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« Reply #1800 on: March 11, 2009, 06:50:55 PM »

Except Miss Tabby that IM has offered money to the family and they did not take it...they are crazy if they did turn it down as it could have went towards the reward money in my opinion...
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« Reply #1801 on: March 11, 2009, 06:51:32 PM »

tabby, that is money was offered to Crystal's family and they turned it down...
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« Reply #1802 on: March 11, 2009, 06:52:36 PM »

hello i am new at posting but i have been reading all the stuff for about 2 weeks just don't like to post hi to all

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Glad you decided to start posting!

Someone asked who is T.J Hart:

I had the same question and googled the name. Besides coming up with a porn actress (most hits) I found out that T.J Hart is: "T.J. HART, NEWS DIRECTOR, WSKY." Has been a guest on JVM's "Issues" and apparently was just on HLN's show.

Again, welcome to The Cage, starcat!
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« Reply #1803 on: March 11, 2009, 06:52:45 PM »

well well well....I step out of the cage for a few hours and what do I see? A wonderful positive, respectful informative discussion going on for the most part...! good job Monkey Moos....

Minnie...thrilled that you are back...
Searching...your posts rock so no need to step back...more to step forward with sensible posts like yours! jmo of course...

what does an abuser look like? hmmm....well, some that I have known in my lifetime are bankers, CEO s , janitors, all nice friendly guys...willing to help others with anything, give people the shirt off their backs...but nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors...And the women who are abused, not all of them are beat down victims in the public eye...the CEO s wife had a smiley pearly white smile, the nicest clothes, went to lunch with friends, had a great old time...time the night time, after hubby had a few brewskies...Oh yes, did I mention that she had plenty of money to buy the finest makeup to hide the bruises and the swollen lips?
so, an abuser of any sort does not have a sign on their back and none of us should be fooled into thinking that they are obvious in my opinion...just like child molesters...no sign on their backs either...
anyway, we are at least getting somewhere on this case it seems with a good discussion...some good facts...carry on Monkey Moos...

did anyone guess that I used to be a cheerleader? 

oh, one more thing, Crystal is the first to lawyer up...any thoughts on that one? Who is paying for her lawyer? she doesn't work and her fiancee, Chad has been off of work since Haleigh went missing as far as we know, same as Ron has been...where are they getting their money? they still have bills to pay as well.......did Geraldo come across with a little cash? shouldn't Crystal share that with Ron? Haleigh is after daughter to both of them...

Good question since it was said they are refusing donations....maybe she could try to catch up her back child support?

Searching, my idol monkey, the funeral home set up donation accounts for both families. I doubt they are turning them down.
Someone from the board here offered to pay for a hotel or something for a month and they turned it down (CS).

I know, but they are accepting donations through the funeral home. (Jamie Watts 72 hwy 17 south, etc).
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« Reply #1804 on: March 11, 2009, 06:54:53 PM »

well well well....I step out of the cage for a few hours and what do I see? A wonderful positive, respectful informative discussion going on for the most part...! good job Monkey Moos....

Minnie...thrilled that you are back...
Searching...your posts rock so no need to step back...more to step forward with sensible posts like yours! jmo of course...

what does an abuser look like? hmmm....well, some that I have known in my lifetime are bankers, CEO s , janitors, all nice friendly guys...willing to help others with anything, give people the shirt off their backs...but nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors...And the women who are abused, not all of them are beat down victims in the public eye...the CEO s wife had a smiley pearly white smile, the nicest clothes, went to lunch with friends, had a great old time...time the night time, after hubby had a few brewskies...Oh yes, did I mention that she had plenty of money to buy the finest makeup to hide the bruises and the swollen lips?
so, an abuser of any sort does not have a sign on their back and none of us should be fooled into thinking that they are obvious in my opinion...just like child molesters...no sign on their backs either...
anyway, we are at least getting somewhere on this case it seems with a good discussion...some good facts...carry on Monkey Moos...

did anyone guess that I used to be a cheerleader? 

oh, one more thing, Crystal is the first to lawyer up...any thoughts on that one? Who is paying for her lawyer? she doesn't work and her fiancee, Chad has been off of work since Haleigh went missing as far as we know, same as Ron has been...where are they getting their money? they still have bills to pay as well.......did Geraldo come across with a little cash? shouldn't Crystal share that with Ron? Haleigh is after daughter to both of them...

