Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 - 3/12/09

[hotping]

Hotping - I think that is definitely them.

And they are a project manager type of company is what I gather.

So we can look to see subcontracts awarded by them, IMO.

Here's alittle more that I found on them...

 
 
Harbours and Waterways
Faber Maunsell, as part of the global AECOM group, is independently ranked world number one in marine and port consultancy by Engineering News Record (2006). In responding to the particular demands of the ports and harbours sector, we deliver solutions to port investors, owners, and operators that align with operational and commercial objectives.



Owners of ports and other maritime facilities require a wide range of engineering services to design, construct, operate and maintain their facilities. Faber Maunsell’s team brings a multidisciplinary approach to port, harbour and marine facility developments, applying a mix of planning, specialist engineering, environmental and transportation skills in an appropriate balance for any development. Our clients range from major port operators to private sector clients with waterfront developments.

We understand that elegant design and efficient delivery in a port or harbour environment needs to be simple, flexible and cost effective. Reacting in a timely manner to market trends and opportunities makes the difference between success and failure.

We have built up close working relationships with many of the key stakeholders who influence the successful outcome of port developments giving us an ability to deliver solutions efficiently. We frequently assist clients in their working arrangements with Defra, the Department for Transport, Local and Regional Authorities, the Environment Agency, plus local, national and international conservation agencies. These relationships are supported through our local office network throughout the UK.

Faber Maunsell provides a multi-skilled and comprehensive capability to investigate, assess, design and engineer solutions in the waterway environment, from expertise in the planning and construction of new waterways development, restoration of historic bridges right through to having in house archaeological and ecological survey specialists.

Our teams provide assistance at all stages of the project lifecycle, for example scoping and site investigations for assessment and design purposes, strategic advice for regional development issues and providing the expert support for Planning Applications and reviews.

One of the key challenges in working in the waterway environment is being able to recognise the presence of environmentally sensitive flora and fauna and being able to accommodate them within any design solution.  This is one of the key strengths of Faber Maunsell in having a large number of our own in house ecologists including industry recognised bat surveyors and reptile experts working closely alongside our more traditional civil and structural engineers.

As the demands of global trade continue to accelerate, port and harbour owners turn to us for engineering services.  The firm draws on individuals with diversified technical expertise combined with extensive knowledge of local markets and environments.  The ability to apply world-wide expertise to the solution of local project issues is a hallmark of the successful Faber Maunsell approach to maritime projects.

http://www.fabermaunsell.com/MarketsAndServices/50/27/index.jsp

[Edward]

Edward,
Wanted to thank you again for the information and explanation about Hitler/Dutch/Prince etc.
It was very informative and might be useful at some point.

You are welcome, although that info is just a tidbit of information as I study the peculiar relationship between the German Nazi group and the politics of the Netherlands..
Not only that time in history but how it is relative to today. It includes a wide variety of information leading to Aruba and South America and includes such things as medical research, Drugs and Oil companies.
 How this all relates to Paulus and Joran is still undetermined.
Jorans words in the beginning about Hitler and his lack of conscience and concern about Natalee did perk my interest and did start me off on this research.
I have found out far more then I had ever considered about how deeply the Nazi group had effected the climate of the Netherlands and how relative that is to some of the largest and most powerful companies as well as people in the world today.
 So the bottom line is this.. Without the rest of the grease .. 
Paulus is very well connected and protected and it is why we see Joran protected too.
Nobody is allowed to touch them.. Yet Paulus working from behind the scenes is allowed to push a lawsuit against Oprah and Dr. Phil representing Deepak and he and his associates are able to defend the other defendants in the Mansur Domino case.
Because they are all buddies in a very large group and It is a rigged game Kiddo. 

[Edward]

Just an observation but isn't it a shame with these posters and Arubans who claim to speak so many languages, as many as seven, that English just never seems to be one of them, lol!


