect this relationship with a ho, what man would?   He had no intention of building a long term respectable relationship with her, certain other things that have come to light by his statements & his friends indicate that - the conversation seems to show he was already doubting things she said & wouldn't have been heartbroken if she dumped him, its almost as if he was taunting her to do so - cowards take this bass ackwards approach.   Her issues are certainly not his problem or as a result of something he did or said - Casey was already a walking timebomb of f'd up.

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she didnt have much respect for herself and zilch boundaries. With her she did the most bazaar things at the drop of a  pin... her parents have had to know she was probably planning on killing them, kinda gives you insight of her mentality. poor casylee was the chosen sacrifice for her moms freedom. which evidentaly didnt  get!!
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« Reply #541 on: March 09, 2009, 02:12:23 PM »

I wonder why he "picked" on her all the time? Taking "jabs" at her, and her taking it too. He picked on her like she was his little sister.

She makes it so easy!  He didnt respect this relationship with a ho, what man would?   He had no intention of building a long term respectable relationship with her, certain other things that have come to light by his statements & his friends indicate that - the conversation seems to show he was already doubting things she said & wouldn't have been heartbroken if she dumped him, its almost as if he was taunting her to do so - cowards take this bass ackwards approach.   Her issues are certainly not his problem or as a result of something he did or said - Casey was already a walking timebomb of f'd up.

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she didnt have much respect for herself and zilch boundaries. With her she did the most bazaar things at the drop of a  pin... her parents have had to know she was probably planning on killing them, kinda gives you insight of her mentality. poor casylee was the chosen sacrifice for her moms freedom. which evidentaly didnt  get!!
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It seems he constantly taunted and teased her and often times he would be jeered on by his roomates. that is both cruel and  sadistic behaviour. he didnt care for her , he was only using her for sex. He told her he loved her but those were just words to screw with her head. He didnt care one way or the other.. I think cappucino summed it up pretty good.!!
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« Reply #542 on: March 09, 2009, 02:13:10 PM »

THE TAPE -- If Casey had been making some sort of statement by putting tape on Caylee after her death, a simple strip would have done the trick.  But the tape was wound around the head and mouth, which means it was meant to keep the child quiet, maybe even to smother her, and that it was done with some intensity and anger, not as an afterthought.  I doubt this was done in the bedroom of the home BEFORE Casey left with the child.  Caylee would have struggled and made some sounds.  It is possible to make humming sounds or groans even when the mouth is taped or gagged.  It is just not possible to form words.  Caylee may have died in the home, but not while the parents were there, at least in my opinion.  I think there was a struggle between Caylee and Casey, with crying, screaming, etc.  I also think that on some level, Casey cared for Caylee, or went through the motions of caring for Caylee, because she was told that she should care for her own child.  Most people say she was kind to Caylee and affectionate with her.  She either loved Caylee or thought she loved Caylee or thought she had to love Caylee.

The mention of her taking an MMPI is interesting, too.  That test is supposed to show various mental or emotional tendencies including pyschosis, narcissism, anti-socialism, etc. I think.  Does anyone know more about the test?  Of course, Casey may have been lying about the test, but it seems like a reasonable one to give to an inmate to find out if they have any obvious disorders.  I doubt they would tell her that "everything was all right" though.  They probably kept the results to themselves.


Yes, the MMPI-2 which is the revised version of the original MMPI is part of a battery of tests.  It is used to assess and diagnose mental disorders/illness.   They are administered by a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist trained to assess MMPI-2's (I worked for a forensic psychiatrist for 8 1/2 years that used them regularly).   The test is designed to be for adults 18 & older.   It is usually used in conjunction with the MCMI-III which is a self-reporting test designed to aid a clinical psychologist/psychiatrist  in assessing DSM-IV related personality disorders.   The MACI is the version used for adolescents.
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« Reply #543 on: March 09, 2009, 02:13:11 PM »

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Caylee was at the age when a child is often considered most difficult to handle...starting to assert herself in words and actions, not fully potty trained, able to do things that upset the parent and resist parental authority.  Casey was so angry and so frustrated and so out of control that it made for a very explosive situation. 

