Natalee Case Discussion #807 3/12/09 - 3/17/09am

[klaasend]

I've got the passport saved someplace, looking for it now.  While looking for it I found this 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Passport

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2819.460



I figured out this one by changing the end of the link:

[klaasend]

Good, I can stop looking, lol 

Thanks 2NJ 

[hotping]

Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 - 5/8/08

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*******:
Quote from: Destiny on May 05, 2008, 09:49:39 PM

Quote from: Destiny on May 05, 2008, 09:30:54 PM

*******...check ur email


Thanks for the reply *******....since you know who I'll be talking with regarding our ad tomorrow....what should I reply to this latest email...as I said I was bored...so I clipped and pasted only the passport part and shot it over with a comment....*this was just found...won't last long*....now I don't know what to replay...it did seem to get some interest....help Mr. Wizard.....


Hello Destiny! You tell her what ever your heart desires..lol.. I dont see anything wrong with sending her whatever. It's may be best to be on her good side 

Destiny:
Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 05, 2008, 09:51:55 PM

I have a question about Joran's passport...since I am so old and dumb I will need an answer rather quickly before I forget why I asked...but according to that passport it does indicate that Joran was in Thailand, right?  So does that make that photo of him in Thailand more plausible or not?


 

I want to know too...as I was asked by Diario if I had a photo of him there...but never sent the one we have, due to not being sure if it was/is authentic.....old feeble minds want to know....

*******:
Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 05, 2008, 09:51:55 PM

I have a question about Joran's passport...since I am so old and dumb I will need an answer rather quickly before I forget why I asked...but according to that passport it does indicate that Joran was in Thailand, right?  So does that make that photo of him in Thailand more plausible or not?


Yes It most certainly does..IMO..Although almost everything can be faked online I think its very possible he was in Thailand.

Destiny:
Quote from: ******* on May 05, 2008, 09:57:18 PM

Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 05, 2008, 09:51:55 PM

I have a question about Joran's passport...since I am so old and dumb I will need an answer rather quickly before I forget why I asked...but according to that passport it does indicate that Joran was in Thailand, right?  So does that make that photo of him in Thailand more plausible or not?


Yes It most certainly does..IMO..Although almost everything can be faked online I think its very possible he was in Thailand.


Ahh...but...do the dates add up....to...old...to....remember.....gasp.......

caesu:
Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 05, 2008, 09:51:55 PM

I have a question about Joran's passport...since I am so old and dumb I will need an answer rather quickly before I forget why I asked...but according to that passport it does indicate that Joran was in Thailand, right?  So does that make that photo of him in Thailand more plausible or not?


yes very plausible.

the visa dates match with the date the photo in Bangkok was taken (early april).
and also what this naieve guy Marten Brakx said.

he entered Thailand 4th of March. he was allowed to stay until April 2nd.
but he overstayed his visum and left Thailand April 19th.
so he probably had to pay a fine for that.

as to where he is now:

on the 25th of April he re-entered Thailand.
at the time the photocopy was taken he was still in Thailand due to the fact that the departure card was still in the passport.
he is allowed to stay until 24th of May.

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[2NJSons_Mom]

Red posted about the woman reporting rape in June, 2008, with Jossy confirming.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/06/14/aruba-tourist-woman-reports-rape-in-aruba-on-eagle-beach/

[Lifesong]

2NJ's link with the passport:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2819.460

Destiny
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
« Reply #460 on: May 05, 2008, 09:14:23 PM »

I was Bored and *stirred* the pot earlier today....

This just in from Diario....kinda late nite email too....what should I reply?


Hi XXXXXXXXX
Why was the passport of Joran appeared online.
You have more information about it.
Let me know.Thks
XXXXXXXXX

K-Swiss sneakers:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/05/30/diario-aruba-jorans-skeakers-found-at-light-house-in-aruba/
Diario Aruba: Joran’s Sneakers Found at Light House in Aruba???

Woman Raped:

Aruba: Tourist Woman Reports Rape in Aruba on Eagle Beach
(Scared Monkeys News Headline dated June 14, 2008)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/06/14/aruba-tourist-woman-reports-rape-in-aruba-on-eagle-beach/

UPDATE I: Confirmation of woman’s story in Aruba

We have talked to sources in Aruba and Jossy Mansur of Diario and have confirmed that a woman has reported a rape to police. The rape is reported to have occurred on Eagle Beach.

