Haleigh Marie Cummings #8 3/18/09 - 3/23/09

[Heart]

Video of Cobra 3/20/09
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/default.aspx

[TxLady2]

Hello Monkeys, I dont beleive Ronald was pimping anybody out, but what  I beleive is he was still stuck in his teenage years instead of acting responcible for the children he had and being a man, he contunued on with his bad boy attitude and his ways of chasing teenage girls and he just happened to hook up with Mistie and then she being the teenager that she is continued on with the way she had been livng after Ronald left everyday for work.  Theres no telling what has gone on in the afternoon every day after Ronald left, how many guys might have had access to these children that came over to just "kick it" with Mistie...or how many times Mistie put these kids to bed and then hightailed it outta there looking for some fun..........This stuff gets around fast in a small town and so therefore there's no telling how many people knew that the kids would likely be alone at night or that Mistie was likely to be high or drunk or both......

  Thats why Ronald should have left these kids with the GM, he already knew about Mistie's running around and staying out and stuff, he is just as responcible for not making sure these kids were safe.  He shoulnt have assumed that just because he left Mistie there with 2 kids that she was gonna stay right there, you dont take that kinda chance with your children,     It makes me mad everytime I hear him say that part about the better parent crap.....ask him if the Judge knew when he gave them those kids that he would have a teenager staying with them all night, or if he knew that the girl staying with them was a little floosey that ran wild,   I bet he didnt.........Those poor kids............

I agree with you, HH. I can't believe a barely 17 y.o. girl would be content babysitting two kids 24/7, while he works 10 hours and then sleeps the rest of the time. It's just not natural. She would want to go out, have fun, not be tied down with two kids and keeping house.
I've heard her comment that she and Haleigh "did makeup and hair together." Sounds like she played with them more than anything else. Anybody ever stop to think... she's just 12 years older than Haleigh. Not a good recommendation for "mommy."

[GramaMonkey]

Question?  We saw how Misty looked to Ron for the answer when she was asked why she gave conflicting statements as to what happened the night went missing...her infamous response was: "I don't know". 

IF Ron has that kind of control (what should be said)...then I'm wondering if he is in major control of the entire situation? 

He immediately, during the 911 call, threatened to shoot anyone who took his child.  The very first I heard him say that made me wonder if he thought he knew who it might be. 

He also sounds to me like he's used to getting his way through threats and intimidation.

I'm wondering if he and Misty (just like a lot of other monkeys have wondered) really are covering for each other because they each have something on each other. 

What could it be that Misty would have on Ron that would marry her (he's never married any of the others) to keep her from telling on him?  Just guessing here...drug dealing??? If that were the case, then Ron could surely have a lot of enemies...IMO

Well.. I can think of sev things that Misty *could have* on Ron.  Seems to be heavier than possible drug dealing tho, cuz it seems that from all his prev charges being dismissed, that LE knows pretty much what is up with Ron on all that. 

With the way that Ron's family has gotten behind him and Misty with so very much, and so very vocal about it, incl with inconsistencies of their own.. My guess is that whatever it might be that Misty may have on Ron, might just include info on his family as well. 

And we know that Ron's mom works for LE. 
So could the silence that Ron seems to want, NEED, from Misty, perhaps be about some sort of LE coverup that his entire family incl LE doesn't want to get out there?
 

I think there has DEFINITELY been some string pulling that has gone on and naturally, I wonder if it has to do with Ron's mom's connection to LE.

What I'm wondering is if maybe there are things that he is desperately trying to keep from his family?     I'm just not sure.

Was Ron's mom involved in LE around the time that he was given custody?  How on earth he got custody is absolutely beyond me.   If what Crystal said is true, I find it interesting that the girlfriend after her shared her opinion that Ron was abusive with the kids.   Thinking of a hothead like Ron dealing with young children and the challenges that come along with caring for them makes it seem pretty likely to me.

Poor Haleigh and Jr.   
 

If she Grama N or GGrama S were at all involved giving their testimony for the child custody, one can see HOW Ronald got the kids. Not saying anything for or against either Ron or Crystal....but nonetheless, neither are perfect.

