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« Reply #740 on: October 30, 2006, 07:40:57 PM »

"WTF is this………..Some cop down there named Halley was seen by an eye witness taking a body out of the sand dunes before the inital search. This eye witness statement was taped and given to the police by Art Wood. And now they dont know wtf people are talking about. I had never heard this before reading into the case files. Now we know for sure that the cover up is for real just in case you had any doubt……….I didnt!"

Comment by airgame12 | October 30, 2006, 4:36 pm


ALE and Officials are liars and corrupted, this statement above proves it to me they are covering up.

If Joran and Kalpoe brothers were innocent they would not of lied in the beginning, nor would they still continue to lie or have inconsistancies.
People who have something to hide lie or fabricate stories to cover-up for the crimes they themselves comment. And that's a proven fact.
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« Reply #741 on: October 30, 2006, 07:42:57 PM »

I do not think that Joran, Deepak and Satish are smart enought to do this... dipose without leaving a trace.
But because Paulus van der Sloot was looking on the computer for drugs, alcohol and lawyers before the family got there, he knew.
He would do anything to protect Joran and I believe he did.  
Why was he having so many meetings with Jan Van Der Stratten ?  
It would be easy to get a boat on Aruba and dispose of anything.
And I believe that Paulus did this with the help of a friend or two. Ben Voking, aka Ben King comes to mind.
Before Natalee was reported missing that Monday, we know nothing about the wherabouts of any of them.
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« Reply #742 on: October 30, 2006, 07:43:09 PM »

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Please tell us why you seem so convinced that Joran is not guilty. ?

-To me it just doesnt make sense that a 17yr old boy and his father would commit such a good disapearrance, and if the father was so "smart" like you guys say, and than his son lie so easy to the police. if they can commit such a proffesional dissapearance then it must be easy to tell a perfect lie, because like you guys say he and his father are "smart" and knew the law.

-and i spoke with joran and it looked like he was telling the truth (im not a proffesional cop that i can see when somebody is lying or not, but im not really bad at it)

And what does make sense to me is that somebody else who is super smart or who have more experience did it, and somebody else get all the blame. that would be a perfect crime for that person.

And that he didnt immediatly searched for natalee etc. etc. most are facts but that doesnt make him guilty, altough its suspicious.

(i dont say that joran is guilty, i also dont say that he's unguilty)
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« Reply #743 on: October 30, 2006, 07:49:36 PM »

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Please tell us why you seem so convinced that Joran is not guilty. ?

-To me it just doesnt make sense that a 17yr old boy and his father would commit such a good disapearrance, and if the father was so "smart" like you guys say, and than his son lie so easy to the police. if they can commit such a proffesional dissapearance then it must be easy to tell a perfect lie, because like you guys say he and his father are "smart" and knew the law.

-and i spoke with joran and it looked like he was telling the truth (im not a proffesional cop that i can see when somebody is lying or not, but im not really bad at it)

And what does make sense to me is that somebody else who is super smart or who have more experience did it, and somebody else get all the blame. that would be a perfect crime for that person.

And that he didnt immediatly searched for natalee etc. etc. most are facts but that doesnt make him guilty, altough its suspicious.

(i dont say that joran is guilty, i also dont say that he's unguilty)

I would say someone with experience to make this happen would be Posner.  He has a lot of experience at this.
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« Reply #744 on: October 30, 2006, 07:50:53 PM »

i dont know Posner
but what did he do then?? (did he already make body dissapear)
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« Reply #745 on: October 30, 2006, 07:51:11 PM »

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Please tell us why you seem so convinced that Joran is not guilty. ?

-To me it just doesnt make sense that a 17yr old boy and his father would commit such a good disapearrance, and if the father was so "smart" like you guys say, and than his son lie so easy to the police. if they can commit such a proffesional dissapearance then it must be easy to tell a perfect lie, because like you guys say he and his father are "smart" and knew the law.

-and i spoke with joran and it looked like he was telling the truth (im not a proffesional cop that i can see when somebody is lying or not, but im not really bad at it)

And what does make sense to me is that somebody else who is super smart or who have more experience did it, and somebody else get all the blame. that would be a perfect crime for that person.

And that he didnt immediatly searched for natalee etc. etc. most are facts but that doesnt make him guilty, altough its suspicious.

(i dont say that joran is guilty, i also dont say that he's unguilty)

I really do think that none of these ppl set out to murder anyone.
It was not a planned murder.
But, somehow, Joran screwed up and Paulus came to the rescue.
Joran's parents also tried too hard to portray Joran an an upstanding young man. From his own statements, we find out how much he drinks. Probably has blackouts. Steals from his parents. Lies to them. And is not the person his parents want him and view him as.
Some of the damage was done, that is why there is so many lies and inconsistencies.
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« Reply #746 on: October 30, 2006, 07:53:28 PM »

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i dont know Posner
but what did he do then?? (did he already make body dissapear)


Yes, you had better back peddle away from 'Posner'. We don't wanna see you wind up in a body bag.   Confused
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« Reply #747 on: October 30, 2006, 07:59:33 PM »

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i dont know Posner
but what did he do then?? (did he already make body dissapear)

I would say from Posner's days in Chicago he made plenty of bodies disappear.  And he probably had a good nights sleep after doing so.
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« Reply #748 on: October 30, 2006, 08:00:31 PM »

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i dont know Posner
but what did he do then?? (did he already make body dissapear)

I would say from Posner's days in Chicago he made plenty of bodies disappear.  And he probably had a good nights sleep after doing so.

okeej but was he sentenced guilty?
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« Reply #749 on: October 30, 2006, 08:07:15 PM »

