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Foggy Dew
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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March 09, 2009, 01:35:59 AM »
Quote from: Kat_Gram on March 09, 2009, 01:13:52 AM
The dogs going to the train bugs me too. They also went to the water although it could have been an old scent. The time change has affected my brain also.
Kat, yes the water is a
major
concern for me. Its a
very
accessible location via many means of transportation.
The other thing that I've wondered about is did the tracking dogs go to the other side of the river to see if she might have exited a boat on the far side?
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: Foggy Dew on March 09, 2009, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: Brandi on March 09, 2009, 12:47:38 AM
No ring on left or right ring finger here.
As many prob know folks who work w/heavy equipment (and in other occupations) remove their rings when working 'cause they can be a hazard. I don't wear my rings around the homeplace, nor do my friends. Rings are pretty, but troublesome and mostly left in a safe place 'til the work is done.
Of course I have no clue if RC and the teenager have recently married. Maybe they were married before Haleighs disappearance/he wasn't wearing ring because of work. I only mention that because gf referred to Haleigh as her daughter during 911 call. I thought it a bit presumptuous on her part at the time, but who knows.
Foggy
Except he hasn't worked in a month, so why all the sudden put one on now........
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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He didn't refer to Misty as his wife. She was still the gf and a dumb b***** one at that. She said " our daughter " on the tape. Which I found strange, but maybe that's the way Misty felt about the situation.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: islandmonkey on March 09, 2009, 01:36:22 AM
Quote from: Foggy Dew on March 09, 2009, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: Brandi on March 09, 2009, 12:47:38 AM
No ring on left or right ring finger here.
As many prob know folks who work w/heavy equipment (and in other occupations) remove their rings when working 'cause they can be a hazard. I don't wear my rings around the homeplace, nor do my friends. Rings are pretty, but troublesome and mostly left in a safe place 'til the work is done.
Of course I have no clue if RC and the teenager have recently married. Maybe they were married before Haleighs disappearance/he wasn't wearing ring because of work. I only mention that because gf referred to Haleigh as her daughter during 911 call. I thought it a bit presumptuous on her part at the time, but who knows.
Foggy
Except he hasn't worked in a month, so why all the sudden put one on now........
I'm not disagreeing that the couple might have recently married. I'm just pointing out that some (many?) don't wear rings. esp. those who are involved in certain occupations. Some may not be aware of that fact.
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rana
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:30:52 AM
Side note; your vomit look on Misty = preggers.....Just speculation now! ha ha! well it was early morning....
I BLEEVE (TM "Vern" the hotdog guy) I believe the term you are looking for is "vomit
face.
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.
Oh lo... I won't be able to live
that one
down. I deserve that. I was off on a vomit face toot, wasn't I? **snort** Maybe I should learn to have an UNexpressed thought tee hee. (A teacher told me that once.)
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: islandmonkey on March 09, 2009, 01:34:58 AM
Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:26:55 AM
Quote from: Brandi on March 09, 2009, 01:21:42 AM
Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:14:39 AM
Well what is the waiting period for a marriage license in fl, in Md it's atleast 30 days, I think i've been married 17 long yrs so not sure. And if it is illegal they have to have a judge approval from my understanding.
I stated on the last page:
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I looked up waiting period for marriage license in FL ...Putnam County to be exact. It is 3 days. Waived if you take a 4-hour marriage course within the prior 12 months.
For those under 18 ...you have to contact the county for any other restrictions.
Just a FYI.
3 days wow, so it could of been done. but the illegal part throws me a bit. but still I think the Croslin's and Cummings would agree to this and if they know the right judge to approve it, done. Stranger things have been done before. God this would blow CasAnt out of the water with all it's twist and turns if it fits.
I think they mean illegal as under the age of 18, but I could be wrong......also here is a little more info from my longggggggg post above:
In general, those planning on getting married in Florida should be eighteen or older at the time of marriage. However, it is sometimes possible to get married at a younger age. For example, it is possible to get married at sixteen or seventeen if written parental consent is given. It is also possible for people of this age to get married if the bride and groom are parents, or expectant parents, of a child
yup, I only know cuz I had a relative's whole family move there cuz she was 14 yr old & preggers and it was the only state that would allow it(early 90's) married (much older)guy who was not father and still married w/4 children to date but they had to get parental consent and judges ok. But I was sure the law had gotten more strict since than but not sure. I definatly think it could be done. but shows collusion if guilty right? There would be some premeditation, right?
