Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09 - 3/19/09

[2NJSons_Mom]

NEED SOME HELP PLEASE.  I am getting bombarded with emails from LoRain trying to say that a post that I believe Kermit or Lifesong attributed to her was actually made by me.  I have explained to LoRain that she is wrong and even gave her the link in the forum where the post was made by her.  She doesn't get it and is calling me a liar.  I'm only posting all this so that you guys can get a glimps of the type of emails I receive from these people.

This is the post in question.  As you can see the post has not be edited or modified by anyone it is in it's original state as posted by LoRain:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.msg323270#msg323270


LoRain sent me this email as proof that the post was made by me.  You will see my response to her first followed by her "proof" email. 





Since then the emails I've received from LoRain are as follows:

If you'll put your thinking cap on you will realize that LIFESONG has accused YOU of undermining the MB students.....but hey....I guess that's OK too...huh?...you gonna just let this one go too I suppose.....after all you are the mod....

Then this:

You are such a liar...surely you can't be that dumb...I can read you idiot.....Why would I say it was an "old post" if I had just made it?...you can't bullshit me Klaasend...I'm not stupid...nice try though....and I'll keep posting it til you and everyone else realizes you are an idiot....

Then she emailed the post to me again...

 
NOTE TO LORAIN - I DECIDED TO POST IT ALL OUT IN THE OPEN SO EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT AN IDIOT I AM  

AND YES - THIS IS A PRIVATE EMAIL BUT I WAS PUSHED BY THE INITIATOR INTO POSTING THIS. 

 

Klaas, you cannot explain it any differently.  You started the thread and LoRain submitted the post.  Not sure how I/we can help, but it is very sad that you are being bombarded with insults and accusations.  It's also very sad that LoRain is doing this. 

[Kermit]

Hello all,
I am LoRain and I am surprized I'm posting about myself...I had to withdraw from a Prescription called Paxil this summer, it was not fun and I would recommend not taking it...now
 I am on another medication that gives me about a dozen hot flashes a day...and this is a real pain in the butt...it's been an interesting summer for me to say the least.  I am not close to anyone anywhere, I don't know anymore if this is a good or bad thing.  I have a crippled cat that keeps me busy all the time...I'm an unemployed house painter at the time...I hate and am tired of all the wars going on...ready for world peace...and I am more than ready for Natalee to come home........

[klaasend]

Kermit - I really don't care about what medications anyone is on or not and I don't care what they do for a living.  I just want people to be able to read and comprehend THEIR OWN POSTS.   

[Kermit]

My point is - 12/20 was the first day of the search.

12/20 they emailed the correct dimensions of the cage to the 'cage builder'.

CapsLockWizard's first FP post was on the evening 12/20.


They picked up the model cage the morning of the 12/21.

Anonimo's first FP post was on the night of 12/21.


I wonder who made the cage, as well as which day they met with "the detective and his brother".

Maybe one of these construction companies?  They would have ready access to the materials required for such a task...

MARCELINO VROLIJK RENTAL EQUIPMENT *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  15123/000
 
MARCO VROLIJK CONTRACTOR *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11203/000
 
VROLIJK BEDRIJF *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11067/000
 
VROLIJK CARPINTE SHOP *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  11704/000
 
VROLIJK CONSTRUCTION *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  5231/000
 
VROLIJK HEAVY EQUIPMENT
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  30102/000

Wow is everyone named VROLIJK?

[Kermit]

Kermit - I really don't care about what medications anyone is on or not and I don't care what they do for a living.  I just want people to be able to read and comprehend THEIR OWN POSTS.   

I know, I'm sorry you are bombarded by WHACKADOODELS!

[Lifesong]

<<snipped>>

I wonder who made the cage, as well as which day they met with "the detective and his brother".

Maybe one of these construction companies?  They would have ready access to the materials required for such a task...

MARCELINO VROLIJK RENTAL EQUIPMENT *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  15123/000
 
MARCO VROLIJK CONTRACTOR *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11203/000
 
VROLIJK BEDRIJF *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11067/000
 
VROLIJK CARPINTE SHOP *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  11704/000
 
VROLIJK CONSTRUCTION *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  5231/000
 
VROLIJK HEAVY EQUIPMENT
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  30102/000

     JEN!!!!

But of course!

   I can't tell if you're laughing because I stated the obvious *type* of companies...............or if my post gave you a light bulb moment....................as it was intended to. 