Now...they are continuing to PAINT THE SAME PICTURE..this time including Misty. 

Everyone in that town must use glue for lipstick/balm, cause certainly there are enough people that see what is happening.  But, they can't seem to open their mouths and spill the beans.

[GramaMonkey]

Hello Monkeys, I dont beleive Ronald was pimping anybody out, but what  I beleive is he was still stuck in his teenage years instead of acting responcible for the children he had and being a man, he contunued on with his bad boy attitude and his ways of chasing teenage girls and he just happened to hook up with Mistie and then she being the teenager that she is continued on with the way she had been livng after Ronald left everyday for work.  Theres no telling what has gone on in the afternoon every day after Ronald left, how many guys might have had access to these children that came over to just "kick it" with Mistie...or how many times Mistie put these kids to bed and then hightailed it outta there looking for some fun..........This stuff gets around fast in a small town and so therefore there's no telling how many people knew that the kids would likely be alone at night or that Mistie was likely to be high or drunk or both......

  Thats why Ronald should have left these kids with the GM, he already knew about Mistie's running around and staying out and stuff, he is just as responcible for not making sure these kids were safe.  He shoulnt have assumed that just because he left Mistie there with 2 kids that she was gonna stay right there, you dont take that kinda chance with your children,     It makes me mad everytime I hear him say that part about the better parent crap.....ask him if the Judge knew when he gave them those kids that he would have a teenager staying with them all night, or if he knew that the girl staying with them was a little floosey that ran wild,   I bet he didnt.........Those poor kids............

I agree with you, HH. I can't believe a barely 17 y.o. girl would be content babysitting two kids 24/7, while he works 10 hours and then sleeps the rest of the time. It's just not natural. She would want to go out, have fun, not be tied down with two kids and keeping house.
I've heard her comment that she and Haleigh "did makeup and hair together." Sounds like she played with them more than anything else. Anybody ever stop to think... she's just 12 years older than Haleigh. Not a good recommendation for "mommy."

Maybe she was JUST THE BABYSITTER...and like you say, wanted to go out and have her good times.  But....certainly NOT when she is to be the caregiver for those two children, during times when Ron was not at home.

This may have been the arrangement....babysitter....but she took advantage, to her own frills.

[GabbyG]

Hello Monkeys. I haven't posted here for a while but I found this on Bloggernewsnetwork. Poster is TJ Hart:
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
This is an interview with Cobra talking about Misty.... pretty explosive stuff....

This was a great find, lily!!  Thank you!   

Thank You lily....

Hi Monkeys!!  Does anyone know if a you tube has been made of this yet? I am on dinosaur dial up still and you tube is the only thing I can get to load. TIA

[Wyks]

I don't know, Gabby.  But one of our wonderful monkeys spent two hours typing it out!
Here 'tis:

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Cobra is speaking the entire time:
"In this case, I would have had a perfect reenactment with Misty, she was uh very much eager to do it, but then what screwed it up on Monday night which would have been a perfect time to do it but Nancy graces people went out there and did the Ronald interview, which I asked them NOT to and I asked NOT to uh jump the gun on it of course they jumped the gun on it and forced us out that night. They gave her time to think about it. "

"And Tuesday, Ronald invited me to the vigil, I went over there, and I really don't like them things, but I went over there and it was kinda eye opening. Everybody in the room uh about 70 people, and I explained to all them on tape what I wanna do.  I think the press has this kinda wrong about where you in this room, were you in this room, did you do this, did you do this, and what I wanna do Misty is go through each step, as close as you can recall it as to exactly how it went. And if you are willing to do that, I will close this case. Absolutely close it beyond any doubt.  Ronald says "You're doing this." She says "Absolutely." And in front of all the people it was absolute.  "

"Then we left there and Ronald says "Lets get something to eat. " I said "Yes I don't want to do this until it gets closer to 3 o'clock in the morning but I don't want to keep you out here so we will do it at 11:00 o'clock it'll be just as dark and it'll be nice and crisp, the dew will have fallen, everything else, I mean it was being put together forensencly as well as what she was saying.  I had some specialists that were coming in, uh, behind the scenes in the dark who knew half the sh*t I had planned out. "
So uh, it turns out uh, Ronald comes in late around 8:30 or so at MeMaws, and we sit here at MeMaws and discussin how we're gonna (inaudible). I (Cobra) ask "where's misty?" (Ronald) "Oh shes getting Cold on this." (Cobra) "What do you mean shes getting cold on it?" (Ronald) "I don't think shes gonna do it man."

