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« Reply #840 on: March 24, 2009, 03:01:40 PM »

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_083114849.html

March 24 2009
Natalee Holloway update
Holloway trying to cover all the possibilities

By Brian Livingston


Dave Holloway, the father of missing teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared four years ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, said this morning he really doesn't think his daughter's body will be found during this latest search.

But he didn't want to spend the rest of his life wondering, "What if", either.

"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

The latest search is centered around a water run-off retaining pond on the island. Aruban police say previous searches of the marshy area have turned up nothing. Holloway admitted all indications have pointed to the ocean as to where his daughter's body is likely located. But the little bit of doubt placed in his head by this "witness" gave Holloway pause.

Holloway contracted a tracker dog specialist to begin his latest search for evidence into Natalee Holloway's May 2005 disappearance early Monday. Nothing was found during Monday's search.

Natalee Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she was last seen in May 2005 in the Aruban capital Oranjestad on the final night of a high school graduation trip. She reportedly left a bar with Dutch man Joran van der Sloot. No trace of her has been found despite extensive searches involving hundreds of volunteers, Aruban soldiers, FBI agents and even Dutch F-16 jets with special equipment.



The cruelty of the darkside in regards to how they have taken advantage of Dave Holloway is beyond dispicable.  This all began when Reality at BFN put Robin Holloway in touch with Mark Purcell.

The above post implies that Dave is seeing the light ... however Natalee's father has still not learned the ALE participation with the Fred Golba search is not a means to the truth regarding the morning of May 30, 2005 ... the he so desperately desires.

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Janet 

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I have made a lot of good friends here at BFN and other sites. I appreciate the efforts everyone has gone to in trying to help us out. Thank you to everyone. I have had the pleasure of talking and communicating with several on this board and would like to thank them and everyone, including especially Debbie, and thanks to Rammstein, Reality, MIP6 and gagirl for their help also. I know everyone won't agree on everything, but we need to keep focus on the real issue, Natalee.

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Robin Holloway
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I am not sure who is posting riddles or why! I don't understand why anyone would do that! There were a lot of rumors going around and I hope MIP6 was able to put some of them to rest when he made this initial topic post. We are just glad he is doing what he can to help us and I want to thank Reality for all he did to put Dave and I directly in contact with him. We need all the help we can get when it comes to finding Natalee and MIP6 is trying to help us do just that!

November 17, 2006


Robin Holloway
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MIP6 is someone who is trying to help us find Natalee! And we are grateful to him for all that he has done for us! I am sorry for all the bashing he and his farmily have had to endure and I am so glad he is still helping us after all they have been through.

« Reply #17 on: Today at 01:06:00 PM »

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Topic: MIP6 and REALITY - are they part of the disinformation team?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1896.0



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« Reply #841 on: March 24, 2009, 03:01:48 PM »



Jen,  am I reading that you think that Caps is the witness? 

I just don't know for sure.

I think it's a good possibility that he is.

Either that, or he convinced this other person to go along with this cock and bull story of his.

....someone that Jossy trusts.  hum

Well here's what's weird for me.

We watched Caps log in here during one specific week - I want to say it was either August or September......

Anyway, that whole week, there was no one from Aruba registered here on the site meter.  Not at all.

Yet Caps was logged in.

I understand that the site meter shouldn't be the only thing to rely on for something like this.

But then we learned that the "witness" was in the States at that time (I think it was that time) taking the polygraph.

So that REALLY made me wonder about the "witness" being Caps himself.

Or maybe he just came to the states with the "witness" for the polygraph.

 

In looking back thru my notes, it was for 6 or 7 days prior to September 10 2008 when Caps was logged in here, but there was no one from Aruba on the meter.
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« Reply #842 on: March 24, 2009, 03:03:41 PM »

I have to go but will BBL.  Helping friends move today!

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« Reply #843 on: March 24, 2009, 03:07:03 PM »

I have to go but will BBL.  Helping friends move today!



Bye KYcat.

Janet
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« Reply #844 on: March 24, 2009, 03:09:57 PM »

Jossy said the name of the witness one night on Greta's show.

I don't remember what it was, but Lalas made a big fuss about Jossy saying the witness' name.
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« Reply #845 on: March 24, 2009, 03:12:06 PM »

Jossy said the name of the witness one night on Greta's show.

I don't remember what it was, but Lalas made a big fuss about Jossy saying the witness' name.

Yes - it was Herleman or German or something along those lines.
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« Reply #846 on: March 24, 2009, 03:13:36 PM »

Jossy said the name of the witness one night on Greta's show.

