Haleigh Marie Cummings #8 3/18/09 - 3/23/09

[Scuterputer]

Abuse Investigation Sought In Haleigh Case
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18957202/detail.html#-

5-Year-Old Vanished From Home

POSTED: Wednesday, March 18, 2009
SATSUMA, Fla. -- As investigators began their sixth week of trying to solve the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, the focus of the case shifted in light of some serious allegations.

The missing girl's 4-year-old brother, Junior, is the subject of an escalated custody fight that includes some claims about the children's father, Ronald Cummings. The mother of the children, Crystal Sheffield, is alleging abuse.

On Tuesday afternoon, Sheffield's attorney, Kim Picazio, said she met with the Department of Children and Families and urged them to investigate allegations of abuse at the Cummings' home, WJXT-TV reported.

She said officials would investigate some claims of possible physical abuse of Junior.

"I don’t believe that anyone knew exactly what was going on in that household until the spotlight was shown upon it. Why now? Well, we're still not going to let Junior just sit there in an unsafe environment just because Haleigh is missing," Picazio said. "Is she supposed to allow her other child, who has not been taken under the nose of a 17-year-old child, to be abducted or to be abused in that household? Is she supposed to sit by and watch when she know what's going in that household? She would be remiss. They would be calling her reckless. They would have the right to take action against her. So no, we are not going to wait. We're not going to allow Junior to sit in an unsafe household."

The attorney said her meeting with DCF was about serious claims of physical abuse and neglect involving Haleigh and Junior.

"When a parent beats a child until the child is bloodied, that is a crime in this county and where I'm from and in New York City. Just because this is a small town, and just because this is Putnam County, there are still laws here that need to be adhered to. It's legally and morally wrong, and he needs to be brought to justice," Picazio said.

Haleigh's great-grandmother, Annette Sykes, told Channel 4 any claims of abuse are lies.

"It's ridiculous. Ronald spanked his children just like children's services says you can spank them -- on the rear end. I'm from old school, I believe in correcting a child if they don’t mind. That's the way Ronald is, and that's the way he was raised," Sykes said. "It enrages me. It really does. I've been around the children all of their lives, and they're happy and loved. Anybody that sees them -- you can't fool everybody."

She said on her grandson's behalf that the DCF investigation is welcomed because she said he has nothing to hide.

DCF said it was reviewing the allegations.

The sheriff's office said it was aware of the allegations of abuse, but it did not yet have the paperwork needed to begin an investigation.


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o.O Do What??? They are aware of the allegations, but don't have the paperwork for an investigation? Shoot how long does it take to investigate? Until the next child goes missing?

Gah. Thats how I hear of so many children falling through the cracks. DCF is just so overwhelmed with cases.

[islandmonkey]

IM.. you startin in with those secret nanners again?? 

  Oh yeah, want one?? I'll send you a super secret one about how many emails I have been getting from DV victims, really tantalizing stuff

[islandmonkey]

Grandma Defends Haleigh's Father
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134115&catid=3

Posted By: Gary Detman Posted By: Jessica Clark   
Created: 3/18/2009 5:54:37 PM    Updated: 3/18/2009 8:44:25 PM

SATSUMA, FL -- Haleigh Cummings' great-grandmother, Annette Sykes, says the allegations that her grandson abused Haleigh and Haleigh's little brother are "garbage and hearsay."

Sykes told First Coast News Wednesday, "Ronald's a good daddy. I'm not saying he's perfect because he's not. He's a young father, but he loves his children. He provides for his children. He spends as much time as he can with them."

Kim Picazio, Haleigh's mother's attorney, told First Coast News last week that after coming to Putnam County to help Crystal Sheffield handle the media, she received numerous calls and information about possible abuse involving Haleigh's father -- Ronald Cummings, Haleigh and Haleigh's little brother over the past few years.

Picazio said she provided all of that information to the Florida Department of Children and Families Tuesday so that the agency can investigate.

"We're not worried about that [investigation]," said Sykes. "It's just a matter of if they want to investigate facts or if they don't want to take the time and go by hear-say."

John Harrell, a spokesman for the Department of Children and Families, confirmed the agency did receive the information from Picazio this week. Harrell said the agency takes the allegations seriously and will review the information carefully.

As for the speculation that Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, is fighting for custody of her children, Picazio told First Coast News she is still not pursuing a custody battle at this time.

