Haleigh Cummings #5 3/08/09 - 3/11/09

[Sieko]

Does anyone know why they are still holding the RSO for his curfew violation?  Do they hold them indefinatly?  Until a trial or what?

Do we know if he was out on parole, or was it probation? 

According to the website at the link below, there are a number of things that might happen to this guy.  If he violated parole, the court could make him serve out the remainder of his prison sentence, in prison.  If he violated probation, the court could require him to serve some jail time.  In either case, the court may just warn him, let him back out after a hearing, placing him back on parole/probation. 

Other things that could happen is that he could receive a higher level of supervision, be placed in a day program, be given an ankle monitor (or another one if he already had one), and be tried for any new crimes he may have committed while violating parole/probation. 

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/parole_probation/probation_violation_parole.htm

If it's the same guy I'm thinking of (Loucakis or something), I thought he was out on bond awaiting trial.  Don't quote me on that though.

[MuffyBee]

lilymarie~   

[littleone]

Hi littleone  

Hi Muffy..
So nice to "see" you!!

[alagary]

This is to searching . I want to apologize for my trailer remark yesterday . As soon as I hit submit I regretted wording it that way . I hope you see this and please understand that I know it was a stupid thing for me to say . I am very sorry .

reposting this now that I see that your are here . Again I i am sorry how I worded this .

[momm0f4]

Interesting enough, a RSO lived at this address not long ago!

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=9136

[Sieko]

Does anyone know why they are still holding the RSO for his curfew violation?  Do they hold them indefinatly?  Until a trial or what?

Do we know if he was out on parole, or was it probation? 

According to the website at the link below, there are a number of things that might happen to this guy.  If he violated parole, the court could make him serve out the remainder of his prison sentence, in prison.  If he violated probation, the court could require him to serve some jail time.  In either case, the court may just warn him, let him back out after a hearing, placing him back on parole/probation. 

Other things that could happen is that he could receive a higher level of supervision, be placed in a day program, be given an ankle monitor (or another one if he already had one), and be tried for any new crimes he may have committed while violating parole/probation. 

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/parole_probation/probation_violation_parole.htm

If it's the same guy I'm thinking of (Loucakis or something), I thought he was out on bond awaiting trial.  Don't quote me on that though.

Is this him?  Says probation violation.

[islandmonkey]

This is why I'm confused, I'm not sure what we are supposed to talk about on this forum. We don't have a lot of facts, and we discuss rumors, is that right or wrong, I don't know. I've been reading things from locals and relatives, I don't know if they are being truthful or not. Either family's history is stellar when it comes to their brushes with the law, that one can plainly see. What I don't get is with the Caylee case, the family and friends have been put through a shredder so is that right? But discussing how one player or another in this case gives you warning and disturbes you with their actions, you have to be careful what you say. I have no idea what happened to Haleigh, I have my thoughts on it, but I don't want to be accused of bashing a family member. Hopefully there will be more info/leads so this can come to a resolution, a good one of course, but I have my doubts on that.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this............I always thought that's what this forum was for, to toss around ideas, theorize on what may have happened etc. And you are spot on about the Caylee case and everyone put through the ringer......I don't feel I need to be lectured too as how to "use the brain God gave me" or warned if you KWIM The other time the post was even more harsh, not sure if you remember that one, but I was taken aback by the tone of it and put off as well.

NRCG   I need to send you a nanner, if you are ok with that, my addy is pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com

Thanks,

 

Sorry-but I agree with everything that Rob said.  I think that many people have been more than cruel to this family. For me to believe that Rob and Misty have done something terrible to Haleigh-then I would have to also believe that they have outsmarted not only the local LE but also the FBI. I really doubt that. I think people have forgotten that there is a missing SO roaming around out there ....because they are too busy attacking ALL sides of this family.
This sex offender also made his way into a childs home and ripped her panties off while her parents slept.

It bothers me when a "family member" comes to a board like this to post info -and then has forum members digging into and posting info of people who might just not have ANYTHNING to do with the missing childs vanishing. IMO if a "family member" or anyone else for that matter has info-they should call LE NOW-not go through all of the message boards posting bits and pieces....