I don't remember what it was, but Lalas made a big fuss about Jossy saying the witness' name.

Yes - it was Herleman or German or something along those lines.

I thought it was Werleman.  I remember thinking it sounded Jewish.
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« Reply #847 on: March 24, 2009, 03:14:03 PM »

Jossy said the name of the witness one night on Greta's show.

I don't remember what it was, but Lalas made a big fuss about Jossy saying the witness' name.

So it wasn't a name your recognized?  Wonder if it was posted in her show logs? 
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« Reply #848 on: March 24, 2009, 03:15:22 PM »

Jossy said the name of the witness one night on Greta's show.

I don't remember what it was, but Lalas made a big fuss about Jossy saying the witness' name.

Yes - it was Herleman or German or something along those lines.

I thought it was Werleman.  I remember thinking it sounded Jewish.

So have we searched for this guy? 
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« Reply #849 on: March 24, 2009, 03:15:45 PM »

Jossy said the name of the witness one night on Greta's show.

I don't remember what it was, but Lalas made a big fuss about Jossy saying the witness' name.

Yes - it was Herleman or German or something along those lines.

I thought it was Werleman.  I remember thinking it sounded Jewish.

Yes - phoenetically it sounded like either Herleman, Jerman, or Werleman.

It was really hard to understand him!!! 

Sunny - I remember reading the Greta transcript - I think they had the same problem most of us did in trying to understand what Jossy said.
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« Reply #850 on: March 24, 2009, 03:16:09 PM »

In the Aruban phone book there is one person who is Werleman Vrolijk.
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« Reply #851 on: March 24, 2009, 03:17:25 PM »

Jossy said the name of the witness one night on Greta's show.

I don't remember what it was, but Lalas made a big fuss about Jossy saying the witness' name.

Yes - it was Herleman or German or something along those lines.

I thought it was Werleman.  I remember thinking it sounded Jewish.

So have we searched for this guy? 

I started to, but didn't get very far.

That was back when folks were helping me with maps and the street name for the house in question (belonging to the witness).

Some wonderful Monkeys found a street name - but I couldn't tell if it was that same name after a jog or a turn in the road or something.

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« Reply #852 on: March 24, 2009, 03:17:58 PM »

In the Aruban phone book there is one person who is Werleman Vrolijk.

Not really?!?! 

What's the name of the street he's on? 
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« Reply #853 on: March 24, 2009, 03:22:55 PM »

In the Aruban phone book there is one person who is Werleman Vrolijk.

Are you joking?   too funny.... gosh,  I wonder where that name popped up from?? 
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« Reply #854 on: March 24, 2009, 03:23:15 PM »

In the Aruban phone book there is one person who is Werleman Vrolijk.

Not really?!?! 

What's the name of the street he's on? 

Nevermind.  I found it too

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« Reply #855 on: March 24, 2009, 03:24:56 PM »

In the Aruban phone book there is one person who is Werleman Vrolijk.

Not really?!?! 

What's the name of the street he's on? 

Nevermind.  I found it too

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Umm

Not the person living in the house purported to be that of the witness.

Klaas - you may wish to delete this one?

I promise, promise, PROMISE this was NOT intentional!! Embarassed
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« Reply #856 on: March 24, 2009, 03:30:12 PM »

Thanks klaas!!!!  Embarassed
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« Reply #857 on: March 24, 2009, 03:32:23 PM »

In the Aruban phone book there is one person who is Werleman Vrolijk.

Are you joking?   too funny.... gosh,  I wonder where that name popped up from?? 

This is from the Aruba.com forum, 2005   


 

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Must have been quite a few settlers with the Werleman and Croes names. I noticed quite a few grave sites with these names in the cemetary next to the Santa Anna church. It's interesting that the family paints the graves the color of the family home. 
   


And I think the 2006 carnival queen was named Werleman...so,  you are probably right about that name.  Now to find her father!
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« Reply #858 on: March 24, 2009, 03:34:33 PM »

In the Aruban phone book there is one person who is Werleman Vrolijk.

Not really?!?! 

What's the name of the street he's on? 

Nevermind.  I found it too

((edit))

Umm

Not the person living in the house purported to be that of the witness.

Klaas - you may wish to delete this one?

I promise, promise, PROMISE this was NOT intentional!! Embarassed

Hey,  what did I miss while searching!  LOL
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« Reply #859 on: March 24, 2009, 03:35:12 PM »

Well shoot!  I went to remove the rubbish and missed it.

Klaas is too quick.
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