Haleigh Marie Cummings #8 3/18/09 - 3/23/09

[Wyks]

We do know from court records that Ron has had a list of drug charges brought against, yet all were dismissed. 

Could the authorities, WOULD the authorities, also dismiss any and all child abuse allegations brought against Ron .. *for the same reasons* they have dismissed all the drug charges???? 

And IF they could and would... WHY??


 

[Scuterputer]

We do know from court records that Ron has had a list of drug charges brought against, yet all were dismissed. 

Could the authorities, WOULD the authorities, also dismiss any and all child abuse allegations brought against Ron .. *for the same reasons* they have dismissed all the drug charges???? 

And IF they could and would... WHY??


 

I am just flabbergasted at this case, and have just given up on trying to understand it. None of it makes any sense, they can't find Haliegh, all hopes of her being alive (in my heart) has left me, too many players in it.

It pisses me off that none of them can be a PARENT and step up and act like it. Its not them suffering, its Haliegh who suffered. I have a four year old, that goes ballistic when he thinks Mama or Daddy is going somewhere without him (And he always goes with us, even on dates lol, cause it breaks our hearts) . When I see him get upset beyond the point of calming down in fear, it makes me think of how Haliegh had to feel.

Just none of them are thinking like a parent, they are acting in thier own best interest. I just want to go down there, scream at them and say "WHAT IN THE HIGH HEAVENS IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???"

*jumps off soapbox and goes back to doing taxes, fur ruffled*

[Wyks]

We do know from court records that Ron has had a list of drug charges brought against, yet all were dismissed. 

Could the authorities, WOULD the authorities, also dismiss any and all child abuse allegations brought against Ron .. *for the same reasons* they have dismissed all the drug charges???? 

And IF they could and would... WHY??


 

I am just flabbergasted at this case, and have just given up on trying to understand it. None of it makes any sense, they can't find Haliegh, all hopes of her being alive (in my heart) has left me, too many players in it.

It pisses me off that none of them can be a PARENT and step up and act like it. Its not them suffering, its Haliegh who suffered. I have a four year old, that goes ballistic when he thinks Mama or Daddy is going somewhere without him (And he always goes with us, even on dates lol, cause it breaks our hearts) . When I see him get upset beyond the point of calming down in fear, it makes me think of how Haliegh had to feel.

Just none of them are thinking like a parent, they are acting in thier own best interest. I just want to go down there, scream at them and say "WHAT IN THE HIGH HEAVENS IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???"

*jumps off soapbox and goes back to doing taxes, fur ruffled*

   

[GramaMonkey]

We do know from court records that Ron has had a list of drug charges brought against, yet all were dismissed. 

Could the authorities, WOULD the authorities, also dismiss any and all child abuse allegations brought against Ron .. *for the same reasons* they have dismissed all the drug charges???? 

And IF they could and would... WHY??

Not sure how the system works but, would it have something to do with the Judge handling the cases.  Is it always the same Judge ??  Someone covering for another, for some reason??

There is a new Sheriff now, maybe things will begin to see NEW BEGINNINGS. 

[crazybabyborg]

We do know from court records that Ron has had a list of drug charges brought against, yet all were dismissed. 

Could the authorities, WOULD the authorities, also dismiss any and all child abuse allegations brought against Ron .. *for the same reasons* they have dismissed all the drug charges???? 

And IF they could and would... WHY??


 

Morning Wyks! Morning Everyone!   
I'm trying to get caught up to speed on this case, but I'm curious too. Wonder why the charges were dismissed?

[Wyks]

... snipped

"Also Friday, the Putnam County Sheriff's office told First Coast News that deputies were involved in looking into allegations of child abuse or neglect by Ronald Cummings three times in the last four years.

None of the incidents led to criminal charges."


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134317&catid=3

I wish we could hear more about these "allegations". 

Because all those drug charges were dismissed, which is really quite odd, this causes me to stop and really ponder why child abuse allegations against him three times, were also dismissed. 

