Haleigh Marie Cummings #8 3/18/09 - 3/23/09

[Brandi]

Took me two hours to type all that up. Some parts were inaudible.

That was so nice of you, scooter.

Thanks!!!

 

[lilymarie]

On one hand I want to say that Misty's afraid of Ron but on the other hand she is playing him like a banjo....?? He threatens to put a pistol in her mouth yet she feels comfortable threatening to leave him if he doesn't do this and that....WHAT IS GOING ON???

[Wyks]

Listening to that recording of Cobra solidifies to me that Ron is totally capable of killing Misty and then himself too.  If he has anything to do with the disappearance of Haleigh, he will do something stupid before he goes to jail, IMO.

He may not kill himself, but I wouldn't doubt he could kill the person/s he feels are responsible for whatever happened to the little girl.  I think he's a ticking time bomb and although I don't know nearly enough about Crystal and how she is at this point in her life, as I said before, it can't be worse than Ron's life and situation. 

I think Crystal is doing the right thing regarding custody and until Haleigh is found and LE knows what exactly went on, Jr. should NOT be anywhere near Ron or his family, IMO. 

Scary, how very possible it is that Ron might do that, O4Bull.  Vigilante style, based on who 'he thinks' had a hand in Haleigh's disappearance, including Misty for being the one who 'let his daughter get stole'.  So many innocent folks could be included in this.  I sure do hope that LE reins Ron in and watches him like a hawk!  Just in case...

[Wyks]

Wyks...great post, and yes that could be what Ron is doing, I just don't know. But one thing I do know, and that is threatning to put a pistol in someone's mouth, and the threatning statements on the 911 call, makes me seriously wonder, why is Jr with him? He is like a ticking time bomb, and when and if he goes off, I would not want to be in his path.

Thanks NoRose!  Good points here, and I agree!  Am thinking that LE needs to step in at once, just in case.  Otherwise, we just might have a situation where later folks will be saying, 'you knew this could happen and did nothing!'. 
 

[Wyks]

On one hand I want to say that Misty's afraid of Ron but on the other hand she is playing him like a banjo....?? He threatens to put a pistol in her mouth yet she feels comfortable threatening to leave him if he doesn't do this and that....WHAT IS GOING ON???

Exactly!!!   

Wonder if they have major stuff on each other? 

[GramaMonkey]

Took me two hours to type all that up. Some parts were inaudible.

Thanks Scuter for doing that transcribing. 

 

[Heart]

Took me two hours to type all that up. Some parts were inaudible.

Thank you Scuterputer.  Great work!  And it is good to have it in black and white.

You scutered that puter 

[klaasend]

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/20/haleigh-cummings-case-the-new-bounty-hunter-cobra/

Haleigh Cummings Case: The NEW Bounty Hunter “COBRA”

[no rose colored glasses]

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/20/haleigh-cummings-case-the-new-bounty-hunter-cobra/

Haleigh Cummings Case: The NEW Bounty Hunter “COBRA”

Thanks, I honestly don't know what to think about this. I'm questioning the motives of Cobra after this, because it doesn't make sense to me to release it, but who knows maybe there is a reason.

[Brandi]

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/20/haleigh-cummings-case-the-new-bounty-hunter-cobra/

Haleigh Cummings Case: The NEW Bounty Hunter “COBRA”

Blink has a good summary, and offers the mp3 of Cobra there.

When asked by Cobra why he would marry her if he knew she was with this “white boy Greg” Ronald Cummings replied “You keep your friends close you keep your enemies closer.”  <--- that has me thinking a lot today.

[Brandi]

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/20/haleigh-cummings-case-the-new-bounty-hunter-cobra/

Haleigh Cummings Case: The NEW Bounty Hunter “COBRA”

Thanks, I honestly don't know what to think about this. I'm questioning the motives of Cobra after this, because it doesn't make sense to me to release it, but who knows maybe there is a reason.

I think it is to shake Misty up ...scare her into telling all she knows.

[Heart]

With this audio interview, at first listen, it can be taken that Ron (despite his past and present) could actually be the heartbroken father, who may know nothing about Haleigh's disappearance.  Seems like Misty has been backed into the corner (with all her inconsistencies) by Cobra, he called her out (in the form of a reenactment of that night) she accepted and then wouldn't do it, not showing up.  Ron showed up tho.  Misty began acting like a trapped rat in a cage, calling Ron like 10+ times just while he was sitting there drinking some sweet tea with Cobra.  Ron lets Cobra listen to the calls.  Misty trying to get Ron the heck away from Cobra.  Cuz she knows she's trapped.  Misty threatens Ron that she will leave him, yada yada.  Ron runs to her, but not before telling Cobra that he would shove a gun in her mouth.  Cobra trying to calm Ron down. 