(Cobra) I say "What? We just left there, and was going to go do it. Now whats changed her mind?" (Ronald) "Man I am going to try to get her there." (Cobra) "Well she needs to do this. Man, we need to get this cleared up." He's in full agreement. So all the sudden she starts calling him. Saying, "Get the hell away from him." (Ron) "What?" and he turns the phone (inaudible)

We actually drank from the same, I kept the plastic cup, we were drinking sweet tea at MeMaws, kicked back like two hillbillys talking. And he allows me to listen to all the phone calls he has received. Probably about ten of them occurred while we tried to eat. I was eating (inaudible) that he wasn't gonna eat. So we were drinking ice tea and talking. And it expanded into her threatening to leave him, threatening to go away, she ain't coming back, if you get the hell away from that d@mn guy, meaning me, she don't trust me, blah blah blah.

And she started setting up premise to that before we left the vigil saying "I really don't remember" and this. And I should have told her "Listen b*tch, you know exactly what the hell you did, you are lying,  and I want you to just come clean. But I said "That’s ok Mama, I understand, theres a time when yanno, can skip those spots and we will fill those blanks in after we go through it all. Maybe the reconstruction of the crime scene will help you understand." And all the people looking at her said that’s a good idea." She was like, I dunno if it was peer pressure, but she would not look at me, she wasn't sittin, shedding a tear, I was in tears, while we were doing the vigil. My son was in tears, everybody in that room was in tears, except her.

Yanno I wouldn't wanna say it live, but I wanna say I saw her grinning a little bit.  It wasn't a very good (inaudible).

what we have come up with is that she wasn't there. We was believe she was off with somebody else, she came back to the house, that’s why she can't tell it anymore because. We, I got other guys up here right now, trying to find, there's at least three or four guys, "white boy greg" is at the top of the list, because Ronald, I heard rumors,  but then Ronald told me, flat out that uh, on Sunday, that yeah. And I am going to be quite frank with you, and you might have to cut it. Quote, unquote.

I said Ronald, I have a very difficult question to ask you, about your now wife.  It appears one week before Haliegh came up missing, she was.  And Ronald told me to "stop right there, I know what you are going to ask me, yes was she f*cking a black guy? Yes, how do I feel about her f*cking a black guy? I know this, if I didn't marry her, I would never, you hear me? What do you do to your enemies?"  I said (Cobra) "You keep them close." Ronald says "Exactly, and if I didn't marry her, I don't know where in the hell my, where am I going to look for my son? (Cobra meant to say daughter)."

This particular night, she continued to call Memaws, on Tuesday night, saying you need to call, and shes threatening to leave, shes going to go here, and shes going to go there.  Ronald says "man I got to go." I said "Damn shes got you on the run don't she?" He said "Yeah".

I said, "well you know what time it is". And I have been very fair, leveled the playing field, on both sides of the family, I talked to them just as plain, because if it don't make sense, just easy going stuff.   I said Ronald, my goal is to find Haleigh.  And I thought that would be your goal, misty's goal, and everybody elses goal.  Apparently its everybodys goal, except mistys.  So this kinda gives me an answer, as to where I needed to conduct my investigation come wendsay morning.

You can believe I am going to the sheriff, and you can believe I am going to try to get her charged with obstruction of justice, and you can believe I am going to try to get her charged with child endangerment.  And hopefully they put a million dollar bond on her, and then guess what, she aint walking out of nowhere then.

