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« Reply #160 on: March 18, 2009, 08:48:21 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO
I dont see any tatooes or wedding rings, or new gap caps,    IMO  she looks like a greiving Mother.......
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« Reply #161 on: March 18, 2009, 08:48:39 PM »

Art Harris just stated that he is going to put up pictures of abused Haleigh and Ron Jr on his site that Crystal has given in.  Haleigh with black eye, bruises, etc.

Can he do that?  legally?   


Beyond that, why in the world would a mother want to do that to her child. There are other ways to handle this situation. I sure hope her attorney talks her out of this.
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« Reply #162 on: March 18, 2009, 08:51:10 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO
yikes... 



This is a good example of a post that EVERYONE should avoid and pass over. JMO


TY took the words right out of my mouth!

Why because I am expressing an opinion that is not on Crystal's behalf.  I have read for sometime now similar things said about the "other side" and not seen any one get upset.  They have been called liars, druggies, and murderers and no one skipped over these posts.  This forum is like a kangaroo court.  I am not on anyone's side, but good grief what happened to innocent until proven guilty?  You can skip over it is fine, because I have skipped over plenty myself.
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« Reply #163 on: March 18, 2009, 08:51:15 PM »

Art Harris just stated that he is going to put up pictures of abused Haleigh and Ron Jr on his site that Crystal has given in.  Haleigh with black eye, bruises, etc.

Can he do that?  legally?   

And is this the right time? I take that back it maybe the right time, to get Jr out of that surrounding. 
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« Reply #164 on: March 18, 2009, 08:51:37 PM »

what if its the other way around-what if ron hurt Haleigh and Misty is protecting him. I havnt been  following the case-did anyone see Haleigh the day she went missing.  I am thinking it could have happend the day before not on the night they said it did. 
Yes ~ I've wondered about that, too. 
They have proof thast she was at school that day, and also a neighbor saw her outside playing with other children later that afternoon,, so accounted for up until I'd say at least dark...
  Thanks HH- so much for my theory-

No it's ok, cherjers!  The first part of what you were saying could very well be!  Folks outside the family saw Haleigh that day, so just tweak your theory with that info. 

If you're thinking that maybe Haleigh was harmed earlier than when she went missing, yep, that's possible, even tho folks saw her.  It could have taken some time for any internal injuries to be fatal.  If that was the case. 

We've also talked in here about maybe Haleigh got hit or something and died much later.  We also don't know *for sure* that Ron didn't leave work early..  There are rumors, which might only be rumors. 

And being "spotted" at work by co-workers doesn't really cut it for some of us, as his absolute alibi. 

Please don't give up on your theory cuz some parts don't fit.  Tweak away!!  Just as with ours, which incl those for each player in this case, our theories may get a change-up as new facts are uncovered. 

 
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« Reply #165 on: March 18, 2009, 08:51:42 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO

Crystal wasn't around when Haleigh went missing.  Haleigh went missing on Ron's watch not Crystal's.  Why are YOU being so hard on Crystal?


I think it is because I am a mother and I cannot imagine giving up my children without a fight.  I don't believe Ron would not let her communicate with them between visits.  I believe that mainly because she was still getting them every two weeks and yet she was greatly behind in her child support.  She has made no effort to raise them or get them back.

They have been with their father since Haleigh was two and Junior was less than a year old.  If there was abuse going on and she did not notice it then she is not a mother that is aware of her children.  Neither may be fit, but he has taken care of them and no one has complained so far.

I am watching the interview right now and am seeing her (Crystal) rolling her eyes.  The same as Ron.  So what say you about that?  I say it is because for both of them they are disagreeing with what the interviewer is saying and no other reason. 

I also say that there is going to be more speculation now that Crystal has come out and opened herself up for attacks.  I am not being hard on her anymore than people have been hard on Ron's side.  I think the same opining should be good for one as for the other.  There are flaws and falicies in both their information. 

As with Ron just because he or she is saying it does not make it true.  She has come forward with these allegations and now she has opened herself up for scrutiny.  And since none of us know the truth about what happened I am expressing my opinion. 

