Lively Case Discussion #536 10/24 - 10/25/2006

[mrs. red]

KBM are you telling us that Dompig has a lawsuit from jvds and K2?



Klaasend... check your email...

[nonesuche]

kbm-

are your parents friends with Paulus and Anita von der Sloot?

[AZLady]

kbm, have you had time to read the statements yet?  It's a lot of reading.  I would recommend you print them out and read them, one at a time.  Use your pen or highlighter as you read and keep track of the different versions of what happened.  Then, show these to your friends and family.  Let them make up their own minds, as educated and intelligent people should.

[San]

kbm, no one here is against you.  We are quite amazed that the people of Aruba, and you, hold such beliefs without any evidence or proof.  We find it amazing that the people of Aruba do not read or know the facts in this case.

Well maybe kbm can help out in that area.  He can spread the word to his friends and family and ask them to read the statements and they will see why the Americans think J2K are guilty.  Word of mouth.

so in other words i have to tell my friends and family that joran is guilty?>

If that is how you read the statements then I guess they are guilty.  I only mentioned for you to tell them to read the statements.  They can draw their own conclusion.  Are you saying the statements are false?

[kbm]

kbm, no one here is against you.  We are quite amazed that the people of Aruba, and you, hold such beliefs without any evidence or proof.  We find it amazing that the people of Aruba do not read or know the facts in this case.

Well maybe kbm can help out in that area.  He can spread the word to his friends and family and ask them to read the statements and they will see why the Americans think J2K are guilty.  Word of mouth.

so in other words i have to tell my friends and family that joran is guilty?>

What Has JOran Told Your Family & Friends ....

That He Is Innocent ..........

Come On Dude


 

yeh
i think he's just unlucky..and he was at the wrong place at the wrong time...having nothing to do with the dissapearence

[robots]

kbm, no one here is against you.  We are quite amazed that the people of Aruba, and you, hold such beliefs without any evidence or proof.  We find it amazing that the people of Aruba do not read or know the facts in this case.

Well maybe kbm can help out in that area.  He can spread the word to his friends and family and ask them to read the statements and they will see why the Americans think J2K are guilty.  Word of mouth.

so in other words i have to tell my friends and family that joran is guilty?>

YES

[Anna]

Steve Cohen official spokespersosn for AHATA said they were all guilty as hell, too and that two of them claimed to have had sex with Natalee.

She attended her Bible Study every morning before school.  Bet that was tough with all that drinking and partying she did, right?

No, you don't have to say Joran is guilty but you might explain there is an insurance data bank of all policies and they didn't even have one to pay the cost of her funeral.

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[Jacqueline]

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What Has JOran Told Your Family & Friends ....

That He Is Innocent ..........

Come On Dude


 

yeh
i think he's just unlucky..and he was at the wrong place at the wrong time...having nothing to do with the dissapearence[/quote]

I'm thinking natalee is the unlucky one to have met up with him.

[WidgetTheMidget]

kbm, no one here is against you.  We are quite amazed that the people of Aruba, and you, hold such beliefs without any evidence or proof.  We find it amazing that the people of Aruba do not read or know the facts in this case.

Well maybe kbm can help out in that area.  He can spread the word to his friends and family and ask them to read the statements and they will see why the Americans think J2K are guilty.  Word of mouth.

so in other words i have to tell my friends and family that joran is guilty?>

What Has JOran Told Your Family & Friends ....

That He Is Innocent ..........

Come On Dude


 

yeh
i think he's just unlucky..and he was at the wrong place at the wrong time...having nothing to do with the dissapearence

Him Being Unlucky Has Not Come To Past Yet Dude .............

I Doubt If He Will See HIs 21st Birthday ..............

 

[AZLady]

yeh
i think he's just unlucky..and he was at the wrong place at the wrong time...having nothing to do with the dissapearence

kbm, in my experience, there is very little in this world to do with luck.  People create their own luck.

[AZLady]

If you believe in the Catholic religion, then you probably believe in free will.  People make choices and these effect the outcome of events.  No luck there.

[Anna]

[yeh
i think he's just unlucky..and he was at the wrong place at the wrong time...having nothing to do with the dissapearence

I'm thinking natalee is the unlucky one to have met up with him.[/quote]

Hey, Jacque,

Now ain't that the truth!
 
Joran is running around smirking and mugging for the camera and saying some day he may actually tell what happened.  Natalee is likely stone cold dead.

Soneone so alive and young being killed for no reason is such a sad sad thing.