Ronald says good, and "You know, I should just go over there now and stick my damn pistol in her mouth because I am tired of this bullsh*t".  Then I said "Ronald…you can't do that sh*t."

He kinda got that from me walking in the woods with my son, at 4:30 in the morning after being down there about four days, and about 8 hours of sleep over a four day period. My son asked me, if "Would you do this," I've got five kids, "Daddy would you look this hard if it was one of us?"  And I said "Absolutely not."  and that freaked him out, he said "WHAT?" and I said "No, the first person I run into and started with this story "Uhhh, eee..blah blah blah" I would find out right then and there. *inaudible*" So I said that, and I think from there, Ronald got jacked up.

So then Ronald and I went outside to my truck, to get away from everybody else, and uh told me real personal stuff, that was different from this, which I am not at liberty to tell you because it is confidential.  And he asked me to keep it that way.

So I said "Lets watch a movie." So we went to the you tube site, where we watched the tank and *inaudible* necessary evil, that’s me and my partner going after a child molester, and what we do when we catch up to one, kick in the door and go all apesh*t. And Ronald goes "send that in to me right now, I'll call your partner and tell him to come up here and I am going to give him a list of a couple of names, and I want him to go….
(Cobra interrups Ron) "Hey we can't go like than man, there will be a time to go kickin in doors and all that stuff. Ronald goes "Man I am going home and stick that pistol in her mouth and be done with it.(?)"

I said, Listen Man,   don't go do that sh*t. Ronald says "I'll call you at 11 o'clock." I said "Calm down, call me at 11 o'clock." Call's me at 11 o'clock, and he is off the chain. They are going "blah blah blah" 50 mph with each other. So I tried to reach out to the contacts I have, the sheriff, and a couple of FDLE guys, you know, John Merchant and said "Listen, I am afraid, that tonight, that a) Misty is going to hit it and take off or uh Crazy old Ronald done lost his mind, and he wasn't drinking he was straight, and hes going to go over there and do something, and if something should happen, I don't want to get in trouble. So I am bringing this to the attention of law enforcement.

Well I had to go through dispatch and told them to talk to me, but I didn't back out of Palatka. *inaudible* 309. I met with the Sargent, who uh dispatched 3 more cars, and we went out to his aunties place, at the 711/citgo there, and two officers after a period of time said "*inaudible* now, its time to get that done." So I figured, around 2ish, the police report was non founded, they wrote it off as non founded, just to keep the press guys at bay. They went there for a wellness check, based on my concerns that uh, either a shes going to take off, and shes key to this investigation at this moment, and she needs to be straightened out as far as, whats going on.  Shes derailed the whole investigation by her lying and I didn't want Ronald to blow her head off,  and now the whole damn family is messed up.

So to avoid that, and make sure that we didn't have that, we went and did a wellness check with the sheriffs department, which came back as non founded, who knows what they said behind, and I don't know what hes talking about, because now him and misty is together again.  When you separate the two of them its always hell on wheels, so we left there and I have not heard, Ronald was supposed to go yesterday, to a meeting with John Merchant, then he was going to call me and tell me what he needed checked out. He had something he thought he had a serious clue he wanted me checking into. I have yet, its 3 o'clock now Thursday and I have yet to hear from him Since that night of all that damn confusion.

Its pretty painful though, I had it right on the verge of it cracking, she knew I had her, she knew she was done, Ronald knew she was done, Ronalds convinced beyond any shadow of doubt that she was not there.  That possibly she was out screwing around with White Boy Greg and that’s the name that has been given to me by several folks, and confirmed was her lover by her husband now, Ronald.

[TxLady2]

Sorry, IMO, please don't presume that I support Ron 100%.  I do not. I support the truth and facts.  And if you think the custody transcript is a mess then I don't know what to say.  I think so many on this forum has been persuaded one way or the other by opinions and theories of others.  I was trying to say that there is written documentation to show other aspects of this case.  And you certainly don't have to read them.  But, they are the written truth not someone's ideas.