I think this may have been one of the main factors in Caylee's death.  Yes, I do believe it was premeditated, but we have seen Casey's self-centeredness and temper on the jail videos.  I agree that Casey's rage could have been triggered by Caylee at this stage of development.  Not to mention the fact that Caylee could TALK about things that were going on.  Casey's life is all about deception.  Cindy spent the whole day with Caylee, without Casey around, on June 15.  Wonder what kinds of things Cindy may have learned from her.  "Out of the mouths of babes" comes the truth.  And being "told on" too, could have enraged Casey.  Who knows, maybe Cindy learned things that day that triggered the big fight that supposedly happened that evening when Casey came home.



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« Reply #544 on: March 09, 2009, 02:16:13 PM »

I wonder why he "picked" on her all the time? Taking "jabs" at her, and her taking it too. He picked on her like she was his little sister.

She makes it so easy!  He didnt respect this relationship with a ho, what man would?   He had no intention of building a long term respectable relationship with her, certain other things that have come to light by his statements & his friends indicate that - the conversation seems to show he was already doubting things she said & wouldn't have been heartbroken if she dumped him, its almost as if he was taunting her to do so - cowards take this bass ackwards approach.   Her issues are certainly not his problem or as a result of something he did or said - Casey was already a walking timebomb of f'd up.

Right.  I have daughters this age, and their guy friends hang out at my house a lot.   IMO, Tony never promised her anything.  She was just a piece of azz to him - and she was happy to accommodate him.   He also seems selfish and immature - like a lot of young men 21 years old.   

She definetely met her match there huh sassycat? he dished it out she took what crumbs she could get. Who is going to respect a liar, a ho and a horrible mentality fragile mother. the only thing she wanted to do and did was sleep party and web all kinds of lies. I didnt care for his attitude. will be interesting to see how cocky he is when he is on the stand. cuz you know he will be called to testify against her. Wonder how she will react. she killed her kid for that!!
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« Reply #545 on: March 09, 2009, 02:16:50 PM »

I wonder why he "picked" on her all the time? Taking "jabs" at her, and her taking it too. He picked on her like she was his little sister.

She makes it so easy!  He didnt respect this relationship with a ho, what man would?   He had no intention of building a long term respectable relationship with her, certain other things that have come to light by his statements & his friends indicate that - the conversation seems to show he was already doubting things she said & wouldn't have been heartbroken if she dumped him, its almost as if he was taunting her to do so - cowards take this bass ackwards approach.   Her issues are certainly not his problem or as a result of something he did or said - Casey was already a walking timebomb of f'd up.

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she didnt have much respect for herself and zilch boundaries. With her she did the most bazaar things at the drop of a  pin... her parents have had to know she was probably planning on killing them, kinda gives you insight of her mentality. poor casylee was the chosen sacrifice for her moms freedom. which evidentaly didnt  get!!
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It seems he constantly taunted and teased her and often times he would be jeered on by his roomates. that is both cruel and  sadistic behaviour. he didnt care for her , he was only using her for sex. He told her he loved her but those were just words to screw with her head. He didnt care one way or the other.. I think cappucino summed it up pretty good.!!

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« Reply #546 on: March 09, 2009, 02:20:12 PM »

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Caylee was at the age when a child is often considered most difficult to handle...starting to assert herself in words and actions, not fully potty trained, able to do things that upset the parent and resist parental authority.  Casey was so angry and so frustrated and so out of control that it made for a very explosive situation. 

I think this may have been one of the main factors in Caylee's death.  Yes, I do believe it was premeditated, but we have seen Casey's self-centeredness and temper on the jail videos.  I agree that Casey's rage could have been triggered by Caylee at this stage of development.  Not to mention the fact that Caylee could TALK about things that were going on.  Casey's life is all about deception.  Cindy spent the whole day with Caylee, without Casey around, on June 15.  Wonder what kinds of things Cindy may have learned from her.  "Out of the mouths of babes" comes the truth.  And being "told on" too, could have enraged Casey.  Who knows, maybe Cindy learned things that day that triggered the big fight that supposedly happened that evening when Casey came home.




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good observation, I think you have a good point there. Maybe caylee was telling  cindy everything and not to forget that she didnt want to deal with a child that she had to take time from her day to potty train. she is one selfish self centered and very hot tempered time bomb. theres nothing that she will be nothing about her life that she will be able to hide under a rock. once  her case goes to trial everything will be exposed !!! and than SOME!!
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« Reply #547 on: March 09, 2009, 02:22:25 PM »

I wonder why he "picked" on her all the time? Taking "jabs" at her, and her taking it too. He picked on her like she was his little sister.