 
I'm a mother too, and although I can't imagine ever leaving my children, it sounds like Ron picks weak, dependent women.  He does this because he himself is weak, insecure and a bully.  He plays dirty and just listening to his part of the 911 call tells me he is a domineering chauvinistic azz.  I'm not sure Crystal is any better, but I can see where someone like Ron would intimidate and scare her into staying away.  I don't for one sorry second believe he is a great father.   

Also, if you were watching, she's brought these allegations before.  Nancy backed off a little when she shut up long enough to hear that.
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« Reply #166 on: March 18, 2009, 08:57:08 PM »

Ron isn't Mr. Innocent, IMO.  He admittedly dated many teenagers so he likes to control his immature, naive "women".  I don't get why he's getting the benefit of the doubt when he is probably a big jackazz.  His fake crying really bothers me too.

I hate being the newbie.    I probably will be irritating until some monkeys set me straight. 

Newbie?   

    well, in this case? LOL 

Ahhhhh .. well that's works!   
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« Reply #167 on: March 18, 2009, 08:57:24 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO
yikes... 



This is a good example of a post that EVERYONE should avoid and pass over. JMO


TY took the words right out of my mouth!

Why because I am expressing an opinion that is not on Crystal's behalf.  I have read for sometime now similar things said about the "other side" and not seen any one get upset.  They have been called liars, druggies, and murderers and no one skipped over these posts.  This forum is like a kangaroo court.  I am not on anyone's side, but good grief what happened to innocent until proven guilty?  You can skip over it is fine, because I have skipped over plenty myself.
Well then Im afraid  this will get "skipped over by you too then"  but,   you need to remember first and foremost, Chrstal was not around when this baby came up missing and Im sure her tears are for real, I know mine would be, she has been through hell and back. and has behave better than I ever would.......I would have already beat little Mistie down....................
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« Reply #168 on: March 18, 2009, 08:57:31 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO

Crystal wasn't around when Haleigh went missing.  Haleigh went missing on Ron's watch not Crystal's.  Why are YOU being so hard on Crystal?


I think it is because I am a mother and I cannot imagine giving up my children without a fight.  I don't believe Ron would not let her communicate with them between visits.  I believe that mainly because she was still getting them every two weeks and yet she was greatly behind in her child support.  She has made no effort to raise them or get them back.

They have been with their father since Haleigh was two and Junior was less than a year old.  If there was abuse going on and she did not notice it then she is not a mother that is aware of her children.  Neither may be fit, but he has taken care of them and no one has complained so far.

I am watching the interview right now and am seeing her (Crystal) rolling her eyes.  The same as Ron.  So what say you about that?  I say it is because for both of them they are disagreeing with what the interviewer is saying and no other reason. 

I also say that there is going to be more speculation now that Crystal has come out and opened herself up for attacks.  I am not being hard on her anymore than people have been hard on Ron's side.  I think the same opining should be good for one as for the other.  There are flaws and falicies in both their information. 

As with Ron just because he or she is saying it does not make it true.  She has come forward with these allegations and now she has opened herself up for scrutiny.  And since none of us know the truth about what happened I am expressing my opinion. 

 
I'm a mother too, and although I can't imagine ever leaving my children, it sounds like Ron picks weak, dependent women.  He does this because he himself is weak, insecure and a bully.  He plays dirty and just listening to his part of the 911 call tells me he is a domineering chauvinistic azz.  I'm not sure Crystal is any better, but I can see where someone like Ron would intimidate and scare her into staying away.  I don't for one sorry second believe he is a great father.   

Also, if you were watching, she's brought these allegations before.  Nancy backed off a little when she shut up long enough to hear that.