 

You must have always wondered WHY online translators Do Not Work with these languages.
There is a reason. This has been done with intention, It is all by design. You can find the answers but you have to work at it. That keeps out 95 percent of the world.
We are the other 5 percent.
jmho

[Tamikosmom]

I don't mean to stack, but this is very important.
Lifesong has done a very good job showing us once more a very troubling aspect that has been taking place.

And I think there was another one where Caps made a very disrespectful remark about Beth, that Janet has posted in one of her documents/posts.

When CAPS attempts to justify Beth's apparent lies to to Julia Renfro in regards to Natalee Holloway being a virgin ... he is subtlely implying that Beth is a liar.

Beth does not lie.  She is on a quest for the truth.  How will lies accomplish that objective.

If Beth states that Natalee was a virgin ... she believes that Natalee was a virgin.  Beth did not have an underlying motive to state what she knew was not true.

I contend that CAPS reeks of the Mark Purcell/Julia Renfro/ATAHA gang

Janet

++++++++

BETH LIES??


CAPS

CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #609 on: April 01, 2008, 03:15:49 AM »

my first question this morning around 9:30 was:

Why would beth lie about her being a virgin and who run with the story was fox news. where did they got the news from? I will answer Julia.

Why why would I lhype up something that was not true and now i need some one to run with it. that can colorabrorate and sustain my lie. My friend. who walk with me. both know it is not the true and that makes it like we say in Logic world,  NOT = NOT and that makes it a logic sense.

it can not be OR and can not be AND OR logic. do not compute.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369749#msg369749


GEROLD DOMPIG

Missing White Female
by Bryan Burrough January 2006

Despite reports to the contrary, Dompig feels certain Natalee didn't meet Joran until her final day on Aruba, Sunday. He confirms that there have been numerous reports that she may have been involved with other young men on the island. "We have taken two statements, from Julia Renfro and a Holiday Inn worker, that Beth told them she had gotten a call from her daughter, and that she was in love with a tall, blue-eyed Dutch teenager. So [Beth] had contact with her daughter. But she denies it. The question is why. If [the Twittys] don't level with us, how can they talk about a conspiracy? We need to know the truth. Joran did not have blue eyes. So who was this boy?" Beth denies making any such statements, or even having talked with Natalee while she was in Aruba.

http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2006/01/natalee200601?currentPage=9


JULIA RENFRO

As missing-teen case cools, Aruba turns against family
By Carol J. Williams
Los Angeles Times

American Julia Renfro, editor-in-chief of Aruba Today, initially sided with Holloway's parents when they sought publicity and lambasted Aruban police for following Dutch investigative procedures different from those in the United States.

Galvanized by compassion for a desperate mother, Renfro stopped the presses of her daily newspaper for the first time in its history to include a picture of Holloway to aid Arubans in the islandwide search.

Renfro, a mother of four, spent weeks shuttling the family from the scene of one rumored development to another, but she became disenchanted with what she saw as Twitty's pandering to tabloid TV and "flat-out lies" she told on the air.

"I feel guilty saying any negative thing about a mother who has lost her daughter," Renfro said. "But her behavior was odd from the get-go."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003741183_aruba09.html


MARK PURCELL

Source: MIP6 on rjames.com forums October 11, 2005, 06:46 AM

I figure with my next post I should get the boot, haven’t decided which one to use yet the Beth lies or denouncing the Sainthood of Natalee. I have way too much fun watching them all freak out.

I contend that CAPS reeks of the Mark Purcell/Julia Renfro/ATAHA gang.

[Tamikosmom]

Bringing this forward as I think it is an important observation.
I always found Cap's post to be of the "Anybody But Joran" nature and found that troubling.  Remember he was having Joran drop Natalee off and then she was returned to poor Joran already deceased at one point which just made me gag.

Anna

that is the Julia Renfro agenda ... ANYBODY BUT JORAN.  Also included in that agenda is the attempt to discredit every word that comes out Beth's mouth.