Ya know what?  On the one hand, it DOES seem that Ron *could be* the innocent in all this, with righteous anger that anyone, even Misty, would take his daughter, his heart.  Seems that he is co-operating with Cobra, as in letting him listen to what Misty was saying.  Hopefully he is listening to Cobra and will not harm Misty in trying to get her to tell him the truth.  Hopefully Jr. won't be in the middle of all that, if it goes down badly.   

Having said all that...  *what if* Ron is playing Cobra to make it 'seem' he's the totally innocent heartbroken father who knows nothing cuz he was at work?  To make it 'seem' that Misty is the heartless biotch who let his daughter get stole?  What if in reality, Misty had been out on a three day bender or something, Ron brought her back home, and said something like I'm gonna make you pay someday. 

First opportunity out the gate... Misty is tired from her weekend, she does stuff in the house and got the kids to bed, could have left the lights on and the door wide open, she passes out.  <insert here whatever happened to Haleigh, by whoever> Waking up to Haleigh being gone, and actually remembers nuttin.  Ron gets home and threatens her with her life if she opens her mouth, cuz maybe he knows who did what to Haleigh and isn't gonna say, and is gonna do some vigilante justice?  I dunno.   But he doesn't want to lose custody of Jr (and Haleigh should she return home alive), all because Misty was passed the hell out while on HIS watch. 

Could have said to Misty, biotch said I'd make you pay.. you keep your mouth shut so I don't lose Jr too, and we play like we don't know what the heck happened.  Marries her to try and ensure her silence, along with other reasons. 

Cobra seems to have seen straight thru Misty and has got her backed into the corner.  If Ron is not as innocent as he seems to be, could Cobra see right thru him too?  Hehe...

Just presenting another possible view of this... 

Good post Wyks!


Having said all that...  *what if* Ron is playing Cobra to make it 'seem' he's the totally innocent heartbroken father who knows nothing cuz he was at work?

Could be Wyks.  What if both Ron and Misty are playing Cobra?  Why is Ron letting Cobra listen in to all his incoming phone calls?  And I still don't get the marriage part of this if Ron thinks that Misty has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

[Idgie]

Took me two hours to type all that up. Some parts were inaudible.

Thank you SP that was a lot of work and is appreciated.

[Jerseygirl345]

On one hand I want to say that Misty's afraid of Ron but on the other hand she is playing him like a banjo....?? He threatens to put a pistol in her mouth yet she feels comfortable threatening to leave him if he doesn't do this and that....WHAT IS GOING ON???

Exactly!!!   

Wonder if they have major stuff on each other? 

Thats what I am thinking they both have incriminating stuff on each other.....

[klaasend]

Unofficial Transcript:

Cobra is speaking the entire time:
"In this case, I would have had a perfect reenactment with Misty, she was uh very much eager to do it, but then what screwed it up on Monday night which would have been a perfect time to do it but Nancy graces people went out there and did the Ronald interview, which I asked them NOT to and I asked NOT to uh jump the gun on it of course they jumped the gun on it and forced us out that night. They gave her time to think about it. "

"And Tuesday, Ronald invited me to the vigil, I went over there, and I really don't like them things, but I went over there and it was kinda eye opening. Everybody in the room uh about 70 people, and I explained to all them on tape what I wanna do.  I think the press has this kinda wrong about where you in this room, were you in this room, did you do this, did you do this, and what I wanna do Misty is go through each step, as close as you can recall it as to exactly how it went. And if you are willing to do that, I will close this case. Absolutely close it beyond any doubt.  Ronald says "You're doing this." She says "Absolutely." And in front of all the people it was absolute.  "

"Then we left there and Ronald says "Lets get something to eat. " I said "Yes I don't want to do this until it gets closer to 3 o'clock in the morning but I don't want to keep you out here so we will do it at 11:00 o'clock it'll be just as dark and it'll be nice and crisp, the dew will have fallen, everything else, I mean it was being put together forensencly as well as what she was saying.  I had some specialists that were coming in, uh, behind the scenes in the dark who knew half the sh*t I had planned out. "
So uh, it turns out uh, Ronald comes in late around 8:30 or so at MeMaws, and we sit here at MeMaws and discussin how we're gonna (inaudible). I (Cobra) ask "where's misty?" (Ronald) "Oh shes getting Cold on this." (Cobra) "What do you mean shes getting cold on it?" (Ronald) "I don't think shes gonna do it man."

