Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
April 18, 2024, 08:14:24 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09 (Read 182720 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Nut44x4
Maine - USA
Global Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18800
RIP Grumpy Cat :( I will miss you.
Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09
«
on:
March 20, 2009, 06:20:42 PM »
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub3/Natalee2.swf
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
«
Last Edit: March 24, 2009, 10:13:16 PM by klaasend
»
Logged
Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware/Of giving your heart to a dog to tear -- Rudyard Kipling
One who doesn't trust is never deceived...
'I remained too much inside my head and ended up losing my mind' -Edgar Allen Poe
Blue Moon
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3912
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #1 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:53:31 PM »
Present.
Logged
If you ask the wrong question, of course, you get the wrong answer. We find in design it’s much more important and difficult to ask the right question. Once you do that, the right answer becomes obvious.<br />Quote: Amory Lovins
Magnolia
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 6714
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #2 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:54:00 PM »
Here!
Logged
The will of heaven be done in this and all things.
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32407
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #3 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:55:16 PM »
Magnolia!
That was a good one!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Frijole
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 4263
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #4 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:55:27 PM »
Here and still laughing at the snorkelling water dog.
Logged
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #5 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:57:12 PM »
I wonder if Dave Holloway has heard the tapes that TJ Ward gave to Greta about the Colombians.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Blue Moon
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3912
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #6 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:57:25 PM »
Is this the same pond that Kyle said they scanned and found tires, garbage etc but nothing of any interest? And from looking at the pictures I cannot imagine it being 15 feet in any place as the pictures show it dried up and it looks no more than 2-3 feet at the most.
Logged
If you ask the wrong question, of course, you get the wrong answer. We find in design it’s much more important and difficult to ask the right question. Once you do that, the right answer becomes obvious.<br />Quote: Amory Lovins
Magnolia
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 6714
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #7 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:57:34 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on March 21, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Magnolia!
That was a good one!
He is actually a Snorkel Spaniel.
Logged
The will of heaven be done in this and all things.
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32407
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #8 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:57:51 PM »
Quote from: Frijole on March 21, 2009, 10:55:27 PM
Here and still laughing at the snorkelling water dog.
That was a good one!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #9 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:59:02 PM »
Quote from: Frijole on March 21, 2009, 10:55:27 PM
Here and still laughing at the snorkelling water dog.
At least this one can't give a thumb's down sign. He has no thumbs.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32407
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #10 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:59:23 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on March 21, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
Quote from: texasmom on March 21, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Magnolia!
That was a good one!
He is actually a Snorkel Spaniel.
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #11 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:00:04 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on March 21, 2009, 10:57:25 PM
Is this the same pond that Kyle said they scanned and found tires, garbage etc but nothing of any interest? And from looking at the pictures I cannot imagine it being 15 feet in any place as the pictures show it dried up and it looks no more than 2-3 feet at the most.
Exactly!
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Blue Moon
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3912
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #12 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:00:47 PM »
Ya know maybe Mos has made it clear this is the last chance for searching before he closes this case and If I was Dave I would want to give it another try even if the chances were remote of finding anything. Mos will close this case and move on back to the NL and Aruba sure doesn't want to have this case unloaded on them when he leaves. So I hope something is found to find closure but I am not holding my breath on this.
Logged
If you ask the wrong question, of course, you get the wrong answer. We find in design it’s much more important and difficult to ask the right question. Once you do that, the right answer becomes obvious.<br />Quote: Amory Lovins
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #13 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:01:01 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on March 21, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
Quote from: texasmom on March 21, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Magnolia!
That was a good one!
He is actually a Snorkel Spaniel.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #14 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:01:34 PM »
You are left me again.
Janet
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #15 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:02:16 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on March 21, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2009, 10:45:19 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on March 21, 2009, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: Frijole on March 21, 2009, 10:39:55 PM
Maybe it's one of those Portuguese Water dogs?!!
I'm tracking with you Janet on the "maybe Aruba decided it's time to plant the body somewhere for easy transfer back to the US". So the pond is full. Are they going to put the bones in something that floats to make it easier for them to locate? LOL Or maybe they'll conveniently be placed at the waters edge? This is insane.