Kawish, I am making an assumption here... that you can't see it because YOU would not behave that way. Joran was defined a ' sociopath" by the Dutch behaviour specialists who came over to Aruba. That means that
he doesn't think or feel like the rest of us do. There is no regard for anyone other than self. I am going to leave it at that.
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I hope that you have a different outlook on life and that you do well in your studies and achieve everything you wish to.
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If you did not care, you would not be sitting at your computer taking your time with this. K
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« Reply #750 on: October 30, 2006, 08:18:48 PM »

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Kawish, I am making an assumption here... that you can't see it because YOU would not behave that way. Joran was defined a ' sociopath" by the Dutch behaviour specialists who came over to Aruba. That means that
he doesn't think or feel like the rest of us do. There is no regard for anyone other than self. I am going to leave it at that.
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I hope that you have a different outlook on life and that you do well in your studies and achieve everything you wish to.
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If you did not care, you would not be sitting at your computer taking your time with this. K

i do care that the case is solved but till now its not solved. (but i personally think that in usa the ppl are believing the media a lot...i think thats its proven that cnn broadcasted things that were even false about the case.)
and like you guys said that i dont know natalee and dont know how nice she is, is totaly true. but you guys also dont know pvds personally, in real life he's very nice. and yeh if your going to research things about him then yeh theres a change that you found something bad.

also somebody posted that my family has a bad reputation on the island....but you guys only see that. But you dont hear how much money we donate to good charities and how many ppl we help. and all the good things we do. You guys only post all the bad stuff. (dont take it personally...but its my opinion)
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« Reply #751 on: October 30, 2006, 08:19:33 PM »

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i dont know Posner
but what did he do then?? (did he already make body dissapear)

I would say from Posner's days in Chicago he made plenty of bodies disappear.  And he probably had a good nights sleep after doing so.

okeej but was he sentenced guilty?


He was in jail on other charges.
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« Reply #752 on: October 30, 2006, 08:23:34 PM »

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Kawish, I am making an assumption here... that you can't see it because YOU would not behave that way. Joran was defined a ' sociopath" by the Dutch behaviour specialists who came over to Aruba. That means that
he doesn't think or feel like the rest of us do. There is no regard for anyone other than self. I am going to leave it at that.
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I hope that you have a different outlook on life and that you do well in your studies and achieve everything you wish to.
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If you did not care, you would not be sitting at your computer taking your time with this. K

i do care that the case is solved but till now its not solved. (but i personally think that in usa the ppl are believing the media a lot...i think thats its proven that cnn broadcasted things that were even false about the case.)
and like you guys said that i dont know natalee and dont know how nice she is, is totaly true. but you guys also dont know pvds personally, in real life he's very nice. and yeh if your going to research things about him then yeh theres a change that you found something bad.

also somebody posted that my family has a bad reputation on the island....but you guys only see that. But you dont hear how much money we donate to good charities and how many ppl we help. and all the good things we do. You guys only post all the bad stuff. (dont take it personally...but its my opinion)


Ok, what bad stuff did we get from CNN?

Just reading the J2K 'statements' and the one in car recorded conversation
it is quite obvious the 3 amigos were more involved in something than you are willing to agree on.
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« Reply #753 on: October 30, 2006, 08:23:54 PM »

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i dont know Posner
but what did he do then?? (did he already make body dissapear)

I would say from Posner's days in Chicago he made plenty of bodies disappear.  And he probably had a good nights sleep after doing so.

okeej but was he sentenced guilty?


He was in jail on other charges.

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« Reply #754 on: October 30, 2006, 08:25:11 PM »

i dont exactly know what i was on cnn.

with what were they more involved?
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« Reply #755 on: October 30, 2006, 08:27:04 PM »

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i dont exactly know what i was on cnn.

with what were they more involved?


Guess you have to read the signed statements to understand what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #756 on: October 30, 2006, 08:28:35 PM »

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i dont exactly know what i was on cnn.

with what were they more involved?


Guess you have to read the signed statements to understand what I'm talking about.

i think i read the one in the car.
satish said: "shut your trap", right?
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« Reply #757 on: October 30, 2006, 08:31:01 PM »

kbm - what months in 2005 did you say you weren't in Aruba?  TIA
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« Reply #758 on: October 30, 2006, 08:31:31 PM »

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Kawish, I am making an assumption here... that you can't see it because YOU would not behave that way. Joran was defined a ' sociopath" by the Dutch behaviour specialists who came over to Aruba. That means that
he doesn't think or feel like the rest of us do. There is no regard for anyone other than self. I am going to leave it at that.
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I hope that you have a different outlook on life and that you do well in your studies and achieve everything you wish to.
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If you did not care, you would not be sitting at your computer taking your time with this. K


I so agree with Kat on this. My computer crashed last night and I lost all my links so cant give you a link to find out about Michael Posner but I am sure you can do a search. Posner is Mafia. Are you familiar with that term? If not organizd crime.

There has been a lot of serial killers here in the US. One of our most famous ones was known as the BTK killer. He was finally arrested maybe in just the last year or so. His real name was Dennis Rader. A very respected man. A church member, a dog catcher a good neighbor a husband and father. But he had been killing for many years. So again I ask you to keep an open mind.

Next have you ever seen the Chicago videos? If so what is your impression of them? Can you figure out what those are showing us?
Thanks for your imput.
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« Reply #759 on: October 30, 2006, 08:32:55 PM »

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kbm - what months in 2005 did you say you weren't in Aruba?  TIA
jan,feb,march,april,may,june Razz  Razz why?
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