Haleigh's great-grandmother, Sykes, said even talking about it right now is wrong.

"The only thing that needs to be talked about is Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings! Nothing else," Sykes said. "If they want to do all that other stuff, they should've waited until Haleigh came home. Any issues they had should not be now. Now is not the time."

  Now that IS the pot calling the kettle black........and Sykes is the one with a record of interfering with child custody

I guess it was ok for ole Ronnie to get married and honeymoon in NYC though.......

OMG.. You read my mind.....

OOPS~Sorry JG, your turn now

[Kat_Gram]

I will be emailing Miss Nancy.
She was way way too hard on Crystal.
I have to leave the keyboard for a while after that as I could say some things. And they be baaad.
 

[Scuterputer]

Grandmama Sykes says that it should wait until Haleigh comes home. But Crystal has serious worries now about her youngest son.

Maybe Haleigh coming up missing is what broke the spell of control Ron had over Crystal, and this making her realize she has to speak up about everything thats going on and went on?

I think about what I went through, and I kept silent of 7 years of abuse (bruises and all) and never told a soul. I am thinking thats why Crystal is doing this.

Again. IMO.

This is for you...

*smiles* thanks. My current husband has treated me like a princess and has somewhat repaired the damage my ex did to me. People see me and don't think it happened to me because I am so cheerful. (anti depressants work wonders!) Its amazing what control freaks can do to a person. I was 15 when my exhusband (who was 21) drug me through hell (because I didn't feel I could get any better)

I think thats why alot of guys like Ron go for the younger girls, hook them in at first by making them feel special and give them acceptance, then tear them down once you have your claws in.

It seems he has done that with Crystal and Amber, and if you notice how Misty acts toward him, I would gander hes doing the same to Misty as well.

[islandmonkey]

Abuse Investigation Sought In Haleigh Case
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18957202/detail.html#-

5-Year-Old Vanished From Home

POSTED: Wednesday, March 18, 2009
SATSUMA, Fla. -- As investigators began their sixth week of trying to solve the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, the focus of the case shifted in light of some serious allegations.

The missing girl's 4-year-old brother, Junior, is the subject of an escalated custody fight that includes some claims about the children's father, Ronald Cummings. The mother of the children, Crystal Sheffield, is alleging abuse.

On Tuesday afternoon, Sheffield's attorney, Kim Picazio, said she met with the Department of Children and Families and urged them to investigate allegations of abuse at the Cummings' home, WJXT-TV reported.

She said officials would investigate some claims of possible physical abuse of Junior.

"I don’t believe that anyone knew exactly what was going on in that household until the spotlight was shown upon it. Why now? Well, we're still not going to let Junior just sit there in an unsafe environment just because Haleigh is missing," Picazio said. "Is she supposed to allow her other child, who has not been taken under the nose of a 17-year-old child, to be abducted or to be abused in that household? Is she supposed to sit by and watch when she know what's going in that household? She would be remiss. They would be calling her reckless. They would have the right to take action against her. So no, we are not going to wait. We're not going to allow Junior to sit in an unsafe household."

The attorney said her meeting with DCF was about serious claims of physical abuse and neglect involving Haleigh and Junior.

"When a parent beats a child until the child is bloodied, that is a crime in this county and where I'm from and in New York City. Just because this is a small town, and just because this is Putnam County, there are still laws here that need to be adhered to. It's legally and morally wrong, and he needs to be brought to justice," Picazio said.

Haleigh's great-grandmother, Annette Sykes, told Channel 4 any claims of abuse are lies.

"It's ridiculous. Ronald spanked his children just like children's services says you can spank them -- on the rear end. I'm from old school, I believe in correcting a child if they don’t mind. That's the way Ronald is, and that's the way he was raised," Sykes said. "It enrages me. It really does. I've been around the children all of their lives, and they're happy and loved. Anybody that sees them -- you can't fool everybody."

She said on her grandson's behalf that the DCF investigation is welcomed because she said he has nothing to hide.

DCF said it was reviewing the allegations.

The sheriff's office said it was aware of the allegations of abuse, but it did not yet have the paperwork needed to begin an investigation.


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o.O Do What??? They are aware of the allegations, but don't have the paperwork for an investigation? Shoot how long does it take to investigate? Until the next child goes missing?

Gah. Thats how I hear of so many children falling through the cracks. DCF is just so overwhelmed with cases.