(Cobra) I say "What? We just left there, and was going to go do it. Now whats changed her mind?" (Ronald) "Man I am going to try to get her there." (Cobra) "Well she needs to do this. Man, we need to get this cleared up." He's in full agreement. So all the sudden she starts calling him. Saying, "Get the hell away from him." (Ron) "What?" and he turns the phone (inaudible)

We actually drank from the same, I kept the plastic cup, we were drinking sweet tea at MeMaws, kicked back like two hillbillys talking. And he allows me to listen to all the phone calls he has received. Probably about ten of them occurred while we tried to eat. I was eating (inaudible) that he wasn't gonna eat. So we were drinking ice tea and talking. And it expanded into her threatening to leave him, threatening to go away, she ain't coming back, if you get the hell away from that d@mn guy, meaning me, she don't trust me, blah blah blah.

And she started setting up premise to that before we left the vigil saying "I really don't remember" and this. And I should have told her "Listen b*tch, you know exactly what the hell you did, you are lying,  and I want you to just come clean. But I said "That’s ok Mama, I understand, theres a time when yanno, can skip those spots and we will fill those blanks in after we go through it all. Maybe the reconstruction of the crime scene will help you understand." And all the people looking at her said that’s a good idea." She was like, I dunno if it was peer pressure, but she would not look at me, she wasn't sittin, shedding a tear, I was in tears, while we were doing the vigil. My son was in tears, everybody in that room was in tears, except her.

Yanno I wouldn't wanna say it live, but I wanna say I saw her grinning a little bit.  It wasn't a very good (inaudible).

what we have come up with is that she wasn't there. We was believe she was off with somebody else, she came back to the house, that’s why she can't tell it anymore because. We, I got other guys up here right now, trying to find, there's at least three or four guys, "white boy greg" is at the top of the list, because Ronald, I heard rumors,  but then Ronald told me, flat out that uh, on Sunday, that yeah. And I am going to be quite frank with you, and you might have to cut it. Quote, unquote.

I said Ronald, I have a very difficult question to ask you, about your now wife.  It appears one week before Haliegh came up missing, she was.  And Ronald told me to "stop right there, I know what you are going to ask me, yes was she f*cking a black guy? Yes, how do I feel about her f*cking a black guy? I know this, if I didn't marry her, I would never, you hear me? What do you do to your enemies?"  I said (Cobra) "You keep them close." Ronald says "Exactly, and if I didn't marry her, I don't know where in the hell my, where am I going to look for my son? (Cobra meant to say daughter)."

This particular night, she continued to call Memaws, on Tuesday night, saying you need to call, and shes threatening to leave, shes going to go here, and shes going to go there.  Ronald says "man I got to go." I said "Damn shes got you on the run don't she?" He said "Yeah".

I said, "well you know what time it is". And I have been very fair, leveled the playing field, on both sides of the family, I talked to them just as plain, because if it don't make sense, just easy going stuff.   I said Ronald, my goal is to find Haleigh.  And I thought that would be your goal, misty's goal, and everybody elses goal.  Apparently its everybodys goal, except mistys.  So this kinda gives me an answer, as to where I needed to conduct my investigation come wendsay morning. 

You can believe I am going to the sheriff, and you can believe I am going to try to get her charged with obstruction of justice, and you can believe I am going to try to get her charged with child endangerment.  And hopefully they put a million dollar bond on her, and then guess what, she aint walking out of nowhere then.

Ronald says good, and "You know, I should just go over there now and stick my damn pistol in her mouth because I am tired of this bullsh*t".  Then I said "Ronald…you can't do that sh*t."

He kinda got that from me walking in the woods with my son, at 4:30 in the morning after being down there about four days, and about 8 hours of sleep over a four day period. My son asked me, if "Would you do this," I've got five kids, "Daddy would you look this hard if it was one of us?"  And I said "Absolutely not."  and that freaked him out, he said "WHAT?" and I said "No, the first person I run into and started with this story "Uhhh, eee..blah blah blah" I would find out right then and there. *inaudible*" So I said that, and I think from there, Ronald got jacked up.

So then Ronald and I went outside to my truck, to get away from everybody else, and uh told me real personal stuff, that was different from this, which I am not at liberty to tell you because it is confidential.  And he asked me to keep it that way.