If Beth claimed she knows her daughter was ganged raped ... then her dauther was ganged raped.  The truth of her words came from the prosecutor's as well as the family attorney's own lips.

Janet

+++++++++


As missing-teen case cools, Aruba turns against family
By Carol J. Williams
Los Angeles Times

Renfro has concluded that the body would have turned up by now if she died on the island proper. She -- and many Arubans -- doubts the three suspects, all good students without criminal records, could have pulled off a perfect crime, never caving in to intense interrogations.

"I've spoken with all of the suspects," she said. "I don't believe any of them did anything to her."

Heavily intoxicated, according to accounts given by her classmates to the FBI, Holloway could have staggered into the sea and drowned after the local men left her, Renfro speculated.

Holloway might have died of alcohol poisoning or a drug overdose and washed out to sea, as Deputy Police Chief Gerold Dompig surmised. She might have climbed aboard one of dozens of catamarans and cabin cruisers for late-night partying after a nearby concert.

Renfro says she was perplexed when Twitty immediately concluded that her daughter had been kidnapped and made no effort to check hospitals or police about accident victims. Within hours, Twitty had concluded van der Sloot was responsible, and within a couple of days she was telling TV interviewers that she knew her daughter had been gang-raped and murdered.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003741183_aruba09.html


NANCY GRACE
Kalpoe Brothers Rearrested
Aired August 26, 2005 - 20:00:00 ET

HELEN LEJUEZ, TWITTY FAMILY ATTORNEY: I don`t think this has to do with a lot of wiretapping. I do believe it has to do with bringing forth the new evidence. It has to do with the case approaching the 60 days and that they are adding new evidence so they can have the case going.

GRACE: OK, what new evidence, Helen?

LEJUEZ: The rape case.

GRACE: OK. You said new evidence. What "new evidence" regarding Natalee Holloway do you think prosecutors have?

LEJUEZ: Right now, they`re talking about a gang rape. So when we talk about a gang rape, we talk about a gang. The gang consisted of three of them. Right?

GRACE: Right.

LEJUEZ: Even though -- even though maybe it`s not out that the other suspect that`s in jail right now will be added to the gang, he is part of the gang.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html


'The Abrams Report' for August 26
updated 11:37 a.m. PT, Mon., Aug. 29, 2005

Statement from the Prosecutor's Office

In the early morning hours of Friday, the 26th of August, 2005, police once more arrested the brothers, Satish Kalpoe and Deepak Kalpoe. They are in custody based on the same suspicions as before. They are suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody.

Aside from these suspicions against the two brothers, there are new suspicions, which at this point the prosecutor is not commenting on. To arrest S.K. and D.K. again, there had to be new facts and circumstances. That is the case.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9118769/

[Tamikosmom]

Has Keepthefaith signed in this morning.

I hope both Keepthefaith and his daughter are on the mend.  It is a very nasty flu not is hitting the Washington Northwest and the Fraser Valley of  British Columbia.  My son and DIL are teachers at their respective public schools in the area and ... the attendance rate in both schools is down.

However ... the good news is that the bug leaves as quickly as it comes.  Normally within a couple of days.

Jen ... how are you feeling now?  You had quit of bout too.

Janet

[jen3560]

Has Keepthefaith signed in this morning.

I hope both Keepthefaith and his daughter are on the mend.  It is a very nasty flu not is hitting the Washington Northwest and the Fraser Valley of  British Columbia.  My son and DIL are teachers at their respective public schools in the area and ... the attendance rate in both schools is down.

However ... the good news is that the bug leaves as quickly as it comes.  Normally within a couple of days.

Jen ... how are you feeling now?  You had quit of bout too.

Janet

I haven't seen KTF today - I hope he recovers soon.

I felt crappy for about 6 days, finally was back at 100% yesterday.

