Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09

[San]

Good Evening Monkeys.... Blue Moon, yucatexan, texasmom, Keepthefaith, mysterious, mytime, AZSunny, San, Tamikosmom, klaasend, billb, SuzieQ, Mere, Lifesong, Magnolia, codemonkey, Frijole, Monkey Mia, oldiebutgoodie, cajun miracle and 22 Guests .....


I see that the Fred and Rhino search has probably not even happened yet since the ALE was not around over the weekend to supervise....So tomorrow may be the day that the planted remains of Natalee might be found....JMO...I don't care who finds them or where as long as Dave and Beth get Her back and put Her to Rest in Peace....in the USA...Joran, Paulus and The Rest of the Gang will pay for Their actions against Natalee one of this days and it won't be fun for them....... So Joran and Paulus have as much fun as You can now because Karma is a B*itch and its going to get Ya......

Kermit....I will do My part to keep digging....  

I agree Hotping.  As long as she is Home that is all that matters.

[billb's daughter]

TAMIKOSMOM'S THEORY - IN A NUTSHELL

I believe this latest "pond search" is all connected to the happenings encompassing the trap discovered by the Persistence.

I do believe that Aruba may be about to give back Natalee Holloway's remains to her family.  However ... the origin of those remains cannot be revealed.  The trap implies Joran van der Sloot did not act alone in the disposal of Natalee Holloway's body.  Therefore the remains taken from the trap were planted in another location ... the pond and a witness that implicates only Joran materialize.

Think about it.

Joran was seventeen years old ... a minor ... on May 30, 2005.  Justice implies he will receive a slap on the wrist.

Paulus will admit he lied about picking up Joran but ... there will be no consequences for obstruction of the investigation.  Apparently ... family members who obstruct the investigation are given a pass by Dutch law.

Case Closed!

Janet

+++++++

‘The Abrams Report’ for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777

I don't necessarily disagree with your post above Janet....Didn't caps witness also state he saw paulass pick up urine in his jeep? How will that be discounted if the first part is believed?

My point is that IF remains are found, there won't be any other forensic evidence other then the remains are those of Natalee.....the remains will not point to the perps...
That will come from the dot connecting that is going on here at SM and hopefully followed up by FBI and other concerned entities..

[hotping]

Good Evening Monkeys.... Blue Moon, yucatexan, texasmom, Keepthefaith, mysterious, mytime, AZSunny, San, Tamikosmom, klaasend, billb, SuzieQ, Mere, Lifesong, Magnolia, codemonkey, Frijole, Monkey Mia, oldiebutgoodie, cajun miracle and 22 Guests .....


I see that the Fred and Rhino search has probably not even happened yet since the ALE was not around over the weekend to supervise....So tomorrow may be the day that the planted remains of Natalee might be found....JMO...I don't care who finds them or where as long as Dave and Beth get Her back and put Her to Rest in Peace....in the USA...Joran, Paulus and The Rest of the Gang will pay for Their actions against Natalee one of this days and it won't be fun for them....... So Joran and Paulus have as much fun as You can now because Karma is a B*itch and its going to get Ya......

Kermit....I will do My part to keep digging....  

Hi Hotping!  

Hi TM....I've been meaning to tell You Your Girls look Precious in Their Easter Avatar! 

[Magnolia]

Monkeys ... I want to share while Kermit is out of the cage.

My son-in-law just called.  He was just talking to my daughter who is in Montreal with their two eldest sons (9/11) for a Karate competition.  Apparently ... all three were taken out to a French restaurant tonight and ... you would never guess what was on the menu.  You are right!  Frog legs in a wine and butter sauce.  I knew that my daughter would not hesitate but ... I never thought my grandsons would partake.  I was wrong!

 

Remember ... do not tell Kermit.  Shhh

Janet

They taste swampy. IMO

[Tamikosmom]

TAMIKOSMOM'S THEORY - IN A NUTSHELL

I believe this latest "pond search" is all connected to the happenings encompassing the trap discovered by the Persistence.

I do believe that Aruba may be about to give back Natalee Holloway's remains to her family.  However ... the origin of those remains cannot be revealed.  The trap implies Joran van der Sloot did not act alone in the disposal of Natalee Holloway's body.  Therefore the remains taken from the trap were planted in another location ... the pond and a witness that implicates only Joran materialize.

Think about it.

Joran was seventeen years old ... a minor ... on May 30, 2005.  Justice implies he will receive a slap on the wrist.