  WTF???? Hello, if you are aware of it, FTLOG investigate .......or, does mamma Neves's input in the SO have some bearing on people being afraid to leave info on PAPER

[Jerseygirl345]

Little Misty with her eigth grade education and tons of life experience said only guilty people get lawyers.. 
Here's the link to tell Nancy what you thought of her tonight.. I DID 
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?81

Well NG got a mouthful from me tonight....

[higherhopes]

Little Misty with her eigth grade education and tons of life experience said only guilty people get lawyers.. 
Here's the link to tell Nancy what you thought of her tonight.. I DID 
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?81

Thanks, I for one will be offering her a little "feedback" tonight

Thank You Island, I also sent her a -----nice----- little e-mail............

[jules3699]

I will put this out there. Don't know if anyone will believe it but it is real life.  I have a niece who lived through an abusive relationship/marriage.  They were married almost 20 years.  During that time he (as far as I know) did not hit her/beat her but he did verbally abuse her.  Calling her fat, dumb, stupid etc etc.  This went on for 20 years of his constantly day-in, day out doing this to her.  He was a druggie, she knew it, but subjected her daughter and his son (by another marriage) to all this happening around them.  She just never knew what to do and how to go about doing it.  He had broken her years before.  She finally got a divorce.  He took her to the cleaners, raked up expensive toys and she is stuck paying for it.  Why?  because he had convinced her years before that EVERYTHING is her fault and she believed him.She refused to fight him in court because she had no self-respect for herself.  It was all her fault.  They are now divorced but he still intimidates her.  Why?  because they do have a daughter together.  A restraining order does no good.  She has remarried and her husband is as good as gold to her.  But to this day she cannon make decisions on her own because she has no self respect for herself. Why?  because her former husband beat her down years before.  I am concerned for her. I told her mother that just 2 weeks ago.  Her mother told me she cannot understand why she will not take a stand against him and move on with her life.  I told her it will take lots of time (and she should get her in counseling now to overcome this).  Things are not always how they appear.  Chrystal is those childrens mother.  I see my niece in Chrystal.  I also see her former husband in Ronald.  I also see a very very immature child that was playing serious mind games using those kids and Ron and Chrystal against each other for her benefit. 

Just remember things have answers if you just look for them.  Please think about this.

I agree completely with this because I was verbally abused and physically abused in my first marriage. It damages you permanently. I dealt with it for 7 years until I decided either I was going to end it all, or leave. I left because I had two kids. To this day he still torments me any way he can even though I have a protective husband now.

Verbal abuse and someone destroying your self esteem is something you can never get over, plus it has a tendency to desensitize you as well.

I totally agree with both of you.  I have been there and it does beat you down til you have no will to fight and/or make decisions, cause someone has always made the decisions for you.  The only way for me was to get out but it has continued to affected me.  I can see this in Crystal and it breaks my heart.  Justice for Haleigh!!

[minnie]

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO

Crystal wasn't around when Haleigh went missing.  Haleigh went missing on Ron's watch not Crystal's.  Why are YOU being so hard on Crystal?

I think it is because I am a mother and I cannot imagine giving up my children without a fight.  I don't believe Ron would not let her communicate with them between visits.  I believe that mainly because she was still getting them every two weeks and yet she was greatly behind in her child support.  She has made no effort to raise them or get them back.

They have been with their father since Haleigh was two and Junior was less than a year old.  If there was abuse going on and she did not notice it then she is not a mother that is aware of her children.  Neither may be fit, but he has taken care of them and no one has complained so far.

I am watching the interview right now and am seeing her (Crystal) rolling her eyes.  The same as Ron.  So what say you about that?  I say it is because for both of them they are disagreeing with what the interviewer is saying and no other reason. 

I also say that there is going to be more speculation now that Crystal has come out and opened herself up for attacks.  I am not being hard on her anymore than people have been hard on Ron's side.  I think the same opining should be good for one as for the other.  There are flaws and falicies in both their information. 

As with Ron just because he or she is saying it does not make it true.  She has come forward with these allegations and now she has opened herself up for scrutiny.  And since none of us know the truth about what happened I am expressing my opinion. 

