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« Reply #840 on: March 16, 2009, 02:23:35 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 





I know quite a bit about critters.  And no, they do not play dead. 

Oh, just saw your post as I was logging off.  Thanks, Foggy! 

My sons are in here each trying to get the other one to reach in there and grab it, put it in a bag and take it out.  The property manager won't deal with it til morning.  The wuss.    
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« Reply #841 on: March 16, 2009, 02:23:45 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 





  Yes, they do play dead........

ExaminationWear protective gloves, and hold the bat firmly but gentlyand look over body for wounds (often indicated by mattedfur). Carefully examine wing and leg bones, and wingmembranes. The wings are normally folded at the side ofthe body but can be fully extended by gently pivoting at thewings/thumb joint. Hold the extended wing up to the light tolook for bruising or fractures. Small punctures in themembranes are very often due to cats, and so there maybe more extensive abdominal or thoracic problems. Thisalso commonly introduces deadly infection, such aspasteurella, so antibiotics are recommended when catdamage is suspected.Some bats have been known to “play dead” whenhandled.The legs and wings are drawn in tightly and thebat stops struggling.Agency.Illustrations: Tessa Lovatt-Smith & Gez Hobson © BatConservation Trust August 2003. Reg. Charity no.1012361 Company limited by guarantee. Registered inEngland 271 2823
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« Reply #842 on: March 16, 2009, 02:25:21 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 





I know quite a bit about critters.  And no, they do not play dead. 
Well, they are nocturnal, so if it isn't movin or squeeking, it's prolly a goner!!

Let us hope!  Thanks Lucky! 
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« Reply #843 on: March 16, 2009, 02:28:17 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 





  Yes, they do play dead........

ExaminationWear protective gloves, and hold the bat firmly but gentlyand look over body for wounds (often indicated by mattedfur). Carefully examine wing and leg bones, and wingmembranes. The wings are normally folded at the side ofthe body but can be fully extended by gently pivoting at thewings/thumb joint. Hold the extended wing up to the light tolook for bruising or fractures. Small punctures in themembranes are very often due to cats, and so there maybe more extensive abdominal or thoracic problems. Thisalso commonly introduces deadly infection, such aspasteurella, so antibiotics are recommended when catdamage is suspected.Some bats have been known to “play dead” whenhandled.The legs and wings are drawn in tightly and thebat stops struggling.Agency.Illustrations: Tessa Lovatt-Smith & Gez Hobson © BatConservation Trust August 2003. Reg. Charity no.1012361 Company limited by guarantee. Registered inEngland 271 2823

  

Okies, bathtub for me tonight.  Thanks for the info IM! 
   
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« Reply #844 on: March 16, 2009, 02:36:12 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 





  Yes, they do play dead........

ExaminationWear protective gloves, and hold the bat firmly but gentlyand look over body for wounds (often indicated by mattedfur). Carefully examine wing and leg bones, and wingmembranes. The wings are normally folded at the side ofthe body but can be fully extended by gently pivoting at thewings/thumb joint. Hold the extended wing up to the light tolook for bruising or fractures. Small punctures in themembranes are very often due to cats, and so there maybe more extensive abdominal or thoracic problems. Thisalso commonly introduces deadly infection, such aspasteurella, so antibiotics are recommended when catdamage is suspected.Some bats have been known to “play dead” whenhandled.The legs and wings are drawn in tightly and thebat stops struggling.Agency.Illustrations: Tessa Lovatt-Smith & Gez Hobson © BatConservation Trust August 2003. Reg. Charity no.1012361 Company limited by guarantee. Registered inEngland 271 2823

  

Okies, bathtub for me tonight.  Thanks for the info IM! 
   

Anytime~sorry, still laughing at your son trying to give a bat CPR night all!
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« Reply #845 on: March 16, 2009, 02:46:41 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 





  Yes, they do play dead........