Paulus will admit he lied about picking up Joran but ... there will be no consequences for obstruction of the investigation.  Apparently ... family members who obstruct the investigation are given a pass by Dutch law.

Case Closed!

Janet

+++++++

‘The Abrams Report’ for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777

I don't necessarily disagree with your post above Janet....Didn't caps witness also state he saw paulass pick up urine in his jeep? How will that be discounted if the first part is believed?

Paulus can claim that he had no part in Natalee Holloways demise ... no part in the disposal.  In other words ... he just picked up Joran after the fact not realizing what had just taken place.  He will claim he did not suspect until Beth and Jug arrived on his doorstep and ... that is the reason he lied ... the reason he obstructed the investigation.  However ... as I posted above ... his lying ... covering up for his son is not a felony.
Edit for typo
Janet

[Lifesong]

Monkeys ... I want to share while Kermit is out of the cage.

My son-in-law just called.  He was just talking to my daughter who is in Montreal with their two eldest sons (9/11) for a Karate competition.  Apparently ... all three were taken out to a French restaurant tonight and ... you would never guess what was on the menu.  You are right!  Frog legs in a wine and butter sauce.  I knew that my daughter would not hesitate but ... I never thought my grandsons would partake.  I was wrong!

 

Remember ... do not tell Kermit.  Shhh

Janet

    

[hotping]

Monkeys ... I want to share while Kermit is out of the cage.

My son-in-law just called.  He was just talking to my daughter who is in Montreal with their two eldest sons (9/11) for a Karate competition.  Apparently ... all three were taken out to a French restaurant tonight and ... you would never guess what was on the menu.  You are right!  Frog legs in a wine and butter sauce.  I knew that my daughter would not hesitate but ... I never thought my grandsons would partake.  I was wrong!

 

Remember ... do not tell Kermit.  Shhh

Janet

French Frogs! 

[cajun miracle]

Natalee needs to come home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cajun Miracle

[billb's daughter]

TAMIKOSMOM'S THEORY - IN A NUTSHELL

I believe this latest "pond search" is all connected to the happenings encompassing the trap discovered by the Persistence.

I do believe that Aruba may be about to give back Natalee Holloway's remains to her family.  However ... the origin of those remains cannot be revealed.  The trap implies Joran van der Sloot did not act alone in the disposal of Natalee Holloway's body.  Therefore the remains taken from the trap were planted in another location ... the pond and a witness that implicates only Joran materialize.

Think about it.

Joran was seventeen years old ... a minor ... on May 30, 2005.  Justice implies he will receive a slap on the wrist.

Paulus will admit he lied about picking up Joran but ... there will be no consequences for obstruction of the investigation.  Apparently ... family members who obstruct the investigation are given a pass by Dutch law.

Case Closed!

Janet

+++++++

‘The Abrams Report’ for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777

I don't necessarily disagree with your post above Janet....Didn't caps witness also state he saw paulass pick up urine in his jeep? How will that be discounted if the first part is believed?

Paulus can claim that he had no part in Natalee Holloways demise ... no part in the disposal.  In other words ... he just picked up Joran after the fact not realizing what had just taken place.  He will claim he did not suspect until Beth and Jug arrived on his doorstep and ... that is the reason he lied ... the reason he obstruction the investigation.  However ... as I posed above ... his lying ... covering up for his son is not a felony.

Janet

Janet..Now I do totally agree with your scenario...
The dot connecting by Monkeys (and Freebirds) here at SM followed up/in concert with the FBI and other entities...
will be paulass,urine's, John S, Louis S, tim T.Kyle, along with the rest of the perps and coverup crew...will ensure there downfall!! That is my desire for Justice for Natalee!!

[billb's daughter]

Hello Debbie, Magnolia, AZSunny, codemonkey, mysterious, tesfan, Monkey Mia, cajun miracle, 2NJSons_Mom, hotping, Puzzler, Mere, San, Tamikosmom, texasmom, Keepthefaith, ncbelle54, Helen Back and 21 Guests are viewing this topic.
What's up 21 guests viewing this topic?

[texasmom]

Good Evening Monkeys.... Blue Moon, yucatexan, texasmom, Keepthefaith, mysterious, mytime, AZSunny, San, Tamikosmom, klaasend, billb, SuzieQ, Mere, Lifesong, Magnolia, codemonkey, Frijole, Monkey Mia, oldiebutgoodie, cajun miracle and 22 Guests .....