She makes it so easy!  He didnt respect this relationship with a ho, what man would?   He had no intention of building a long term respectable relationship with her, certain other things that have come to light by his statements & his friends indicate that - the conversation seems to show he was already doubting things she said & wouldn't have been heartbroken if she dumped him, its almost as if he was taunting her to do so - cowards take this bass ackwards approach.   Her issues are certainly not his problem or as a result of something he did or said - Casey was already a walking timebomb of f'd up.

Cappucino
she didnt have much respect for herself and zilch boundaries. With her she did the most bazaar things at the drop of a  pin... her parents have had to know she was probably planning on killing them, kinda gives you insight of her mentality. poor casylee was the chosen sacrifice for her moms freedom. which evidentaly didnt  get!!
CHIHUAHUAMOM
It seems he constantly taunted and teased her and often times he would be jeered on by his roomates. that is both cruel and  sadistic behaviour. he didnt care for her , he was only using her for sex. He told her he loved her but those were just words to screw with her head. He didnt care one way or the other.. I think cappucino summed it up pretty good.!!

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« Reply #548 on: March 09, 2009, 02:23:20 PM »

Tony should bear some of this guilt of this crime.  Not prison time, but he should feel terribly guilty in making Casey love him (that is not the right word) so much she would give up her child for him, and her freedom.  There is a story in the Bible about when you put things in front of God, these things can be taken from you......  Casey didnt love Tony, she only wanted what she couldnt have and she made the ultimate sacrifce for him.  That is just my opinion of course, but reading what Klaasend posted, that is very apparent.

Don't forget that Casey and Tony really only knew eachother for about a month before Caylee was killed.  I don't think it's fair to put a guilt trip on Tony.  He had no way of knowing that Casey Anthony was a sociopathic liar and selfish murdering b****.
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« Reply #549 on: March 09, 2009, 02:24:01 PM »

From the IM messages June 10, 2008 between Tony and Casey...just a couple of pages:










Does it creep anyone else out that she says "In a couple days, in 3 days to be exact, you can come over whenever you please"?  That would but it at around June 15/16.....maybe Caylee was not the only one on her hit list afterall??  Or maybe Cindy really was planning to leave George and the fight that horrid evening was from Cindy telling Casey that she had patched things up with George, Cindy ruined Caseys plans....
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« Reply #550 on: March 09, 2009, 02:24:35 PM »

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Caylee was at the age when a child is often considered most difficult to handle...starting to assert herself in words and actions, not fully potty trained, able to do things that upset the parent and resist parental authority.  Casey was so angry and so frustrated and so out of control that it made for a very explosive situation. 

I think this may have been one of the main factors in Caylee's death.  Yes, I do believe it was premeditated, but we have seen Casey's self-centeredness and temper on the jail videos.  I agree that Casey's rage could have been triggered by Caylee at this stage of development.  Not to mention the fact that Caylee could TALK about things that were going on.  Casey's life is all about deception.  Cindy spent the whole day with Caylee, without Casey around, on June 15.  Wonder what kinds of things Cindy may have learned from her.  "Out of the mouths of babes" comes the truth.  And being "told on" too, could have enraged Casey.  Who knows, maybe Cindy learned things that day that triggered the big fight that supposedly happened that evening when Casey came home.




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good observation, I think you have a good point there. Maybe caylee was telling  cindy everything and not to forget that she didnt want to deal with a child that she had to take time from her day to potty train. she is one selfish self centered and very hot tempered time bomb. theres nothing that she will be nothing about her life that she will be able to hide under a rock. once  her case goes to trial everything will be exposed !!! and than SOME!!

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not to mention the terrible two's stage.. of temper tantrums.. I think casey mentioned that somewhere about caylees tantrums. I think   it was a slow built up like a volano and once she errupted .. it was on!! full frce!!
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« Reply #551 on: March 09, 2009, 02:26:27 PM »

I wonder why he "picked" on her all the time? Taking "jabs" at her, and her taking it too. He picked on her like she was his little sister.