You are right about Nancy backing off and I am sure it is because she will get proof of what was said before she comments further.  And I am sure you will agree that is a good thing.  I want to see that proof myself. That is all I was trying to say. Show me the proof Ronald and Crystal.  Then we have more than she said he said.
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« Reply #169 on: March 18, 2009, 08:58:52 PM »

Anyone keeping up with the eyesforlies blog? I just read the dissection of body language for the today show and it seems dead on. (IMO)

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/03/ronald-misty-onthe-today-show.html
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« Reply #170 on: March 18, 2009, 09:00:01 PM »

I will put this out there. Don't know if anyone will believe it but it is real life.  I have a niece who lived through an abusive relationship/marriage.  They were married almost 20 years.  During that time he (as far as I know) did not hit her/beat her but he did verbally abuse her.  Calling her fat, dumb, stupid etc etc.  This went on for 20 years of his constantly day-in, day out doing this to her.  He was a druggie, she knew it, but subjected her daughter and his son (by another marriage) to all this happening around them.  She just never knew what to do and how to go about doing it.  He had broken her years before.  She finally got a divorce.  He took her to the cleaners, raked up expensive toys and she is stuck paying for it.  Why?  because he had convinced her years before that EVERYTHING is her fault and she believed him.She refused to fight him in court because she had no self-respect for herself.  It was all her fault.  They are now divorced but he still intimidates her.  Why?  because they do have a daughter together.  A restraining order does no good.  She has remarried and her husband is as good as gold to her.  But to this day she cannon make decisions on her own because she has no self respect for herself. Why?  because her former husband beat her down years before.  I am concerned for her. I told her mother that just 2 weeks ago.  Her mother told me she cannot understand why she will not take a stand against him and move on with her life.  I told her it will take lots of time (and she should get her in counseling now to overcome this).  Things are not always how they appear.  Chrystal is those childrens mother.  I see my niece in Chrystal.  I also see her former husband in Ronald.  I also see a very very immature child that was playing serious mind games using those kids and Ron and Chrystal against each other for her benefit. 

Just remember things have answers if you just look for them.  Please think about this.
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« Reply #171 on: March 18, 2009, 09:01:55 PM »

I give up on NG. She is beyond biased and if she doesn't get the answer she wants (truth or not) she makes a huge stink. Not newsworthy to me. I like my news fair lol (which is hard to come by nowadays)
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« Reply #172 on: March 18, 2009, 09:02:07 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO
yikes... 



This is a good example of a post that EVERYONE should avoid and pass over. JMO


TY took the words right out of my mouth!

Why because I am expressing an opinion that is not on Crystal's behalf.  I have read for sometime now similar things said about the "other side" and not seen any one get upset.  They have been called liars, druggies, and murderers and no one skipped over these posts.  This forum is like a kangaroo court.  I am not on anyone's side, but good grief what happened to innocent until proven guilty?  You can skip over it is fine, because I have skipped over plenty myself.
Well then Im afraid  this will get "skipped over by you too then"  but,   you need to remember first and foremost, Chrstal was not around when this baby came up missing and Im sure her tears are for real, I know mine would be, she has been through hell and back. and has behave better than I ever would.......I would have already beat little Mistie down....................
Beat her down??...Yea I would be in jail..
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« Reply #173 on: March 18, 2009, 09:02:09 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO
yikes... 



This is a good example of a post that EVERYONE should avoid and pass over. JMO


TY took the words right out of my mouth!

Why because I am expressing an opinion that is not on Crystal's behalf.  I have read for sometime now similar things said about the "other side" and not seen any one get upset.  They have been called liars, druggies, and murderers and no one skipped over these posts.  This forum is like a kangaroo court.  I am not on anyone's side, but good grief what happened to innocent until proven guilty?  You can skip over it is fine, because I have skipped over plenty myself.
Well then Im afraid  this will get "skipped over by you too then"  but,   you need to remember first and foremost, Chrstal was not around when this baby came up missing and Im sure her tears are for real, I know mine would be, she has been through hell and back. and has behave better than I ever would.......I would have already beat little Mistie down....................