Good question since it was said they are refusing donations....maybe she could try to catch up her back child support?

Searching, my idol monkey, the funeral home set up donation accounts for both families. I doubt they are turning them down.

Hi Tabby, thanks. I knew they set one up for RC but I thought it was said that was the only one a fund was set up for.. hmm.. maybe that was another "locals" rumor to muddy waters.....Thank you for that information,so now we know Crystal is getting donations as well..
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« Reply #1805 on: March 11, 2009, 06:55:38 PM »

well well well....I step out of the cage for a few hours and what do I see? A wonderful positive, respectful informative discussion going on for the most part...! good job Monkey Moos....

Minnie...thrilled that you are back...
Searching...your posts rock so no need to step back...more to step forward with sensible posts like yours! jmo of course...

what does an abuser look like? hmmm....well, some that I have known in my lifetime are bankers, CEO s , janitors, all nice friendly guys...willing to help others with anything, give people the shirt off their backs...but nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors...And the women who are abused, not all of them are beat down victims in the public eye...the CEO s wife had a smiley pearly white smile, the nicest clothes, went to lunch with friends, had a great old time...time the night time, after hubby had a few brewskies...Oh yes, did I mention that she had plenty of money to buy the finest makeup to hide the bruises and the swollen lips?
so, an abuser of any sort does not have a sign on their back and none of us should be fooled into thinking that they are obvious in my opinion...just like child molesters...no sign on their backs either...
anyway, we are at least getting somewhere on this case it seems with a good discussion...some good facts...carry on Monkey Moos...

did anyone guess that I used to be a cheerleader? 

oh, one more thing, Crystal is the first to lawyer up...any thoughts on that one? Who is paying for her lawyer? she doesn't work and her fiancee, Chad has been off of work since Haleigh went missing as far as we know, same as Ron has been...where are they getting their money? they still have bills to pay as well.......did Geraldo come across with a little cash? shouldn't Crystal share that with Ron? Haleigh is after daughter to both of them...

Good question since it was said they are refusing donations....maybe she could try to catch up her back child support?

Searching, my idol monkey, the funeral home set up donation accounts for both families. I doubt they are turning them down.
Someone from the board here offered to pay for a hotel or something for a month and they turned it down (CS).

I know, but they are accepting donations through the funeral home. (Jamie Watts 72 hwy 17 south, etc).

Quoting myself to say that what I said may not be true. I don't know that the a/c is being shared. I thought I had read that, but maybe not.
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« Reply #1806 on: March 11, 2009, 06:56:00 PM »

hello i am new at posting but i have been reading all the stuff for about 2 weeks just don't like to post hi to all

First off, starcat:



Glad you decided to start posting!

Someone asked who is T.J Hart:

I had the same question and googled the name. Besides coming up with a porn actress (most hits) I found out that T.J Hart is: "T.J. HART, NEWS DIRECTOR, WSKY." Has been a guest on JVM's "Issues" and apparently was just on HLN's show.

Again, welcome to The Cage, starcat!
Me too.  I was thinking "what kind of news show are these monkeys watching"?