[Tamikosmom]

Question, I believe someone on that ship was posing as Caps and making all those post here to keep the blogs away from any news of what was happening.  Kyle fed just enough info to us to pacify us and I would not be surprised if Caps was Kyle or Eduardo was Caps and Kyle posting sometimes in that perfect American voice.  They removed Tim and Dave and sent them on wild goose chases and I almost feel like Caps was on that boat and working with someone on board to mislead the blogs-kinda like AHATA has always done from the beginning. 

JMO

Blue Moon ... I think it is very possible that Eduardo and CAPS are one.

Kyle Kingman had his suspicions regarding Eduardo being the leak.  Then when you consider that CAPS did a solo dive on the trap and ... then you consider Eduardo's diving abilities ...

Janet

+++++++

JOSSY MANSUR

Jossy Mansur:  No, my son was not on the dive team, but he was on board the ship every day. What he told me is that the cage is of an industrial type and not similar to the one that went missing the same morning Natalee disappeared. The ship did map a vast area and was able to pinpoint close to 100 items of interest on the bottom of the ocean along the coast. Just when they were about to examine them, they ran out of money because it is an expensive venture.


CapsLockWizard
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #780 11/26/08 -
« Reply #931 on: December 03, 2008, 04:19:56 AM »

Another thing , I went to dive a week a go to the same location, and the Cage is still there. If the cage was evidance in a murder case, why is it still in the water.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.msg564838;topicseen#msg564838


Tuscaloosa News
Aruba group seeking divers to search for Natalee Holloway
August 24, 2005

An Aruba group is seeking divers to continue the search for Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teenager who went missing nearly three months ago on the Dutch Caribbean island.

The group wants to lead the divers in exploring waters off Aruba’s east coast, where Holloway was staying with 124 Mountain Brook High School classmates, said Eduardo Mansur, co-founder of the Aruba Search and Rescue Foundation, which has been helping search for the teenager since she vanished May 30.

Although the waters have been searched before, the group wants to try again with the help of a machine invented by an American who claims it can detect human bones and teeth under water, Mansur said. The inventor, Joe Walker, came to Aruba to help in the search, Mansur said.

“We have been working very hard on the case from the beginning,” Mansur said. “We are following all leads.”

Mansur said he and Walker are recruiting local divers. He said they will start when enough divers volunteer.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/08/24/aruba-group-seeking-divers-to-search-for-missing-us-teen/


++++++++

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman:  We're close to finding the Dirty Hand and a major leak plaguing the investigation. I believe they're linked. I'm assuming Caps isn't deep inside ALE, but do we know that he isn't? We need to figure out who Cap's source is and what he does. Can we confirm Destiny's source is a Dairio reporter? If so, do we know who this would be? Could it be Eduardo Mansur???

Kyle Kingman:  For Jan 7th, Eduardo wasn't on the boat, neither were any media, Tim Miller, or Tim Trahan

[Tamikosmom]

johan555
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
« Reply #430 on: January 05, 2009, 06:15:21 PM »

STRATEGIC TASK FORCE

Mr. Olindo Koolman (Senior Advisor)
Mr. Jaap Beaujon (Advisor)
Mr. Serge Mansur (ATIA)
Mr. Greg Peterson (ATIA)
Mr. Jorge Pesquera (AHATA)
Mr. Jeff Lesker (AHATA)
Mr. Alfonso Riveroll (AHATA)
Ms. Myrna Jansen (ATA)
Mr. Rob Smith (Aruba Hospitality & Security Foundation)
Mr. Bill Carson (Banking Sector/AHATA)
Mr. Edwin Roos (Chamber of Commerce)
Mr. Ruben Trappenberg (Aruba Government)
Mr. Eric Brete (Aruba Government)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg613102#msg613102


Keepthefaith
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
« Reply #434 on: January 05, 2009, 06:23:40 PM »

The Mansur family!

Serge Mansur/Strategic task force
Eduardo Mansur/Search and Rescue
Jossy Mansur/Diario

Is it just me or is there a problem with this?Throw a Banana at me monkey's if i'm crazy....

 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.420

[Tamikosmom]

Back to my own little hidey hole.

