Haleigh Marie Cummings #7 3/14/09 - 3/18/09

[luckyday]

People of a certain age say a lot of inane crap on those my space deals, imo.

Unless Crystal has a mile long rap sheet, her gibberish on my page or my face or whatever doesn't mean a lot to me.

MOO





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I agree - it means Jack to me and you and Mr. McGoo, but it may mean something to a DCF worker/Ron & Misty's lawyer (which I would bet my bippy they already have)/a judge.

And Chloe is 9 months old.

[Wyks]

Can you share what was said about the abuse?

I would, except that I cannot remember their exact words and I don't want to say it differently than they did, other than what I posted above.  Does Geraldo have transcripts of his show posted afterward like NG and Greta? 

Thanks Wyks...I will wait on the transcript or video on you tube.

You're welcome, Darla.  I think my brain went into a bit of shock and went into neutral when I heard them talking about it.  I know what they said, just cannot for the life of me recall exact words.  Sorry.   

[rana]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

[Wyks]

Can you share what was said about the abuse?

I almost need the transcript, but anyone correct me if I get it wrong......the atty has been told by locals who first hand witnessed child abuse to the point of being black and blue and bloody and drug use was present in the home.......

That sums it up pretty well, IM.  They also talked a bit about letting DCF handle it from this point.  Could it be that Crystal first heard of this when the atty recently talked with the locals?     Sounds like it to me.  Gosh, one would have to hold me back from the baby daddy!! 

But as others have said, how could Crystal have not known, had she actually been seeing those kids every other weekend? 

[Heart]

I think this is new at least it is new to me that Junior first told a child protection team about the man in black just a few days after Haleigh was taken.

Angel Who Cares02-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Haleigh's brother: Man took her from bedroom
Published: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
<snipped>
Investigators are following up a lead provided by the brother of a missing 5-year-old Putnam County girl that a man came into the room where she was sleeping and took her.
Putnam County sheriff’s Capt. Dick Schauland confirmed that officers had received the lead but didn’t provide any details except that the boy gave the report to members of a child protection team. Ronald Cummings Jr., was 3 when he was interviewed the week Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings was reported missing from her Satsuma home. “Everything they were able to find out from him they are following up on,” Schauland said.
 

Interresting, so the man taking her as reported by Jr. isn't new?

klaasend, the first time that Crystal mentioned the man in black was on Nancy Grace's show Feburary 23.

But, Junior mentioned it to the child protection team just after she was taken.

Where does it say that just after she was taken?  Did I miss something?

Sorry Heart, I was quoting from another one that I did not post:

Angel Who Cares02-23-2009, 10:27 PM
Brother: Man in black grabbed Haleigh
Authorities 'following up on that lead'
Story updated at 10:23 PM on Monday, Feb. 23, 2009
<snipped>
Did a man dressed in black sneak into the room where 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings was sleeping two weeks ago and steal her from her bed? That’s what her brother, Ronald Cummings Jr., then 3, told investigators from a child protection team when they interviewed him in the first few days after his sister disappeared.“The Sheriff’s Office is aware of what the little boy said and is following up on that lead,” Capt. Dick Schauland told the Times-Union Monday night, “but we are not commenting on any of the interviews.”

“Our forces have not scaled back,” he said. Of the county’s 17 detectives, five are solely assigned to the Haleigh investigation, he said, and the other dozen work on it as needed. There also are four investigators from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and an undetermined number of FBI agents working the case, he said.
“They all are still running down the more than 1,600 leads we have received, but nothing has come up that justifies any type of massive ground or water search,” Schauland said.

Article:
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-23/story/brother_man_in_black_grabbed_haleigh

Minnie, check the date of that article.  It just so happens to be the same date that Crystal informed NG about what Jr. had said about the man in black.

And check the time of the article.  It would have been posted after the NG show.

It could be that Angel Who Cares is in the no or perhaps adding more to the story than has been reported.

You may be right but it appears they had interviewed the LE.  Are you saying you think they saw it on NG and are just making it appear they interviewed LE ?

According to the article they spoke with Capt. Dick Schauland on Monday night.  That would have been Feb 23, the same day that Crystal was on NG.  Now I will see if I can find any info of when investigators from a child protection team interviewed Jr.

[islandmonkey]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

IDK~I'd ask Marie, but then get slammed by some posters for repeating "gossip"

[minnie]

Can you share what was said about the abuse?

I would, except that I cannot remember their exact words and I don't want to say it differently than they did, other than what I posted above.  Does Geraldo have transcripts of his show posted afterward like NG and Greta? 