ExaminationWear protective gloves, and hold the bat firmly but gentlyand look over body for wounds (often indicated by mattedfur). Carefully examine wing and leg bones, and wingmembranes. The wings are normally folded at the side ofthe body but can be fully extended by gently pivoting at thewings/thumb joint. Hold the extended wing up to the light tolook for bruising or fractures. Small punctures in themembranes are very often due to cats, and so there maybe more extensive abdominal or thoracic problems. Thisalso commonly introduces deadly infection, such aspasteurella, so antibiotics are recommended when catdamage is suspected.Some bats have been known to “play dead” whenhandled.The legs and wings are drawn in tightly and thebat stops struggling.Agency.Illustrations: Tessa Lovatt-Smith & Gez Hobson © BatConservation Trust August 2003. Reg. Charity no.1012361 Company limited by guarantee. Registered inEngland 271 2823

  

Okies, bathtub for me tonight.  Thanks for the info IM! 
   

Anytime~sorry, still laughing at your son trying to give a bat CPR night all!
Couldn't sleep - so I got back on to SM to see if there's anything new and this is what I read???? OMG - how can anyone sleep after reading your plight, Wykes???? Please be careful - and I have to ask, why would you son (or anyone for that matter) try to give a bat CPR???? The tears are running I am laughing so hard!!!
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« Reply #846 on: March 16, 2009, 02:48:29 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 





  Yes, they do play dead........

ExaminationWear protective gloves, and hold the bat firmly but gentlyand look over body for wounds (often indicated by mattedfur). Carefully examine wing and leg bones, and wingmembranes. The wings are normally folded at the side ofthe body but can be fully extended by gently pivoting at thewings/thumb joint. Hold the extended wing up to the light tolook for bruising or fractures. Small punctures in themembranes are very often due to cats, and so there maybe more extensive abdominal or thoracic problems. Thisalso commonly introduces deadly infection, such aspasteurella, so antibiotics are recommended when catdamage is suspected.Some bats have been known to “play dead” whenhandled.The legs and wings are drawn in tightly and thebat stops struggling.Agency.Illustrations: Tessa Lovatt-Smith & Gez Hobson © BatConservation Trust August 2003. Reg. Charity no.1012361 Company limited by guarantee. Registered inEngland 271 2823


O/T    Bats will remain still if in torpor or full hibernation or are deathly ill (ie if infected w/rabies).  But "playing dead" is a different state than when an animal senses/"believes" its end is nigh and gives up struggling to escape. 
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« Reply #847 on: March 16, 2009, 03:20:49 AM »

O/T update: 

Thanks everyone for your help!  My two younger sons arm-wrestled, CPR-for-bat son lost, so got to figure out a way to escort dead?/alive? bat outside.  He got an oven mitt and a paper bag and went in.  Grabbed the limp (probably terrified) bat, shoved it into the bag, closed the top and took it outside to the back 40.  Opened the bag and turned it over letting the bat out.  Then hustled back into my apt. 

Now they are sitting here preening and slapping themselves on the backs for being so brave in the face of a 3in x 1in puff of fur.  (well I have to admit, I was hiding behind my snoring doxie, who was behind the 2 snoring cats, who were behind my soon-to-be DIL. 

Can't make this stuff up folks!   

There is a special place in heaven for the mother of sons.  Yep.  Got to be.   

Sorry again for the O/T

Thanks all!  Nighters! 


   
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« Reply #849 on: March 16, 2009, 06:06:07 AM »

I am back... have been for a bit was trying to catch up and this interview was pointed out to me..
http://rochesterpopulist.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/john-oconnor-interviews-crystal-sheffield/
I thought Crystal was admitting to her past drug use? I am off to watch more of these..
Thank you Searching for this link...
Wow...did u catch the comments b4 that video starts?..geez

yeah...what was that about???
Thats what im asking cuz theres no other comments on that page..and that comes up right in front of the video then boom its gone..Strange people i tell ya..