 

Later, Janet
1:50 PM PT

[Tamikosmom]

Jen/Kermit

Wingnut or Sharon have not been on the SM Natalee Holloway forum for quite a while.  Do you communicate with them.  If so ... please tell them that they are missed.

Thanks

Janet

[nimrod]

Natalee was kidnapped, raped, murdered, disposed of and Aruba covered it up long before the Persistence came on the scene. With all the people involved in the Pesistence's search, it is a real stretch to think (or prove) that the Persistence was now involved in Aruba's cover up. IMO. I believe Tim Miller realizes now that he was mistaken in his original belief and has moved on with his life's work. That leaves only Kyle's words about what he thinks happened. His words, are not near enough proof  of anything for me.

[klaasend]

Natalee was kidnapped, raped, murdered, disposed of and Aruba covered it up long before the Persistence came on the scene. With all the people involved in the Pesistence's search, it is a real stretch to think (or prove) that the Persistence was now involved in Aruba's cover up. IMO. I believe Tim Miller realizes now that he was mistaken in his original belief and has moved on with his life's work. That leaves only Kyle's words about what he thinks happened. His words, are not near enough proof  of anything for me.

You think you know what Tim Miller realizes now......really?  Personally I would never attempt to speak for Tim Miller.

I don't think anyone is saying the entire Pesistence crew was in on a conspiracy, only that the real reason for the search may not have been Natalee.  Why is that so hard for people to consider?

[Anna]

The search by the Persistence was not conducted at random but rather based on specific information?  Information to which we have never been privy.  There was a reason to look where they did.

For that reason I will continue to be most unhappy that they then allowed Aruban ALE, the authors of the cover up, exclusive access to the proceeds of the search.

No way I can justify that action based on history of this investigation.

JMO

[klaasend]

Speaking of.......


http://www.citvasia.com/detailssynopsis.aspx?libId=336&sId=168&sTime=1200

[nimrod]

Natalee was kidnapped, raped, murdered, disposed of and Aruba covered it up long before the Persistence came on the scene. With all the people involved in the Pesistence's search, it is a real stretch to think (or prove) that the Persistence was now involved in Aruba's cover up. IMO. I believe Tim Miller realizes now that he was mistaken in his original belief and has moved on with his life's work. That leaves only Kyle's words about what he thinks happened. His words, are not near enough proof  of anything for me.

You think you know what Tim Miller realizes now......really?  Personally I would never attempt to speak for Tim Miller.

I don't think anyone is saying the entire Pesistence crew was in on a conspiracy, only that the real reason for the search may not have been Natalee.  Why is that so hard for people to consider?

Klass, the reason I said that is because I don't think Tim would ever give up in his beliefs on something so important and because I understand that Tim is still connected with Silvetti. I'm sorry you took offense to that. Also, in my business career I donated a lot of free time and services for charitable organiztions, but you can bet that I always had my eyes open for other business opportunities while doing that work. Why is that so hard for people to consider?

[Blue Moon]

Speaking of.......


http://www.citvasia.com/detailssynopsis.aspx?libId=336&sId=168&sTime=1200

Is this saying that a series is being shown soon?  Bill Curtis (as in the A&E Network)?  I guess the footage was finally sold and probably fetch a good price.

[texasmom]

Yes, Caps posted that Beth lied, Natalee was not a virgin and Julia ran with that lie.  And not one peep out of his supporters. 
I always thought the Cardinal Rule in Natalee Holloway thread was no bashing of the victim or her family but he surely did.

AFAIK, that discussion took place in the Shango/Simian thread where a lot of things were discussed.  I never for one second and still don't believe that Beth lied about anything.  To assume that just because I or anyone else for that matter didn't post something about it, agreed with it; is wrong in my opinion.  A lot of questions and different scenarios were discussed there that I didn't believe or agree with, that didn't mean that others didn't have the right to ask the questions or discuss the scenarios.  To this day, I don't always make a post when I don't agree with something. 