She makes it so easy!  He didnt respect this relationship with a ho, what man would?   He had no intention of building a long term respectable relationship with her, certain other things that have come to light by his statements & his friends indicate that - the conversation seems to show he was already doubting things she said & wouldn't have been heartbroken if she dumped him, its almost as if he was taunting her to do so - cowards take this bass ackwards approach.   Her issues are certainly not his problem or as a result of something he did or said - Casey was already a walking timebomb of f'd up.

Right.  I have daughters this age, and their guy friends hang out at my house a lot.   IMO, Tony never promised her anything.  She was just a piece of azz to him - and she was happy to accommodate him.   He also seems selfish and immature - like a lot of young men 21 years old.   

She definetely met her match there huh sassycat? he dished it out she took what crumbs she could get. Who is going to respect a liar, a ho and a horrible mentality fragile mother. the only thing she wanted to do and did was sleep party and web all kinds of lies. I didnt care for his attitude. will be interesting to see how cocky he is when he is on the stand. cuz you know he will be called to testify against her. Wonder how she will react. she killed her kid for that!!

Very true, Katie!     

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« Reply #552 on: March 09, 2009, 02:26:32 PM »

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Caylee was at the age when a child is often considered most difficult to handle...starting to assert herself in words and actions, not fully potty trained, able to do things that upset the parent and resist parental authority.  Casey was so angry and so frustrated and so out of control that it made for a very explosive situation. 

I think this may have been one of the main factors in Caylee's death.  Yes, I do believe it was premeditated, but we have seen Casey's self-centeredness and temper on the jail videos.  I agree that Casey's rage could have been triggered by Caylee at this stage of development.  Not to mention the fact that Caylee could TALK about things that were going on.  Casey's life is all about deception.  Cindy spent the whole day with Caylee, without Casey around, on June 15.  Wonder what kinds of things Cindy may have learned from her.  "Out of the mouths of babes" comes the truth.  And being "told on" too, could have enraged Casey.  Who knows, maybe Cindy learned things that day that triggered the big fight that supposedly happened that evening when Casey came home.




I agree with your assessment.  I think Caylee was starting to tell about things going on with Casey in a totally innocent way.  I think those stories along with the money stolen from Gpa's living fund pushed Cindy to confront her daughter and what happened after that ended Caylees life.  What kind of person steals from their grandfathers assisted living fund?  Oh yes, the same kind of person who kills their child.  No ethics, no morals according to the text messages.  ME, ME, ME....
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« Reply #553 on: March 09, 2009, 02:27:45 PM »


Does it creep anyone else out that she says "In a couple days, in 3 days to be exact, you can come over whenever you please"?  That would but it at around June 15/16.....maybe Caylee was not the only one on her hit list afterall??  Or maybe Cindy really was planning to leave George and the fight that horrid evening was from Cindy telling Casey that she had patched things up with George, Cindy ruined Caseys plans....

Dolce (glad you and babies are okay) --  She wrote that on June 10, so that would make it Friday, June 13. 

Cindy did say in a LE interview as well as a media interview, that she and Casey had a fight on June 14.  But IIRC the neighbor's statement was that there was a fight on June 15.  It's confusing.

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« Reply #554 on: March 09, 2009, 02:27:57 PM »

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Caylee was at the age when a child is often considered most difficult to handle...starting to assert herself in words and actions, not fully potty trained, able to do things that upset the parent and resist parental authority.  Casey was so angry and so frustrated and so out of control that it made for a very explosive situation. 

I think this may have been one of the main factors in Caylee's death.  Yes, I do believe it was premeditated, but we have seen Casey's self-centeredness and temper on the jail videos.  I agree that Casey's rage could have been triggered by Caylee at this stage of development.  Not to mention the fact that Caylee could TALK about things that were going on.  Casey's life is all about deception.  Cindy spent the whole day with Caylee, without Casey around, on June 15.  Wonder what kinds of things Cindy may have learned from her.  "Out of the mouths of babes" comes the truth.  And being "told on" too, could have enraged Casey.  Who knows, maybe Cindy learned things that day that triggered the big fight that supposedly happened that evening when Casey came home.