I watched Mark Lunsford get ripped to shreds because of his "look" ....I watched the same with Steve Groene! Both of these men had NOTHING to do with their loved ones vanishing-yet many people on message boards felt the need to trash them -not only because of their looks but because of how they chose to live their lives...

And of course you don't have to have Rob remind you to use the "brain God gave you"-..i think it was a GENTLE reminder that these people are hurting and they are victims also! But it is pretty easy for people to  post anonymously on message boards.  I think we should all remember that one day Haleigh may read these posts-and she just happens to love her family...(even if they live in a mobile home and get tattoos)

I pray that Haleigh is found very soon-she has been gone too long ...

Thank you for your opinion, but I feel differently.........My opinion is not due to where they live, nor the tattoos (although the timing of them, and the wedding are quite odd).

Frankly, I NEVER thought Steve Groene or Mark Lunsford were guilty, so I'll move on to to other areas as family members. They are grasping at straws and begging for help, they have shared what they know (which is very little ) with LE, they just want to find the truth and to find Haliegh. I see Crystal as a victim as well, and hate to see her slammed because no one took the time to read the 54 page custody document.
 

[Sieko]

Does anyone know why they are still holding the RSO for his curfew violation?  Do they hold them indefinatly?  Until a trial or what?

Do we know if he was out on parole, or was it probation? 

According to the website at the link below, there are a number of things that might happen to this guy.  If he violated parole, the court could make him serve out the remainder of his prison sentence, in prison.  If he violated probation, the court could require him to serve some jail time.  In either case, the court may just warn him, let him back out after a hearing, placing him back on parole/probation. 

Other things that could happen is that he could receive a higher level of supervision, be placed in a day program, be given an ankle monitor (or another one if he already had one), and be tried for any new crimes he may have committed while violating parole/probation. 

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/parole_probation/probation_violation_parole.htm

If it's the same guy I'm thinking of (Loucakis or something), I thought he was out on bond awaiting trial.  Don't quote me on that though.

Is this him?  Says probation violation.

I'm such a dough head some times.  Here's the link.
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=752483&IMG=56906

[momm0f4]

Interesting enough, a RSO lived at this address not long ago!

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=9136

oops, and this is where he uses Haleighs home address..

http://www.city-data.com/soz/soz-32189.html

[Wyks]

Hi Tabby, and welcome!     

 

[fatcatlurker]

Does anyone know why they are still holding the RSO for his curfew violation?  Do they hold them indefinatly?  Until a trial or what?

Do we know if he was out on parole, or was it probation? 

According to the website at the link below, there are a number of things that might happen to this guy.  If he violated parole, the court could make him serve out the remainder of his prison sentence, in prison.  If he violated probation, the court could require him to serve some jail time.  In either case, the court may just warn him, let him back out after a hearing, placing him back on parole/probation. 

Other things that could happen is that he could receive a higher level of supervision, be placed in a day program, be given an ankle monitor (or another one if he already had one), and be tried for any new crimes he may have committed while violating parole/probation. 

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/parole_probation/probation_violation_parole.htm

Thank you wkys!  I only ask because it was questioned in this NG show by those who know more, so I will look at the site you link you gave me.  I don't think it's related, but awful interesting to me.

To T.J. What can you tell me about the search outside the home of that convicted sex offender?

T.J. HART, WSKY 97.3 FM: Well, this is a precautionary search, as we were told, of Timothy Loucakis`s home. He was arrested, as we mentioned at the top of the show, for violating his curfew. Now, he was sentenced in 2001 for child abuse and promoting sexual performance by a child. This is a follow-up to his breaking of curfew. They don`t believe this has anything to do with the disappearance of Haleigh, but they`re doing their follow-up on this just to be sure.

GRACE: Let`s unleash the lawyers. Joining us tonight out of LA, Gloria Allred, victims` rights advocate, Penny Douglas Furr out of Atlanta, defense attorney, and Joey Jackson, defense attorney out of New York.