     

[Magnolia]

NEED SOME HELP PLEASE.  I am getting bombarded with emails from LoRain trying to say that a post that I believe Kermit or Lifesong attributed to her was actually made by me.  I have explained to LoRain that she is wrong and even gave her the link in the forum where the post was made by her.  She doesn't get it and is calling me a liar.  I'm only posting all this so that you guys can get a glimps of the type of emails I receive from these people.

This is the post in question.  As you can see the post has not be edited or modified by anyone it is in it's original state as posted by LoRain:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.msg323270#msg323270


LoRain sent me this email as proof that the post was made by me.  You will see my response to her first followed by her "proof" email. 





Since then the emails I've received from LoRain are as follows:

If you'll put your thinking cap on you will realize that LIFESONG has accused YOU of undermining the MB students.....but hey....I guess that's OK too...huh?...you gonna just let this one go too I suppose.....after all you are the mod....

Then this:

You are such a liar...surely you can't be that dumb...I can read you idiot.....Why would I say it was an "old post" if I had just made it?...you can't bullshit me Klaasend...I'm not stupid...nice try though....and I'll keep posting it til you and everyone else realizes you are an idiot....

Then she emailed the post to me again...

 
NOTE TO LORAIN - I DECIDED TO POST IT ALL OUT IN THE OPEN SO EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT AN IDIOT I AM  

AND YES - THIS IS A PRIVATE EMAIL BUT I WAS PUSHED BY THE INITIATOR INTO POSTING THIS. 

I remember her making that post about Alana very well.
She then brought her own post forward because nobody responded to her.
Klaas didn't have a thing to do with it and frankly was very tolerant toward
LoRain and her negative attitude.

And yes, LoRain we do think you are that dumb!

[Nut44x4]

[texasmom]

NEED SOME HELP PLEASE.  I am getting bombarded with emails from LoRain trying to say that a post that I believe Kermit or Lifesong attributed to her was actually made by me.  I have explained to LoRain that she is wrong and even gave her the link in the forum where the post was made by her.  She doesn't get it and is calling me a liar.  I'm only posting all this so that you guys can get a glimps of the type of emails I receive from these people.

This is the post in question.  As you can see the post has not be edited or modified by anyone it is in it's original state as posted by LoRain:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.msg323270#msg323270


LoRain sent me this email as proof that the post was made by me.  You will see my response to her first followed by her "proof" email. 





Since then the emails I've received from LoRain are as follows:

If you'll put your thinking cap on you will realize that LIFESONG has accused YOU of undermining the MB students.....but hey....I guess that's OK too...huh?...you gonna just let this one go too I suppose.....after all you are the mod....

Then this:

You are such a liar...surely you can't be that dumb...I can read you idiot.....Why would I say it was an "old post" if I had just made it?...you can't bullshit me Klaasend...I'm not stupid...nice try though....and I'll keep posting it til you and everyone else realizes you are an idiot....

Then she emailed the post to me again...

 
NOTE TO LORAIN - I DECIDED TO POST IT ALL OUT IN THE OPEN SO EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT AN IDIOT I AM  

AND YES - THIS IS A PRIVATE EMAIL BUT I WAS PUSHED BY THE INITIATOR INTO POSTING THIS. 

LALA'SMOM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1918.msg256565

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   Re: Lively Case Discussion #667 7/27 - 7/28/2007
« Reply #748 on: July 28, 2007, 03:05:05 PM »  

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Well if Alana thought Joran had a yacht and we all know he doesn't, right?  Than maybe she was talking about Koen.  I know I am beating a dead horse here, because it's been so long, but if Joran had already singled out Natalee from the very beginning that tells me that maybe the stuff about taking her to a rave party isn't as far fetched as some think.  Maybe, as I have said all along and many monkeys too, that Natalee was indeed chosen as a target.  Maybe the reason there was a scuffle between the MB kids and Joran was because he was trying to get in her good graces to butter her up, when that didn't work they told GVC to try and get her.  I guess I am just a bit out in left field here, but Alana says that Joran had met Natalee earlier.  To me that is important.  

[jen3560]

     

Oh good!!!!!!! 

[texasmom]

NEED SOME HELP PLEASE.  I am getting bombarded with emails from LoRain trying to say that a post that I believe Kermit or Lifesong attributed to her was actually made by me.  I have explained to LoRain that she is wrong and even gave her the link in the forum where the post was made by her.  She doesn't get it and is calling me a liar.  I'm only posting all this so that you guys can get a glimps of the type of emails I receive from these people.