Whoever Caps is/was, through my communications with him on or off the forum; he knew that I did not believe that either of Natalee's parents were involved in her disappearance, or would have misrepresented the facts about Natalee.

[Lifesong]

Natalee was kidnapped, raped, murdered, disposed of and Aruba covered it up long before the Persistence came on the scene. With all the people involved in the Pesistence's search, it is a real stretch to think (or prove) that the Persistence was now involved in Aruba's cover up. IMO. I believe Tim Miller realizes now that he was mistaken in his original belief and has moved on with his life's work. That leaves only Kyle's words about what he thinks happened. His words, are not near enough proof  of anything for me.

You think you know what Tim Miller realizes now......really?  Personally I would never attempt to speak for Tim Miller.

I don't think anyone is saying the entire Pesistence crew was in on a conspiracy, only that the real reason for the search may not have been Natalee.  Why is that so hard for people to consider?

Klass, the reason I said that is because I don't think Tim would ever give up in his beliefs on something so important and because I understand that Tim is still connected with Silvetti. I'm sorry you took offense to that. Also, in my business career I donated a lot of free time and services for charitable organiztions, but you can bet that I always had my eyes open for other business opportunities while doing that work. Why is that so hard for people to consider?

It's the pictures for me.  It wasn't just fabric.  It wasn't just rocks.  Iirc, we've heard from more than just Kyle that per the FBI there were human remains, Tim Miller said it too.

[Lifesong]

Speaking of Caps...I've been back in the Jan/Feb 2008 threads.  On 01/31/08 the news broke of the upcoming Peter DeVries expose.  You'll recall that DeVries put out a statement that he had solved the case...  Fascinating day on the thread, especially where Caps is concerned.


01/31/2008 – NEW
Suddenly, there is Breaking News:

09:56:08 AM:  SM poster Starr:   “Anyone watching FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????  I am in my office but hearing There is a report on Aruba and Mos”. 

09:58:18 AM:  SM poster Stella: “It's on MSNBC too.  "New evidence coming out of Holland".  No one saying what it is...Stay tuned.”

09:58:43 AM: SM poster Helen Back: “ …Just heard a FOX news alert that Peter DeVries has new information coming out of Holland. Chief Prosecutor on Aruba  says they are intensifying the investigation.  New information may help solve the mystery of Natalee Holloway's' disappearance.”

10:11:22 AM:  SM poster Buckshot:
“ FROM GRETA BLOG  JUST IN: UPDATE ON NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE IN ARUBA
by Greta Van Susteren;  I just got this email from OTR Producer Jeff Miller…..
From: “Miller, Jeffrey”
Date: January 31, 2008 10:43:29 AM EST
To: Greta Van Susteren
Subject: RE:
….Also…just got this press release…
New evidence in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
The Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba has intensified its investigation of the case of Natalee Holloway due to recently received information. This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared. The Public Prosecutor has lately received this information from the Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries. This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee’s disappearance.
In cooperation with the Aruban Police Corps, the Office is currently investigating the reliability and value of this new information. It will be evaluated in relation to the results of the preceding profound research activities. The Aruban Police Corps has continued the investigation of the case despite the formal discontinuation of the prosecution of the suspects of the day, in December 2007. Commissioned
investigators are currently charged with further inquiries. In the interest of the ongoing investigation no further information will be circulated. Nota bene: the Office of Public Prosecutor will not give any interviews
about the matter at hand at this moment, not by telephone, neither on camera.” 

As news spreads, SM posters flock to message board.  All are hopeful that Justice for Natalee may finally be near, with a few cautioning the excitement until the facts are in. 

Then…CapsLockWizard appears:
01:07:03 PM:  “Good morning Monkeys Well, Well ....Who broke the code.????”