I think there was a comment section that had to be closed due to what he perceived as threats.......I wish we could screen capture it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFIBsFxTVM8&eurl=http://rochesterpopulist.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/john-oconnor-interviews-crystal-sheffield/
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« Reply #850 on: March 16, 2009, 07:01:17 AM »

http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-Family-Advocate-Out/8iP23JfsQ0eg5Q4r0Kw_EQ.cspx

SATSUMA, Fla. – Child advocate, Wayanne Kruger arrived from Arizona a week ago to lend her support and expertise to Haleigh Cummings' family in their quest to bring her home.

Along with bringing more media exposure, Kruger promised new ways to raise money for the reward fund and immediately became the family advocate, but it didn't last long.

Kim Picazio, an attorney representing the Sheffield family, released the following statement Saturday.

"Wanted to thank Kruger for her emotional support, but at this time she is not associated, affiliated or working for Picazio or the Sheffield family."

Kruger’s abrupt departure does raise questions, but neither Haleigh's family or attorney Kim Picazio would speak to the matter when we contacted them, only saying they want to keep the focus on finding Haleigh.

CBS47/FOX 30 also spoke with Wayanne Kruger over the telephone about her departure. She says she will be supporting the family from her home in Arizona, but declined to speak with us on camera, because it would be a violation of her confidentiality agreement.

Was that not the same line that a spokesman used during the Anthony case?
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« Reply #851 on: March 16, 2009, 08:08:50 AM »



Forgot about this picture.

Shows a sedan at the house.

No idea whose it is.


I wonder if the street light on the left works ?
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« Reply #852 on: March 16, 2009, 08:14:28 AM »

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

IDK~I'd ask Marie, but then get slammed by some posters for repeating "gossip"

Can't speak for others, but (IMO) info that you get from Marie herself, would not be 'gossip'.  Doesn't mean that posters won't get slammed anyway by some folks. 

Oh, I agree~and i was really being sarcastic because I don't really give a rat's @ss what others think about me, I have only offered Marie my help and don't question her, although i think she would tell me certain things, just nothing to jeapordize the investigation.


I completely agree Wyks;

And as for fellow posters getting slammed b/c someone doesn't like what is said...... well,
"Quelle surprise"

 -- or rather alternately, the ever-fun and popular phonetic version,"Kell soo-PREEZE!"   

 

And IslandMonkey, FWIW, I believe you and I think it's great. You go, girl!   Smile   Wink

I, for one, think some people are indeed capable of speaking the truth. It seems some would have us wait until an arrest and conviction before discussing our thoughts on the case. What then? Shall we exchange fudge recipes?

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« Reply #853 on: March 16, 2009, 08:29:03 AM »

O/T  sorry..
I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 


I know quite a bit about critters.  And no, they do not play dead. 




Well, thanks for the insight; But since you brought it up, Foggy Dew, .....that, imo, sounds like heresay.


.....but I don't know; I was at work.




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« Reply #854 on: March 16, 2009, 08:31:21 AM »

O/T  sorry..

I need to know, I mean I realllllllllllly need to know, do bats play dead??   

There's one inside my water heater closet, that was squeaking, but now is very very ermmm still. 

My 26 yr old son said he tried to give it CPR with a hanger.    

Newsflash, boys do NOT grow up! 

But I seriously need to know if bats play dead?  I dun want to poke him and find out. 

Anyone?? 




OMG - I hope you solved the bat problem - yes they do play dead - but more likely if he is in the waterheater closet he expired from CO (assuming you have a gas water heater) - the best way to get him if he is playing dead is to let it get good and cold in the house - assuming you are in a cold area!  Then the bat can not move and you can snag him.

I loved the part about boys not growing up - my hubby just turned 54 and I am still waiting for him to finish growing up!   
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« Reply #855 on: March 16, 2009, 08:40:54 AM »

Crystal said that she is trying for custody of Jr. because

1.  Haleigh is missing.  and...

2.  There is a 17 year old taking care of him. 

The 2nd reason is just now bothering her?    