This is the post in question.  As you can see the post has not be edited or modified by anyone it is in it's original state as posted by LoRain:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.msg323270#msg323270


LoRain sent me this email as proof that the post was made by me.  You will see my response to her first followed by her "proof" email. 





Since then the emails I've received from LoRain are as follows:

If you'll put your thinking cap on you will realize that LIFESONG has accused YOU of undermining the MB students.....but hey....I guess that's OK too...huh?...you gonna just let this one go too I suppose.....after all you are the mod....

Then this:

You are such a liar...surely you can't be that dumb...I can read you idiot.....Why would I say it was an "old post" if I had just made it?...you can't bullshit me Klaasend...I'm not stupid...nice try though....and I'll keep posting it til you and everyone else realizes you are an idiot....

Then she emailed the post to me again...

 
NOTE TO LORAIN - I DECIDED TO POST IT ALL OUT IN THE OPEN SO EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT AN IDIOT I AM  

AND YES - THIS IS A PRIVATE EMAIL BUT I WAS PUSHED BY THE INITIATOR INTO POSTING THIS. 

LALA'SMOM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1918.msg256565

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   Re: Lively Case Discussion #667 7/27 - 7/28/2007
« Reply #748 on: July 28, 2007, 03:05:05 PM »  

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Well if Alana thought Joran had a yacht and we all know he doesn't, right?  Than maybe she was talking about Koen.  I know I am beating a dead horse here, because it's been so long, but if Joran had already singled out Natalee from the very beginning that tells me that maybe the stuff about taking her to a rave party isn't as far fetched as some think.  Maybe, as I have said all along and many monkeys too, that Natalee was indeed chosen as a target.  Maybe the reason there was a scuffle between the MB kids and Joran was because he was trying to get in her good graces to butter her up, when that didn't work they told GVC to try and get her.  I guess I am just a bit out in left field here, but Alana says that Joran had met Natalee earlier.  To me that is important.  

LoRain COPIED the post I guess in Dec 2007, BUT OF COURSE DID NOT PROVIDE A LINK TO WHO ORIGINALLY POSTED IT!

[jen3560]

My point is - 12/20 was the first day of the search.

12/20 they emailed the correct dimensions of the cage to the 'cage builder'.

CapsLockWizard's first FP post was on the evening 12/20.


They picked up the model cage the morning of the 12/21.

Anonimo's first FP post was on the night of 12/21.


I wonder who made the cage, as well as which day they met with "the detective and his brother".

Maybe one of these construction companies?  They would have ready access to the materials required for such a task...

MARCELINO VROLIJK RENTAL EQUIPMENT *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  15123/000
 
MARCO VROLIJK CONTRACTOR *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11203/000
 
VROLIJK BEDRIJF *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11067/000
 
VROLIJK CARPINTE SHOP *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  11704/000
 
VROLIJK CONSTRUCTION *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  5231/000
 
VROLIJK HEAVY EQUIPMENT
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  30102/000

Wow is everyone named VROLIJK?

Could be a very productive line of thought that LifeSong had, eh?

[Blue Moon]

Excuse me, but I have been hurling my lunch! I just read from Anna about a "sex party" with Jossy and Julia present.   

I don't know which is funnier - wreck hurling his lunch. or the visual of Jossy shak'n his booty with Julia at a sex party.

My stomach had settled -- thanks a lot! 

Hey, don't blame me!  That was one of CapsLockWizard's Theori du jours!  He actually posted that and claimed poor Joran just dropped Natalee off at this sex party with Jossy and Julia and when she was returned to him, she had already expired!  And Julia got the whole thing on film.

He posted that right here in this forum and his minions did eat it right up, yum!  And furthermore,it was at those apartments the Kalpoes' parents don't own.

Yet those who questioned were the ones to get the rolling eyes and snarky remarks. 

It was Twilight Zone time for sure!

  I know it wasn't your theory!  Just seeing "sex party" and the names Jossy and Julia mentioned -- gave me the "hinkys"! 

 

[Keepthefaith]

Kermit - I really don't care about what medications anyone is on or not and I don't care what they do for a living.  I just want people to be able to read and comprehend THEIR OWN POSTS.   

I know, I'm sorry you are bombarded by WHACKADOODELS!

Sometimes ya gotta just laugh at some people's LOGIC..

