Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09

[Tamikosmom]

As sad as it is to read this has kept Dave up nights, part of me is relieved to see Dave use the correct word for what some have done consistently in this case, which is to bug the you-know out of this family. I am also guessing that some still quest for the reward funds.....I won't speculate further.

KTF, Sunfreak posts at GM predominately.

 

[Tamikosmom]

I need an edit button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It is not going to happen KYcat.

 

I have 11,737 posts and ... still the Klaas will not bow.  I bother her and the mods every day in regards to editing and deleting my posts but ... still no edit option.

 

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Hi all, I just want to clarify something.  When Dave made the comments below:

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"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

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Does he mean that the fact that a witness saw something that could lead to Natalee is what is bugging him OR that the witness has been bugging him for some time?????

I took it to mean to mean the fist circumstance not that the witness was actually bugging him?

Any thoughts? 

 

You could be right KYcat.

Thanks

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Published: March 24, 2009 10:44 am             

(10:50 a.m.) Natalee Holloway update
Holloway trying to cover all the possibilities

By Brian Livingston

blivingston@themeridianstar.com

Dave Holloway, the father of missing teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared four years ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, said this morning he really doesn't think his daughter's body will be found during this latest search.

But he didn't want to spend the rest of his life wondering, "What if", either.

"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

The latest search is centered around a water run-off retaining pond on the island. Aruban police say previous searches of the marshy area have turned up nothing. Holloway admitted all indications have pointed to the ocean as to where his daughter's body is likely located. But the little bit of doubt placed in his head by this "witness" gave Holloway pause.

Holloway contracted a tracker dog specialist to begin his latest search for evidence into Natalee Holloway's May 2005 disappearance early Monday. Nothing was found during Monday's search.

Natalee Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she was last seen in May 2005 in the Aruban capital Oranjestad on the final night of a high school graduation trip. She reportedly left a bar with Dutch man Joran van der Sloot. No trace of her has been found despite extensive searches involving hundreds of volunteers, Aruban soldiers, FBI agents and even Dutch F-16 jets with special equipment.

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_083114849.html



Also - posted by Lala's at GM.  Not sure if it's a current photo or not:

BUMPED

[KYcat]

I need an edit button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It is not going to happen KYcat.

 

I have 11,737 posts and ... still the Klaas will not bow.  I bother her and the mods every day in regards to editing and deleting my posts but ... still no edit option.

 

Janet

You deserve one Janet!! 

I just type faster than my brain works!

 

[KYcat]

Does anybody think 'ole Fred is going to pull a tennis shoe out of the pond?  How many tennis shoes have been found so far.......... and have any of them been a mate to Joran's muddy shoe........ and does anybody think that that is just as good as finding Natalee's remains.......... (Fred thinks that is just as good).......

       

[KYcat]

OKAY....... I SEE ALL OF YOU ALL UP THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!  I AM NOT GOING TO TALK TO MYSELF ANYMORE...........

Sorry, I am trying to quit smoking........... I'm a little edgy

 

[wreck]

Published: March 24, 2009 10:44 am             

(10:50 a.m.) Natalee Holloway update
Holloway trying to cover all the possibilities

By Brian Livingston

blivingston@themeridianstar.com

Dave Holloway, the father of missing teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared four years ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, said this morning he really doesn't think his daughter's body will be found during this latest search.

But he didn't want to spend the rest of his life wondering, "What if", either.

"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

The latest search is centered around a water run-off retaining pond on the island. Aruban police say previous searches of the marshy area have turned up nothing. Holloway admitted all indications have pointed to the ocean as to where his daughter's body is likely located. But the little bit of doubt placed in his head by this "witness" gave Holloway pause.

Holloway contracted a tracker dog specialist to begin his latest search for evidence into Natalee Holloway's May 2005 disappearance early Monday. Nothing was found during Monday's search.

Natalee Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she was last seen in May 2005 in the Aruban capital Oranjestad on the final night of a high school graduation trip. She reportedly left a bar with Dutch man Joran van der Sloot. No trace of her has been found despite extensive searches involving hundreds of volunteers, Aruban soldiers, FBI agents and even Dutch F-16 jets with special equipment.

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_083114849.html

 

The witness was the motivator of this latest search of the pond!!

 

Janet

I'm not so sure we are "reading" this right. Dave may have not meant this witness was actually "bugging" him (ie phone calls, etc.)  -- he may be meaning the "the story" of this witness has been on his mind.

[Tamikosmom]

 

The witness was the motivator of this latest search of the pond!!

 

Janet

I'm not so sure we are "reading" this right. Dave may have not meant this witness was actually "bugging" him (ie phone calls, etc.)  -- he may be meaning the "the story" of this witness has been on his mind.

Wreck ... KYcat is of the same mindset as you and ... I am inclined to agree.

Janet

[Mere]

KY cat.....Hi there....good for you on the smoking....I will be sick if Fred pulls out a Adidas tennis shoe...I believe blue stripes....size 10 - 14.  There is no parent who thinks that is a substitute for their child....and the statement is insulting.