They will be in those zip lok bags we saw from the Rov pictures.
I so hope that Aruba is about to give Natalee back. Unfortunately, I don't think they are smart enough to do it.
They need to give her back, and then Close the Case.
Then the family/JQK can get the case file... and we'll get Joran brought to Justice without ALE...there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Give her back and Close the Case, Aruba...before Mos leaves. Hmmm...maybe.
I suspect that Aruba will never close the Natalee Holloway case. Those case file that Dutch Law states can be turned over to the FBI upon request would expose this investigation for what it was ... corrupt ... a coverup.
Once Natalee Holloway's remains are returned to her family ... the case will remain open but allowed to go cold.
IMO
Janet
++++++
Growing Frustration in Aruba
Wednesday, July 06, 2005
GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY:
Well, the way the system works down here, when the case is closed, we will have all that information, and we can release it to the world.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161705,00.html
Art Wood
DANA PRETZER
July 2, 2006 - Part 1
July 8, 2006 - Part 2
The family of Natalee needs to put pressure on the US attorney in Birmingham to push the FBI to conduct an investigation after ALE close the case. We have a treaty that allows the FBI to pursue a violation of civil rights of an American citizen there.
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005
ART WOOD, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT:
Absolutely. Absolutely. There's a lot that Americans can do through the State Department. I want to remind everybody that Natalee Holloway was a U.S. citizen. Once the Aruban authorities are done investigating this case, the FBI can still conduct an investigation, and they could extradite these suspects to the United States. Let me point out that there's a ton of circumstantial evidence in this case to convict these kids.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
hotping
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3747
All Prayers Will Be Answered in Time!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #16 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:03:09 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on March 21, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
Quote from: texasmom on March 21, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Magnolia!
That was a good one!
He is actually a Snorkel Spaniel.
Logged
In God We Trust!
Prayers Will Bring Natalee Home!
May 2010 Bring Natalee Home to Rest In Peace!
Blue Moon
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3912
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #17 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:03:12 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2009, 11:01:34 PM
You are left me again.
Janet
Did you see I made it here first. First time on SM's that I have ever done that.
Logged
If you ask the wrong question, of course, you get the wrong answer. We find in design it’s much more important and difficult to ask the right question. Once you do that, the right answer becomes obvious.<br />Quote: Amory Lovins
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #18 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:04:15 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on March 21, 2009, 11:00:47 PM
Ya know maybe Mos has made it clear this is the last chance for searching before he closes this case and If I was Dave I would want to give it another try even if the chances were remote of finding anything. Mos will close this case and move on back to the NL and Aruba sure doesn't want to have this case unloaded on them when he leaves. So I hope something is found to find closure but I am not holding my breath on this.
I hope that is the reason, BlueMoon. I hope Dave is not doing this just because of the harassment of gloryhounds and attention seekers just insisting they have some sort of inside information that they don't.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Lifesong
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2223
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #810
«
Reply #19 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:04:56 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on March 21, 2009, 10:57:25 PM
Is this the same pond that Kyle said they scanned and found tires, garbage etc but nothing of any interest? And from looking at the pictures I cannot imagine it being 15 feet in any place as the pictures show it dried up and it looks no more than 2-3 feet at the most.
Kyle on the side sonar results of the pond:
Kyle wrote April 7 2008
:
There are 18 targets. Two are definitely tires. The rest, who knows. It's likely tin cans, mud clumps, and debris.
There is one small box-like target but it's only 2ft across and doesn't have much relief, unless it's completely sunk into the mud (likely). I can find something about the size of a hockey puck with that system in good conditions. The water was very shallow when this survey was done. Remember, in February 2006 the pond was almost dry.
In the meantime, the Americans, with police permission, made a sonar
test of the Dam of Monserat in the beginning of this year, when the
level of the water was low.
DIARIO has found out that this test
discovered 15 objects of interest and that they could define only 3 of
them
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/12/search-for-natalee-hollowaytim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-new-witness-in-aruba-discusions-with-proecutor-hans-mos-polygraph-exams/
Logged
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...