Is it because those allegations proved untrue? 

If so, then why does Ron have "an agreement" between him and Haleigh? 

Many think that Crystal hasn't done anything in these past few years to protect her children in Ron's care.  Have these allegations been Crystal trying all along to report Ron for abuse, not just now that Haleigh went missing? 

And if so, will the public allow the authorities to look the other way again?   

Or........ could Ron really be innocent of so many charges and allegations against him?
Is that why it appears that the authorities have looked the other way? 

So many questions..... 
 

[flossy]

We do know from court records that Ron has had a list of drug charges brought against, yet all were dismissed. 

Could the authorities, WOULD the authorities, also dismiss any and all child abuse allegations brought against Ron .. *for the same reasons* they have dismissed all the drug charges???? 

And IF they could and would... WHY??

Not sure how the system works but, would it have something to do with the Judge handling the cases.  Is it always the same Judge ??  Someone covering for another, for some reason??

There is a new Sheriff now, maybe things will begin to see NEW BEGINNINGS. 

Does anyone know what Ron's mom actually does in LE?  I think she's been able to help him out, but the amount of stuff he appears to have gotten away with is just a wee bit much and makes one wonder what made it possible.

Perhaps Ron and his family have something on someone in LE?  You never know....

The above is, of course, my ever-so-humble opinion, yadda yadda yadda......

 

[Wyks]

Good morning monkeys and guests! 

Hi CBB! 

 

[Wyks]

I know this was posted earlier today, but more comments about seeing Ron & Misty at the fair on Sat. have been added, with a snide remark Ron allegedly made to Jr.  I tried to copy but for some reason - could not - so here is the link - you have to scroll way down to see the latest comments, but it is well worth it. I wonder if this is true, where are the pics???

http://erickacourtney.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/crystal-sheffield-ronald-cummings-both-retain-attorneys-lets-see-why/#comment-1239

Thanks Lucky! 

[Wyks]

This is kinda interesting:

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/03/ongoing-poll-results-for-haleigh.html

Interesting poll results!  Thanks Lucky!   

[crazybabyborg]

... snipped

"Also Friday, the Putnam County Sheriff's office told First Coast News that deputies were involved in looking into allegations of child abuse or neglect by Ronald Cummings three times in the last four years.

None of the incidents led to criminal charges."


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134317&catid=3

I wish we could hear more about these "allegations". 

Because all those drug charges were dismissed, which is really quite odd, this causes me to stop and really ponder why child abuse allegations against him three times, were also dismissed. 

Is it because those allegations proved untrue? 

If so, then why does Ron have "an agreement" between him and Haleigh? 

Many think that Crystal hasn't done anything in these past few years to protect her children in Ron's care.  Have these allegations been Crystal trying all along to report Ron for abuse, not just now that Haleigh went missing? 

And if so, will the public allow the authorities to look the other way again?   

Or........ could Ron really be innocent of so many charges and allegations against him?
Is that why it appears that the authorities have looked the other way? 

So many questions..... 
 

I can fathom a scenario where an ugly divorce causes one ex to loose it and constantly make false reports to police, even if there's no foundation for the complaints, but I'm not aware, anyway, that this was the case here. At some point, you have to figure that where there's smoke, there's fire. JMO.

[lady]

... snipped

"Also Friday, the Putnam County Sheriff's office told First Coast News that deputies were involved in looking into allegations of child abuse or neglect by Ronald Cummings three times in the last four years.

None of the incidents led to criminal charges."


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134317&catid=3

I wish we could hear more about these "allegations". 

Because all those drug charges were dismissed, which is really quite odd, this causes me to stop and really ponder why child abuse allegations against him three times, were also dismissed. 

Is it because those allegations proved untrue? 

If so, then why does Ron have "an agreement" between him and Haleigh? 

Many think that Crystal hasn't done anything in these past few years to protect her children in Ron's care.  Have these allegations been Crystal trying all along to report Ron for abuse, not just now that Haleigh went missing? 