[Lifesong]

Speaking of undermining the Mountain Brook students:


358     Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Re: Natalee Case Discussion #708 12/28
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.msg323303#msg323303

Hotshot on December 30, 2007, 08:00:38 PM

LoRain on December 30, 2007, 07:49:08 PM

LoRain on December 30, 2007, 07:02:23 PM

Well if Alana thought Joran had a yacht and we all know he doesn't, right?  Than maybe she was talking about Koen.  I know I am beating a dead horse here, because it's been so long, but if Joran had already singled out Natalee from the very beginning that tells me that maybe the stuff about taking her to a rave party isn't as far fetched as some think.  Maybe, as I have said all along and many monkeys too, that Natalee was indeed chosen as a target.  Maybe the reason there was a scuffle between the MB kids and Joran was because he was trying to get in her good graces to butter her up, when that didn't work they told GVC to try and get her.  I guess I am just a bit out in left field here, but Alana says that Joran had met Natalee earlier.  To me that is important. 
 
 
Forgive me for bringing up such an old post but I was wondering if it was ever decided when Natalee met Joran?  Thanks....

Does anyone have an answer to the above or should I quit thinking on it?

Alana says for a few days.  Everyone else says the previous night.  Can't answer that for sure.

Klaas,

I'm sure this is the post LoRain is taking exception to.  However, as far as I know, this person has not been banned from posting here.

So, LoRain, if you have a question about something I post here, please post in response to ME, don't email Klaas.  She has no idea what I'm thinking when I post.  I don't check with her first and she's never asked me to.

I also take the time to document and link anything I post that is not just my opinion.  Surely you've noticied that, eh?  Did you even click on the frickin' link I posted in that original post above before you started emailing Klaas?

I stand by the post above. 

 

[Kermit]

My point is - 12/20 was the first day of the search.

12/20 they emailed the correct dimensions of the cage to the 'cage builder'.

CapsLockWizard's first FP post was on the evening 12/20.


They picked up the model cage the morning of the 12/21.

Anonimo's first FP post was on the night of 12/21.


I wonder who made the cage, as well as which day they met with "the detective and his brother".

Maybe one of these construction companies?  They would have ready access to the materials required for such a task...

MARCELINO VROLIJK RENTAL EQUIPMENT *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  15123/000
 
MARCO VROLIJK CONTRACTOR *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11203/000
 
VROLIJK BEDRIJF *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11067/000
 
VROLIJK CARPINTE SHOP *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  11704/000
 
VROLIJK CONSTRUCTION *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  5231/000
 
VROLIJK HEAVY EQUIPMENT
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  30102/000

Wow is everyone named VROLIJK?

Could be a very productive line of thought that LifeSong had, eh?

yes

[klaasend]

So Lala's made the original post in July 2007.  LoRain copied the exact post of Lala's and basically posted it as her own without attribution to Lala's:

First posted by Lala's:




Second posting by LoRain:




ZERO POSTS BY KLAASEND

[jen3560]

My point is - 12/20 was the first day of the search.

12/20 they emailed the correct dimensions of the cage to the 'cage builder'.

CapsLockWizard's first FP post was on the evening 12/20.


They picked up the model cage the morning of the 12/21.

Anonimo's first FP post was on the night of 12/21.


I wonder who made the cage, as well as which day they met with "the detective and his brother".

Maybe one of these construction companies?  They would have ready access to the materials required for such a task...

MARCELINO VROLIJK RENTAL EQUIPMENT *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  15123/000
 
MARCO VROLIJK CONTRACTOR *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11203/000
 
VROLIJK BEDRIJF *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  11067/000
 
VROLIJK CARPINTE SHOP *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  11704/000
 
VROLIJK CONSTRUCTION *
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [SMALL/RESIDENTIAL]  5231/000
 
VROLIJK HEAVY EQUIPMENT
BUILDING CONTRACTORS [LARGE/INDUSTRIAL]  30102/000

Wow is everyone named VROLIJK?

Could be a very productive line of thought that LifeSong had, eh?

yes

I need an address from you dear.  I think you know whose I mean..........can you email it to me?

I'm going to do some registry checking tonight.

[Anna]

Do we have this in our PI collection:


 Re: Natalee Case Discussion #708 12/28
« Reply #897 on: December 30, 2007, 06:30:32 PM » 

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They will have dateline onboard and I understand that they were involved in the Titantic so I assume they have the expertise to preserve any remains or artifacts and have a protocol. They can always find and locate it, call for assistance and then retrieve it. But that is my fear that they imediately turn it over to Aruba where her remains can become that of a large crab:)



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.880

[klaasend]

Lifesong - LoRain has been banned from SM.  I just couldn't take it any longer.  She was banned for things she was saying about SM over at GM.