2 babies and not enough attention.  It does seem like Casey put Caylee in more of a roll as her sibling rather than her daughter.  Calling her "snotnose", "the kid", and many other "endearing" things we have heard, is the banter often heard between siblings, not from a loving or caring mother, or anyone in a caring roll over a child for that matter.
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« Reply #555 on: March 09, 2009, 02:31:25 PM »

Dolce - good to see you today - but please take it easy!        
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Does it creep anyone else out that she says "In a couple days, in 3 days to be exact, you can come over whenever you please"?  That would but it at around June 15/16.....maybe Caylee was not the only one on her hit list afterall??  Or maybe Cindy really was planning to leave George and the fight that horrid evening was from Cindy telling Casey that she had patched things up with George, Cindy ruined Caseys plans....

Dolce (glad you and babies are okay) --  She wrote that on June 10, so that would make it Friday, June 13. 

Cindy did say in a LE interview as well as a media interview, that she and Casey had a fight on June 14.  But IIRC the neighbor's statement was that there was a fight on June 15.  It's confusing.


Yes I reread what I wrote and saw my addition is off.  It should have read 13/14 not 15/16.  I know Casey is a liar, but she put a "time limit" on her lie there with Tony.  If she was never promised the house then why give a time limit and show her hand as a liar?  That is what does not fit in my mind.  Cindy had to of said something for Casey to lead all of her buddies down the path of the idea she was getting the house.  We know she was desperate for their acceptance, so why lie and cause a ripple?
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« Reply #557 on: March 09, 2009, 02:34:26 PM »

Dolce - good to see you today - but please take it easy!        

Aw thank you and thank you Desi too.  Thank you everyone for your prayers.  I have to take it easy, my Mother is now a current resident in my home.....que the crazy music!  LOL  (Kidding, I love her)
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« Reply #558 on: March 09, 2009, 02:35:33 PM »

I wonder why he "picked" on her all the time? Taking "jabs" at her, and her taking it too. He picked on her like she was his little sister.

She makes it so easy!  He didnt respect this relationship with a ho, what man would?   He had no intention of building a long term respectable relationship with her, certain other things that have come to light by his statements & his friends indicate that - the conversation seems to show he was already doubting things she said & wouldn't have been heartbroken if she dumped him, its almost as if he was taunting her to do so - cowards take this bass ackwards approach.   Her issues are certainly not his problem or as a result of something he did or said - Casey was already a walking timebomb of f'd up.

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she didnt have much respect for herself and zilch boundaries. With her she did the most bazaar things at the drop of a  pin... her parents have had to know she was probably planning on killing them, kinda gives you insight of her mentality. poor casylee was the chosen sacrifice for her moms freedom. which evidentaly didnt  get!!

   I respectfully disagree that he was picking on her. I think that she presented herself as a stable single parent with an exciting job, supportive parents but with the freedom as the others in that crowd. A party girl, ready to get it on anytime she could.

I do wonder if he wasn't seeing some of the cracks in her facade and needled her to get to the bottom of things. She dangled her relationship with Ricardo either to show how desirable she was or to get him jealous, she had been going with him for a while, he may have been wondering why she never had him at least come by her home. It seemed like she down played the tension at home so he was curious as to why he couldn't come by to say goodnight.

I guess it's hard for me to view her in a victim role. 
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« Reply #559 on: March 09, 2009, 02:36:13 PM »

Tony should bear some of this guilt of this crime.  Not prison time, but he should feel terribly guilty in making Casey love him (that is not the right word) so much she would give up her child for him, and her freedom.  There is a story in the Bible about when you put things in front of God, these things can be taken from you......  Casey didnt love Tony, she only wanted what she couldnt have and she made the ultimate sacrifce for him.  That is just my opinion of course, but reading what Klaasend posted, that is very apparent.

Don't forget that Casey and Tony really only knew eachother for about a month before Caylee was killed.  I don't think it's fair to put a guilt trip on Tony.  He had no way of knowing that Casey Anthony was a sociopathic liar and selfish murdering b****.

Klaas ITA, I stated above her issues were well established before she met a 21 year old guy named Tony.   A list of men she screwed around with, I might add.   O heck she was screwing others while she was dating Tony so just how serious was she about him versus the idea of being the "my girl" to anyone...nope her conduct gets her reactions from others that is very clear.  She was baiting him with Ricardo & probably others, she was initiating the exchanges.  There is not a stable person on earth that should have felt that attachment or obsession for someone they knew a month.
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