And if so, will the public allow the authorities to look the other way again?   

Or........ could Ron really be innocent of so many charges and allegations against him?
Is that why it appears that the authorities have looked the other way? 

So many questions..... 
 

I can fathom a scenario where an ugly divorce causes one ex to loose it and constantly make false reports to police, even if there's no foundation for the complaints, but I'm not aware, anyway, that this was the case here. At some point, you have to figure that where there's smoke, there's fire. JMO.

Yep!!! And if it looks like a duck and qawacks like a duck guess what?? Its a duck!!

[crazybabyborg]

We do know from court records that Ron has had a list of drug charges brought against, yet all were dismissed. 

Could the authorities, WOULD the authorities, also dismiss any and all child abuse allegations brought against Ron .. *for the same reasons* they have dismissed all the drug charges???? 

And IF they could and would... WHY??

Not sure how the system works but, would it have something to do with the Judge handling the cases.  Is it always the same Judge ??  Someone covering for another, for some reason??

There is a new Sheriff now, maybe things will begin to see NEW BEGINNINGS. 

Does anyone know what Ron's mom actually does in LE?  I think she's been able to help him out, but the amount of stuff he appears to have gotten away with is just a wee bit much and makes one wonder what made it possible.

Perhaps Ron and his family have something on someone in LE?  You never know....

The above is, of course, my ever-so-humble opinion, yadda yadda yadda......

 

  Well, Miss Floozy, you just filled up my milk bucket. Ron's Mom works with LE in some capacity?

That could 'splain a few things............   

Don't mind me if you disagree with my observations.......... I'll get up to speed, and THEN I'll be ready to defend my opinions!   

Right now, I still have this morphing "WTH?" over the marriage and NY trip and the bride's deer in headlight look as to why she changed her story.

[GabbyG]

I don't know, Gabby.  But one of our wonderful monkeys spent two hours typing it out!
Here 'tis:

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Cobra is speaking the entire time:
"In this case, I would have had a perfect reenactment with Misty, she was uh very much eager to do it, but then what screwed it up on Monday night which would have been a perfect time to do it but Nancy graces people went out there and did the Ronald interview, which I asked them NOT to and I asked NOT to uh jump the gun on it of course they jumped the gun on it and forced us out that night. They gave her time to think about it. "

"And Tuesday, Ronald invited me to the vigil, I went over there, and I really don't like them things, but I went over there and it was kinda eye opening. Everybody in the room uh about 70 people, and I explained to all them on tape what I wanna do.  I think the press has this kinda wrong about where you in this room, were you in this room, did you do this, did you do this, and what I wanna do Misty is go through each step, as close as you can recall it as to exactly how it went. And if you are willing to do that, I will close this case. Absolutely close it beyond any doubt.  Ronald says "You're doing this." She says "Absolutely." And in front of all the people it was absolute.  "

"Then we left there and Ronald says "Lets get something to eat. " I said "Yes I don't want to do this until it gets closer to 3 o'clock in the morning but I don't want to keep you out here so we will do it at 11:00 o'clock it'll be just as dark and it'll be nice and crisp, the dew will have fallen, everything else, I mean it was being put together forensencly as well as what she was saying.  I had some specialists that were coming in, uh, behind the scenes in the dark who knew half the sh*t I had planned out. "
So uh, it turns out uh, Ronald comes in late around 8:30 or so at MeMaws, and we sit here at MeMaws and discussin how we're gonna (inaudible). I (Cobra) ask "where's misty?" (Ronald) "Oh shes getting Cold on this." (Cobra) "What do you mean shes getting cold on it?" (Ronald) "I don't think shes gonna do it man."

