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« Reply #540 on: March 23, 2009, 05:06:39 PM »

HLN says NAH coming up next
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« Reply #541 on: March 23, 2009, 05:10:35 PM »

HLN says NAH coming up next

Please update us if you can, Mere.
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« Reply #542 on: March 23, 2009, 05:11:30 PM »

OMG....Renfroe .....HLN
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« Reply #543 on: March 23, 2009, 05:15:58 PM »

The story is the one you already know....the witness who passed the polygraph....the story about the witness being awakened and seeing joran....then there is discussion of another pond in the direction of the VDS home....it dries up part of the year....she is glad that Fred is here.
He is very professional and he works well with the authorities.

Coming up....Julia, where is JVDS at this time????  Answer coming up.

I am the worse one to get info from the news....wish San were here....lol.
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« Reply #544 on: March 23, 2009, 05:18:30 PM »

The story is the one you already know....the witness who passed the polygraph....the story about the witness being awakened and seeing joran....then there is discussion of another pond in the direction of the VDS home....it dries up part of the year....she is glad that Fred is here.
He is very professional and he works well with the authorities.

Coming up....Julia, where is JVDS at this time????  Answer coming up.

I am the worse one to get info from the news....wish San were here....lol.

Thank you Mere.

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« Reply #545 on: March 23, 2009, 05:22:13 PM »

Dave is sending this team to search.....

Question...Where there chaperones?  Mike answers....yes there were.....

Any leads?  Mike answers....this is the best lead...this witness.

Mike is going from one thing to the next....bits of everything that has happened....

Julia is back....does not know where Joran is....she thinks Holland.

Julia....nothing new except this one witness....thinks case will go cold.

Mike....Dave holds out hope that they will find her remains.

Think this will be repeated during the next few hours on other programs of HLN.
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« Reply #546 on: March 23, 2009, 05:27:58 PM »

Dave is sending this team to search.....

Question...Where there chaperones?  Mike answers....yes there were.....

Any leads?  Mike answers....this is the best lead...this witness.

Mike is going from one thing to the next....bits of everything that has happened....

Julia is back....does not know where Joran is....she thinks Holland.

Julia....nothing new except this one witness....thinks case will go cold.

Mike....Dave holds out hope that they will find her remains.

Think this will be repeated during the next few hours on other programs of HLN.

Thanks Mere
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« Reply #547 on: March 23, 2009, 05:28:47 PM »

Dave is sending this team to search.....

Question...Where there chaperones?  Mike answers....yes there were.....

Any leads?  Mike answers....this is the best lead...this witness.

Mike is going from one thing to the next....bits of everything that has happened....

Julia is back....does not know where Joran is....she thinks Holland.

Julia....nothing new except this one witness....thinks case will go cold.

Mike....Dave holds out hope that they will find her remains.

Think this will be repeated during the next few hours on other programs of HLN.
Hi Mere!  Thanks so much.
You poor thing you had to watch Julia, ugh.
Of course she would say that SHE thinks the case will go cold, because that is what she wants.
Also, I don't buy her claim that Joran is in Holland.
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« Reply #548 on: March 23, 2009, 05:29:15 PM »

Thanks mere!

You did great!!!
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« Reply #549 on: March 23, 2009, 05:31:03 PM »

It reminds me of the time Albert Vrolijk found panties and a condom.



Albert Vrolijk(Dj)-Friend of Satish & Deepak Kalpoe
Vernon Vrolijk-ATA/Regional sales representative,Marietta,GA
Humphrey Vrolijk-ATA/Europe area director
Hiram Vrolijk-Friend of Joran Van Der Sloot
Augustine Vrolijk-Director of Aruba's Foreign Affairs
Marysol Vrolijk-Secretary at Notary Office Aruba
Zernon Vrolijk-ATA
Alicia Vrolijk-Jr Account Manager/Aruba Bank NV


Will continue to ADD to the list...

AP Photo/Leo Vrolijk, Awe Mointa

alberto vrolijk/GOVT INSPECTOR
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=E7CD2EED-30F2-44E2-A45D-3529CF41A297

Alberto Vrolijk...Male, 51
san nicolaas
Aruba



Jose Vrolijk-Bus driver ISA
http://www.isaruba.com/Quick%20links/faculty_and_staff/Index.html


BRC MEMBERS RELATIONS DEPARTMENT
Direct number Ena Vrolijk

BRC GENERAL MANAGEMENT
Adm.Assistant/Executive Secretary Helen Werleman

http://www.lacabanabrc.com/members/directory.shtml

Willem Vrolijk/Politicians and air traffic controller
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67682

Orlando Vrolijk/Aruba Surf Club Guest Relations
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147247-i144-k1352085-Safes_at_Marriott_Surf_Club-Aruba.html

Mr. Ival VrolijkSETAR N.V. - Aruba
http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/finance/work-cost-tariffs/events/tariff-seminars/trinidad-tobago-03/listofparticipants.pdf

Danilo Vrolijk /PEL Officer
http://www.airsafetyfirst.com/chart.php

Ricardo Vrolijk /Assistant Controller.Marriott’s Aruba Ocean Club
http://www.arubaoceanclub.com/pdfs/OceanFallCOA.doc


VERY INTERESTING EHHHH......




