Natalee Case Discussion #807 3/12/09 - 3/17/09am

[Tamikosmom]

Interesting article...

http://www.bloomu.edu/media/magazine/Bloomsburg_Winter09.pdf

Page 20



Whether searching deep waters for a vanished 18-year-old, enriching the lives of some big
cats or promoting a Class AAA baseball team, internships and cooperative assignments often take Bloomsburg University students into the realm of the unexpected. Students Jacob Lex, Erin Loughlin and Travis Behler recently participated in experiential assignments that allowed them to handle unique job responsibilities.

Jacob Lex

Jacob Lex, a junior electronics engineering technology major, found himself involved in a high-profile missing person case as part of his co-op with Alternative Positioning Solutions (APS) of Lafayette, La. The company, owned by Lex’s uncle, is a navigation, positioning
and sonar services firm with responsibility for the Gulf of Mexico and all territorial U.S. waters. 

During his eight months on-site, Lex worked in Aruba searching unsuccessfully for the remains of Natalee Holloway, an Alabama teenager who disappeared in May 2005. The crew aboard the R/V Persistence—APS’s flagship boat—worked 18-hour days making sonar runs to identify all of the materials that don’t naturally appear on the seafloor, including possible human skeletal remains and pieces of clothing.  Lex was responsible for running the ship’s computer equipment. Despite long hours and intense effort, the search came up empty. 

When the work in Aruba was complete, Lex’s next assignment centered on mapping the seafloor in the Gulf of Mexico. The days and weeks were long, he says, but he bonded with other members of the crew. 

“Nothing is predictable when you’re out at sea, but coming together to fix things or find solutions made us closer.” Lex says. “It’s like a brotherhood.”

Following the completion of his co-op, APS offered Lex a future position as a geophysicist, which would require additional schooling beyond his Bloomsburg degree.

“I always work hard in whatever I do, but I really took advantage of my time with APS,” Lex says. “I liked the work and learned as much as I could as quickly as I could. I think this experience will pay off.”

Thanks texasmom.

Who is Jacob Lex?

Good Morning All!!

Janet

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The Search for Natalee Holloway
Monday, November 26, 2007

I. Mobilization

Key Personnel:
 
Louis Shaffer - Project Lead and Key Contributor - Responsible for financial support, planning, public relations, and press coordination.
 
Tim Miller - Texas Equusearch http://www.texasequusearch.org/ - Project Management, gathering support, missing persons specialist

Tim Trahan - Underwater Expeditions - Project Management

John Silvetti - Project Lead and Key Contributor- Responsible for overall project planning and development. Owner of Marine Surveys, LLC . Donated the R/V Persistence for the search effort.
http://silvettigroup.com/

Marc Broussard - Project Manager - Responsible for logistics, personnel, and planning.

Kent Bourg- Party Chief - Responsible for the R/V Persistence operations and safety. Kent will also operate the side scan sonar.

Kyle Kingman - Field Project Manager, Geophysical Engineer and Marine Geologist - Responsible for side scan sonar acquisition, digital processing, analysis, and target identification. Kyle will assist in side scan sonar operation and guide the ROV (remotely operated vehicle) team to each sonar target.

Dr. Rob Floyd - Marine Geologist /Archaeologist - Responsible for analog sonar data interpretation and analysis and quality control.
Anthony Fontenot - Acoustic Positioning Technician - Responsible for navigation, acoustic tracking, and positioning of the side scan sonar and ROV.

Posted by Kyle Kingman

http://jlbworld.com/files/chapter23/sitedevotedtoseasearch.htm
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/11/mobilization.html

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_53927.php

Aruba

Polynesia finally shipping

March 14, 2009, 14:25 (GMT -04:00)


ORANGE CITY - After more than a year in the port of Oranjestad to have located the ship departed Polynesia, allegedly destined for Portugal. The luxury cruise ship would sail after a public auction a new owner received. The Polynesia stranded in Aruba last year after the then owner was in financial difficulties. The surviving crew was thirty-headed after a while no fuel, food and drink to purchase. Eventually, the Red Cross to come out for water and food to the crew in advance. Later could, given the pain and effort and without a penny in his pocket, still home.

http://bondia.com/

[klaasend]

Jacob Lex is LegallyLex's son and was on the Persistence:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=145480547


This is Jacob with the ripped pants.  He has a whole series of photos in Aruba:

[Tamikosmom]

Thank you Klaas.