(Cobra) I say "What? We just left there, and was going to go do it. Now whats changed her mind?" (Ronald) "Man I am going to try to get her there." (Cobra) "Well she needs to do this. Man, we need to get this cleared up." He's in full agreement. So all the sudden she starts calling him. Saying, "Get the hell away from him." (Ron) "What?" and he turns the phone (inaudible)

We actually drank from the same, I kept the plastic cup, we were drinking sweet tea at MeMaws, kicked back like two hillbillys talking. And he allows me to listen to all the phone calls he has received. Probably about ten of them occurred while we tried to eat. I was eating (inaudible) that he wasn't gonna eat. So we were drinking ice tea and talking. And it expanded into her threatening to leave him, threatening to go away, she ain't coming back, if you get the hell away from that d@mn guy, meaning me, she don't trust me, blah blah blah.

And she started setting up premise to that before we left the vigil saying "I really don't remember" and this. And I should have told her "Listen b*tch, you know exactly what the hell you did, you are lying,  and I want you to just come clean. But I said "That’s ok Mama, I understand, theres a time when yanno, can skip those spots and we will fill those blanks in after we go through it all. Maybe the reconstruction of the crime scene will help you understand." And all the people looking at her said that’s a good idea." She was like, I dunno if it was peer pressure, but she would not look at me, she wasn't sittin, shedding a tear, I was in tears, while we were doing the vigil. My son was in tears, everybody in that room was in tears, except her.

Yanno I wouldn't wanna say it live, but I wanna say I saw her grinning a little bit.  It wasn't a very good (inaudible).

what we have come up with is that she wasn't there. We was believe she was off with somebody else, she came back to the house, that’s why she can't tell it anymore because. We, I got other guys up here right now, trying to find, there's at least three or four guys, "white boy greg" is at the top of the list, because Ronald, I heard rumors,  but then Ronald told me, flat out that uh, on Sunday, that yeah. And I am going to be quite frank with you, and you might have to cut it. Quote, unquote.

I said Ronald, I have a very difficult question to ask you, about your now wife.  It appears one week before Haliegh came up missing, she was.  And Ronald told me to "stop right there, I know what you are going to ask me, yes was she f*cking a black guy? Yes, how do I feel about her f*cking a black guy? I know this, if I didn't marry her, I would never, you hear me? What do you do to your enemies?"  I said (Cobra) "You keep them close." Ronald says "Exactly, and if I didn't marry her, I don't know where in the hell my, where am I going to look for my son? (Cobra meant to say daughter)."

This particular night, she continued to call Memaws, on Tuesday night, saying you need to call, and shes threatening to leave, shes going to go here, and shes going to go there.  Ronald says "man I got to go." I said "Damn shes got you on the run don't she?" He said "Yeah".

I said, "well you know what time it is". And I have been very fair, leveled the playing field, on both sides of the family, I talked to them just as plain, because if it don't make sense, just easy going stuff.   I said Ronald, my goal is to find Haleigh.  And I thought that would be your goal, misty's goal, and everybody elses goal.  Apparently its everybodys goal, except mistys.  So this kinda gives me an answer, as to where I needed to conduct my investigation come wendsay morning.

You can believe I am going to the sheriff, and you can believe I am going to try to get her charged with obstruction of justice, and you can believe I am going to try to get her charged with child endangerment.  And hopefully they put a million dollar bond on her, and then guess what, she aint walking out of nowhere then.

Ronald says good, and "You know, I should just go over there now and stick my damn pistol in her mouth because I am tired of this bullsh*t".  Then I said "Ronald…you can't do that sh*t."

He kinda got that from me walking in the woods with my son, at 4:30 in the morning after being down there about four days, and about 8 hours of sleep over a four day period. My son asked me, if "Would you do this," I've got five kids, "Daddy would you look this hard if it was one of us?"  And I said "Absolutely not."  and that freaked him out, he said "WHAT?" and I said "No, the first person I run into and started with this story "Uhhh, eee..blah blah blah" I would find out right then and there. *inaudible*" So I said that, and I think from there, Ronald got jacked up.