Hi Minnie... Speaking for myself.. I have not been persuaded by others oppinions or theories but I do appreciated and like the others  who have their input..I myself from reading the custody report, police report, inconsistancies , teenager involved , 911 call, sudden marriage taken place,TV interviews and video's- Has me where my thoughts and oppinions are regarding Ron and Misty...

I'm going to be honest here. I've followed this case from the beginning, and I had a bad feeling about Ron from the start. There have been a couple times when I had some compassion for him and believed he had nothing to do with whatever happened to Haleigh. But something about him just caused concern, and everything I've seen since then has intensified that. I wasn't sure about Misty, tried to excuse it by saying she was young, scared, immature. Could be, but have seen a few things lately that worry me about her, too.
OTOH, I've never had a bad feeling about Crystal. I just took her to be the mother who got run over by this train wreck. She doesn't raise my suspicions in the least. I do not agree with some things she has done, but that is her business. I think Ron's family intimidated her the whole time she was with him, and he was controlling of her as well. I think he broke her spirit to the extent that she was afraid to buck up against him, until this lawyer came along and took her case. Praise the Lord that somebody is on her side!!
I do try to keep an open mind, but sometimes the facts just jump up and stare me right in the face and I can't ignore that.

 

[Idgie]

Blue Moon - you brought up something that is another reason for Ron marrying Misty:

Misty is underage
Misty doesn't have a job (not that I've heard of)
Misty has no income
Misty has taken a lot of drugs
Drugs that were most likely supplied by Ron

Couldn't Ron be in legal trouble for supplying drugs to a minor?

I spent a lot of time yesterday reading the custody transcript.  If you read it you will understand the reason Ron got custody as it is very clear.  It was not that he was the best parent, but that he was not the worst.  All the details are there and it took me almost an hour to read it.  I can provide the link if anyone is interested in knowing what it says.

Also if you read Ron's arrest report you will see that all his charges were prior to 2005.  There are no drug charges since he has had custody.  You have to read the report carefully to see that the length is due to hearing etc., not new charges.

I point this because I think we should be looking at the facts correctly.  Also how do we know that Misty is doing drugs or that Ron is doing drugs now?  I have not seen any proof of that reported.  They probably are, but I am not sure of that beyond a shadow of a doubt.  I think we need to be looking at the facts.  At least that is what I want to do.

Finally a voice of reason in all this mess, thank you. Are we trying to find Haleigh or find any/some reason to ge RC arrested? I thought the purpose of this thread was Haleigh.
respectfully  Idgie

[Idgie]

I think Ron and Misty got married all for different reasons.  (1) Ron was messing around with an underage girl  2) Ron was engaging in drugs with this underage girl 3) Ron was working and leaving his 2 children with a girl whom he supplied and knew was using drugs and irresponsible.

I myself think Ron got custody of those children with the help of his mother and gmother.  What gparents would not want to have their only gchildren with them.  I think Ron truly loved his children but he was childlike himself and depended on his mother, gmother and Misty or whoever the lastest underage girl at the moment to raise his children.

If Ron has another child with Amber is he paying her childsupport? visitation?  So the money he would be getting from Chrystal would go to pay his child support for another child, support Misty, supplies drugs to each other.  I don't Believe Ron did anything to his child BUT I do believe he was no more mature than Misty and was as irresponsible as she was therefore he holds some responsibility for what has happened. JMO

Its kinda strange that we have her anything about Amber? Maybe she was threaten with her baby taken from her and she is keeping her mouth shut...Ron was asked if he had any other children and he stated a possibility...And then misty posted a comment on Amber's mysapce i got your man and will get your baby.. Not sure of the exact words but on that line...

Good points, both of you! 

I do think it's odd that we haven't heard from Amber in all this.  Altho LE may have heard from her, and likely have interviewed her.  Could be they are keeping her out of view etc so that she may be a star witness or something. 

Ya know I heard Ron too, talking about another possible child.  He even gave a first name and it wasn't Jordan.  (Amber's baby).  So it seems that Ron has another child out there besides Jordan.  Wonder why, when asked, Ron didn't mention Jordan?    