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[kbm]

kbm, have you had time to read the statements yet?  It's a lot of reading.  I would recommend you print them out and read them, one at a time.  Use your pen or highlighter as you read and keep track of the different versions of what happened.  Then, show these to your friends and family.  Let them make up their own minds, as educated and intelligent people should.

i read some of the statements.
but what i think happened is that the police for example said too 2k:
"joran said he's guilty and your also responsible" and viceversa

but in reallife joran didnt said that.

and then 2k says: "we have nothing to do with it. and joran is a big lyer"

and then maybe they got a "fight" with eachother and start talking crap. because they dont see each other.

[SunFreak2]

Thanks, KBM!  I thought it said he was arrested. So this de Vries guy is not afraid of anything and it seems he will go to any lengths to get his story.  Now that is the perfect person to be working on the Natalee Holloway case.  I'm glad that Beth was able to hook up with him!

youre welcome,

but imagine if joran would really be unguilty and then this Peter R. deVries confront/surprise him. then what would joran say?

Well KBM, how well do you trust this de Vries guy? Does he have the integrity to report things as they really are or does he just do stories for ratings?  If Joran is innocent then he will report that.  If Joran is guilty, let him report that too.  At least someone is looking at the story with a fresh eye.

[mrs. red]

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I'm thinking natalee is the unlucky one to have met up with him.

My SISTAH... says it like it is!!!

[kbm]

kbm, no one here is against you.  We are quite amazed that the people of Aruba, and you, hold such beliefs without any evidence or proof.  We find it amazing that the people of Aruba do not read or know the facts in this case.

Well maybe kbm can help out in that area.  He can spread the word to his friends and family and ask them to read the statements and they will see why the Americans think J2K are guilty.  Word of mouth.

so in other words i have to tell my friends and family that joran is guilty?>

What Has JOran Told Your Family & Friends ....

That He Is Innocent ..........

Come On Dude


 

yeh
i think he's just unlucky..and he was at the wrong place at the wrong time...having nothing to do with the dissapearence

Him Being Unlucky Has Not Come To Past Yet Dude .............

I Doubt If He Will See HIs 21st Birthday ..............

 

plz talk a litle bit as a adult man

[Jacqueline]

kbm, have you had time to read the statements yet?  It's a lot of reading.  I would recommend you print them out and read them, one at a time.  Use your pen or highlighter as you read and keep track of the different versions of what happened.  Then, show these to your friends and family.  Let them make up their own minds, as educated and intelligent people should.

i read some of the statements.
but what i think happened is that the police for example said too 2k:
"joran said he's guilty and your also responsible" and viceversa

but in reallife joran didnt said that.

and then 2k says: "we have nothing to do with it. and joran is a big lyer"

and then maybe they got a "fight" with eachother and start talking crap. because they dont see each other.

With all due respect your posts are beginning to sound like a big steaming pile of bullshit.

[Frijole]

kbm, have you had time to read the statements yet?  It's a lot of reading.  I would recommend you print them out and read them, one at a time.  Use your pen or highlighter as you read and keep track of the different versions of what happened.  Then, show these to your friends and family.  Let them make up their own minds, as educated and intelligent people should.

i read some of the statements.
but what i think happened is that the police for example said too 2k:
"joran said he's guilty and your also responsible" and viceversa

but in reallife joran didnt said that.

and then 2k says: "we have nothing to do with it. and joran is a big lyer"

and then maybe they got a "fight" with eachother and start talking crap. because they dont see each other.

Hi KBM- you are right.  This could have been what happened with those statements.

But here is the question --- If they were innocent, then why did they have to lie?  They could just tell the truth and we wouldn't be sitting here almost 2 yrs later debating it.

Can you see our point?

[Anna]

But KBM even by your theory that someone else took Natalee after Joran invisibly left her on the beach leaves him culpable.  Had he not lured Natalee into that car, she would have just returned to the HI with the rest of her group and been just fine and returned alive to her family.

See, even if he didn't do it, it is still his responsibility.  He should have seen her back to safety as she would have been if he had not come along with his dirty mind trying to have sex with her.

So any way you look at it, Joran's the one.

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[kbm]

kbm, have you had time to read the statements yet?  It's a lot of reading.  I would recommend you print them out and read them, one at a time.  Use your pen or highlighter as you read and keep track of the different versions of what happened.  Then, show these to your friends and family.  Let them make up their own minds, as educated and intelligent people should.

i read some of the statements.
but what i think happened is that the police for example said too 2k:
"joran said he's guilty and your also responsible" and viceversa

but in reallife joran didnt said that.

and then 2k says: "we have nothing to do with it. and joran is a big lyer"

and then maybe they got a "fight" with eachother and start talking crap. because they dont see each other.

With all due respect your posts are beginning to sound like a big steaming pile of bullshit.

why? i heard that police work like that