So then Ronald and I went outside to my truck, to get away from everybody else, and uh told me real personal stuff, that was different from this, which I am not at liberty to tell you because it is confidential.  And he asked me to keep it that way.

So I said "Lets watch a movie." So we went to the you tube site, where we watched the tank and *inaudible* necessary evil, that’s me and my partner going after a child molester, and what we do when we catch up to one, kick in the door and go all apesh*t. And Ronald goes "send that in to me right now, I'll call your partner and tell him to come up here and I am going to give him a list of a couple of names, and I want him to go….
(Cobra interrups Ron) "Hey we can't go like than man, there will be a time to go kickin in doors and all that stuff. Ronald goes "Man I am going home and stick that pistol in her mouth and be done with it.(?)"

I said, Listen Man,   don't go do that sh*t. Ronald says "I'll call you at 11 o'clock." I said "Calm down, call me at 11 o'clock." Call's me at 11 o'clock, and he is off the chain. They are going "blah blah blah" 50 mph with each other. So I tried to reach out to the contacts I have, the sheriff, and a couple of FDLE guys, you know, John Merchant and said "Listen, I am afraid, that tonight, that a) Misty is going to hit it and take off or uh Crazy old Ronald done lost his mind, and he wasn't drinking he was straight, and hes going to go over there and do something, and if something should happen, I don't want to get in trouble. So I am bringing this to the attention of law enforcement.

Well I had to go through dispatch and told them to talk to me, but I didn't back out of Palatka. *inaudible* 309. I met with the Sargent, who uh dispatched 3 more cars, and we went out to his aunties place, at the 711/citgo there, and two officers after a period of time said "*inaudible* now, its time to get that done." So I figured, around 2ish, the police report was non founded, they wrote it off as non founded, just to keep the press guys at bay. They went there for a wellness check, based on my concerns that uh, either a shes going to take off, and shes key to this investigation at this moment, and she needs to be straightened out as far as, whats going on.  Shes derailed the whole investigation by her lying and I didn't want Ronald to blow her head off,  and now the whole damn family is messed up.

So to avoid that, and make sure that we didn't have that, we went and did a wellness check with the sheriffs department, which came back as non founded, who knows what they said behind, and I don't know what hes talking about, because now him and misty is together again.  When you separate the two of them its always hell on wheels, so we left there and I have not heard, Ronald was supposed to go yesterday, to a meeting with John Merchant, then he was going to call me and tell me what he needed checked out. He had something he thought he had a serious clue he wanted me checking into. I have yet, its 3 o'clock now Thursday and I have yet to hear from him Since that night of all that damn confusion.

Its pretty painful though, I had it right on the verge of it cracking, she knew I had her, she knew she was done, Ronald knew she was done, Ronalds convinced beyond any shadow of doubt that she was not there.  That possibly she was out screwing around with White Boy Greg and that’s the name that has been given to me by several folks, and confirmed was her lover by her husband now, Ronald.

Thanks much Wyks!!!  And thanks to the monkey who did this for us!!

[Wyks]

NEW POST:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/03/23/haleigh-cummings-still-missing-and-misty-cummings-seems-to-be-dodging-the-truth-what-does-she-know/


Haleigh Cummings Still Missing and Misty Cummings Seems to be Dodging the Truth … What Does She Know?

Thanks Klaas!   

Hmmmmm.... Interesting!! 

From the above post:

"Could this be the “White Boy Greg” Cobra is referring to?  (see pic)

Greg A White, a convicted sex offender with addresses in Florida and Georgia, has a prior conviction for Sex Battery to a minor and absconding.

Blink on Crime has received this information from local sources."

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There has been some discussion over yonder that in Cobra's audio interview, there were possibly references to two Gregs, rather than one.

We've looked at one Greg, and here's another..

I can't tell from the audio interview if two are being referred, or one.  But am thinking we do need to look at any and all Greg's in that area. 

All IMO.