And yes, wondering as well about the child support due Jordan and this other child.  Especially in light of the fact that Ron/family seems to be going after the child support owed by Crystal, even tho she had a severe car accident and a baby and couldn't work during that time. 

 

It is not a fact that Amber's son belongs to RC it is only speculation so far.

[TxLady2]

Ron's mom looks strong and opinionated, the teenage girls I'm guessing are easier to manipulate and control, his mom don't look like that would be to easy to do.  And maybe to the teenage girls in town, Ron is quite the catch 

I tell you this I think Ggranny S. is one tough character.. I dont think I would have a fight with her...

Oh, my word!! LOL... you should see ME in action then!! My second son used to tell his classmates in about the 6th grade, "My mamma can whip your daddy." There's a long story behind that, which I won't get into, but I've had my share of "whipping" people in my day. G/granny Sykes wouldn't scare me in the least little bit. She might scare Ron though. 

[Brandi]

Video of Cobra 3/20/09
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/default.aspx

Thanks for this link. In it, it is reported that Cobra will stay in Satsuma working the case "until his funding runs out."

That is not what he said when he got to Satsuma.

"Cobra says he's investigating the case free of charge.  And he says he will stay in Putnam County until he's confident the case is closed."
<snipped> http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/P-I-Searches-for-Haleigh/rwX4oL0NrE6kKhoe2vdr-g.cspx

Hope that does not mean he thinks it is getting cold and he will leave without it solved.

[flamom]

Sorry, IMO, please don't presume that I support Ron 100%.  I do not. I support the truth and facts.  And if you think the custody transcript is a mess then I don't know what to say.  I think so many on this forum has been persuaded one way or the other by opinions and theories of others.  I was trying to say that there is written documentation to show other aspects of this case.  And you certainly don't have to read them.  But, they are the written truth not someone's ideas.

Hi Minnie... Speaking for myself.. I have not been persuaded by others oppinions or theories but I do appreciated and like the others  who have their input..I myself from reading the custody report, police report, inconsistancies , teenager involved , 911 call, sudden marriage taken place,TV interviews and video's- Has me where my thoughts and oppinions are regarding Ron and Misty...

I'm going to be honest here. I've followed this case from the beginning, and I had a bad feeling about Ron from the start. There have been a couple times when I had some compassion for him and believed he had nothing to do with whatever happened to Haleigh. But something about him just caused concern, and everything I've seen since then has intensified that. I wasn't sure about Misty, tried to excuse it by saying she was young, scared, immature. Could be, but have seen a few things lately that worry me about her, too.
OTOH, I've never had a bad feeling about Crystal. I just took her to be the mother who got run over by this train wreck. She doesn't raise my suspicions in the least. I do not agree with some things she has done, but that is her business. I think Ron's family intimidated her the whole time she was with him, and he was controlling of her as well. I think he broke her spirit to the extent that she was afraid to buck up against him, until this lawyer came along and took her case. Praise the Lord that somebody is on her side!!
I do try to keep an open mind, but sometimes the facts just jump up and stare me right in the face and I can't ignore that.

 

Thanks Txlady2 I agree with everything you have said

[TxLady2]

Hello Monkeys, I dont beleive Ronald was pimping anybody out, but what  I beleive is he was still stuck in his teenage years instead of acting responcible for the children he had and being a man, he contunued on with his bad boy attitude and his ways of chasing teenage girls and he just happened to hook up with Mistie and then she being the teenager that she is continued on with the way she had been livng after Ronald left everyday for work.  Theres no telling what has gone on in the afternoon every day after Ronald left, how many guys might have had access to these children that came over to just "kick it" with Mistie...or how many times Mistie put these kids to bed and then hightailed it outta there looking for some fun..........This stuff gets around fast in a small town and so therefore there's no telling how many people knew that the kids would likely be alone at night or that Mistie was likely to be high or drunk or both......