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« Reply #550 on: March 23, 2009, 05:32:10 PM »

Great job & thank you, Mere!  Same ole story & Julia gets her air time. 
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« Reply #551 on: March 23, 2009, 05:32:10 PM »

OMG....Renfroe .....HLN

She hasn't changed a bit in 4 years 

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« Reply #552 on: March 23, 2009, 05:34:29 PM »

Aruba Lions Club

Members List 2004-2005
 
Last Name First Name IM# Sponsor Lioness Edate
Alders Derwin 000 Junior Angela Vilka 10-'03
Angela Mariano A. "Juni" 179 Rollyn Angela Sharon   
Arends E.R. "Ebby" 001 Harry Posner   10-'63
Arends E.R. "Elbert Jr." 159 Ebby Arends   10-'97
Arends F. "Francis" 165 Glenn Marugg Carol 12-'97
Arends M.F. "Bibi" 176 Maiky Croes Vanessa 02-'99
Arendsz A.J. "Adri" 107 Maiky Croes Chima 12-'86
Bikker A.C.G. "Andin" 190 Franky Kuiperi Lorena 10-'00
Boekhoudt R. "Tendo" 151 Elias Fingal Marianita 05-'96
Buckley A. "Yeyo" 156 Louis van Delden Magda 12-'96
Clement D.I. "Daniel" 149 Maiky Croes   04-'96
Croes C.F. "Carlos" 103 Charlie Lampe Betty 06-'85
Croes F.H. "Frank" 112 Maiky Croes Baby 03-'88
Croes J.M. "Max" 005 Frans Croes Marie Therese   
Croes M.L. "Maiky" 077 Oscar Marugg Ada 02-'78
Croes M.L. "Marlon" 166 Elias Fingal   02-'98
Croes P.A. "Pablo" 059 Elias Fingal   03-'75
Croes R.C.F. "Randal" 167 Frank Croes Ana Maria 02-'98
Croes R.W. I "Chobby" 032 Oscar Marugg Enid 01-'70
Croes R.W. II "Robčrt" 161 Glenn Marugg Natasha 12-'86
Cuba de L.L. "Ildo" 137 Frank Croes   10-'92
Daryanani S.D. "Satish" 108 Noppy Henriquez † Karin 12-'86
Delden van L.F. "Louis" 135 Frank Croes Teresita 12-'91
Donata J.O. "Jaime" 155 Carlos E. Maduro   01-'97
Duran F.S. Jr. "Fillmon" 170 V. Hill Maysen 11-'74
Fingal Elias 047 Horacio Oduber   05-'72
Fingal H.R. "Henry" 177 Maiky Croes   11-'98
Fowler E.D.C. "Benky" 021 Kees de Jong Lucia 12-'66
Fuentebella C.E. "Toty"   Frank Croes     
Goedhoop Ruben 183 Daniel Clement Selena 11-'99
Gröder D.R. "Boepi" 115 Modesto Ruiz   04-'88
Harms Clyde   Frank Croes   06-'04
Jansen J.L. "Ludwig"   Junior Angela Astrid 10-'03
Jelten E. "Eddy" 168 Frank Croes Rosalia 02-'98
Kock G.F. "Giovanni" 192 Junior Angela Suzy 10-'00
Kock J.H. "John" 193 Tendo Boekhoudt Marina 10-'00
Kock P. "Pierre"   Junior Angela   10-'03
Koolman Olindo 110 Maiky Croes Dora 12-'87
Kuiperi F.A. "Franky" 143 Louis van Delden Shirley 07-'94
Laclé Jaime 180 Robert Croes I Helena 08-'99
Lampe C. "Charlie" 051 Robert Croes I Elsa 12-'72
Lampe C.M. "Mike" 152 Maiky Croes Elina 05-'96
Lopez E.M. "Tito" 169 Maiky Croes Ana Clara 02-;98
Maduro C.E. "Carlos" 113 John de Vries   03-'88
Maduro Urbano 052 Robert Croes I Poppy 12-'72
Maldonado Rogelio 079 Alfonso Mirep Cathy 02-'78
Marugg G.H. "Glenn" 148 Oscar Marugg Sara 05-'72
Marugg Oscar 015 Wim Schol Celsa 02-'54
Mata J.A. "Jaime" 182 Mike Lampe Joan 10-'99
Nicolaas R.H. "Ronny" 098 Michael Fowler Bea 09-'80
Paris E.L. "Eddy" 162 Glenn Marugg Lissette 10-'97
Oduber H.L. "Horacio" 026 Kees de Jong Marieta 10-'68
Ruiz M.L. "Dede" 071 Elias Fingal Rocio 04-'76
Ridderstap A.S. "Alberto" 144 Louis van Delden Maria 09-'94
Solagnier M.A. "Marcel" 172 Frank Croes Jo-Ann 04-'98
Simon George 163 Frank Croes Aura 10-'97
Mirep A. "Fon" 016 José Walfanzan   03-'52
Tromp J. "Chinto" 114 Carlos Croes Denicia 03-'88
Tromp Omar   Adri Arendsz Tamara 07-'03
Vries de J.J.P. "John" 106 Maiky Croes Susana 06-'86
Vrolijk Augustin 164 Maiky Croes Minerva   
Wever K.E.O. "Karel" 125 Carlos Croes Danilla 02-'90
Wijk van Giovanni 181 Rollyn Angela Yolima 08-'99
Wolter O.J. "Otto" 153 Alberto Ridderstap Rosy 05-'96
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« Reply #553 on: March 23, 2009, 05:34:44 PM »