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« Reply #1807 on: March 11, 2009, 06:56:12 PM »

unless she was passed off to someone else whom is laying low.... it is always possible and it is my hope that this is what has happened.. a family abduction where she has been handed off and is being hidden.. maybe the "underground railroad"? you know the ones that hide abused children and parents.... It is real... even if we think it is not... maybe Crystal has her tucked away for her protection? or another family member pulled it off for Haleighs protection.. just seems to well done and to much knowledge of house,routine for me to think stranger and also, that dang missing item is just plucking at my last nerve... I wanna know what it is.. I think monkeys are right and it is the nebulizer..if they intended harm, why take that?

anyone taking her between 10pm and 3am has formed intent and an accident doesn't make it any less appealing to me - nor forgivable.
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« Reply #1808 on: March 11, 2009, 06:56:25 PM »

tabby, that is money was offered to Crystal's family and they turned it down...

I think what was offered was one month's rent somewhere close by since Crystal lives quite a ways from there. I could be wrong.
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« Reply #1809 on: March 11, 2009, 06:59:04 PM »


Also, haven't they said that several people saw Haleigh up to 5 or 6:00? I think they are mostly connected to Ron's side of the family but I think that there are: A/C repair guy, Misty's brother, 2 of Misty's nephews, gma and ggma (or maybe just ggma?)?

From what I understand, Ron was already gone for work when Haleigh was last seen. This leaves Misty the only known adult with the kids from 6-3 or so. In order for JR not to have seen something happen to Haleigh he would have had to be sleeping - in my opinion. So that leaves a window of 8:30 - 3 or so? That is not very much time to put together the perfect crime, in my opinion. A crime that means Haleigh was harmed, and her body disposed of with NO EVIDENCE. Plus, what motive would Misty have being a caretaker to Haleigh with all of the obvious loving family support? It just doesn't add up.

totally agree... and don't ya'll think the police and FBI know this too?

taking that all into consideration there are only so many possibilities remaining.

1. vaporization or de-materialization - nada. doesn't happen.

2. Misty has conned everyone and is even more diabolical than Casey Anthony. Jury is still out and I'm not leaning this way at all.

3. Unknown predator - most likely in my opinion.

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something has happened to Haleigh - but what?

The fact that the police and FBI have not said lock your doors, button down the hatches, close the chimney flue, and don't let the kids outta yer sight!! - does not mean that there is NOT a predator running around.

To avoid panic the police may not say those very things. At this point no one knows what happened to Haleigh other than Haleigh herself and the person responsible for whatever it is that has actually occurred.

 
Or maybe 4.) Family member meaning no harm to her but taking her for reasons known to them (reason for the possibility of  nebulizer going with her)

Hi Rob Smile

Hi Searching... I kinda thought of that one too... but what would a family member be taking her for between 10pm and 3 am?

I am putting out my feelings out there on this (it is totally an opinion only).  For some odd reason I really feel this is a family related abduction.  Why?  Because if I remember correctly Ron and Chrystal were heading to court shortly after HL's disappearance over unpaid child support.  There are serious problems within that family on ALL sides.  This tit-for-tat has been going on for a long time and those two children were caught in the middle of Daddy, Mommy, Mommy2, gmothers, ggmothers, Mommy2's cast of charaters.  Someone was paid from a member of that family to kidnap her and take her to safety (whatever that is).  The dynamics in this family is not healthy on adults much less small children.  I believe she is alive and someone familiar with her has her and just my opinion I feel Misty knows who that is.   
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« Reply #1810 on: March 11, 2009, 06:59:08 PM »

hello i am new at posting but i have been reading all the stuff for about 2 weeks just don't like to post hi to all

First off, starcat:



Glad you decided to start posting!

Someone asked who is T.J Hart:

I had the same question and googled the name. Besides coming up with a porn actress (most hits) I found out that T.J Hart is: "T.J. HART, NEWS DIRECTOR, WSKY." Has been a guest on JVM's "Issues" and apparently was just on HLN's show.

Again, welcome to The Cage, starcat!
Me too.  I was thinking "what kind of news show are these monkeys watching"?

LOL!
  

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« Reply #1811 on: March 11, 2009, 06:59:16 PM »

tabby, that is money was offered to Crystal's family and they turned it down...