  Thats why Ronald should have left these kids with the GM, he already knew about Mistie's running around and staying out and stuff, he is just as responcible for not making sure these kids were safe.  He shoulnt have assumed that just because he left Mistie there with 2 kids that she was gonna stay right there, you dont take that kinda chance with your children,     It makes me mad everytime I hear him say that part about the better parent crap.....ask him if the Judge knew when he gave them those kids that he would have a teenager staying with them all night, or if he knew that the girl staying with them was a little floosey that ran wild,   I bet he didnt.........Those poor kids............

I agree with you, HH. I can't believe a barely 17 y.o. girl would be content babysitting two kids 24/7, while he works 10 hours and then sleeps the rest of the time. It's just not natural. She would want to go out, have fun, not be tied down with two kids and keeping house.
I've heard her comment that she and Haleigh "did makeup and hair together." Sounds like she played with them more than anything else. Anybody ever stop to think... she's just 12 years older than Haleigh. Not a good recommendation for "mommy."

Maybe she was JUST THE BABYSITTER...and like you say, wanted to go out and have her good times.  But....certainly NOT when she is to be the caregiver for those two children, during times when Ron was not at home.

This may have been the arrangement....babysitter....but she took advantage, to her own frills.

If anybody believes she was just there to babysit, with only one bed in the house besides Haleigh's toddler bed.... then they've got blinders on. She slept in that big bed.... with him. Anyone think they didn't take advantage of that???
If she was merely the babysitter, why did he marry her?

[Kat_Gram]

Do you think Geraldo will cover this tonight, If so, please update. I do not get that station. Even tho I dislike Geraldo, I still want to know if he has any of them on live and current.

[no rose colored glasses]

Sorry, IMO, please don't presume that I support Ron 100%.  I do not. I support the truth and facts.  And if you think the custody transcript is a mess then I don't know what to say.  I think so many on this forum has been persuaded one way or the other by opinions and theories of others.  I was trying to say that there is written documentation to show other aspects of this case.  And you certainly don't have to read them.  But, they are the written truth not someone's ideas.

Hi Minnie... Speaking for myself.. I have not been persuaded by others oppinions or theories but I do appreciated and like the others  who have their input..I myself from reading the custody report, police report, inconsistancies , teenager involved , 911 call, sudden marriage taken place,TV interviews and video's- Has me where my thoughts and oppinions are regarding Ron and Misty...

I'm going to be honest here. I've followed this case from the beginning, and I had a bad feeling about Ron from the start. There have been a couple times when I had some compassion for him and believed he had nothing to do with whatever happened to Haleigh. But something about him just caused concern, and everything I've seen since then has intensified that. I wasn't sure about Misty, tried to excuse it by saying she was young, scared, immature. Could be, but have seen a few things lately that worry me about her, too.
OTOH, I've never had a bad feeling about Crystal. I just took her to be the mother who got run over by this train wreck. She doesn't raise my suspicions in the least. I do not agree with some things she has done, but that is her business. I think Ron's family intimidated her the whole time she was with him, and he was controlling of her as well. I think he broke her spirit to the extent that she was afraid to buck up against him, until this lawyer came along and took her case. Praise the Lord that somebody is on her side!!
I do try to keep an open mind, but sometimes the facts just jump up and stare me right in the face and I can't ignore that.

 

What you wrote is exactly how I feel, I couldn't have put it into words as well as you though. I can't shake my feelings on Ron and Misty, and for me watching their actions and words it just gets worse. I also have not had a bad feeling on Crystal either, and maybe her mother is irritating, but I just don't feel she had anything to do with this. There is a look in Ron's eyes that is very disturbing to me. This cousin Joe and this new man Greg being thrown in the mix, I don't know, I just feel they didn't have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, IMO.

[Sleepless in Florida]

Sorry, IMO, please don't presume that I support Ron 100%.  I do not. I support the truth and facts.  And if you think the custody transcript is a mess then I don't know what to say.  I think so many on this forum has been persuaded one way or the other by opinions and theories of others.  I was trying to say that there is written documentation to show other aspects of this case.  And you certainly don't have to read them.  But, they are the written truth not someone's ideas.