Could be wrong, but am thinking Misty was supposedly taking care of both of them for the past 4-5 months.  Curious to know then why Crystal didn't file for custody back when Misty moved in?   



sorry if this was already said...I am trying to catch up on the thread yet again! (O/T yesterday I was so hung over from Saturday night out that I didn't get out of bed and on here till around 5 or later...I was feelin a little brutal...but better now..)

^^^^^ what strikes me as odd is that all of a sudden Misty is not capable of taking care of the children since she is only 17...but isn't that the age that Crystal gave birth to Haleigh? was she any more qualified at 17 than Misty or any other child at 17 to be taking care of a child? that will come back to bite her I think....too bad ALL of them didn't set their sites any higher than to be taking care of kids at age 17 on a permanent basis...In our town, birth control is free at the health department...

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« Reply #856 on: March 16, 2009, 08:46:32 AM »

Can you share what was said about the abuse?


I almost need the transcript, but anyone correct me if I get it wrong......the atty has been told by locals who first hand witnessed child abuse to the point of being black and blue and bloody and drug use was present in the home.......

again, possibly another rumor from the "locals"...and probably someone who is more on Crystals "side" than ron's? or someone who just wanted their 5 minutes of fame...
I really am glad that Crystal has an attorney and that perhaps things will move forward for her..I really feel sorry for her and all of them...that being said, I don't think that the attorney should be spouting off about stuff like ron Jr. being beaten bloody without something to back it up...jmo..otherwise, she is being as sensationalizing as Geraldo...
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« Reply #857 on: March 16, 2009, 08:49:13 AM »

Does anyone know - if there's a way to know - if the kids' ever missed any weekends with Crystal? ...Whether cancelled on either Ron or Crystal's part, did they miss any weekends?

IDK~I'd ask Marie, but then get slammed by some posters for repeating "gossip"

Can't speak for others, but (IMO) info that you get from Marie herself, would not be 'gossip'.  Doesn't mean that posters won't get slammed anyway by some folks. 

Oh, I agree~and i was really being sarcastic because I don't really give a rat's @ss what others think about me, I have only offered Marie my help and don't question her, although i think she would tell me certain things, just nothing to jeapordize the investigation.


I completely agree Wyks;

And as for fellow posters getting slammed b/c someone doesn't like what is said...... well,
"Quelle surprise"

 -- or rather alternately, the ever-fun and popular phonetic version,"Kell soo-PREEZE!"   

 

And IslandMonkey, FWIW, I believe you and I think it's great. You go, girl!   Smile   Wink

I, for one, think some people are indeed capable of speaking the truth. It seems some would have us wait until an arrest and conviction before discussing our thoughts on the case. What then? Shall we exchange fudge recipes?

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I did not see anyone say they did not believe IM. I find your post to be rather snotty. I asked a question because that was the first time I had seen that interview. I did not see any posters getting slammed as you say. I do not see why people are getting so snotty over posts questioning certain things. You want people to be able to discuss their thoughts on the case,but then when someone does and you disagree,you post snotty comments. I do not get it. I was just trying to point out that no one has delved into Crystal and kin as they have RC and kin. Like,did you know that after RC filed for custody Crystals mother called DCF on RC? she admitted to it. Did you know that the incorrect address that the court papers were sent to was the address Crystal herself gave.. The doctors appointment scheduled for the same day as court, RC gave Crystal the option of taking Jr. to him the night before so he could go to the doctor, why did she not do it? See, I have not seen any of this discussed. I seen where you posted a snotty post to foggy last night as well and do not see the need in being that way.  I have not said i believe RC and Misty,nor have I said I believe Crystal. I have said several times I think they are all being dishonest about things. I do not know who did or did not do anything to Haleigh but I for one am not ready to go calling RC a child abuser without proof. The fact is DCF did home studies on both of them. If it will make you feel better, I will just not post on this thread anymore.I really am shocked at the attitude...  I,just like other posters,have been posting my thoughts on this case but it seems you do not like my opinions. please tell me where I or anyone else said they did not believe IM. I am just really hurt by the attitudes that have been bleeding through here lately and quite surprised too..Not to mention hurt. Hope everyone has a good day.....
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« Reply #858 on: March 16, 2009, 08:50:51 AM »



People of a certain age say a lot of inane crap on those my space deals, imo.