I was able to confirm the news. It happened on the Eagle Beach, in the area of the low-rise hotels. The victim did go to the hospital accompanied by the police. We don’t know yet if she was attacked by one or more persons. Those are the only details available for now but we will have the rest of the story sometime tomorrow.

Ok then, so far the passport, the shoes, and the rape story all involve Diario and/or Destiny?  Or just Destiny's involvement with her "source" @ Diario?

I'm almost so lost I should stop asking questions!    

[Kermit]

September 2 Kyle returned to US.... and he went to John's house when he got back.
September 6 Destiny posted things are happening in Aruba

September 10 both Kyle and Caps show up posting again

Coincidental or not?




Natalee Holloway Case - A&E

9/18/2008
 











Bill Kurtis interviewed this Mike Zinseria guy and then they went out on a boat to demonstrate how easy it is to dispose of her body in a cage, would only take about 15 minutes in total.

Mike Zinseria said that the only way to figure it out and search is with ROV or submarine and that would cost a lot of money, but it is the most accurate to search the waters.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFb8R2tkkk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhN4qs9GgjQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGzF52q9YpQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRpJoNzCj_E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HbBOLLMVco

[Kermit]

CAPS WITNESS WAITED THREE YEARS TO COME FORWARD AND WHEN HE DID HE WENT TO THE SHIPS CAPTAIN!

WITNESS APPEARS SHORTLY AFTER THEY FIND THE TRAP
no Tim Miller on board
no Dateline
no FBI
John Silvetti has been working with the CAPS witness
Kyle has been trying to stall everyone telling them September something will happen
CAPS has been telling everyone at the SM site that he needs to know Natalee's religion and then he is suppose to be looking through the cemetary all based on his theory and what this eye witness has told him inspite of
the FACT that DAVE HOLLOWAY told Caps they had searched the cemetary.
Destiny is the one that is given the photos of the POND that Caps/witness says they saw Joran.

Why would yet again, evidence be handed out to someone on the website? Just like Julia Renfro who handed over the Skeeters tape to Roger Scrux to post on a website.


Remember it IS HANS MOS & RICHARDSON who had/have the evidence from the trap & not sent it to the FBI
 

HANS MOS is in charge of the investigation.


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #761 6/26 -
« Reply #235 on: Today at 09:13:20 AM » Did the Monkeys ever get an answer to the analysis of the material found in the cage by the Persistence, but removed and secured by the Arubans?
In Particular, the material that appeared to be blue denim?
scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2979.220

 
DEDICATED TO FINDING NATALEE OR A SCHEME???
Attempting to sell the ROV footage of the CAGE/TRAP
kyle posted:
#544 on:
February 28, 2008, 11:28:32 PM
This is a very good idea. We've been working on that for a couple weeks. I've personally been handling the matter while I was on the east coast last week.
Unfortunately, the Dateline story aired along with Greta and scooped up the remainder of what the press felt was immediately worth reporting on. I can't blame them. It's business. Definitely shot that down though. Move on. Deal with it. Stay the course
.http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2654.msg357222#msg357222


Withholding evidence
Obstruction of Justice
Accessory After the Fact
Aiding and Abetting/Accessory

[Anna]

Chavez Deploys Navy to Venezuela's Seaports
Sunday, March 15, 2009 


Print ShareThisCARACAS, Venezuela  —  President Hugo Chavez deployed the navy to Venezuela's seaports on Sunday, and he said state governors who challenge new legislation bringing transportation hubs under federal control could end up in prison.

Speaking during his weekly television and radio program, Chavez ordered naval vessels to seize control of Port Cabello in Carabobo state and Maracaibo Port in Zulia state — two of Venezuela's largest seaports.

