Haleigh Cummings #5 3/08/09 - 3/11/09

[MuffyBee]

I believe they are ALL involved in drug use in one way or another. It seems to be part of their culture, some keep it in the shadows better than others. What interests me more is the personal stuff about each.. what do they have to gain, what do they have to lose...Was it an accident? Was it a family kidnapping? those are the things I want to discuss.. anyone else?

Excellent points to discuss flamom. 

[lolabelle]

snip from Lola:  All the family's records appear to be from the past.

aren't Rons also from the past?

Bolded by me. Can I hear about the motives? Anyone's opinions appreciated.

[Dolce]

I'm not sure if someone else already mentioned it, but I found it interesting on NG that the little graphic along the bottom stated that a husband and wife cannot be forced to testify against one another.

Mighty convenient time for a weddin', don't ya think??  To me, that seems like the most logical motivator I can think of.

I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm confused with that, I thought that was the case, but since the incident happened before the marriage I don't know if it applies. That is something I don't understand.

Good point NoRose.  I wonder if that would make a difference in a case if they were wed after the incident in question. 

[flamom]

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   Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: darla on Today at 08:53:06 PM
I watched the video of the news conference this afternoon a little bit ago. There was a big difference in Ron's demeaner today than yesterday and the day he gaot his tattoos. He was booging along well those two day...then today had to be helped to stand up? I just do not buy it. He turns his emotions on and off in the drop of a hat.Absolute put on in my opinion.


I thought he looked heavly medicaid and the sunglasses seems like to cover his eyes so you cant tell... 

OMG, too funny "heavily MEDICAID"!!! 

NOT NICE... and NOT FUNNY  knock it off

[Dolce]

Flossy... just your avi lightens the mood. I would just like to know if there are more searches going on? It does not seem that any of the families on either side are out looking. I would be walking every inch I could cover. As far as I know LE just searched a 5 mile radius..

Good evening darla  I don't know if I could lay down and sleep at night if my child were missing.  The not knowing.

I am with you 100% Muffy!!  I couldn't sleep if my dog was missing let alone if one of my children were to ever end up missing...I think they would have to sedate me with horse tranq's to stop me from running the world ragged.

[Dolce]

She does resembles Caylee ... Dolce..Glad your back Dolce.. 

Yes she most certainly does.  Such a sad sad ordeal. 

Thank you, I am limited to my "being back"....

[cookie]

I'm not sure if someone else already mentioned it, but I found it interesting on NG that the little graphic along the bottom stated that a husband and wife cannot be forced to testify against one another.

Mighty convenient time for a weddin', don't ya think??  To me, that seems like the most logical motivator I can think of.

I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm confused with that, I thought that was the case, but since the incident happened before the marriage I don't know if it applies. That is something I don't understand.

Good point NoRose.  I wonder if that would make a difference in a case if they were wed after the incident in question. 

the funny lady lawyer on Nancy Grace, Susan someone,  the rosanna danna one? she said tonight that in the cases of domestic violence or involving a child, that the couple can be made to testify against each other or something to that effect...the transcripts should be up somewhere on this forum...

[MuffyBee]

Flossy... just your avi lightens the mood. I would just like to know if there are more searches going on? It does not seem that any of the families on either side are out looking. I would be walking every inch I could cover. As far as I know LE just searched a 5 mile radius..

Good evening darla  I don't know if I could lay down and sleep at night if my child were missing.  The not knowing.

I am with you 100% Muffy!!  I couldn't sleep if my dog was missing let alone if one of my children were to ever end up missing...I think they would have to sedate me with horse tranq's to stop me from running the world ragged.

ITA

[Dolce]

The personal attacks have been relentless.. Its ok if people think Ron or Misty or Crystal are guilty.. lets bat theories around, not each other 

This is a no-no:



We need more:

  Way to lighten the mood Miss Bee!

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm not sure if someone else already mentioned it, but I found it interesting on NG that the little graphic along the bottom stated that a husband and wife cannot be forced to testify against one another.

Mighty convenient time for a weddin', don't ya think??  To me, that seems like the most logical motivator I can think of.

I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm confused with that, I thought that was the case, but since the incident happened before the marriage I don't know if it applies. That is something I don't understand.

Good point NoRose.  I wonder if that would make a difference in a case if they were wed after the incident in question. 

the funny lady lawyer on Nancy Grace, Susan someone,  the rosanna danna one? she said tonight that in the cases of domestic violence or involving a child, that the couple can be made to testify against each other or something to that effect...the transcripts should be up somewhere on this forum...

Thank-you 

[Jerseygirl345]

I'm not sure if someone else already mentioned it, but I found it interesting on NG that the little graphic along the bottom stated that a husband and wife cannot be forced to testify against one another.

Mighty convenient time for a weddin', don't ya think??  To me, that seems like the most logical motivator I can think of.

I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm confused with that, I thought that was the case, but since the incident happened before the marriage I don't know if it applies. That is something I don't understand.

Good point NoRose.  I wonder if that would make a difference in a case if they were wed after the incident in question. 

Some theories why they got a shot gun engagement do to marry soon..