Unless Crystal has a mile long rap sheet, her gibberish on my page or my face or whatever doesn't mean a lot to me.

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errrr....except for Misty doesn't have a mile long rap sheet either and you are taking what she said on her my space pretty much to heart ....at least the portion of what she said to Amber?
what is the difference here? we can believe  that Crystal didn't mean what she was saying but we can believe that Misty was completely serious on what she wrote? not fair....goose for the gander and all that good stuff...xxxx
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« Reply #859 on: March 16, 2009, 08:51:29 AM »

Family Vacate Tents Near Where Haleigh Disappeared

POSTED: Sunday, March 15, 2009
UPDATED: 10:28 pm EDT March 15, 2009


SATSUMA, Fla. -- Nearly five weeks after Haleigh Cummings vanished, the families of her mother and father have vacated the tents in which they had lived while waiting for her to come home.

The separate families of father Ronald Cummings and mother Crystal Sheffield moved out of their temporary compounds over the weekend after Putnam County officials told them they were in violation of county ordinances and property rights.

Investigators released the mobile home where the 5-year-old disappeared after being put to bed on Feb. 10 back to the family more than a week ago, but Ronald Cummings said he can't bear to go back inside until Haleigh is returned.

The mother's family, who now lives in Baker County, wanted to stay close so they could be there when Haleigh comes back home.

There was no information on Sunday where the families had moved.

Cummings, 25, married 17-year-old Misty Croslin last Thursday and then flew to New York City for an appearance on NBC's "Today Show." Croslin was with Haleigh and her younger brother the night police believe she was abducted.

Cummings said he is convinced that someone took Haleigh and has full confidence that his new bride had nothing to do with it.

In weeks since an Amber Alert was issued, more than 2,000 tips have poured in to detectives. Investigators said they have checked out hundreds of leads and tips in the case, including multiple false sightings of the missing girl.

Last week, the Justice Coalition added $8,490 to the reward for Haleigh, bringing the total reward amount to $35,000.

Family Vacate Tents Near Where Haleigh Disappeared

POSTED: Sunday, March 15, 2009
UPDATED: 10:28 pm EDT March 15, 2009
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An Amber Alert was issued February 10 for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings
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SATSUMA, Fla. -- Nearly five weeks after Haleigh Cummings vanished, the families of her mother and father have vacated the tents in which they had lived while waiting for her to come home.

The separate families of father Ronald Cummings and mother Crystal Sheffield moved out of their temporary compounds over the weekend after Putnam County officials told them they were in violation of county ordinances and property rights.

Investigators released the mobile home where the 5-year-old disappeared after being put to bed on Feb. 10 back to the family more than a week ago, but Ronald Cummings said he can't bear to go back inside until Haleigh is returned.

The mother's family, who now lives in Baker County, wanted to stay close so they could be there when Haleigh comes back home.

There was no information on Sunday where the families had moved.

Cummings, 25, married 17-year-old Misty Croslin last Thursday and then flew to New York City for an appearance on NBC's "Today Show." Croslin was with Haleigh and her younger brother the night police believe she was abducted.

Cummings said he is convinced that someone took Haleigh and has full confidence that his new bride had nothing to do with it.

In weeks since an Amber Alert was issued, more than 2,000 tips have poured in to detectives. Investigators said they have checked out hundreds of leads and tips in the case, including multiple false sightings of the missing girl.

Last week, the Justice Coalition added $8,490 to the reward for Haleigh, bringing the total reward amount to $35,000.

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