Have a good Sunday all.

Janet
8:10 AM PT

[Blue Moon]

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68861

Between this and the Columbians vacationing there this is NOW a place that REALLY needs to be avoided.
The police is shaking down hotel owners if they don't use them.  They are allowing tourists to be robbed by hotels own employees.  They keep getting lower and lower.

AVOID ARUBA LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT[/size][/size][/color]

[texasmom]

Good morning Janet!

Sorry, I was busy doing other things and didn't see your question!   

JMO but I think the truth was stretched a little for that article.   

Have a great Sunday!   

[texasmom]

Jacob Lex is LegallyLex's son and was on the Persistence:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=145480547


This is Jacob with the ripped pants.  He has a whole series of photos in Aruba:

Thanks Klaas!   

[2NJSons_Mom]

Good morning, everyone.

Looking again at that picture.....Left pant leg looks wet to above the knee.  Right pant leg obviously torn or cut from waist to ankle.  If right pocket was gripped or caught on something, it would have most likely pulled off but not including up to the waist and down the pant leg.  Maybe it was caught on equipment on deck....Maybe it was just some horseplay....maybe not.  Don't know if its anything....just thinking.

[nonesuche]

Happy Sunday all.....

Sure appears I missed a lot last night, I have to work today so not sure I can read through all but will try. One question I have is why on earth would anyone 'trust' this CAPS character without verified proof of who and what he/she was? Was there ever any real and vivid verification of any kind?

TIA !

fyi, I am not an analyst  if you've seen the movie the Office then you'd know the true definition of a business analyst 

[klaasend]

Good morning, everyone.

Looking again at that picture.....Left pant leg looks wet to above the knee.  Right pant leg obviously torn or cut from waist to ankle.  If right pocket was gripped or caught on something, it would have most likely pulled off but not including up to the waist and down the pant leg.  Maybe it was caught on equipment on deck....Maybe it was just some horseplay....maybe not.  Don't know if its anything....just thinking.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Texasmom,

Nice find with that Jake pdf.  Eight months experiential......shows how easy it can be for some with connections to use these ventures to their benefit while pursuing further education.

[Magnolia]

Good morning, everyone.

Looking again at that picture.....Left pant leg looks wet to above the knee.  Right pant leg obviously torn or cut from waist to ankle.  If right pocket was gripped or caught on something, it would have most likely pulled off but not including up to the waist and down the pant leg.  Maybe it was caught on equipment on deck....Maybe it was just some horseplay....maybe not.  Don't know if its anything....just thinking.

It looks like a fresh bruise from just below his undershorts to nearly the back of his knee.
Maybe he got hurt somehow.
Isn't Jacob the nephew of John Silvetti?

[texasmom]

Texasmom,

Nice find with that Jake pdf.  Eight months experiential......shows how easy it can be for some with connections to use these ventures to their benefit while pursuing further education.

Thanks, and yes I thought so too.

[texasmom]

Good morning, everyone.

Looking again at that picture.....Left pant leg looks wet to above the knee.  Right pant leg obviously torn or cut from waist to ankle.  If right pocket was gripped or caught on something, it would have most likely pulled off but not including up to the waist and down the pant leg.  Maybe it was caught on equipment on deck....Maybe it was just some horseplay....maybe not.  Don't know if its anything....just thinking.

It looks like a fresh bruise from just below his undershorts to nearly the back of his knee.
Maybe he got hurt somehow.
Isn't Jacob the nephew of John Silvetti?

Yes he is.

[crazybabyborg]

Happy Sunday, Monkeys!

Just my 2 cents on the ripped pants; That's a weird tear to be wholly accidental, IMO.

It's an even tear all the way down through the hem at the bottom, and a denim hem is pretty tough.