Gloria, they did not arrest the man simply because of a curfew violation. Now, I`m not saying that this convicted sex offender who sent child porn over the Internet, trying to meet a 10-year-old little girl -- you know what? Whatever. I`m not saying he`s connected to Haleigh`s disappearance. But I am saying, and I`d put everything I own on it, you do not arrest somebody simply for a curfew violation, Gloria.

GLORIA ALLRED, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Well, it`s really hard to know why they arrested him. Apparently, that`s what they`re saying, and apparently, they have excluded him, as well, because -- since he was in his home wearing an ankle bracelet or other identifying equipment, they were able to pinpoint him as having been at his home or in his yard at the time of Haleigh`s disappearance. However, when they know that he has no -- that he has committed a curfew violation, then they have to make an arrest because this is a high-profile case.

GRACE: To Natisha Lance, our producer, also outside the family tent. Natisha, clearing him is based on a timeline given to us by the girlfriend, all right? So you know, we`ve got to confirm that timeline before he can be totally cleared.

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: That`s right, Nancy. But what police are saying right now is that he was in his home zone area, which is within a mile of the Cummings home. Now, they`re also saying that this home zone area is not around the Cummings home. They feel comfortable with where he was at that time.

GRACE: To Tom Shamshak, former police chief. He`s now a private investigator and instructor at Boston University. Tom, can an ankle bracelet be beaten?

TOM SHAMSHAK, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Good evening, Nancy. Nancy, that`s an open question. People I`ve spoken to say they are not fool- proof. This material that is around the ankle is nylon-like, with electrodes and wires attached to it. It is locked by a mechanism. Again, people have said it is not fool-proof, so that`s an open question.

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Faith I can imagine your feelings over this, but you certainly did the right thing. It is good to know that LE is taking sightings seriously, with no time wasted at all . Take care.

Faith, a clap of the hands to you for what you did.  Even though it turned out not to be Haleigh, it very well could have been another abducted child, and by bringing this to the open would have been a way to solve another case.

This is the problem now a days, no one wants to be involved...speaking out, noticing different actions by others that become strange and reporting them. 

Sieko, GramaMonkey, Fatcatlurker, Wyks, Alagary,

Thank you all very much for being so supportive.  I actually feel much better about it now.  Fatcatlurker, now what you did was brave!  That took guts.  To face the woman, lock her in the store, I can't imagine.  But thank God for you.  I bet that baby's life would have turned out very differently if it weren't for your protection.  You monkeys make me feel so thankful to post here!   

good job fellow monkeys to intervene on a child's behalf...I have also done the same thing...2 children were left outside in a hot car, middle of summer, all alone....crying..the oldest one about 2 was trying to crawl out of an open sun roof....I stood outside the car till the mother came out, and I use that term loosely...carrying a 6 pack of beer, puffing on a cigarette telling me, what cho doin poking your nose into my business? I said, you should never leave young children alone in a car, I was merely watching them for you till you had your shopping done...She got right in my face, all 200 lbs or her and told me to mind my own business...I told her that it was my business when a child was in danger....She could have pounded me....I was inwardly saying to myself, oh lord, you have done it this time...but I stood my ground...all 125 lbs of me and stared her down...she got in her car...telling her kids to shut up! and drove quickly away...I was so mad...
this has happened to me a number of times where I have confronted people about their treatment of  child...one lady had smacked a little 2 yr old right in the face in the parking lot of a shopping mall...boy did I get all over her...told her that I was going to call the police...Know what she said, go ahead!