 

I'm a mother too, and although I can't imagine ever leaving my children, it sounds like Ron picks weak, dependent womennon-parented needed little girls, (Crystal was also 14 years old when her and Ron got together). He does this because he himself is weak, insecure and a bully, (and also not mature 25 year old)  He plays dirty and just listening to his part of the 911 call tells me he is a domineering chauvinistic azz.  I'm not sure Crystal is any better, but I can see where someone like Ron would intimidate and scare her into staying away.  I don't for one sorry second believe he is a great father. 

All of this bunch are super super dysfunctional, imho. 

Also, if you were watching, she's brought these allegations before.  Nancy backed off a little when she shut up long enough to hear that.

I said earlier today that this will also be a battle between the city slicker attorney (which she has called herself) vs the backwood country bumpkins.

Wonder why none of the backwood country bumpkins have retained a city slicker attorney.  You know they have had plenty of offers to represent them "pro bono".  They all want in on the band wagon.

Well according to Misty, she does not need an attorney.  According to Misty attorneys are for the guilty and according to Misty she is not guilty.

Thats what I hear, but Misty is only part of the equation.  Allegations are flying toward the whole family.

[Scuterputer]

Cummings Family Responds To Child Abuse Allegations
http://www.news4jax.com/news/18961094/detail.html#-
POSTED: Wednesday, March 18, 2009
UPDATED: 6:29 pm EDT March 18, 2009

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- The family of Haleigh Cummings' father responded on Wednesday to serious allegations made by an attorney for the missing girl's mother.

Haleigh, 5, disappeared 37 days ago. The child was put to bed in her Satsuma home on Feb. 9. Before daybreak the following morning she was reported missing.

An Amber Alert was issued, and police and volunteers have been hard at work searching for the missing girl ever since.

On Tuesday, however, the public focus shifted to Haleigh's younger brother, Junior, who is now at the center of an escalating custody fight been parents Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield.

"Haleigh is the most important thing that we've got going with this, as far as a missing person. But, equally as important is the safety of her brother or any other child in Putnam County," said Putnam County Sheriff's Office Capt. Dick Schauland.

He said the sheriff's office would investigate the allegations of child abuse and neglect that have come from Haleigh's mother's attorney against Haleigh's father.

"As DCF runs their investigation, we'll run a parallel investigation with them and make a determination whether there's anything to the accusations, and if so, if there's anything criminal about it or whatever has to be done," Schauland said.

Sheffield's attorney, Kim Picazio, told Channel 4 about the allegations after she met with the Department of Children and Families.

"When a parent beats a child until the child is bloodied, that is a crime in this county and where I'm from and in New York City. Just because this is a small town, and just because this is Putnam County, there are still laws here that need to be adhered to. It's legally and morally wrong, and he needs to be brought to justice," Picazio said.

Haleigh's paternal grandmother, Teresa Neves, said Cummings has never abused his children. She said Cummings welcomes the investigation.

"This is not the first time they've pulled this out -- it's not the first time. I don’t think it's going to turn out the way they want it to. They must want custody really bad," Neves said.

She said the abuse claims are taking the focus off the search for her missing granddaughter.

"Haleigh, honey, if you can see and hear us, we all love you and miss you. We pray that God brings you home very soon," Neves said.

DCF couldn't say how long it would take to investigate the allegations, but officials said they would act swiftly because it involves the safety of a child.

[Jerseygirl345]

I will put this out there. Don't know if anyone will believe it but it is real life.  I have a niece who lived through an abusive relationship/marriage.  They were married almost 20 years.  During that time he (as far as I know) did not hit her/beat her but he did verbally abuse her.  Calling her fat, dumb, stupid etc etc.  This went on for 20 years of his constantly day-in, day out doing this to her.  He was a druggie, she knew it, but subjected her daughter and his son (by another marriage) to all this happening around them.  She just never knew what to do and how to go about doing it.  He had broken her years before.  She finally got a divorce.  He took her to the cleaners, raked up expensive toys and she is stuck paying for it.  Why?  because he had convinced her years before that EVERYTHING is her fault and she believed him.She refused to fight him in court because she had no self-respect for herself.  It was all her fault.  They are now divorced but he still intimidates her.  Why?  because they do have a daughter together.  A restraining order does no good.  She has remarried and her husband is as good as gold to her.  But to this day she cannon make decisions on her own because she has no self respect for herself. Why?  because her former husband beat her down years before.  I am concerned for her. I told her mother that just 2 weeks ago.  Her mother told me she cannot understand why she will not take a stand against him and move on with her life.  I told her it will take lots of time (and she should get her in counseling now to overcome this).  Things are not always how they appear.  Chrystal is those childrens mother.  I see my niece in Chrystal.  I also see her former husband in Ronald.  I also see a very very immature child that was playing serious mind games using those kids and Ron and Chrystal against each other for her benefit. 