I see that the Fred and Rhino search has probably not even happened yet since the ALE was not around over the weekend to supervise....So tomorrow may be the day that the planted remains of Natalee might be found....JMO...I don't care who finds them or where as long as Dave and Beth get Her back and put Her to Rest in Peace....in the USA...Joran, Paulus and The Rest of the Gang will pay for Their actions against Natalee one of this days and it won't be fun for them....... So Joran and Paulus have as much fun as You can now because Karma is a B*itch and its going to get Ya......

Kermit....I will do My part to keep digging....  

Hi Hotping!  

Hi TM....I've been meaning to tell You Your Girls look Precious in Their Easter Avatar! 

Thanks Hotping, CBB did a great job!  I love it!   

[hotping]

Natalee needs to come home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cajun Miracle

AMEN

[hotping]

Good Evening Monkeys.... Blue Moon, yucatexan, texasmom, Keepthefaith, mysterious, mytime, AZSunny, San, Tamikosmom, klaasend, billb, SuzieQ, Mere, Lifesong, Magnolia, codemonkey, Frijole, Monkey Mia, oldiebutgoodie, cajun miracle and 22 Guests .....


I see that the Fred and Rhino search has probably not even happened yet since the ALE was not around over the weekend to supervise....So tomorrow may be the day that the planted remains of Natalee might be found....JMO...I don't care who finds them or where as long as Dave and Beth get Her back and put Her to Rest in Peace....in the USA...Joran, Paulus and The Rest of the Gang will pay for Their actions against Natalee one of this days and it won't be fun for them....... So Joran and Paulus have as much fun as You can now because Karma is a B*itch and its going to get Ya......

Kermit....I will do My part to keep digging....  

Hi Hotping!  

Hi TM....I've been meaning to tell You Your Girls look Precious in Their Easter Avatar! 

Thanks Hotping, CBB did a great job!  I love it!   

I Love it Too! CBB is the Best! 

[MuffyBee]

billb ~   About those 21 guests:

1.  Maybe they can't get in.  (banned or not a member yet)

2.  Maybe they wish to remain anonymous. 

3.  Maybe they haven't taken time to sign in and will do so when they want to post something.

Just tossing some ideas around...

Don't know what's up with 'em, though, and not sure if they can answer...

[Lifesong]

Natalee needs to come home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cajun Miracle

By whatever means necessary! 

If it takes Fred "Dompig's Bud" & Rhino "LightTanks" Golba, the snorkeling/scuba-diving cadaver dog...then more power to them...Bring our girl home!

Show up with a fricking shoe with no forensics on it and we're gonna have your ass.

 

[hotping]

charlierat says:
Sady, if this is indeed Natalee's body, they still have to determine the cause of death and, if it is due to foul play, there still has to be a forensic link to Joran (or someone else, for that matter) before anyone can be arrested.

Still, I hope that this is the brek we have all been waiting for. I'm not holding my breath this time, though.

Posted On: Friday, Mar. 20 2009 @ 3:26PM

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/juice/2009/03/natalee_holloway_body_found_aruba.php

[Blue Moon]

charlierat says:
Sady, if this is indeed Natalee's body, they still have to determine the cause of death and, if it is due to foul play, there still has to be a forensic link to Joran (or someone else, for that matter) before anyone can be arrested.

Still, I hope that this is the brek we have all been waiting for. I'm not holding my breath this time, though.

Posted On: Friday, Mar. 20 2009 @ 3:26PM

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/juice/2009/03/natalee_holloway_body_found_aruba.php

and he is a supposed lawyer?

Calling it a night.  Have a good one.

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

[texasmom]

charlierat says:
Sady, if this is indeed Natalee's body, they still have to determine the cause of death and, if it is due to foul play, there still has to be a forensic link to Joran (or someone else, for that matter) before anyone can be arrested.

Still, I hope that this is the brek we have all been waiting for. I'm not holding my breath this time, though.

Posted On: Friday, Mar. 20 2009 @ 3:26PM

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/juice/2009/03/natalee_holloway_body_found_aruba.php

and he is a supposed lawyer?

Calling it a night.  Have a good one.

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

Good night Blue Moon!   

[BUCKSHOT]

Natalee needs to come home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cajun Miracle

By whatever means necessary! 

If it takes Fred "Dompig's Bud" & Rhino "LightTanks" Golba, the snorkeling/scuba-diving cadaver dog...then more power to them...Bring our girl home!

Show up with a fricking shoe with no forensics on it and we're gonna have your ass.

 

Freddy probably has special mud swamp vision goggles.  

[Mere]

Good night monkeys....

Good night friends who are guests.....

Happy Birthday OS......

See you all tomorrow.....Mere