You know what and I agree with you, but if what she is saying is true Ronald would have been beaten down by me a long time ago.  The only thing children have are the adults who have been entrusted with their well being.  And whomever, Ronald or Crystal, that should have been their first concern.  I don't see that has been Crystals concern for the last 4 years.
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« Reply #174 on: March 18, 2009, 09:03:23 PM »

I think  some of the proof has already been shown, I saw the picture from the Geraldo show, Ive seen the control during Ronald and Misties interviews...........Ive seen Ronalds long police records.......Ive seen his arrogant ways and his smart way of answering something that he thinks shouldnt be asked of him..............................but guess what.......He Was AT Work.....................I think thats the only thing he has going for him, for the time being anyway...
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« Reply #175 on: March 18, 2009, 09:04:19 PM »

I give up on NG. She is beyond biased and if she doesn't get the answer she wants (truth or not) she makes a huge stink. Not newsworthy to me. I like my news fair lol (which is hard to come by nowadays)
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« Reply #176 on: March 18, 2009, 09:05:14 PM »

Art Harris just stated that he is going to put up pictures of abused Haleigh and Ron Jr on his site that Crystal has given in.  Haleigh with black eye, bruises, etc.

Can he do that?  legally?   


Nancy cut Art off before he finished what he was saying.  Art was saying that he was going to put the pictures up as soon as, and then NG interrupted him before he finished.

What is with these talking heads who interrupt just as we are on the edge of our seats waiting to hear more?  JVM did the same kind of thing last night. 
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« Reply #177 on: March 18, 2009, 09:06:23 PM »

I will put this out there. Don't know if anyone will believe it but it is real life.  I have a niece who lived through an abusive relationship/marriage.  They were married almost 20 years.  During that time he (as far as I know) did not hit her/beat her but he did verbally abuse her.  Calling her fat, dumb, stupid etc etc.  This went on for 20 years of his constantly day-in, day out doing this to her.  He was a druggie, she knew it, but subjected her daughter and his son (by another marriage) to all this happening around them.  She just never knew what to do and how to go about doing it.  He had broken her years before.  She finally got a divorce.  He took her to the cleaners, raked up expensive toys and she is stuck paying for it.  Why?  because he had convinced her years before that EVERYTHING is her fault and she believed him.She refused to fight him in court because she had no self-respect for herself.  It was all her fault.  They are now divorced but he still intimidates her.  Why?  because they do have a daughter together.  A restraining order does no good.  She has remarried and her husband is as good as gold to her.  But to this day she cannon make decisions on her own because she has no self respect for herself. Why?  because her former husband beat her down years before.  I am concerned for her. I told her mother that just 2 weeks ago.  Her mother told me she cannot understand why she will not take a stand against him and move on with her life.  I told her it will take lots of time (and she should get her in counseling now to overcome this).  Things are not always how they appear.  Chrystal is those childrens mother.  I see my niece in Chrystal.  I also see her former husband in Ronald.  I also see a very very immature child that was playing serious mind games using those kids and Ron and Chrystal against each other for her benefit. 

Just remember things have answers if you just look for them.  Please think about this.

I agree completely with this because I was verbally abused and physically abused in my first marriage. It damages you permanently. I dealt with it for 7 years until I decided either I was going to end it all, or leave. I left because I had two kids. To this day he still torments me any way he can even though I have a protective husband now.

Verbal abuse and someone destroying your self esteem is something you can never get over, plus it has a tendency to desensitize you as well.
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« Reply #178 on: March 18, 2009, 09:06:27 PM »

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO
yikes... 

This is a good example of a post that EVERYONE should avoid and pass over. JMO

and why is that? Minnie is just stating her opinion like everyone else is on here...Not nice...have you not been reading all the stuff that has been said about Misty, Ron and his mother and grandmother? should those posts also be skipped over?
Also, NG did prove that Crystal did lie about a different case where she said that some guy had stolen her car and then admitted to police that she had lied..NG has the police report in her hand...that is why Minnie said that she was looking like a liar? just guessing.
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« Reply #179 on: March 18, 2009, 09:06:40 PM »

Thank-you Blue Moon, that was a very good post. It is horrible how many people are abused.
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