This is the time however for aruba to do the right thing....and as usual we will sit and watch and wait to see what it is they do this time.

Is this all about money?  Is there still $250K reward money out there for some to split?

If it isn't about money, what is it?  Why would aruba try to put themselves in the spotlight again?  I hope it is because this will be the last hurrah....they will release her to her family. 

[Tamikosmom]

OKAY....... I SEE ALL OF YOU ALL UP THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!  I AM NOT GOING TO TALK TO MYSELF ANYMORE...........

Sorry, I am trying to quit smoking........... I'm a little edgy

 

Hey ... I find myself talking to myself most of the time these days.  My hinky meter has reached "high".

KYcat ... Scared Monkeys has a "quit smoking" thread.  Did not know?

Janet

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

[wreck]

 

The witness was the motivator of this latest search of the pond!!

 

Janet

I'm not so sure we are "reading" this right. Dave may have not meant this witness was actually "bugging" him (ie phone calls, etc.)  -- he may be meaning the "the story" of this witness has been on his mind.

Wreck ... KYcat is of the same mindset as you and ... I am inclined to agree.

Janet

Sorry, I was behind -- I should have read on before I posted.

[KYcat]

KY cat.....Hi there....good for you on the smoking....I will be sick if Fred pulls out a Adidas tennis shoe...I believe blue stripes....size 10 - 14.  There is no parent who thinks that is a substitute for their child....and the statement is insulting.

This is the time however for aruba to do the right thing....and as usual we will sit and watch and wait to see what it is they do this time.

Is this all about money?  Is there still $250K reward money out there for some to split?

If it isn't about money, what is it?  Why would aruba try to put themselves in the spotlight again?  I hope it is because this will be the last hurrah....they will release her to her family. 

I think it is insulting also.  I don't believe Aruba has it in them to do the right thing...... well, only if it benefits them.  Would it benefit them to return Natalee to her family?  Would they consider the case closed if they return Natalee and if the case is closed, doesn't the family get all the case documents? 

What is their agenda?  Return Natalee, no arrests, leave case open, family does not get any case documents...... Family satisfied?

Oh, thanks for the "quit smoking" support.  I am a little crazy so I hope everyone will just overlook any outbursts for a while. 

 

[KYcat]

OKAY....... I SEE ALL OF YOU ALL UP THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!  I AM NOT GOING TO TALK TO MYSELF ANYMORE...........

Sorry, I am trying to quit smoking........... I'm a little edgy

 

Hey ... I find myself talking to myself most of the time these days.  My hinky meter has reached "high".

KYcat ... Scared Monkeys has a "quit smoking" thread.  Did not know?

Janet

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

Yes, Thanks, I haved been there "quit smoking" thread many times.  Have read everyone's story.  Some excellent success stories and some that scared me (Chantix) which I am on.

Sorry Mods No more O/T

[klaasend]

http://awemainta.com/home/

Looks like PVDS in the audience:

[mytime]

Sorry for the O/T but today is Bearly's Birthday!!  Here is the link!!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4744.0

[2NJSons_Mom]

I need an edit button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It is not going to happen KYcat.

 

I have 11,737 posts and ... still the Klaas will not bow.  I bother her and the mods every day in regards to editing and deleting my posts but ... still no edit option.

 

Janet

Ah, but your post count includes the edit/delete requests, so it's not all that bad, Janet.      

[Blue Moon]

KY cat.....Hi there....good for you on the smoking....I will be sick if Fred pulls out a Adidas tennis shoe...I believe blue stripes....size 10 - 14.  There is no parent who thinks that is a substitute for their child....and the statement is insulting.

This is the time however for aruba to do the right thing....and as usual we will sit and watch and wait to see what it is they do this time.

Is this all about money?  Is there still $250K reward money out there for some to split?

If it isn't about money, what is it?  Why would aruba try to put themselves in the spotlight again?  I hope it is because this will be the last hurrah....they will release her to her family. 

Aruba is going to close this case after this one last search.  Those files WILL NEVER be released to the family.  They will never want to hear the name Hollaway ever again.

[Tamikosmom]

I need an edit button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It is not going to happen KYcat.

 

I have 11,737 posts and ... still the Klaas will not bow.  I bother her and the mods every day in regards to editing and deleting my posts but ... still no edit option.

 

Janet

Ah, but your post count includes the edit/delete requests, so it's not all that bad, Janet.      

 

[Anna]

The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."


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Well, I may be the only exception but I think Dave Holloway is talking about THE GUY HE, etc. bugging him and not the concept of what the man had to say.

And we do know he also had his phone number changed, something this whole family is likely to be wanting to do from the high number of people who have inserted or attempted to insert themselves into this tragedy.  I believe they sometimes call it "doing something" as though that automatically means something positive.  It doesn't.

To me, he means what he says.  And shame of this person if they are just another gloryhound playing games that torture this family in this never ending way.

Dave wouldn't even know to worry about the pond if not for this new found witness and Caps now would he?