It almost looks like the pocket was ripped off and maybe tore the fabric underneath, so somebody just started pulling.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Happy Sunday, Monkeys!

Just my 2 cents on the ripped pants; That's a weird tear to be wholly accidental, IMO.

It's an even tear all the way down through the hem at the bottom, and a denim hem is pretty tough.

It almost looks like the pocket was ripped off and maybe tore the fabric underneath, so somebody just started pulling.

That was my initial thought, CBB, regarding the even cut/tear from the waist.  I just threw thoughts out there, just in case someone had another viewpoint.  If the pants had been caught up on equipment, I would think he could have removed the pants, with or without assistance.

Happy Sunday to you, too.

[texasmom]

Follow up to the story Klaas posted last night.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/7652/8/

(video also at website)

as cu the informe owing to enter cu apparently will have to have 2 person perdi imediatamente owing to cuminsa mobilisa all the departamento concerni for present at sitio for so cuminsa juda in the buskeda. as everybody know cu 24ora.com tawata esun cu owing to anuncia the news here first cu imagen y informacion completo. locual cu owing to happen is cu one person cu wanted owing to aborda the boat of tattoo but for motibo cu past owing to jega late owing to place cu the boat of tattoo owing to leave bay lage y at dado instant the caballero here wanted owing to make his cos. the caballero here conhuntamente cu two another person owing to abordo one boat cu do not of they y cu intention for transporta the person abordo of the boat tattoo. locual cu is sina stranjo is cu the personanan here not owing to neither check if the boat have fuelden dje, locual cu they owing to make is jega start the boat y cuminsa nabega. click read more for sigi read. at dado instant hour cu the fuel cu tawata in slang owing to cabae engine owing to shutdown y owing to place cu the boat owing to cuminsa drief bay for sea big. esnan at canto owing to ripara cu algo stranjo tawata sosode abordo hour cu they look at cu one of the personan abordo owing to float come canto y after one security of vision security owing to fly in water after lever in the boat bek y after of one rato after owing to go back fly in water y not owing to come upstairs bek. first cu owing to mobilisa all instancia owing to try of jama the compania of security pawak if the person akilo can owing to float come cantoofsi they have cualkier informacion of one of they personal but without none exito.e instant ey owing to cuminsa mobilisa all instancia for cuminsa juda dene buskeda.algun minuut after of 12am owing to succeed hanja contacto cu the donjo division security for so the give one description of his employee. at instant cu the instancianan cu tawata judando in the buskedaa cuminsa prepara for call off, one of the boat of tattooa cuminsa senala cu they have to owing to encontra one person. hour cu they owing to jega canto enberdad they owing to come encontra the boy cu tawata perdi cu is labora cu vision security. according the boy here his version is cu the instant cu past owing to fly water y for lever upstairs one of the botonan in vecindario,e will have to owing to strike his cabes y bay off. stranjo is cu police owing to controla all the barconan here in vecindario y not owing to encontra nothing,pero at the ultimo trip of mini boot of tattoo the person here owing to succeed come bey y owing to cuminsa ask help. the version of the sir here his storia do not convincing,pero assure cu we have cu gradici god cu the is sano y salvo.un thanks is bay for all the instancianan cu owing to juda during the buskeda here.

Pictures here at Awe24:

http://www.awe24.com/_moblog/externalInterface/extFrame.php?id=248&offId=0

Papiamentu translation:

owing to beat alarma for person perdi on lama fast riu hotel

fecha: 15/03/2009 | horario: 03:32

of saturday night owing to beat alarma hour cu one speedboat diminutive cu was have 2 person abordo his gasolene owing to end y the manehador owing to fly water swim come ground for avisa cu the security guard cu was cune in the boat owing to stay in the boat while the coriente of lama was strong y owing to take away they afo. more late owing to come achieve the speedboat but not was have none person abordo. at once owing to avisa search & rescue, police maritimo, keep we costa on ground y also the helicopter. owing to busca very much but without result, is till hour cu was trece the pasaheronan bek at the pier the shuttleboat owing to hear a is bark y hour owing to see good owing to mire teni at one cabuya of one boat in cercania. they owing to bay dibiaha in his direccion y owing to rescate trece at the pier. come across

[oldiebutgoodie]

Good morning, everyone.