[Sieko]

This is why I'm confused, I'm not sure what we are supposed to talk about on this forum. We don't have a lot of facts, and we discuss rumors, is that right or wrong, I don't know. I've been reading things from locals and relatives, I don't know if they are being truthful or not. Either family's history is stellar when it comes to their brushes with the law, that one can plainly see. What I don't get is with the Caylee case, the family and friends have been put through a shredder so is that right? But discussing how one player or another in this case gives you warning and disturbes you with their actions, you have to be careful what you say. I have no idea what happened to Haleigh, I have my thoughts on it, but I don't want to be accused of bashing a family member. Hopefully there will be more info/leads so this can come to a resolution, a good one of course, but I have my doubts on that.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this............I always thought that's what this forum was for, to toss around ideas, theorize on what may have happened etc. And you are spot on about the Caylee case and everyone put through the ringer......I don't feel I need to be lectured too as how to "use the brain God gave me" or warned if you KWIM The other time the post was even more harsh, not sure if you remember that one, but I was taken aback by the tone of it and put off as well.

NRCG   I need to send you a nanner, if you are ok with that, my addy is pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com

Thanks,

 

Sorry-but I agree with everything that Rob said.  I think that many people have been more than cruel to this family. For me to believe that Rob and Misty have done something terrible to Haleigh-then I would have to also believe that they have outsmarted not only the local LE but also the FBI. I really doubt that. I think people have forgotten that there is a missing SO roaming around out there ....because they are too busy attacking ALL sides of this family.
This sex offender also made his way into a childs home and ripped her panties off while her parents slept.

It bothers me when a "family member" comes to a board like this to post info -and then has forum members digging into and posting info of people who might just not have ANYTHNING to do with the missing childs vanishing. IMO if a "family member" or anyone else for that matter has info-they should call LE NOW-not go through all of the message boards posting bits and pieces....

I watched Mark Lunsford get ripped to shreds because of his "look" ....I watched the same with Steve Groene! Both of these men had NOTHING to do with their loved ones vanishing-yet many people on message boards felt the need to trash them -not only because of their looks but because of how they chose to live their lives...

And of course you don't have to have Rob remind you to use the "brain God gave you"-..i think it was a GENTLE reminder that these people are hurting and they are victims also! But it is pretty easy for people to  post anonymously on message boards.  I think we should all remember that one day Haleigh may read these posts-and she just happens to love her family...(even if they live in a mobile home and get tattoos)

I pray that Haleigh is found very soon-she has been gone too long ...

Thank you for your opinion, but I feel differently.........My opinion is not due to where they live, nor the tattoos (although the timing of them, and the wedding are quite odd).

Frankly, I NEVER thought Steve Groene or Mark Lunsford were guilty, so I'll move on to to other areas as family members. They are grasping at straws and begging for help, they have shared what they know (which is very little ) with LE, they just want to find the truth and to find Haliegh. I see Crystal as a victim as well, and hate to see her slammed because no one took the time to read the 54 page custody document.
 

I read it, and she did not lose custody due to neglect.  IIRC, the judge gave them both praise as to how they handled the situation.

[higherhopes]

Hello Monkeys, I am so hoping that today will be the day that we get some news about little Haleigh. I just  hate that it has been this long and we still dont know a thing about what happened to her, oh we have rumors and thoughts and our own opinions about what MIGHT have happened but they really dont amount to much without actually knowing the real reason Haleigh is not where she should be.....

   I feel like whatever happened to Haleigh at this point, no one knows exept, Haleigh and the person that took her, or perhaps, whoever this person may have said something to, for it is not uncommon for a person to tell or brag to someone about what they did or a crime that they committed and think they got away with.

  So first let me say that IF, and I mean IF, Mistie or Ron had anything to do with Haleigh being gone then it will be found out, as time goes by and things settle down, Lovers fight, husband and wives get into arguements, they have disagreements, and then someone leaves and in the middle of slingging mud on each other they look for sympathy from others and almost always say something to put the other in a bad light or to keep themselves looking like they are innocent and that the other person has put them through hell! So if thats the case, it will be brought to light....

 Now IF and I say IF again Chrstal has anything to do with Haleigh being gone, which I myself have a hard time believing, then that will come out to, I mean  if she took her or had her taken, then just what is she planning on doing with her, will she just one day show up with Haliegh in tow  and say, hey look everybody, she came back.....NO.......   and so I dont believe this theory at all...because if thats the case and if so she wants her back with her then again, someone is gonna talk, they will be too many involved.......

