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« Reply #380 on: October 25, 2006, 10:41:30 AM »

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KBM - last night you said you were still in high school.  Are you attending ISA?  Did you go to school with Joran?

uhm im in colegio arubano - what i do is called "havo" - no

Colegio Arubano would have been my next guess.  What does "havo" mean?
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« Reply #381 on: October 25, 2006, 10:43:24 AM »

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KBM - last night you said you were still in high school.  Are you attending ISA?  Did you go to school with Joran?

uhm im in colegio arubano - what i do is called "havo" - no

Colegio Arubano would have been my next guess.  What does "havo" mean?

Havo (hoger algemeen voortgezet onderwijs) i think its something like hs
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« Reply #382 on: October 25, 2006, 10:44:00 AM »

hi everyone and welcome to kbm (very close to my initials ... )

kbm -- did you see the picture of the house and the picture of the van that klaas posted last night?  Was wondering if you'd ever seen these.
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« Reply #383 on: October 25, 2006, 10:45:58 AM »

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hi everyone and welcome to kbm (very close to my initials ... )

kbm -- did you see the picture of the house and the picture of the van that klaas posted last night?  Was wondering if you'd ever seen these.

uhm i never saw the house...but i did see the van twice. i has a big speaker inside Razz
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« Reply #384 on: October 25, 2006, 10:46:23 AM »

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KBM - last night you said you were still in high school.  Are you attending ISA?  Did you go to school with Joran?

uhm im in colegio arubano - what i do is called "havo" - no

Colegio Arubano would have been my next guess.  What does "havo" mean?

Havo (hoger algemeen voortgezet onderwijs) i think its something like hs


Roughly translated:

higher commonly continued education

So it's more like continued education than high school.  In the USA we would not consider that still being in high school.  We would consider it maybe a Jr. College?
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« Reply #385 on: October 25, 2006, 10:47:47 AM »

I need some coffee, so maybe a ride to Starbucks might work..  I think I need to learn to not offer to do things for people.. My friend that I played tennis with last night is going to Columbia, SA for 12 days and I told him I would drive him down to Miami and pick him up and also feed his pets for him.. His ex_gf told him that she too was going to be out of town, so I felt bad and offered.. See you later alligators!
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« Reply #386 on: October 25, 2006, 10:48:28 AM »

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hi everyone and welcome to kbm (very close to my initials ... )

kbm -- did you see the picture of the house and the picture of the van that klaas posted last night?  Was wondering if you'd ever seen these.

uhm i never saw the house...but i did see the van twice. i has a big speaker inside Razz


do you remember who was driving the van or who owns it?
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« Reply #387 on: October 25, 2006, 10:49:15 AM »

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KBM - last night you said you were still in high school.  Are you attending ISA?  Did you go to school with Joran?

uhm im in colegio arubano - what i do is called "havo" - no

Colegio Arubano would have been my next guess.  What does "havo" mean?

Havo (hoger algemeen voortgezet onderwijs) i think its something like hs


Roughly translated:

higher commonly continued education

So it's more like continued education than high school.  In the USA we would not consider that still being in high school.  We would consider it maybe a Jr. College?

yeh possible.
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« Reply #388 on: October 25, 2006, 10:50:20 AM »

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hi everyone and welcome to kbm (very close to my initials ... )

kbm -- did you see the picture of the house and the picture of the van that klaas posted last night?  Was wondering if you'd ever seen these.

uhm i never saw the house...but i did see the van twice. i has a big speaker inside Razz


do you remember who was driving the van or who owns it?

no i dont know who was driving it. but didnt "lorenzo" owned it?
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« Reply #389 on: October 25, 2006, 10:51:05 AM »

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hi everyone and welcome to kbm (very close to my initials ... )

kbm -- did you see the picture of the house and the picture of the van that klaas posted last night?  Was wondering if you'd ever seen these.

uhm i never saw the house...but i did see the van twice. i has a big speaker inside Razz


do you remember who was driving the van or who owns it?

no i dont know who was driving it. but didnt "lorenzo" owned it?


but, who's lorenzo?
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« Reply #390 on: October 25, 2006, 10:52:10 AM »

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hi everyone and welcome to kbm (very close to my initials ... )

kbm -- did you see the picture of the house and the picture of the van that klaas posted last night?  Was wondering if you'd ever seen these.

uhm i never saw the house...but i did see the van twice. i has a big speaker inside Razz


do you remember who was driving the van or who owns it?

no i dont know who was driving it. but didnt "lorenzo" owned it?


but, who's lorenzo?

hehe i dont know...maybe klaas knows?
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« Reply #391 on: October 25, 2006, 10:53:42 AM »

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hi everyone and welcome to kbm (very close to my initials ... )

kbm -- did you see the picture of the house and the picture of the van that klaas posted last night?  Was wondering if you'd ever seen these.

uhm i never saw the house...but i did see the van twice. i has a big speaker inside Razz


do you remember who was driving the van or who owns it?

no i dont know who was driving it. but didnt "lorenzo" owned it?


but, who's lorenzo?

hehe i dont know...maybe klaas knows?


could "lorenzo" be someone's nickname?
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« Reply #392 on: October 25, 2006, 10:53:43 AM »

KBM - We have been told this is Lorenzo's van.  You say it has big speakers.  Did you see who was driving the van?  Thanks!



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« Reply #393 on: October 25, 2006, 10:54:52 AM »

"After the beach..."

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From LCD 535, pp's 43 & 44.  Florida posts:

@1:33 am

Hiram saw Natalee from his window....Into his neighbor's house.

@1:38 am

If Hiram saw Natalee after the beach....She must have been alive.......

@1:42 am (Hiram's neighbors)

Either Michael Posner or Louis Posner........Hiram is between them.

@1:44 am (AZLady: Did Hiram tell the polis...)  

No.

@2:03 am  (AZLady: How many people know that Hiram saw Natalee...)

Very few....Me, someone & ROY.
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Steve Croes also said he saw Natalee "after" the beach.  But his story included the HI drop off and walkie-talkie carrying security guards.

All of this is interesting.  But how does Jan van der Straaten know to relay -- however indiscreetly --  to Paulus that Natalee was alive "after the beach" and had been sighted and that's why after their first round of questioning, the boys are not questioned again.  From Paulus' statement:

....From what little information I got from Jan van der STRATEN, I got some hope that the girl was seen after she was dropped off at the Holiday Inn. He did not say this in so many words but I took that as an explanation as to why the boys weren't asked to give further statements to the police...."

Or is this Paulus and van der Straaten creating the false witness story for Steve Croes (or Hiram)?

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« Reply #394 on: October 25, 2006, 10:56:19 AM »

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KBM - We have been told this is Lorenzo's van.  You say it has big speakers.  Did you see who was driving the van?  Thanks!




no, i think i saw it like 2years ago or something Razz
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« Reply #395 on: October 25, 2006, 10:56:52 AM »

Good morning.

kbm, are you at school, now?  If so, I guess you are multi-tasking like some here who work and lurk/post.   Smile  Wink
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« Reply #396 on: October 25, 2006, 10:57:01 AM »

HAMMER - Very possible another false witness story.  Hiram is a friend of Joran.
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« Reply #397 on: October 25, 2006, 10:57:14 AM »

looks like JORANSTEIN driving the van  Cool
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« Reply #398 on: October 25, 2006, 10:57:26 AM »

kbm - do you recognize the driver of the van in klaas' picture?
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« Reply #399 on: October 25, 2006, 10:57:47 AM »

KBM - thanks for your answer regarding the van, much appreciated.
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