Just remember things have answers if you just look for them.  Please think about this.

I agree completely with this because I was verbally abused and physically abused in my first marriage. It damages you permanently. I dealt with it for 7 years until I decided either I was going to end it all, or leave. I left because I had two kids. To this day he still torments me any way he can even though I have a protective husband now.

Verbal abuse and someone destroying your self esteem is something you can never get over, plus it has a tendency to desensitize you as well.

I totally agree with both of you.  I have been there and it does beat you down til you have no will to fight and/or make decisions, cause someone has always made the decisions for you.  The only way for me was to get out but it has continued to affected me.  I can see this in Crystal and it breaks my heart.  Justice for Haleigh!!

Jules and Blue Moon .. Monkey Hugs....

[Heart]

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story...

SATSUMA, Fla.-- Sitting in the driveway of Misty Cummings former home is a van driven by her sister-in-law. The light blue vehicle doesn’t look like anything out of the ordinary, but it was something investigators thought important enough to impound and analyze at their crime lab for weeks.

The woman who drives that van is Misty Cummings sister-in-law, Chelsea Croslin. Misty was the last person to see Haleigh the night she was taken. Chelsea said the family got the van back just before the weekend.

“They put a lot of tape on it, and there was a lot of white powder on the windows, I guess that’s just to check things,” said Chelsea.

“We all started thinking about what could have happened that night…I realized the van was in a different spot.”

Chelsea Croslin said the night Haleigh disappeared, a family member was staying with them. She says around 4 a.m., when Misty called them to tell them Haleigh was missing, they went outside to the van to drive to Haleigh’s home. Chelsea said she immediately noticed the van was not in the same spot she left it.

“I know I don’t park like that, and I was the last to drive the van.”

After a few hours, another sign the van was tampered with appeared.

“The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said 'Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.' I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van," said Chelsea.

A scratch leading from just behind the driver’s side door handle to the back tire is very visible. Chelsea said that scratch was not there the last time she drove it.

“The scratch---it runs all the way down the van. That’s something someone would know if you’re riding against something and steadily scratching it.”

All police would say about the van being impounded is that it was taken to the FDLE’s crime lab in Jacksonville, analyzed, then released. They would not comment on any specifics of what was searched or if anything was found in the van.

Chelsea Croslin believes the only explanation is that at some point during the night Haleigh was taken, the family member staying with her took the van. Police said they have tracked that man down and questioned him. They also said he has not been ruled out as a suspect.

“I’m not accusing anybody…it’s just me being a mom and believing what I believe and piecing things together. I almost feel like I might know who it is,” said Chelsea.

http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p692

[flamom]

IM I hope you realize I was joking.. the nanner stuff never bothers me at all.... 

[klaasend]

GREAT SHOW DANA!  Love the "nothing but Sax" segment!  

[Blue Moon]

I will put this out there. Don't know if anyone will believe it but it is real life.  I have a niece who lived through an abusive relationship/marriage.  They were married almost 20 years.  During that time he (as far as I know) did not hit her/beat her but he did verbally abuse her.  Calling her fat, dumb, stupid etc etc.  This went on for 20 years of his constantly day-in, day out doing this to her.  He was a druggie, she knew it, but subjected her daughter and his son (by another marriage) to all this happening around them.  She just never knew what to do and how to go about doing it.  He had broken her years before.  She finally got a divorce.  He took her to the cleaners, raked up expensive toys and she is stuck paying for it.  Why?  because he had convinced her years before that EVERYTHING is her fault and she believed him.She refused to fight him in court because she had no self-respect for herself.  It was all her fault.  They are now divorced but he still intimidates her.  Why?  because they do have a daughter together.  A restraining order does no good.  She has remarried and her husband is as good as gold to her.  But to this day she cannon make decisions on her own because she has no self respect for herself. Why?  because her former husband beat her down years before.  I am concerned for her. I told her mother that just 2 weeks ago.  Her mother told me she cannot understand why she will not take a stand against him and move on with her life.  I told her it will take lots of time (and she should get her in counseling now to overcome this).  Things are not always how they appear.  Chrystal is those childrens mother.  I see my niece in Chrystal.  I also see her former husband in Ronald.  I also see a very very immature child that was playing serious mind games using those kids and Ron and Chrystal against each other for her benefit. 

