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« on: March 20, 2009, 06:20:42 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 10:53:31 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 10:54:00 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 10:55:16 PM »


Magnolia!   

That was a good one!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 10:55:27 PM »

 

Here and still laughing at the snorkelling water dog.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 10:57:12 PM »

I wonder if Dave Holloway has heard the tapes that TJ Ward gave to Greta about the Colombians.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 10:57:25 PM »

Is this the same pond that Kyle said they scanned and found tires, garbage etc but nothing of any interest?  And from looking at the pictures I cannot imagine it being 15 feet in any place as the pictures show it dried up and it looks no more than 2-3 feet at the most.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 10:57:34 PM »


Magnolia!   

That was a good one!   

He is actually a Snorkel Spaniel.
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Here and still laughing at the snorkelling water dog.

That was a good one!  
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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Here and still laughing at the snorkelling water dog.

At least this one can't give a thumb's down sign.  He has no thumbs.

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Magnolia!   

That was a good one!   

He is actually a Snorkel Spaniel.

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2009, 11:00:04 PM »

Is this the same pond that Kyle said they scanned and found tires, garbage etc but nothing of any interest?  And from looking at the pictures I cannot imagine it being 15 feet in any place as the pictures show it dried up and it looks no more than 2-3 feet at the most.


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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2009, 11:00:47 PM »

Ya know maybe Mos has made it clear this is the last chance for searching before he closes this case and If I was Dave I would want to give it another try even if the chances were remote of finding anything.  Mos will close this case and move on back to the NL and Aruba sure doesn't want to have this case unloaded on them when he leaves.  So I hope something is found to find closure but I am not holding my breath on this.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2009, 11:01:01 PM »


Magnolia!   

That was a good one!   

He is actually a Snorkel Spaniel.

 
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2009, 11:01:34 PM »

You are left me again.

 

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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2009, 11:02:16 PM »

Maybe it's one of those Portuguese Water dogs?!!

I'm tracking with you Janet on the "maybe Aruba decided it's time to plant the body somewhere for easy transfer back to the US".  So the pond is full.  Are they going to put the bones in something that floats to make it easier for them to locate?  LOL  Or maybe they'll conveniently be placed at the waters edge?  This is insane.



They will be in those zip lok bags we saw from the Rov pictures.

    

I so hope that Aruba is about to give Natalee back.  Unfortunately, I don't think they are smart enough to do it.

They need to give her back, and then Close the Case.

Then the family/JQK can get the case file... and we'll get Joran brought to Justice without ALE...there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Give her back and Close the Case, Aruba...before Mos leaves.  Hmmm...maybe.



I suspect that Aruba will never close the Natalee Holloway case.  Those case file that Dutch Law states can be turned over to the FBI upon request would expose this investigation for what it was ... corrupt ... a coverup.

Once Natalee Holloway's remains are returned to her family ... the case will remain open but allowed to go cold.

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ART WOOD, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Absolutely. Absolutely. There's a lot that Americans can do through the State Department. I want to remind everybody that Natalee Holloway was a U.S. citizen. Once the Aruban authorities are done investigating this case, the FBI can still conduct an investigation, and they could extradite these suspects to the United States. Let me point out that there's a ton of circumstantial evidence in this case to convict these kids.

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Magnolia!   

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2009, 11:03:12 PM »

You are left me again.

 

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2009, 11:04:15 PM »

Ya know maybe Mos has made it clear this is the last chance for searching before he closes this case and If I was Dave I would want to give it another try even if the chances were remote of finding anything.  Mos will close this case and move on back to the NL and Aruba sure doesn't want to have this case unloaded on them when he leaves.  So I hope something is found to find closure but I am not holding my breath on this.


I hope that is the reason, BlueMoon.  I hope Dave is not doing this just because of the harassment of gloryhounds and attention seekers just insisting they have some sort of inside information that they don't.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2009, 11:04:56 PM »

Is this the same pond that Kyle said they scanned and found tires, garbage etc but nothing of any interest?  And from looking at the pictures I cannot imagine it being 15 feet in any place as the pictures show it dried up and it looks no more than 2-3 feet at the most.


Kyle on the side sonar results of the pond:

Kyle wrote April 7 2008:
There are 18 targets. Two are definitely tires. The rest, who knows. It's likely tin cans, mud clumps, and debris. There is one small box-like target but it's only 2ft across and doesn't have much relief, unless it's completely sunk into the mud (likely). I can find something about the size of a hockey puck with that system in good conditions. The water was very shallow when this survey was done. Remember, in February 2006 the pond was almost dry.


In the meantime, the Americans, with police permission, made a sonar
test of the Dam of Monserat in the beginning of this year, when the
level of the water was low.  DIARIO has found out that this test
discovered 15 objects of interest and that they could define only 3 of
them

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/12/search-for-natalee-hollowaytim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-new-witness-in-aruba-discusions-with-proecutor-hans-mos-polygraph-exams/
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