Like I said to Rana I'm thinkin if true Rana's vomit look in Misty's interview = pregnant. Not impossible, but purely speculation.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: Kat_Gram on March 09, 2009, 01:41:48 AM
He didn't refer to Misty as his wife. She was still the gf and a dumb b***** one at that. She said " our daughter " on the tape. Which I found strange, but maybe that's the way Misty felt about the situation.
well as her post to Amber said I got yr man n now I'm gonna get yr baby, I think Misty could be putting herself in a position of more trouble than she knows. I think she's alot smarter than we give her credit for. JMO
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:49:32 AM
Like I said to Rana I'm thinkin if true Rana's vomit look in Misty's interview = pregnant. Not impossible, but purely speculation.
Pregnancy is possible,
FCL,
but on the vomit face theory (oh groan) she didn't look that way the whole time to me -- just like 2 or 3 briefs times like when she spoke of the kitchen as
Wyks
noticed too.... and two other quick times that I can't recall right now.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: rana on March 09, 2009, 01:56:33 AM
Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:49:32 AM
Like I said to Rana I'm thinkin if true Rana's vomit look in Misty's interview = pregnant. Not impossible, but purely speculation.
Pregnancy is possible,
FCL,
but on the vomit face theory (oh groan) she didn't look that way the whole time to me -- just like 2 or 3 briefs times like when she spoke of the kitchen as
Wyks
noticed too.... and two other quick times that I can't recall right now.
watched it a couple times & still never saw it (vomit face) but deferring to u n wykes could = preggers in regards to marriage. purely speculation on my part. lookin at all angles.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 02:03:36 AM
Quote from: rana on March 09, 2009, 01:56:33 AM
Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:49:32 AM
Like I said to Rana I'm thinkin if true Rana's vomit look in Misty's interview = pregnant. Not impossible, but purely speculation.
Pregnancy is possible,
FCL,
but on the vomit face theory (oh groan) she didn't look that way the whole time to me -- just like 2 or 3 briefs times like when she spoke of the kitchen as
Wyks
noticed too.... and two other quick times that I can't recall right now.
watched it a couple times & still never saw it (vomit face) but deferring to u n wykes could = preggers in regards to marriage. purely speculation on my part. lookin at all angles.
Oh she definitely could be pregnant
and
have had a eeeww reaction to whatever it was she was talking about... BOTH! Also, if she were pregnant, that would be a good reason (in theory) to get married.... without outsiders looking for nefarious reasons. If that makes any sense.
IOW, it "looks" good...... I don't know what I'm trying to say.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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I'm going 2 bed good night all! I hope & pray that Haleigh is found safe and is back n the loving arms of her parents.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 02:03:36 AM
Quote from: rana on March 09, 2009, 01:56:33 AM
Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:49:32 AM
Like I said to Rana I'm thinkin if true Rana's vomit look in Misty's interview = pregnant. Not impossible, but purely speculation.
Pregnancy is possible,
FCL,
but on the vomit face theory (oh groan) she didn't look that way the whole time to me -- just like 2 or 3 briefs times like when she spoke of the kitchen as
Wyks
noticed too.... and two other quick times that I can't recall right now.
watched it a couple times & still never saw it (vomit face) but deferring to u n wykes could = preggers in regards to marriage. purely speculation on my part. lookin at all angles.
I wish I knew how to post screen caps (as if you're on pins and needles to see the vomit face.)
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 02:09:03 AM
I'm going 2 bed good night all! I hope & pray that Haleigh is found safe and is back n the loving arms of her parents.
Nighty
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: Wyks on March 09, 2009, 12:11:27 AM
Quote from: islandmonkey on March 08, 2009, 11:49:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uND4ogbsKD4
OMG~Watch this video and tell me that's not a wedding ring on his finger...........I wonder if they got married in Tampa, you know how my mind thinks (spousal privilege)
He has a shiny gold band on his left ring finger, yeppers. Also has one on his right ring finger, for what it's worth. Interesting! And right after showing his tatoos, as he straightens up, he kind of moves his left hand in an odd way, as if showing his ring but not wanting to shove it into the camera. Reminds me a lot of a girl with a new engagement ring, lol, ya know?
IMO the hands look too heavy to be his, but it might be the camera angle.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: Foggy Dew on March 09, 2009, 01:13:09 AM
Quote from: Wyks on March 09, 2009, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: islandmonkey on March 09, 2009, 12:32:38 AM
Quote from: Kat_Gram on March 09, 2009, 12:24:18 AM
Quote from: islandmonkey on March 08, 2009, 11:49:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uND4ogbsKD4
OMG~Watch this video and tell me that's not a wedding ring on his finger...........I wonder if they got married in Tampa, you know how my mind thinks (spousal privilege)
That's a wedding ring. If he married Misty, I will just keep my own thoughts to myself and you all can read my mind. Too bad I don't have webcam. The look on my face is worthy of a transmission !