Rest of the article at:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509295,00.html

[hotping]

Kermit

Will Anyone be held accountable or be charged for

Withholding evidence
Obstruction of Justice
Accessory After the Fact
Aiding and Abetting/Accessory

TIA

 

[klaasend]

Too much Chat n Grumbling will turn you from this....

http://tinyurl.com/cm3hh3


To this.....   

http://tinyurl.com/c436gy

[hotping]

Too much Chat n Grumbling will turn you from this....

http://tinyurl.com/cm3hh3


To this.....   

http://tinyurl.com/c436gy

 

[Blue Moon]

Too much Chat n Grumbling will turn you from this....

http://tinyurl.com/cm3hh3


To this.....   

http://tinyurl.com/c436gy

 

[Lifesong]

Too much Chat n Grumbling will turn you from this....

http://tinyurl.com/cm3hh3


To this.....   

http://tinyurl.com/c436gy

 

How humble and generous of her to have He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named as her avatar!  He makes a pretty woman...

          

[Magnolia]

Too much Chat n Grumbling will turn you from this....

http://tinyurl.com/cm3hh3


To this.....   

http://tinyurl.com/c436gy

Dame Edna is far more enjoyable than that woman who is using her picture.

[SuzieQ]

Looks like Venezuela has picked the country they want to share their oil with.

http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/news-14928--12-12--.html

PetroChina, Venezuela to build Guangdong oil refinery

 
Published on Saturday, March 14, 2009 

By Ying Wang

BEIJING, China (Bloomberg): PetroChina Co. and Venezuela will build a refinery in Guangdong province that will rival the biggest Chinese oil-processing plant by capacity as the two nations reinforce their energy ties.

PetroChina, the country’s largest oil company, will “further realize” the agreements with Venezuela on the 400,000 barrel-a-day refinery when energy officials from the South American nation visit Beijing this month, Chairman Jiang Jiemin told reporters on Friday. The capacity will match the size of China Petroleum & Chemical Corp.’s plant in Zhejiang province.

 
Petrochina chairman Jiang Jiemin. AFP PHOTO
Venezuela, the world’s fifth-biggest oil exporter, and China plan to boost oil production from their joint ventures in the South American nation by more than 10-fold in the next six years to 1 million barrels a day. China’s oil and natural-gas shortages will persist in the “long term,” PetroChina’s Jiang said on Jan. 12.

China National Petroleum Corp., PetroChina’s parent, signed an accord with Guangdong yesterday to construct the 55 billion- yuan ($8 billion) refinery, the Guangzhou Daily reported today. PetroChina will own more than 51 percent of the plant and Venezuela will have the rest, Jiang said in Beijing.

“We will start building the Yuedong plant as soon as we get government approval,” said Jiang, who added that a proposal to construct the refinery will be submitted this year to the National Development and Reform Commission, China’s top economic planner. Construction may begin next year, Guangzhou Daily said.

The refinery will source heavy crude oil “mainly from Venezuela,” Jiang said.

Venezuela’s oil is “at the service of China,” Chavez said on Feb. 17. “All the oil China needs for the next 200 years, it’s here. It’s in Venezuela.”

Venezuela has reached out to China and Russia in an attempt to obtain financing for projects in the South American country in exchange for oil and reduce dependence on the U Petroleos de Venezuela SA, known as PDVSA, will provide 200,000 barrels a day to the Asian country to pay down a $4 billion loan from China Development Bank.

The two countries agreed in May 2008 to build a refinery in China and create a joint venture to drill for oil in the Junin 4 area, where China National has been quantifying and certifying reserves. Venezuela plans to export 1 million barrels of oil a day to China by 2011 or 2012, Chavez said then.

China, the world’s second-largest energy consumer, entered into oil-for-loans accords with Venezuela, Brazil and Russia last month, tapping its $1.95 trillion foreign-exchange reserves at a time when credit is scarce.
 
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[MuffyBee]

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[bastibro]

Good evening klaasend, Debbie, Lifesong, bastibro, Mere, Magnolia and 9 Guests  

Good evening Muffy

[Lifesong]

And...what do you know...

The naked picture came from Diario.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2898.msg389282#msg389282
klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #757 6/8 -
« Reply #653 on: June 12, 2008, 02:12:00 PM » 

Posted by Writergal at RU:

Writergal wrote:

Joran ought to be grateful the hometown paper put a box over it--makes it look as if there's something behind Door Number Two

http://news.diario-aruba.com/content/view/2990/30/

[MuffyBee]

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Good evening Muffy

Hi basitbro