I think what was offered was one month's rent somewhere close by since Crystal lives quite a ways from there. I could be wrong.

I know about IM's generous offer. I think I was mistaken as I said above. The funeral home a/c is just for Ron's side, I think. I hope someone is helping both sides because they have to eat, etc. Sorry for posting without thinking! I had read that the funeral home would accept for both but I think maybe that was a scam by someone.
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« Reply #1812 on: March 11, 2009, 07:02:31 PM »

well well well....I step out of the cage for a few hours and what do I see? A wonderful positive, respectful informative discussion going on for the most part...! good job Monkey Moos....

Minnie...thrilled that you are back...
Searching...your posts rock so no need to step back...more to step forward with sensible posts like yours! jmo of course...

what does an abuser look like? hmmm....well, some that I have known in my lifetime are bankers, CEO s , janitors, all nice friendly guys...willing to help others with anything, give people the shirt off their backs...but nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors...And the women who are abused, not all of them are beat down victims in the public eye...the CEO s wife had a smiley pearly white smile, the nicest clothes, went to lunch with friends, had a great old time...time the night time, after hubby had a few brewskies...Oh yes, did I mention that she had plenty of money to buy the finest makeup to hide the bruises and the swollen lips?
so, an abuser of any sort does not have a sign on their back and none of us should be fooled into thinking that they are obvious in my opinion...just like child molesters...no sign on their backs either...
anyway, we are at least getting somewhere on this case it seems with a good discussion...some good facts...carry on Monkey Moos...

did anyone guess that I used to be a cheerleader? 

oh, one more thing, Crystal is the first to lawyer up...any thoughts on that one? Who is paying for her lawyer? she doesn't work and her fiancee, Chad has been off of work since Haleigh went missing as far as we know, same as Ron has been...where are they getting their money? they still have bills to pay as well.......did Geraldo come across with a little cash? shouldn't Crystal share that with Ron? Haleigh is after daughter to both of them...

Good question since it was said they are refusing donations....maybe she could try to catch up her back child support?

Searching, my idol monkey, the funeral home set up donation accounts for both families. I doubt they are turning them down.
Someone from the board here offered to pay for a hotel or something for a month and they turned it down (CS).

I know, but they are accepting donations through the funeral home. (Jamie Watts 72 hwy 17 south, etc).

Quoting myself to say that what I said may not be true. I don't know that the a/c is being shared. I thought I had read that, but maybe not.
I checked their website but no mention of Haleigh's family.  I was under the impression the donations going to the funeral home were for the Cummings family, but not sure.  The only place I have seen with Crystal's name associated with the funeral home is that bogus website that was up asking for donations.
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« Reply #1813 on: March 11, 2009, 07:04:43 PM »


Also, haven't they said that several people saw Haleigh up to 5 or 6:00? I think they are mostly connected to Ron's side of the family but I think that there are: A/C repair guy, Misty's brother, 2 of Misty's nephews, gma and ggma (or maybe just ggma?)?

From what I understand, Ron was already gone for work when Haleigh was last seen. This leaves Misty the only known adult with the kids from 6-3 or so. In order for JR not to have seen something happen to Haleigh he would have had to be sleeping - in my opinion. So that leaves a window of 8:30 - 3 or so? That is not very much time to put together the perfect crime, in my opinion. A crime that means Haleigh was harmed, and her body disposed of with NO EVIDENCE. Plus, what motive would Misty have being a caretaker to Haleigh with all of the obvious loving family support? It just doesn't add up.

totally agree... and don't ya'll think the police and FBI know this too?

taking that all into consideration there are only so many possibilities remaining.

1. vaporization or de-materialization - nada. doesn't happen.

2. Misty has conned everyone and is even more diabolical than Casey Anthony. Jury is still out and I'm not leaning this way at all.

3. Unknown predator - most likely in my opinion.

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something has happened to Haleigh - but what?