Looking again at that picture.....Left pant leg looks wet to above the knee.  Right pant leg obviously torn or cut from waist to ankle.  If right pocket was gripped or caught on something, it would have most likely pulled off but not including up to the waist and down the pant leg.  Maybe it was caught on equipment on deck....Maybe it was just some horseplay....maybe not.  Don't know if its anything....just thinking.

It looks like a fresh bruise from just below his undershorts to nearly the back of his knee.
Maybe he got hurt somehow.
Isn't Jacob the nephew of John Silvetti?

Yes he is.

Just more random speculation here but the same discoloration at the top of the leg can be seen to a lesser degree on the right side of the right ankle. I recognize the reddishness as under-the-skin-surface infection. I see it in my own legs from time to time because I suffer from severe edema brought on by my congestive heart failure which is, in turn, caused/made worse by my severe sleep apnea.

Not declaring definitely that's infection in that young man's leg, only that it's a possibility.

Also, when it is very bad in my leg and sometimes my legs leak water and that makes things much worse, it helps to NOT have a long pant leg on, especially sweats as they seem to make things even worse than they already are. Wearing shorts and keeping my leg "naked" truly helps the healing process.

So, if that is a painful infection or other skin condition we are seeing in that photo, the pants may have been deliberately sliced open so as to expose the leg to air and aid in making it heal faster and feel more comfortable.

A deliberately split open pant leg explains why is that guy walking around like that with a ripped pant leg. If it had been torn open by accident, he would have simply changed his pants. It seems he wants the leg to be exposed to the air.

[crazybabyborg]

Happy Sunday, Monkeys!

Just my 2 cents on the ripped pants; That's a weird tear to be wholly accidental, IMO.

It's an even tear all the way down through the hem at the bottom, and a denim hem is pretty tough.

It almost looks like the pocket was ripped off and maybe tore the fabric underneath, so somebody just started pulling.

That was my initial thought, CBB, regarding the even cut/tear from the waist.  I just threw thoughts out there, just in case someone had another viewpoint.  If the pants had been caught up on equipment, I would think he could have removed the pants, with or without assistance.

Happy Sunday to you, too.

 

Nut, San, Klaas, I hope you guys won't mind me posting a little help for posters who followed Natalee's case when it was in the news, and are still interested but get intimidated by the vast knowledge that has been so well collected by the regular posters on this thread. There have been numerous requests for help in Musings, and SM posters do come here to read but are reluctant to ask basic questions. As I read back this morning, it struck me that there is an overview on one page that would serve that purpose pretty well. It's not so much to be overwhelming, but a nice nutshell, IMO.

For all the posters who have wished for a synopsis of the Natalee Holloway Case and where it stands now, I think that a visit to the current thread (thread #807), page #16, just might give you what you've been looking for.

Please be sure to read to Tamikosmom's reply #308 and follow the link posted within it.

Thanks!

[oldiebutgoodie]

SECURITY WARNING TO EVERYBODY!!!

I was just checking out various websites related to Natalee Holloway and came across this one:  arubanboycott.blogspot.com and it contains a page that downloads trojans to your computer, steals passwords, and does various other vicious nasty things. I don't think the first page does it but it is one of the other pages of this blog that has all the malicious code.

My Internet Security software went crazy and refused to let that malicious page be opened by my browser (Internet Explorer).

So a blog about boycotting Aruba should be on the side of the good guys, right? So why are they trying to wreck peoples' computers and steal all their personal information?

What if it's really one of the bad guys masquerading as a good guy?

Even if this particular blog turns out to be okay and my internet security software is simply paranoid, it is still a very real possibility that the "bad guys" could set up a seemingly pro-Natalee page just for the purpose of stealing info from your computers and/or wrecking them. So make sure all your virus/security software is up to date and scan your computers from time to time and don't automatically trust websites that look like they are good guys. Be cautious.