Now last is what LE says they think happened...abduction......now when they say this....thats what they mean,   its and abduction.......they are not saying that they know who abducted her,   they are not saying that she didnt know the person or that Ron or Misty didnt know the person, just that someone abducted her, and that my friends is what happened,   she is gone and without signs that she is dead, which they are none, then she is in fact.....abducted!!!!
 I think we try to read too much into this simple word.....what else are they suppose to call it......TRUST.....they will figure it out.......they always do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lilymarie]

This is why I'm confused, I'm not sure what we are supposed to talk about on this forum. We don't have a lot of facts, and we discuss rumors, is that right or wrong, I don't know. I've been reading things from locals and relatives, I don't know if they are being truthful or not. Either family's history is stellar when it comes to their brushes with the law, that one can plainly see. What I don't get is with the Caylee case, the family and friends have been put through a shredder so is that right? But discussing how one player or another in this case gives you warning and disturbes you with their actions, you have to be careful what you say. I have no idea what happened to Haleigh, I have my thoughts on it, but I don't want to be accused of bashing a family member. Hopefully there will be more info/leads so this can come to a resolution, a good one of course, but I have my doubts on that.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this............I always thought that's what this forum was for, to toss around ideas, theorize on what may have happened etc. And you are spot on about the Caylee case and everyone put through the ringer......I don't feel I need to be lectured too as how to "use the brain God gave me" or warned if you KWIM The other time the post was even more harsh, not sure if you remember that one, but I was taken aback by the tone of it and put off as well.

NRCG   I need to send you a nanner, if you are ok with that, my addy is pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com

Thanks,

 

Sorry-but I agree with everything that Rob said.  I think that many people have been more than cruel to this family. For me to believe that Rob and Misty have done something terrible to Haleigh-then I would have to also believe that they have outsmarted not only the local LE but also the FBI. I really doubt that. I think people have forgotten that there is a missing SO roaming around out there ....because they are too busy attacking ALL sides of this family.
This sex offender also made his way into a childs home and ripped her panties off while her parents slept.

It bothers me when a "family member" comes to a board like this to post info -and then has forum members digging into and posting info of people who might just not have ANYTHNING to do with the missing childs vanishing. IMO if a "family member" or anyone else for that matter has info-they should call LE NOW-not go through all of the message boards posting bits and pieces....

I watched Mark Lunsford get ripped to shreds because of his "look" ....I watched the same with Steve Groene! Both of these men had NOTHING to do with their loved ones vanishing-yet many people on message boards felt the need to trash them -not only because of their looks but because of how they chose to live their lives...

And of course you don't have to have Rob remind you to use the "brain God gave you"-..i think it was a GENTLE reminder that these people are hurting and they are victims also! But it is pretty easy for people to  post anonymously on message boards.  I think we should all remember that one day Haleigh may read these posts-and she just happens to love her family...(even if they live in a mobile home and get tattoos)

I pray that Haleigh is found very soon-she has been gone too long ...

Thank you for your opinion, but I feel differently.........My opinion is not due to where they live, nor the tattoos (although the timing of them, and the wedding are quite odd).

Frankly, I NEVER thought Steve Groene or Mark Lunsford were guilty, so I'll move on to to other areas as family members. They are grasping at straws and begging for help, they have shared what they know (which is very little ) with LE, they just want to find the truth and to find Haliegh. I see Crystal as a victim as well, and hate to see her slammed because no one took the time to read the 54 page custody document.
 