The fact that the police and FBI have not said lock your doors, button down the hatches, close the chimney flue, and don't let the kids outta yer sight!! - does not mean that there is NOT a predator running around.

To avoid panic the police may not say those very things. At this point no one knows what happened to Haleigh other than Haleigh herself and the person responsible for whatever it is that has actually occurred.

 
Or maybe 4.) Family member meaning no harm to her but taking her for reasons known to them (reason for the possibility of  nebulizer going with her)

Hi Rob Smile

Hi Searching... I kinda thought of that one too... but what would a family member be taking her for between 10pm and 3 am?

I am putting out my feelings out there on this (it is totally an opinion only).  For some odd reason I really feel this is a family related abduction.  Why?  Because if I remember correctly Ron and Chrystal were heading to court shortly after HL's disappearance over unpaid child support.  There are serious problems within that family on ALL sides.  This tit-for-tat has been going on for a long time and those two children were caught in the middle of Daddy, Mommy, Mommy2, gmothers, ggmothers, Mommy2's cast of charaters.  Someone was paid from a member of that family to kidnap her and take her to safety (whatever that is).  The dynamics in this family is not healthy on adults much less small children.  I believe she is alive and someone familiar with her has her and just my opinion I feel Misty knows who that is.   

But Crystal is the one that owes child support. Why would Ron/Misty take either one of the kids and hide them when there was no current challenge to custody and they had full custody of the kids? Why would they only hide one of the children? How could you hide a 5-year-old girl with someone you know without someone saying something to somebody? I want her to be alive and well somewhere too.
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« Reply #1814 on: March 11, 2009, 07:06:49 PM »


Also, haven't they said that several people saw Haleigh up to 5 or 6:00? I think they are mostly connected to Ron's side of the family but I think that there are: A/C repair guy, Misty's brother, 2 of Misty's nephews, gma and ggma (or maybe just ggma?)?

From what I understand, Ron was already gone for work when Haleigh was last seen. This leaves Misty the only known adult with the kids from 6-3 or so. In order for JR not to have seen something happen to Haleigh he would have had to be sleeping - in my opinion. So that leaves a window of 8:30 - 3 or so? That is not very much time to put together the perfect crime, in my opinion. A crime that means Haleigh was harmed, and her body disposed of with NO EVIDENCE. Plus, what motive would Misty have being a caretaker to Haleigh with all of the obvious loving family support? It just doesn't add up.

totally agree... and don't ya'll think the police and FBI know this too?

taking that all into consideration there are only so many possibilities remaining.

1. vaporization or de-materialization - nada. doesn't happen.

2. Misty has conned everyone and is even more diabolical than Casey Anthony. Jury is still out and I'm not leaning this way at all.

3. Unknown predator - most likely in my opinion.

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something has happened to Haleigh - but what?

The fact that the police and FBI have not said lock your doors, button down the hatches, close the chimney flue, and don't let the kids outta yer sight!! - does not mean that there is NOT a predator running around.

To avoid panic the police may not say those very things. At this point no one knows what happened to Haleigh other than Haleigh herself and the person responsible for whatever it is that has actually occurred.

 
Or maybe 4.) Family member meaning no harm to her but taking her for reasons known to them (reason for the possibility of  nebulizer going with her)

Hi Rob Smile

Hi Searching... I kinda thought of that one too... but what would a family member be taking her for between 10pm and 3 am?

I am putting out my feelings out there on this (it is totally an opinion only).  For some odd reason I really feel this is a family related abduction.  Why?  Because if I remember correctly Ron and Chrystal were heading to court shortly after HL's disappearance over unpaid child support.  There are serious problems within that family on ALL sides.  This tit-for-tat has been going on for a long time and those two children were caught in the middle of Daddy, Mommy, Mommy2, gmothers, ggmothers, Mommy2's cast of charaters.  Someone was paid from a member of that family to kidnap her and take her to safety (whatever that is).  The dynamics in this family is not healthy on adults much less small children.  I believe she is alive and someone familiar with her has her and just my opinion I feel Misty knows who that is.   
This wouldn't completely surprise me, and I hope this is true.
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« Reply #1815 on: March 11, 2009, 07:09:57 PM »

It does appear that when travelling Tyler St., that you can make a RT turn...and come down Seven Sisters and then turn LT..onto Chamberlain Rd.