[AprilShowers]

Here are the latest comments about the fair:

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I seen them at the fair last night too. They were having the time of their lives.We stood behind them in a beverage line and they looked like they were not sober. Misty was arrogant and kept making comments to Ron about everybody looking at her and did she look ok.

There was no Jr with them. They were out having a good time even though one or both of them is responsible for a missing little girl. It makes me sick.

AND:

Putnam,Yes,Im sick too,of all of this crap them 2 are trying to pull off,(misty and Ron)! I was standing waiting on a ride w/ my Grandbaby(the bumper cars),and Ronald looks down a Junior and tells him come on the asswhole won’t let u drive”.speaking about the carni.I am just SICKENED!

I wonder if Putnam footed the bill for those freebies,or how many times he ran the scam “Hey I'm the Dad of the missing Child,Can we get this free too? I used to be a faithful Nancy Grace watcher as well,and now,I would just love to call her and tell her how STUPID she is.

My faith is totally gone! in the judicial system and all these reporters that think they know everything,I just know in my gut that Ronald and Misty are partners in this disappearance of this Angel Haleigh missing, I urge people to CLOSELY watch the Today show interview, you will see how she looks to him on what to say.

Putnam, I am afraid you are dead on with how you feel about them 2 being responsible for Haliegh's disappearance,I only hope that they will find her soon,May God Bless you all!

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Interesting ... huh?

[crazybabyborg]

... snipped

"Also Friday, the Putnam County Sheriff's office told First Coast News that deputies were involved in looking into allegations of child abuse or neglect by Ronald Cummings three times in the last four years.

None of the incidents led to criminal charges."


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134317&catid=3

I wish we could hear more about these "allegations". 

Because all those drug charges were dismissed, which is really quite odd, this causes me to stop and really ponder why child abuse allegations against him three times, were also dismissed. 

Is it because those allegations proved untrue? 

If so, then why does Ron have "an agreement" between him and Haleigh? 

Many think that Crystal hasn't done anything in these past few years to protect her children in Ron's care.  Have these allegations been Crystal trying all along to report Ron for abuse, not just now that Haleigh went missing? 

And if so, will the public allow the authorities to look the other way again?   

Or........ could Ron really be innocent of so many charges and allegations against him?
Is that why it appears that the authorities have looked the other way? 

So many questions..... 
 

I can fathom a scenario where an ugly divorce causes one ex to loose it and constantly make false reports to police, even if there's no foundation for the complaints, but I'm not aware, anyway, that this was the case here. At some point, you have to figure that where there's smoke, there's fire. JMO.

Yep!!! And if it looks like a duck and qawacks like a duck guess what?? Its a duck!!

AFLACK!

(sorry............. couldn't help myself)

Hi lady!   

[Wyks]

Thanks much Wyks!!!  And thanks to the monkey who did this for us!!

You're welcome Gabby!  And thanks for bringing this forward.     Am thinking Scuter is the one who typed it all out? 

[GabbyG]

Hi guys,

Haven't been in for awhile ... but wanted to ask:

How did you guys find WBG ... and I thought he was African American?

Thanks. 

Marie:  Thinks it was all a setup.  Thinks it was a inside job.  Thinks Misty knows who took Haleigh.

Crystal: Now says that she has seen Ron hit Haleigh and hit Jr..

Kim Pacazio: Reiterates the abuse of Crystal at the hands of Ron.

Hi Heart!    One thing I wonder about is if Crystal actually SAW Ron hit Haleigh then why in the world did she leave the kids with him alllll this time without trying to do something about it??  Why now and not a whole lot sooner??? 

[GabbyG]

Crystal and her mom are in Orlando (at a studio) and her Mom says she thinks it was "all set up" ..an inside job and that she thinks Misty knows who took her.

I will have to go back and check other transcripts, but I do not recall Crystal stating that she had witness Ron hitting and or abusing the children. IIRC she has always said the opposite.

What I remember is Crystal saying that Haleigh was Ron's "heart". Sure doesnt fit with what she's saying now.