I'd love to see it !
What freaks me out is IF they did get married, they have spousal privilege and aren't compelled to testify against each other if called to do so
That would be a very sneaky thing to do! Surely they wouldn't!!
Spousal privilege means that a married partner can't be
compelled
to testify against their mate. But it doesn't mean a spouse
can't
testify against a mate. Its a fine distinction that one who is fearful or cowed might not grasp or recognize.
Amen - that is a distinction that many people forget about - my hubby and I just had that discussion regarding another matter.
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Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:19:35 AM
24/17 w/this law you guys say would mean they have to have judge approval, it's not like overnight they have to have consent of all parents right? and than get marriage license, Florida is not Nevada. There are some rules that have to be followed is my understanding?
Florida: If a teen is under eighteen (18) years of age, but older than sixteen (16) years of age, a marriage license can be obtained with parental consent. If a parent has sole custody or the other parent is dead, the permission of one parent is sufficient. If a person is under the age of 16, the marriage license has to be issued by a county judge, with or without parental permission. If a minor's parents are both deceased and there is not an appointed guardian, he/she may apply for a marriage license.
A minor teen who has been previously married may apply for a license. A minor who swears that they have a child or are expecting a baby, can apply for a license if the pregnancy has been verfied by a written statement from a licensed physician. A county court judge may at his/her discretion issue or not issue a license for them to marry.
(
http://marriage.about.com/cs/teenmarriage/a/teenus.htm
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Wonder if Misty is pg?
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: theboyzmom on March 09, 2009, 06:58:26 AM
Quote from: fatcatlurker on March 09, 2009, 01:19:35 AM
24/17 w/this law you guys say would mean they have to have judge approval, it's not like overnight they have to have consent of all parents right? and than get marriage license, Florida is not Nevada. There are some rules that have to be followed is my understanding?
Florida: If a teen is under eighteen (18) years of age, but older than sixteen (16) years of age, a marriage license can be obtained with parental consent. If a parent has sole custody or the other parent is dead, the permission of one parent is sufficient. If a person is under the age of 16, the marriage license has to be issued by a county judge, with or without parental permission. If a minor's parents are both deceased and there is not an appointed guardian, he/she may apply for a marriage license.
A minor teen who has been previously married may apply for a license. A minor who swears that they have a child or are expecting a baby, can apply for a license if the pregnancy has been verfied by a written statement from a licensed physician. A county court judge may at his/her discretion issue or not issue a license for them to marry.
(
http://marriage.about.com/cs/teenmarriage/a/teenus.htm
)
Wonder if Misty is pg?
Weid laws down in Florida, you think?
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: theboyzmom on March 09, 2009, 06:58:26 AM
Wonder if Misty is pg?
Would that make her more or less likely to be involved with Haleigh's disappearance? Would that be any factor at all?
I still can't shake that odd feeling I had after hearing the 911 call. It seemed as if the 911 operator had to drag the information out of Misty. I don't know if that's because Misty didn't
want
to cooperate or
couldn't
cooperate. It just "felt" like she was dragging her feet when it came to revealing anything. Why wouldn't the panic over a missing child have her in a high state of anxiety? She almost sounded like she'd taken a Valium.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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I know that this hasn't been brought up before, and this is just speculation on my part. No one has given any information to back it up either.
But, do you think that maybe Misty felt that Ron was giving too much attention to Haleigh, and she was not in the limelight?? Maybe not spending as much...private... time with her as she would have liked, or shown special attention to her.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #5
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Quote from: oldiebutgoodie on March 09, 2009, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: theboyzmom on March 09, 2009, 06:58:26 AM
Wonder if Misty is pg?
Would that make her more or less likely to be involved with Haleigh's disappearance? Would that be any factor at all?
I still can't shake that odd feeling I had after hearing the 911 call. It seemed as if the 911 operator had to drag the information out of Misty. I don't know if that's because Misty didn't
want
to cooperate or
couldn't
cooperate. It just "felt" like she was dragging her feet when it came to revealing anything. Why wouldn't the panic over a missing child have her in a high state of anxiety? She almost sounded like she'd taken a Valium.
That is what I thought as well. Just a few one liners, nothing elaborating, as Oh well, last night...about ( insert time) we had dinner, and then Haleight did this, or did that...etc.. Nothing, except that she is gone and that is all I know.
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===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
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===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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