Just remember things have answers if you just look for them.  Please think about this.

I agree completely with this because I was verbally abused and physically abused in my first marriage. It damages you permanently. I dealt with it for 7 years until I decided either I was going to end it all, or leave. I left because I had two kids. To this day he still torments me any way he can even though I have a protective husband now.

Verbal abuse and someone destroying your self esteem is something you can never get over, plus it has a tendency to desensitize you as well.

I totally agree with both of you.  I have been there and it does beat you down til you have no will to fight and/or make decisions, cause someone has always made the decisions for you.  The only way for me was to get out but it has continued to affected me.  I can see this in Crystal and it breaks my heart.  Justice for Haleigh!!

Jules and Blue Moon .. Monkey Hugs....

Thanks Jersey.  Someone has to speakup for these women and I am very shocked that Nancy Grace took the route she did.  There are children involved here and EVERYONE in that family on both sides have not been cleared.  Someone has to speak for those kids.

[Heart]

Good for Nancy.  This is sickening.  She is all duded up too.  Got on makeup and a dress.  But, there she goes dabbing those eyes with that kleenex.

Now she looks like a liar.  IMO
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Crystal wasn't around when Haleigh went missing.  Haleigh went missing on Ron's watch not Crystal's.  Why are YOU being so hard on Crystal?

I think it is because I am a mother and I cannot imagine giving up my children without a fight.  I don't believe Ron would not let her communicate with them between visits.  I believe that mainly because she was still getting them every two weeks and yet she was greatly behind in her child support.  She has made no effort to raise them or get them back.

They have been with their father since Haleigh was two and Junior was less than a year old.  If there was abuse going on and she did not notice it then she is not a mother that is aware of her children.  Neither may be fit, but he has taken care of them and no one has complained so far.

I am watching the interview right now and am seeing her (Crystal) rolling her eyes.  The same as Ron.  So what say you about that?  I say it is because for both of them they are disagreeing with what the interviewer is saying and no other reason. 

I also say that there is going to be more speculation now that Crystal has come out and opened herself up for attacks.  I am not being hard on her anymore than people have been hard on Ron's side.  I think the same opining should be good for one as for the other.  There are flaws and falicies in both their information. 

As with Ron just because he or she is saying it does not make it true.  She has come forward with these allegations and now she has opened herself up for scrutiny.  And since none of us know the truth about what happened I am expressing my opinion. 

 

I'm a mother too, and although I can't imagine ever leaving my children, it sounds like Ron picks weak, dependent womennon-parented needed little girls, (Crystal was also 14 years old when her and Ron got together). He does this because he himself is weak, insecure and a bully, (and also not mature 25 year old)  He plays dirty and just listening to his part of the 911 call tells me he is a domineering chauvinistic azz.  I'm not sure Crystal is any better, but I can see where someone like Ron would intimidate and scare her into staying away.  I don't for one sorry second believe he is a great father. 

All of this bunch are super super dysfunctional, imho. 

Also, if you were watching, she's brought these allegations before.  Nancy backed off a little when she shut up long enough to hear that.

I said earlier today that this will also be a battle between the city slicker attorney (which she has called herself) vs the backwood country bumpkins.

Wonder why none of the backwood country bumpkins have retained a city slicker attorney.  You know they have had plenty of offers to represent them "pro bono".  They all want in on the band wagon.

Well according to Misty, she does not need an attorney.  According to Misty attorneys are for the guilty and according to Misty she is not guilty.

Thats what I hear, but Misty is only part of the equation.  Allegations are flying toward the whole family.

IMHO it will be Kim P. and crew against the Cummings, Satsuma LE, DCF, etc.

Kim P has referred to this herself.

[mioyshi]

Little Misty with her eigth grade education and tons of life experience said only guilty people get lawyers.. 
Here's the link to tell Nancy what you thought of her tonight.. I DID 
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?81

Thanks, I for one will be offering her a little "feedback" tonight

Thank You Island, I also sent her a -----nice----- little e-mail............

I too mailed ng a short little thought. 

[danabar]

Thanks for the link Flamon, she got an ear full from me !

[flamom]

I hope everyone sends Nancy a message.. I told her to lighten up and chill out..