Thanks Wyks...I will wait on the transcript or video on you tube.

I don't know if you are going to be up late or not, but it will be re-televised at 12 central time.

[AZSunny]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

How old is Crystal's baby? Anyone know?

I think 11 months~strictly going from memory

And is the father of this baby they one she is with now named Chad? 

[Wyks]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

That's what I'd like to know too, Rana.  Am not sure if any of that info is available to the public. Guess it will likely come out if the custody case goes forward tho. 

[islandmonkey]

Can you share what was said about the abuse?

I almost need the transcript, but anyone correct me if I get it wrong......the atty has been told by locals who first hand witnessed child abuse to the point of being black and blue and bloody and drug use was present in the home.......

That sums it up pretty well, IM.  They also talked a bit about letting DCF handle it from this point.  Could it be that Crystal first heard of this when the atty recently talked with the locals?     Sounds like it to me.  Gosh, one would have to hold me back from the baby daddy!! 

But as others have said, how could Crystal have not known, had she actually been seeing those kids every other weekend? 

I don't know, they never mentioned any of that to me, but I'm sure with cobra there people may feel a bit safer to tell what they know........

IDK about her not knowing unless he beat them the Wednesday that was say 10 days from her visitation~got me on that one!

[Heart]

I think this is new at least it is new to me that Junior first told a child protection team about the man in black just a few days after Haleigh was taken.

Angel Who Cares02-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Haleigh's brother: Man took her from bedroom
Published: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
<snipped>
Investigators are following up a lead provided by the brother of a missing 5-year-old Putnam County girl that a man came into the room where she was sleeping and took her.
Putnam County sheriff’s Capt. Dick Schauland confirmed that officers had received the lead but didn’t provide any details except that the boy gave the report to members of a child protection team. Ronald Cummings Jr., was 3 when he was interviewed the week Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings was reported missing from her Satsuma home. “Everything they were able to find out from him they are following up on,” Schauland said.
 

Interresting, so the man taking her as reported by Jr. isn't new?

klaasend, the first time that Crystal mentioned the man in black was on Nancy Grace's show Feburary 23.

But, Junior mentioned it to the child protection team just after she was taken.

Where does it say that just after she was taken?  Did I miss something?

Sorry Heart, I was quoting from another one that I did not post:

Angel Who Cares02-23-2009, 10:27 PM
Brother: Man in black grabbed Haleigh
Authorities 'following up on that lead'
Story updated at 10:23 PM on Monday, Feb. 23, 2009
<snipped>
Did a man dressed in black sneak into the room where 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings was sleeping two weeks ago and steal her from her bed? That’s what her brother, Ronald Cummings Jr., then 3, told investigators from a child protection team when they interviewed him in the first few days after his sister disappeared.“The Sheriff’s Office is aware of what the little boy said and is following up on that lead,” Capt. Dick Schauland told the Times-Union Monday night, “but we are not commenting on any of the interviews.”

“Our forces have not scaled back,” he said. Of the county’s 17 detectives, five are solely assigned to the Haleigh investigation, he said, and the other dozen work on it as needed. There also are four investigators from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and an undetermined number of FBI agents working the case, he said.
“They all are still running down the more than 1,600 leads we have received, but nothing has come up that justifies any type of massive ground or water search,” Schauland said.

Article:
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-23/story/brother_man_in_black_grabbed_haleigh

Minnie, check the date of that article.  It just so happens to be the same date that Crystal informed NG about what Jr. had said about the man in black.

And check the time of the article.  It would have been posted after the NG show.

It could be that Angel Who Cares is in the no or perhaps adding more to the story than has been reported.

You may be right but it appears they had interviewed the LE.  Are you saying you think they saw it on NG and are just making it appear they interviewed LE ?

According to the article they spoke with Capt. Dick Schauland on Monday night.  That would have been Feb 23, the same day that Crystal was on NG.  Now I will see if I can find any info of when investigators from a child protection team interviewed Jr.

Plus Minnie, Crystal has never mentioned that Jr told any investigators this. She has always stated that Jr told her that a man dressed in black/a black man dressed in black took his sissy.

[AZSunny]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

How old is Crystal's baby? Anyone know?

I think 11 months~strictly going from memory

And is the father of this baby, Chloe(?),  the man she is with now with and engaged to named Chad?  (self edit -typing too fast!)

[luckyday]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

IDK~I'd ask Marie, but then get slammed by some posters for repeating "gossip"

IM, I can guaran-damn-tee-ya you w/not be slammed by This Monkey in any way, shape or form. And I would bet that IF Crystal missed some weekends, it was due to Ron, not Crystal.