1. Custody issue
2. Charges might be issued regarding minor- Hes 25 she just turned  17
3. Keeping Misty Quiet what happened
4. Spousal Priviledge.....

[darla]

IIRC I think Island Monkey posted something Sunday night about husband and wife could not be compelled to testify against each other...but it is different if harm is caused to a child. Not sure of exact wording but they can testify.

[klaasend]

snip from Lola:  All the family's records appear to be from the past.

aren't Rons also from the past?

Bolded by me. Can I hear about the motives? Anyone's opinions appreciated.

Lolabelle - this is a tough case.  It appears that both sides of the family have had their own troubles with drugs and the law. 

Fact is, Haleigh went missing while in the custody of her father while teen (Missy) was watching her/them.  Haleighs mom lives over an hour away.  Naturally, LE would look at Misty and Ron and any of THEIR aquaintences first.  Then they would look at Crystal and her family. 

It's very possible that someone outside of the family but who has been watching, knew when Ron would be at work and snatched Haleigh.

[flamom]

JerseyGirl. I agree with all of them.. I am waiting for my local FOX news to tell why RC decided to get married now ( their words)

[Searching]

SOME on this forum seems/appears to have a real attitude problem.  I wish I could see a little more respect for your fellow posters.  Some responses are very confrontational and borders on disrespectful.  Think I will call it a night.  Really hate to see the disrespect here brought by some with an agenda.  State your opinions respectfully.  I hate to see fights being picked here.  JMO

It is about Haleigh.

 
I am right here next to you Blue Moon.  I am in utter shock as this is not what SM is all about.  If half the energy spent in bickering was spent on Haleigh it sure would be a productive thread.  Reading some of this is very embarrassing, as if its a sabotage of posters from another site trying to bring down the moral of SM.

utter or UDDER.. I don't know why,but Flossy is always udderly lovely and really gives me a chuckle....so I had to throw that in there when I seen your post of utter shock..the image of udders swinging in circles is stuck in my head now... lol 

  I never thought of that.. well,yes, I did,but just kept my monkey mouth shut out of fear of making it worse.. that would be so childish though for another forum to do....

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm not sure if someone else already mentioned it, but I found it interesting on NG that the little graphic along the bottom stated that a husband and wife cannot be forced to testify against one another.

Mighty convenient time for a weddin', don't ya think??  To me, that seems like the most logical motivator I can think of.

I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm confused with that, I thought that was the case, but since the incident happened before the marriage I don't know if it applies. That is something I don't understand.

Good point NoRose.  I wonder if that would make a difference in a case if they were wed after the incident in question. 

Some theories why they got a shot gun engagement do to marry soon..

1. Custody issue
2. Charges might be issued regarding minor- Hes 25 she just turned  17
3. Keeping Misty Quiet what happened
4. Spousal Priviledge.....

I'm wondering if it is the custody issue, because if it is the age difference even if they marry, it doesn't erase the fact of the age difference and it being a crime, thought I could be wrong.

[cookie]

I'm not sure if someone else already mentioned it, but I found it interesting on NG that the little graphic along the bottom stated that a husband and wife cannot be forced to testify against one another.

Mighty convenient time for a weddin', don't ya think??  To me, that seems like the most logical motivator I can think of.

I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm confused with that, I thought that was the case, but since the incident happened before the marriage I don't know if it applies. That is something I don't understand.

Good point NoRose.  I wonder if that would make a difference in a case if they were wed after the incident in question. 

Some theories why they got a shot gun engagement do to marry soon..

1. Custody issue
2. Charges might be issued regarding minor- Hes 25 she just turned  17
3. Keeping Misty Quiet what happened
4. Spousal Priviledge.....

spousal privilege has been ruled out on 2 shows that I have watched tonight...one was NG and the other was either HLN or JVM... but all agreed, what is the reason to rush into this marriage at this time with daughter only missing for one month...poor taste etc...at least that is what I took from their conversations..

[lolabelle]

snip from Lola:  All the family's records appear to be from the past.

aren't Rons also from the past?

Bolded by me. Can I hear about the motives? Anyone's opinions appreciated.

Lolabelle - this is a tough case.  It appears that both sides of the family have had their own troubles with drugs and the law. 

Fact is, Haleigh went missing while in the custody of her father when at teen (Missy) was watching her/them.  Haleighs mom lives over an hour away.  Naturally, LE would look at Misty and Ron and any of THEIR aquaintences first.  Then they would look at Crystal and her family. 

It's very possible that someone outside of the family but who has been watching, knew when Ron would be at work and snatched Haleigh.

This is my belief. I just wanted to see exactly what others are thinking.

[MuffyBee]

flamom ~  you mentioned "family abduction" on your list of possible discussions.  Who in the family would take her and why?  (or even if someone else associated with the family took her on request/direction of a family member)

[Dolce]

Ok good, we are making progress.  So the excuse for spousel immunity is most likely a no-go given the law.

So we have to consider the other factors...I saw some posted above by Jersey Girl

  Custody issue
  Charges might be issued regarding minor- Hes 25 she is 17
  Keeping Misty Quiet what happened

Any other ideas??