Hi Minnie... Speaking for myself.. I have not been persuaded by others oppinions or theories but I do appreciated and like the others  who have their input..I myself from reading the custody report, police report, inconsistancies , teenager involved , 911 call, sudden marriage taken place,TV interviews and video's- Has me where my thoughts and oppinions are regarding Ron and Misty...

I'm going to be honest here. I've followed this case from the beginning, and I had a bad feeling about Ron from the start. There have been a couple times when I had some compassion for him and believed he had nothing to do with whatever happened to Haleigh. But something about him just caused concern, and everything I've seen since then has intensified that. I wasn't sure about Misty, tried to excuse it by saying she was young, scared, immature. Could be, but have seen a few things lately that worry me about her, too.
OTOH, I've never had a bad feeling about Crystal. I just took her to be the mother who got run over by this train wreck. She doesn't raise my suspicions in the least. I do not agree with some things she has done, but that is her business. I think Ron's family intimidated her the whole time she was with him, and he was controlling of her as well. I think he broke her spirit to the extent that she was afraid to buck up against him, until this lawyer came along and took her case. Praise the Lord that somebody is on her side!!
I do try to keep an open mind, but sometimes the facts just jump up and stare me right in the face and I can't ignore that.

 

Same with me, TxLady- I've not gotten a bad feeling from Crystal, but sure have from Ron and Misty.

[no rose colored glasses]

Do you think Geraldo will cover this tonight, If so, please update. I do not get that station. Even tho I dislike Geraldo, I still want to know if he has any of them on live and current.

I heard a teaser this morning what was going to be on, and I didn't hear anything about this case, of course it doesn't mean he won't have a small segment though.

[Wyks]

I think Ron and Misty got married all for different reasons.  (1) Ron was messing around with an underage girl  2) Ron was engaging in drugs with this underage girl 3) Ron was working and leaving his 2 children with a girl whom he supplied and knew was using drugs and irresponsible.

I myself think Ron got custody of those children with the help of his mother and gmother.  What gparents would not want to have their only gchildren with them.  I think Ron truly loved his children but he was childlike himself and depended on his mother, gmother and Misty or whoever the lastest underage girl at the moment to raise his children.

If Ron has another child with Amber is he paying her childsupport? visitation?  So the money he would be getting from Chrystal would go to pay his child support for another child, support Misty, supplies drugs to each other.  I don't Believe Ron did anything to his child BUT I do believe he was no more mature than Misty and was as irresponsible as she was therefore he holds some responsibility for what has happened. JMO

Its kinda strange that we have her anything about Amber? Maybe she was threaten with her baby taken from her and she is keeping her mouth shut...Ron was asked if he had any other children and he stated a possibility...And then misty posted a comment on Amber's mysapce i got your man and will get your baby.. Not sure of the exact words but on that line...

Good points, both of you! 

I do think it's odd that we haven't heard from Amber in all this.  Altho LE may have heard from her, and likely have interviewed her.  Could be they are keeping her out of view etc so that she may be a star witness or something. 

Ya know I heard Ron too, talking about another possible child.  He even gave a first name and it wasn't Jordan.  (Amber's baby).  So it seems that Ron has another child out there besides Jordan.  Wonder why, when asked, Ron didn't mention Jordan?    

And yes, wondering as well about the child support due Jordan and this other child.  Especially in light of the fact that Ron/family seems to be going after the child support owed by Crystal, even tho she had a severe car accident and a baby and couldn't work during that time. 

 

It is not a fact that Amber's son belongs to RC it is only speculation so far.

With all due respect, Idgie, if in these threads, we only spoke of the 'facts' that we've been given so far.. we'd be sitting around twiddling our thumbs until trial.  But the beauty of these threads are, that we can speculate, give our theories and thoughts about this case.  And do it so as not to be offensive to others, but to just share how we each feel and think, and what our latest theories and opinions are. 

Thank you for sharing yours. 

[darla]

Good Evening Monkeys and Guest! I see nothing is new tonight. I so wish they would get Tim back and let him do a bigger search.

[klaasend]

Video of Cobra 3/20/09
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/default.aspx

Thanks Heart!