I do have to say that I would think that Crystal had a very good clue of the comings (pardon the pun) & goings in Ronald's world. I think she just kind of blew it off because she was so happy to be away from him and away from his abuse. She has Chad and a new baby & I think that became her life. Not saying she doesn't love HL or Jr. at all, just saying her priorities changed. Now that HL is missing, I feel she has had a major reality check. I do not fault her and I hope and pray she gets full custody of Jr. I see Ron having a major melt-down. I would not put it past Ron to get all guns a-blazing and go ballistic. Now, I may be damned to hell in the infamous handbasket for my comments, but they are mine and mine alone. MOO!!

[higherhopes]

I'd like to reply to the pister that wondered why Chrstal hadnt filed for custody of the kids till now.....Id like to say that first of all, she doesnt live in this town and doesnt know everything that transpired in the day to day actuivities of the children, second, she had already lost custody once abd by now we all know that this is more or less The cummings stomping grounds and with Moma Neves there to stand up in court with Ronald, do myou really think it would do her any good, if she went to court and said, uh  I want custody because a 17 year old is watching the children, do you not think Mother Neves wouldnt have stood up and said no she's not I do, do you not think anything she tried the Cummings family would have stood up in court and lied for Ronald,why of course they would!!!!!!!!  Now though everything is out in the open and she has proof of them staying with Mistie,she has proof that something could happen to the children in Ronalds care, and if this is what it took for me to think that I finally had a chance to get custody of my children.....whell hell I'd be all over it like white on rice too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wyks]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

IDK~I'd ask Marie, but then get slammed by some posters for repeating "gossip"

Can't speak for others, but (IMO) info that you get from Marie herself, would not be 'gossip'.  Doesn't mean that posters won't get slammed anyway by some folks. 

[luckyday]

I'd like to reply to the pister that wondered why Chrstal hadnt filed for custody of the kids till now.....Id like to say that first of all, she doesnt live in this town and doesnt know everything that transpired in the day to day actuivities of the children, second, she had already lost custody once abd by now we all know that this is more or less The cummings stomping grounds and with Moma Neves there to stand up in court with Ronald, do myou really think it would do her any good, if she went to court and said, uh  I want custody because a 17 year old is watching the children, do you not think Mother Neves wouldnt have stood up and said no she's not I do, do you not think anything she tried the Cummings family would have stood up in court and lied for Ronald,why of course they would!!!!!!!!  Now though everything is out in the open and she has proof of them staying with Mistie,she has proof that something could happen to the children in Ronalds care, and if this is what it took for me to think that I finally had a chance to get custody of my children.....whell hell I'd be all over it like white on rice too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HH. I see your point and do agree w/you. It does look like Satsuma was "Ron's hood" so to speak. I get that. What I would like to know is: WHAT IS SOOO DANGEROUS AND SCARY ABOUT RON THAT NO ONE - AND I MEAN NO ONE - SEEMS TO WANT TO TALK??? If he is that scary, than by all means, I do not blame Crystal at all. I feel for her to the core of my being.

[minnie]

I think this is new at least it is new to me that Junior first told a child protection team about the man in black just a few days after Haleigh was taken.

Angel Who Cares02-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Haleigh's brother: Man took her from bedroom
Published: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
<snipped>
Investigators are following up a lead provided by the brother of a missing 5-year-old Putnam County girl that a man came into the room where she was sleeping and took her.
Putnam County sheriff’s Capt. Dick Schauland confirmed that officers had received the lead but didn’t provide any details except that the boy gave the report to members of a child protection team. Ronald Cummings Jr., was 3 when he was interviewed the week Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings was reported missing from her Satsuma home. “Everything they were able to find out from him they are following up on,” Schauland said.
 

Interresting, so the man taking her as reported by Jr. isn't new?

klaasend, the first time that Crystal mentioned the man in black was on Nancy Grace's show Feburary 23.

But, Junior mentioned it to the child protection team just after she was taken.

Where does it say that just after she was taken?  Did I miss something?

Sorry Heart, I was quoting from another one that I did not post:

Angel Who Cares02-23-2009, 10:27 PM
Brother: Man in black grabbed Haleigh
Authorities 'following up on that lead'
Story updated at 10:23 PM on Monday, Feb. 23, 2009
<snipped>
Did a man dressed in black sneak into the room where 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings was sleeping two weeks ago and steal her from her bed? That’s what her brother, Ronald Cummings Jr., then 3, told investigators from a child protection team when they interviewed him in the first few days after his sister disappeared.“The Sheriff’s Office is aware of what the little boy said and is following up on that lead,” Capt. Dick Schauland told the Times-Union Monday night, “but we are not commenting on any of the interviews.”