So I said "Lets watch a movie." So we went to the you tube site, where we watched the tank and *inaudible* necessary evil, that’s me and my partner going after a child molester, and what we do when we catch up to one, kick in the door and go all apesh*t. And Ronald goes "send that in to me right now, I'll call your partner and tell him to come up here and I am going to give him a list of a couple of names, and I want him to go….
(Cobra interrups Ron) "Hey we can't go like than man, there will be a time to go kickin in doors and all that stuff. Ronald goes "Man I am going home and stick that pistol in her mouth and be done with it.(?)"

I said, Listen Man,   don't go do that sh*t. Ronald says "I'll call you at 11 o'clock." I said "Calm down, call me at 11 o'clock." Call's me at 11 o'clock, and he is off the chain. They are going "blah blah blah" 50 mph with each other. So I tried to reach out to the contacts I have, the sheriff, and a couple of FDLE guys, you know, John Merchant and said "Listen, I am afraid, that tonight, that a) Misty is going to hit it and take off or uh Crazy old Ronald done lost his mind, and he wasn't drinking he was straight, and hes going to go over there and do something, and if something should happen, I don't want to get in trouble. So I am bringing this to the attention of law enforcement.

Well I had to go through dispatch and told them to talk to me, but I didn't back out of Palatka. *inaudible* 309. I met with the Sargent, who uh dispatched 3 more cars, and we went out to his aunties place, at the 711/citgo there, and two officers after a period of time said "*inaudible* now, its time to get that done." So I figured, around 2ish, the police report was non founded, they wrote it off as non founded, just to keep the press guys at bay. They went there for a wellness check, based on my concerns that uh, either a shes going to take off, and shes key to this investigation at this moment, and she needs to be straightened out as far as, whats going on.  Shes derailed the whole investigation by her lying and I didn't want Ronald to blow her head off,  and now the whole damn family is messed up.

So to avoid that, and make sure that we didn't have that, we went and did a wellness check with the sheriffs department, which came back as non founded, who knows what they said behind, and I don't know what hes talking about, because now him and misty is together again.  When you separate the two of them its always hell on wheels, so we left there and I have not heard, Ronald was supposed to go yesterday, to a meeting with John Merchant, then he was going to call me and tell me what he needed checked out. He had something he thought he had a serious clue he wanted me checking into. I have yet, its 3 o'clock now Thursday and I have yet to hear from him Since that night of all that damn confusion.

Its pretty painful though, I had it right on the verge of it cracking, she knew I had her, she knew she was done, Ronald knew she was done, Ronalds convinced beyond any shadow of doubt that she was not there.  That possibly she was out screwing around with White Boy Greg and that’s the name that has been given to me by several folks, and confirmed was her lover by her husband now, Ronald.

WOW - thank you!  That was alot of work!

[Jerseygirl345]

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- A van that investigators seized in the search for evidence in the Haleigh Cummings case has been returned.

Misty Croslin Cummings' sister-in-law now has her mini-van back.

Misty was the last person to see 5-year-old Haleigh before she disappeared.

According to Misty's mother, Lisa Croslin, her daughter-in-law noticed a scratch along the side of the van the night of day after Haleigh disappeared.

Investigators seized the vehicle.

Captain Dick Schauland with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said the technicians at the FDLE lab did not find any information on the van that is linked to the Haliegh Cummings' case.


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134179&catid=3

[no rose colored glasses]

Maybe Ron got all friendly with Cobra, to find out what Cobra all knows.

[no rose colored glasses]

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- A van that investigators seized in the search for evidence in the Haleigh Cummings case has been returned.

Misty Croslin Cummings' sister-in-law now has her mini-van back.

Misty was the last person to see 5-year-old Haleigh before she disappeared.

According to Misty's mother, Lisa Croslin, her daughter-in-law noticed a scratch along the side of the van the night of day after Haleigh disappeared.

Investigators seized the vehicle.

Captain Dick Schauland with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said the technicians at the FDLE lab did not find any information on the van that is linked to the Haliegh Cummings' case.


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134179&catid=3

Thanks, interesting. But what I'm really finding interesting is nobody has any info on this Greg character. Where does he live, his age, nothing. 

[GramaMonkey]

MISTY Knows...and I am sure that Ron knows all about this Greg.  Cobra said that Ron told him some personal things, so maybe he gave out some info on Greg.

[Sleepless in Florida]

On one hand I want to say that Misty's afraid of Ron but on the other hand she is playing him like a banjo....?? He threatens to put a pistol in her mouth yet she feels comfortable threatening to leave him if he doesn't do this and that....WHAT IS GOING ON???

Exactly!!!   

Wonder if they have major stuff on each other? 

Judging from what we have heard about Ron and Misty's life style, it very likely they both have some dirt on each other.