Klaas, make a wish!  We posted at the exact same time and had similar thoughts..
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« Reply #554 on: March 23, 2009, 05:34:50 PM »

OMG....Renfroe .....HLN

She hasn't changed a bit in 4 years 


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« Reply #555 on: March 23, 2009, 05:35:20 PM »

Elaine .....lol.....she was on the phone...!

The beautiful pictures that we have of Natalee were on the screen....and that was good, but
there was very little to no concrete information given.

I think JVM and NG will also have something later.

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« Reply #556 on: March 23, 2009, 05:35:49 PM »

go here and scroll down a little -

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.60

you'll see this -



Alturist says - Reply #71 on: September 10, 2008, 02:27:33 PM
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wow Rob, never even thought about that when previously looking at that photo but with that 5 gallon bucket (what it looks like) sitting there which it would take like what do you figure 4+ of those lined up to make it over 5'?

Uggghhhhhhh.

then you'll need to go here -

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.120

here I ask Mr. Illogical, otherwise known as WLC, exactly this
« Reply #131 on: September 10, 2008, 06:12:43 PM »
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Caps - are you saying that the body of Natalee was in that pond and not just evidence?

like this -
this references the above image.

Johan does a nice job of distracting me, but I'm determined to get my answer from Mr. Boolean Logic.
Here is five or so pages further and I ask again, cause he never answers.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.180
Reply #185 on: September 10, 2008, 09:58:37 PM
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Caps - is this right or was it just a shoe?
again that is in reference to the above image. (here I'm starting to believe there is something to this lunatic's thinking pattern)

Caps, go right by the question twice now, and he keeps on answering other questions.

SS says -
Reply #192 on: September 10, 2008, 10:12:50 PM

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Rob - it looks like you are correct with the body.  If she was in the pond temporarily, the Dutch forensics people and their dogs might have found some DNA evidence of her temporary location after the pond was drained.  We had lots of discussions about why that earth was disturbed only in that location and why the white bucket was sitting there.  It must have been the spot where she was resting on the bottom of the pond.  Urine must have carried her into the pond or perhaps they did use one of the small inflatable boats from LVR or Renfro's watersports companies.  Remember how Renfro posted at RU that there was no activity going on at the pond, while we were simultaneously being told that the area was roped off, lights were on all night, and 40-50 Dtuch forensics people were there with dogs?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.180

Apparently I do not get my answer. I asked twice and he ignored it both times and question and answer time continued. I would think if this pond was soooooooooo important and the witness is HIS - he would know if it was the body or the shoe..

btw - I love the name Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba -  THAT'S REALLY FUNNY










I always liked the question marks about the lid to the white bucket as well.  Even saw them called rib bones before.

Also

Janet,

I have to wonder why the tire isn't UNDER the mud and is just lying there on top of it as are a few other items.

I guess only shoes and Natalee go under the mud?

Now I wonder if this barrel is from where Silvetti said he collected soil samples, etc. that are still in the ALE fridge.  At least it is thought they are there but I doubt it.

Maybe Kyle should have super-imposed the image of Natalee over the alligatoring of the soil where the pond drained in order for it to be more convincing as it was in the trap.

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« Reply #557 on: March 23, 2009, 05:37:28 PM »

Klaas, make a wish!  We posted at the exact same time and had similar thoughts..

 
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« Reply #558 on: March 23, 2009, 05:38:12 PM »

The story is the one you already know....the witness who passed the polygraph....the story about the witness being awakened and seeing joran....then there is discussion of another pond in the direction of the VDS home....it dries up part of the year....she is glad that Fred is here.
He is very professional and he works well with the authorities.

Coming up....Julia, where is JVDS at this time????  Answer coming up.

I am the worse one to get info from the news....wish San were here....lol.


MeMere,

You did great! 

I hope Dave Holloway is on Nancy Grace tonight but please, please not Julia again!
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« Reply #559 on: March 23, 2009, 05:40:58 PM »

Elaine .....lol.....she was on the phone...!

The beautiful pictures that we have of Natalee were on the screen....and that was good, but
there was very little to no concrete information given.

I think JVM and NG will also have something later.


Thank God she was only on phone!

Maybe we will hear more info later then, thanks again Mere.
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