“Our forces have not scaled back,” he said. Of the county’s 17 detectives, five are solely assigned to the Haleigh investigation, he said, and the other dozen work on it as needed. There also are four investigators from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and an undetermined number of FBI agents working the case, he said.
“They all are still running down the more than 1,600 leads we have received, but nothing has come up that justifies any type of massive ground or water search,” Schauland said.

Article:
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-23/story/brother_man_in_black_grabbed_haleigh

Minnie, check the date of that article.  It just so happens to be the same date that Crystal informed NG about what Jr. had said about the man in black.

And check the time of the article.  It would have been posted after the NG show.

It could be that Angel Who Cares is in the no or perhaps adding more to the story than has been reported.

You may be right but it appears they had interviewed the LE.  Are you saying you think they saw it on NG and are just making it appear they interviewed LE ?

According to the article they spoke with Capt. Dick Schauland on Monday night.  That would have been Feb 23, the same day that Crystal was on NG.  Now I will see if I can find any info of when investigators from a child protection team interviewed Jr.

Plus Minnie, Crystal has never mentioned that Jr told any investigators this. She has always stated that Jr told her that a man dressed in black/a black man dressed in black took his sissy.

that is another thing that I question.  I don't think a 4 year old would use the term "black man" unless he heard someone else say it.  they don't see the color of skin as being any different.  i wonder if he made it up based on over hearing someone else speculating on what happened.  someone in the crowd or whatever.

[Foggy Dew]

I am so glad Crystal now has an attorney. BUT, even though I feel she had absolutely nada to do with HL's disapperance, she knew from the get-go that Misty was living w/Ron. That being said, she is NOW saying part of the reason she wants custody is because Misty is only 17 & is a kid. Has something changed?? She (Misty) was more of a kid 5 months ago. Did it take her daughter to go missing in order for her (Crystal) to wake up and see the light? And I remember her myspace website was full of "we got drunk, high" and the fake pot leaves around her doorway. So, I hope like hell that Ms. Crystal has seen the light and stopped w/the pot smoking, gets her shit together and gets "Butterbean" back.

I think the main reason Ron married Misty was so they cannot go after him for stat rape. I give it one month and Misty w/be out of there and back with either Mother Croslin (across the street from Ron's), in TN w/the perv cousin or with that Robert dude from the myspace.

And, IF Ron beat Jr. to a bloody pulp, wouldn't Crystal know that if she saw him every other weekend? 

I am not saying that Ron did not beat him - in fact, I do not put it past him one iota.

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

IDK~I'd ask Marie, but then get slammed by some posters for repeating "gossip"

Ha ha good one IM.  I wouldn't think anything you find'd necessarily be gossip--more likely "hearsay".  Facts would be be good stuff though.   Good luck w/that.

[luckyday]

Ha ha good one IM.  I wouldn't think anything you find'd necessarily be gossip--more likely "hearsay".  Facts would be be good stuff though.   Good luck w/that.

the above snipped from Foggy Dew/

W/all due respect, I guess unless & until someone actually comes out and says, "Yes, I abducted/murdered/backhanded HL to her death", everything else w/be "hearsay"??

[rana]

I'd like to reply to the pister that wondered why Chrstal hadnt filed for custody of the kids till now.....Id like to say that first of all,

she doesnt live in this town and doesnt know everything that transpired in the day to day actuivities of the children,

second, she had already lost custody once abd by now we all know that this is more or less The cummings stomping grounds and with Moma Neves there to stand up in court with Ronald,

do myou really think it would do her any good,

if she went to court and said, uh  I want custody because a 17 year old is watching the children, do you not think Mother Neves wouldnt have stood up and said no she's not I do,

do you not think anything she tried the Cummings family would have stood up in court and lied for Ronald,why of course they would!!!!!!!!

Now though everything is out in the open and she has proof of them staying with Mistie,she has proof that something could happen to the children in Ronalds care,

and if this is what it took for me to think that I finally had a chance to get custody of my children.....whell hell I'd be all over it like white on rice too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly, HigherHopes; Wordy Word Word to all seven points. (aka I totally agree.) 

CS looks and seems defeated, imo. She may have felt helpless and powerless; IDK. I do think that if she had thought that she could have carried something thru to fruition, she would have.

Shine a light on roaches and they scatter.

She may feel that she finally has a chance now that the whole country is watching. "Things" will less likely be sugar-coated; and the infamous Neves spin won't carry as much weight.


MOO <-- My Opinion Only