Another way out.



Thanks, GramaMonkey.

I looked up and down Seven Sisters and I cant find Chamberlain. (doink!) Is it on the Hunter Rd end? Or the other end? (Hunter being the one running almost parallel to the tracks on the right of the screen.) TIA. Smile

Just S of Seven Sisters.  It looks as though it doesn't meet up because of the trees, but more than likely there is a road going through there.

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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=202+Green+Ln,+FL+32189&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.059939,77.519531&ie=UTF8&ll=29.576947,-81.674509&spn=0.008584,0.018926&z=16
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« Reply #1816 on: March 11, 2009, 07:13:18 PM »


Also, haven't they said that several people saw Haleigh up to 5 or 6:00? I think they are mostly connected to Ron's side of the family but I think that there are: A/C repair guy, Misty's brother, 2 of Misty's nephews, gma and ggma (or maybe just ggma?)?

From what I understand, Ron was already gone for work when Haleigh was last seen. This leaves Misty the only known adult with the kids from 6-3 or so. In order for JR not to have seen something happen to Haleigh he would have had to be sleeping - in my opinion. So that leaves a window of 8:30 - 3 or so? That is not very much time to put together the perfect crime, in my opinion. A crime that means Haleigh was harmed, and her body disposed of with NO EVIDENCE. Plus, what motive would Misty have being a caretaker to Haleigh with all of the obvious loving family support? It just doesn't add up.

totally agree... and don't ya'll think the police and FBI know this too?

taking that all into consideration there are only so many possibilities remaining.

1. vaporization or de-materialization - nada. doesn't happen.

2. Misty has conned everyone and is even more diabolical than Casey Anthony. Jury is still out and I'm not leaning this way at all.

3. Unknown predator - most likely in my opinion.

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something has happened to Haleigh - but what?

The fact that the police and FBI have not said lock your doors, button down the hatches, close the chimney flue, and don't let the kids outta yer sight!! - does not mean that there is NOT a predator running around.

To avoid panic the police may not say those very things. At this point no one knows what happened to Haleigh other than Haleigh herself and the person responsible for whatever it is that has actually occurred.

 
Or maybe 4.) Family member meaning no harm to her but taking her for reasons known to them (reason for the possibility of  nebulizer going with her)

Hi Rob Smile

Hi Searching... I kinda thought of that one too... but what would a family member be taking her for between 10pm and 3 am?

I am putting out my feelings out there on this (it is totally an opinion only).  For some odd reason I really feel this is a family related abduction.  Why?  Because if I remember correctly Ron and Chrystal were heading to court shortly after HL's disappearance over unpaid child support.  There are serious problems within that family on ALL sides.  This tit-for-tat has been going on for a long time and those two children were caught in the middle of Daddy, Mommy, Mommy2, gmothers, ggmothers, Mommy2's cast of charaters.  Someone was paid from a member of that family to kidnap her and take her to safety (whatever that is).  The dynamics in this family is not healthy on adults much less small children.  I believe she is alive and someone familiar with her has her and just my opinion I feel Misty knows who that is.   

Sorry I can't buy that one.  I don't think that these peoples brain cells are that burnt that  they would jeopardize themselves by getting LE, FBI, etc involved in a missing child case just to avoid paying child support.   JMO!
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« Reply #1817 on: March 11, 2009, 07:13:36 PM »

Good evening monks 

Welcome to the cage starcat.  I missed you when you came in.


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« Reply #1818 on: March 11, 2009, 07:19:54 PM »

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I checked their website but no mention of Haleigh's family.  I was under the impression the donations going to the funeral home were for the Cummings family, but not sure.  The only place I have seen with Crystal's name associated with the funeral home is that bogus website that was up asking for donations.