I'd be interested to know what your opinion is based on, islandmonkey? I am not sure of Ron/Misty's guilt or innocence so I am always interested in what helps someone come to a conclusion? Thanks

[littleone]

This is why I'm confused, I'm not sure what we are supposed to talk about on this forum. We don't have a lot of facts, and we discuss rumors, is that right or wrong, I don't know. I've been reading things from locals and relatives, I don't know if they are being truthful or not. Either family's history is stellar when it comes to their brushes with the law, that one can plainly see. What I don't get is with the Caylee case, the family and friends have been put through a shredder so is that right? But discussing how one player or another in this case gives you warning and disturbes you with their actions, you have to be careful what you say. I have no idea what happened to Haleigh, I have my thoughts on it, but I don't want to be accused of bashing a family member. Hopefully there will be more info/leads so this can come to a resolution, a good one of course, but I have my doubts on that.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this............I always thought that's what this forum was for, to toss around ideas, theorize on what may have happened etc. And you are spot on about the Caylee case and everyone put through the ringer......I don't feel I need to be lectured too as how to "use the brain God gave me" or warned if you KWIM The other time the post was even more harsh, not sure if you remember that one, but I was taken aback by the tone of it and put off as well.

NRCG   I need to send you a nanner, if you are ok with that, my addy is pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com

Thanks,

 

Sorry-but I agree with everything that Rob said.  I think that many people have been more than cruel to this family. For me to believe that Rob and Misty have done something terrible to Haleigh-then I would have to also believe that they have outsmarted not only the local LE but also the FBI. I really doubt that. I think people have forgotten that there is a missing SO roaming around out there ....because they are too busy attacking ALL sides of this family.
This sex offender also made his way into a childs home and ripped her panties off while her parents slept.

It bothers me when a "family member" comes to a board like this to post info -and then has forum members digging into and posting info of people who might just not have ANYTHNING to do with the missing childs vanishing. IMO if a "family member" or anyone else for that matter has info-they should call LE NOW-not go through all of the message boards posting bits and pieces....

I watched Mark Lunsford get ripped to shreds because of his "look" ....I watched the same with Steve Groene! Both of these men had NOTHING to do with their loved ones vanishing-yet many people on message boards felt the need to trash them -not only because of their looks but because of how they chose to live their lives...

And of course you don't have to have Rob remind you to use the "brain God gave you"-..i think it was a GENTLE reminder that these people are hurting and they are victims also! But it is pretty easy for people to  post anonymously on message boards.  I think we should all remember that one day Haleigh may read these posts-and she just happens to love her family...(even if they live in a mobile home and get tattoos)

I pray that Haleigh is found very soon-she has been gone too long ...

Thank you for your opinion, but I feel differently.........My opinion is not due to where they live, nor the tattoos (although the timing of them, and the wedding are quite odd).

Frankly, I NEVER thought Steve Groene or Mark Lunsford were guilty, so I'll move on to to other areas as family members. They are grasping at straws and begging for help, they have shared what they know (which is very little ) with LE, they just want to find the truth and to find Haliegh. I see Crystal as a victim as well, and hate to see her slammed because no one took the time to read the 54 page custody document.
 

I just more than anything want Haleigh found. I pray that noone in her family has harmed her. She is such a precious littleone! 

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This is why I'm confused, I'm not sure what we are supposed to talk about on this forum. We don't have a lot of facts, and we discuss rumors, is that right or wrong, I don't know. I've been reading things from locals and relatives, I don't know if they are being truthful or not. Either family's history is stellar when it comes to their brushes with the law, that one can plainly see. What I don't get is with the Caylee case, the family and friends have been put through a shredder so is that right? But discussing how one player or another in this case gives you warning and disturbes you with their actions, you have to be careful what you say. I have no idea what happened to Haleigh, I have my thoughts on it, but I don't want to be accused of bashing a family member. Hopefully there will be more info/leads so this can come to a resolution, a good one of course, but I have my doubts on that.

Rosie, maybe because there is so much evidence against Casey that has been put out there by LE via the dockets? and there isn't anything out there about anyone in this family that is being put out there to indicate that anyone is guilty of anything? dunno..just a guess...and I suspect that most everyone on the Casey/Caylee thread "agree" with each other and no one over there is defending Casey? at least no one that I have seen but maybe they took off cause it wasn't the popular way of thinking? dunno that either...