And he’s not too happy about Peter DeVries:
01:15:46 PM:  “The problem with all this is.....I said: I did not want to discuss it in public.    Soldiers will wakeup  This is to defend them self.   in 2005 notting, 2006 notting, 2007 notting, 2008 we start unravel the fabric and he is taken the credits.  wel wel...  But it is not over without the complete codes... Rebember I said the wall have ears and eyes.  Sleeping soldiers are awake now.”

01:18:50 PM:  “all the elements of Surprise are gone...CNN should have been the first.  anyhow back to work.”

01:39:04 PM:  “Remember this is also a way to say we did not know everything..Remember there is a Dirtyhand and there is A Dirty FBI and there is a Dirty Court House... Dirty P.M. and there is a whole lot of dirt that has to be wipe clean....  How are you going to battle this... with out revealing the Dirty hands????  it not over till .........???? to be continue...

01:40:02 PM:  “So Where is the Body....”

02:07:41 PM:  “No No No.. This is another smoke screen to see who the players in the investigation  Be carefull  The body is the key turn the whole  thing over.  No "BODY NO CASE"
Beth come get Natalee and then start the fight”

02:15:14 PM:  “How is it that dave is in New York and Now in Holland  How is Beth in Alabama and Now In Holland  not ever 24 hrs past  another time PARADOX”

02:24:37 PM:  “Look at the dates in this picture: It Say that the case was resolved on February 3, xxxx but no year  how is this possible”

02:30:02 PM:  "it says that the case will be resolve on that day...Where is the Crystal Ball....  Magi Magic...So you must know everything allready. to setup a long broadcast.  Now why in Holland His home town and not in international water.. Where is the High Court  reside  This is to protect go House of Babylon?”

Caps isn’t having much luck, so he comes back later with a lie:
08:42:21 PM:  “Hi monkeys, I am back I just saw What Pieter is going to show on Feb3th, He is saying that it was an mistake...and I thinkhe is going to try to justify a motive... but as we all now the codes are saying something else.  He is going to talk about probablythe MIU error.Or the Dopple Ganager."

10:56:51 PM:  “Monkeys watch this now....Sunday is the big carnival in Aruba so everyone is at the carnival  PIETER is at the TV show the world the carp story  and while everyone is dancing and watching the story unfold,  They will try to Remove the Body out of the Water.  Somebody must have tell to wake them up The Best is that Dave comes Down and get the Body before sunday Feb 3 otherwise every work is lost foreever!”

12:14:58 AM:  “Monkeys look what he is saying....HE accept / recognise some of the guild but to prosecute, you need the BODY.....The Key It movie played in Aruba allready, where is the evidence... No BODY to Link the cupability to, No Case...only diffrent lingo this time.”

01:30:53 AM:  “Monkeys:  We have another Time Paradox  What is more important for an Reporter? The sensational of a breaking News.  Now this sensational happend in 2005 with his hidden camera he put.....so he was there... now the word "put" means you must know in advanced where to put to take the best shots? Still with me Monkeys  in 2005 the whole world was looking for Natalee, AND Pieter had the pictures already.  Now here is the PARADOX. Sensational Case with no picture? no Evidence  Now in 2008 after t.5 years of sacrificed Pieter comes out and say now that this is the new sensational with some picture that he took in 2005  How can that be for a Reporter..  He must study a bit about TIME PARADOX  IT TIME TRAVEL IS POSSIBLE WHAT HAPPENS IF JORAN GO BACK IN TIME AND KILL HIS MOTHER BEFORE HE WAS BORN.  In a Logic World things works in order A session event in 2005 but no picture but taken with hidden cameras  (in Login Term an event in 2005 "AND" no Picture) for the Sensational CASE  A Sensation event in 2008 but this time with the pictures  (in Logic Term and event of 2005 "AND" with Pictures) for the same CASE  We have a Paradox (a Lie )  Do not fool Wizard”


Edit to correct the date from 12/31/07 to 01/31/08

Sorry guys - I got it stuck in the wrong spot on the timelne - it was on Jan 31st, not Dec 31st.