Seiko, I will call them tomorrow and ask if they know where to send donations for CS's family. I feel so bad for posting bad info. Surely they need some even if they have a place to stay.
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« Reply #1819 on: March 11, 2009, 07:21:13 PM »


Also, haven't they said that several people saw Haleigh up to 5 or 6:00? I think they are mostly connected to Ron's side of the family but I think that there are: A/C repair guy, Misty's brother, 2 of Misty's nephews, gma and ggma (or maybe just ggma?)?

From what I understand, Ron was already gone for work when Haleigh was last seen. This leaves Misty the only known adult with the kids from 6-3 or so. In order for JR not to have seen something happen to Haleigh he would have had to be sleeping - in my opinion. So that leaves a window of 8:30 - 3 or so? That is not very much time to put together the perfect crime, in my opinion. A crime that means Haleigh was harmed, and her body disposed of with NO EVIDENCE. Plus, what motive would Misty have being a caretaker to Haleigh with all of the obvious loving family support? It just doesn't add up.

totally agree... and don't ya'll think the police and FBI know this too?

taking that all into consideration there are only so many possibilities remaining.

1. vaporization or de-materialization - nada. doesn't happen.

2. Misty has conned everyone and is even more diabolical than Casey Anthony. Jury is still out and I'm not leaning this way at all.

3. Unknown predator - most likely in my opinion.

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something has happened to Haleigh - but what?

The fact that the police and FBI have not said lock your doors, button down the hatches, close the chimney flue, and don't let the kids outta yer sight!! - does not mean that there is NOT a predator running around.

To avoid panic the police may not say those very things. At this point no one knows what happened to Haleigh other than Haleigh herself and the person responsible for whatever it is that has actually occurred.

 
Or maybe 4.) Family member meaning no harm to her but taking her for reasons known to them (reason for the possibility of  nebulizer going with her)

Hi Rob Smile

Hi Searching... I kinda thought of that one too... but what would a family member be taking her for between 10pm and 3 am?

I am putting out my feelings out there on this (it is totally an opinion only).  For some odd reason I really feel this is a family related abduction.  Why?  Because if I remember correctly Ron and Chrystal were heading to court shortly after HL's disappearance over unpaid child support.  There are serious problems within that family on ALL sides.  This tit-for-tat has been going on for a long time and those two children were caught in the middle of Daddy, Mommy, Mommy2, gmothers, ggmothers, Mommy2's cast of charaters.  Someone was paid from a member of that family to kidnap her and take her to safety (whatever that is).  The dynamics in this family is not healthy on adults much less small children.  I believe she is alive and someone familiar with her has her and just my opinion I feel Misty knows who that is.   

But Crystal is the one that owes child support. Why would Ron/Misty take either one of the kids and hide them when there was no current challenge to custody and they had full custody of the kids? Why would they only hide one of the children? How could you hide a 5-year-old girl with someone you know without someone saying something to somebody? I want her to be alive and well somewhere too.

First off I DID NOT say Ron/Misty took her. I DID NOT say Chrystal did.  I KNOW Ron is owed the back child support.  AND I Also said it is just my opinion only.  That whole family (on all sides, Mom, Dad, Misty) is really dysfunctional and Misty supposedly made the comment that someone needed to take that baby from it's mother (Ron's supposedly 3rd child).  Misty appears to me (My opinion only) to be immature, childish and I feel she has been playing games with both Mothers over their children.  She is trouble with a capital "T".  Life is very different in small towns.  Everyone knows everyone's business.  Misty was the main caregiver of this little girl and little boy.  My guess is Chrystal was paying child support so Misty could get the money for raising her children.  Don't you think that wouldn't crawl all over Chrystal?  Too many problems within that entire family on all sides for something not to be going on.  Again----JUST MY OPINION.
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