[islandmonkey]

This is why I'm confused, I'm not sure what we are supposed to talk about on this forum. We don't have a lot of facts, and we discuss rumors, is that right or wrong, I don't know. I've been reading things from locals and relatives, I don't know if they are being truthful or not. Either family's history is stellar when it comes to their brushes with the law, that one can plainly see. What I don't get is with the Caylee case, the family and friends have been put through a shredder so is that right? But discussing how one player or another in this case gives you warning and disturbes you with their actions, you have to be careful what you say. I have no idea what happened to Haleigh, I have my thoughts on it, but I don't want to be accused of bashing a family member. Hopefully there will be more info/leads so this can come to a resolution, a good one of course, but I have my doubts on that.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this............I always thought that's what this forum was for, to toss around ideas, theorize on what may have happened etc. And you are spot on about the Caylee case and everyone put through the ringer......I don't feel I need to be lectured too as how to "use the brain God gave me" or warned if you KWIM The other time the post was even more harsh, not sure if you remember that one, but I was taken aback by the tone of it and put off as well.

NRCG   I need to send you a nanner, if you are ok with that, my addy is pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com

Thanks,

 

Sorry-but I agree with everything that Rob said.  I think that many people have been more than cruel to this family. For me to believe that Rob and Misty have done something terrible to Haleigh-then I would have to also believe that they have outsmarted not only the local LE but also the FBI. I really doubt that. I think people have forgotten that there is a missing SO roaming around out there ....because they are too busy attacking ALL sides of this family.
This sex offender also made his way into a childs home and ripped her panties off while her parents slept.

It bothers me when a "family member" comes to a board like this to post info -and then has forum members digging into and posting info of people who might just not have ANYTHNING to do with the missing childs vanishing. IMO if a "family member" or anyone else for that matter has info-they should call LE NOW-not go through all of the message boards posting bits and pieces....

I watched Mark Lunsford get ripped to shreds because of his "look" ....I watched the same with Steve Groene! Both of these men had NOTHING to do with their loved ones vanishing-yet many people on message boards felt the need to trash them -not only because of their looks but because of how they chose to live their lives...

And of course you don't have to have Rob remind you to use the "brain God gave you"-..i think it was a GENTLE reminder that these people are hurting and they are victims also! But it is pretty easy for people to  post anonymously on message boards.  I think we should all remember that one day Haleigh may read these posts-and she just happens to love her family...(even if they live in a mobile home and get tattoos)

I pray that Haleigh is found very soon-she has been gone too long ...

Thank you for your opinion, but I feel differently.........My opinion is not due to where they live, nor the tattoos (although the timing of them, and the wedding are quite odd).

Frankly, I NEVER thought Steve Groene or Mark Lunsford were guilty, so I'll move on to to other areas as family members. They are grasping at straws and begging for help, they have shared what they know (which is very little ) with LE, they just want to find the truth and to find Haliegh. I see Crystal as a victim as well, and hate to see her slammed because no one took the time to read the 54 page custody document.
 

I read it, and she did not lose custody due to neglect.  IIRC, the judge gave them both praise as to how they handled the situation.

That's right according to the Magistrate, his ruling stated he have Ron custody because he had a job and he would have inurance in 3 months. I have seen so many posting well she must have done something horrible to lose custody, yet few actually take the time to read the document..plus, I know from personal experience from what my EX did to his EX prior to me, sometimes it's all in how you play the game.....Unfortunately, my precious step children were harmed because she lost custody to his game playing and cold hard cash, no child should have to endure that

[fatcatlurker]

Yes I was looking for RSO Timothy Loucakis and he is still locked up.  I was just wondering why.  Thank you all.  Address = confined...I like that!

[tabby]

Hi Tabby, and welcome!     

 

Hi Wyks! Thanks

To those discussing the sex offender, the one missing concerns me worse. I have spent three days reading everything I can find on him and he really concerns me. He broke into a home with parents and another child in the same room and cut away an 11 year olds panties and molested her. That takes crazy guts so we know he wouldn't be scared to come in there.

The fact that LE doesn't act like they care where he is or if he is even alive makes me wonder if they aren't playing dumb on purpose. You can't clear someone when you don't know where they are. This was in Putnam County FGS. Why wouldn't they be concerned? They sure can't rule him out as far as I can see.