Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09

[Tamikosmom]

Wreck,

Maybe instead of the twins, Nancy will show Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba!  That might make it all worth your while and you could tolerate it. 

After the reports of his destruction of entire hotel rooms, however, it might not be safe.

One would think that Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba would be trained to be kenneled in a hotel room.
He has to travel all over.

Rhino goes nuts in these Aruban Hotel rooms because most likely they have all had dead bodies in them at one time! 

Rhino probably went nuts at Julie's House Too...She probably fed Him drugs are something!  Truly I don't believe the dog tore up a hotel room or stayed at Julia's House and played with Her kids.....She is FOS! JMO

I agree Magnolia....I doubt He is allowed to just run the room and I doubt that He is allowed to play with kids.......I might be wrong but I don't think so.... 

I noticed that Renfro said the other day that she walked throught the pond last May with her children.
Last May she said that she walked through it with Mark Purcell.
You can't believe a word she says.

Maybe Fred Golba and his sniffer dog should also have done a little look-see in May, 2008 rather than waiting until the pond is filled with water.

 

Janet

[Magnolia]

When Caps switched to the Monserat Pond,  he said that Natalee was only put in that pond as a holding
place......like Hiram, the original Mason.
Then she was moved to Jalitza Wever's crypt at the Masonic Cemetery on June 6th and Jalitza Wever
was put into the ocean.
He wasn't sure which crypt that was but it had a lamb on it per Shango. 

Many of Caps supporters still believe that theory

Magnolia ... Caps does not appear to be upholding his theory that Natalee Holloway was moved from the pond in two of his neverending flip flops revealed in the following quotes.

Janet

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At the end of February, 2008 ... Caps was upholding the sonar scan search of the Persistence in regards to locating Joran's sneaker and Natalee Holloway's remains and ... then in May, 2008 (above) ... he implies that Joran's sneaker can be found under the mud.

When Kyle Kingman's own words are considered ... the sonar scan does not reveal what is under the mud.

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texasmom
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #2828 on: February 28, 2008, 04:20:17 AM »

Caps,
Are you pleased with the areas that are now being searched?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg356668#msg356668


CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #2830 on: February 28, 2008, 04:33:01 AM »

Yes.

At 9:00 will go over there to amke sure they do not mis a spot....The sneaker is there....where is the sneaker is the remains.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg356675;topicseen#msg356675


CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1486 on: May 08, 2008, 05:34:17 AM »

back to the sneaker, you can not never find it since it will sink, and with time the mud will coverit up.

in day time you can not see it becuase the water is murky and dark. (It is gone for ever till the pond dried up and then you have to go and search for it under the mud.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379904;topicseen#msg379904


KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman - 04/07/08: There are 18 targets. Two are definitely tires. The rest, who knows. It's likely tin cans, mud clumps, and debris. There is one small box-like target but it's only 2ft across and doesn't have much relief, unless it's completely sunk into the mud (likely). I can find something about the size of a hockey puck with that system in good conditions. The water was very shallow when this survey was done. Remember, in February 2006 the pond was almost dry.

Then after that he said that she was chopped up and put in different places all over the island.
I don't believe any of Caps theories.

[hotping]

Wreck,

Maybe instead of the twins, Nancy will show Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba!  That might make it all worth your while and you could tolerate it. 

After the reports of his destruction of entire hotel rooms, however, it might not be safe.

One would think that Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba would be trained to be kenneled in a hotel room.
He has to travel all over.

Rhino goes nuts in these Aruban Hotel rooms because most likely they have all had dead bodies in them at one time! 

Rhino probably went nuts at Julie's House Too...She probably fed Him drugs are something!  Truly I don't believe the dog tore up a hotel room or stayed at Julia's House and played with Her kids.....She is FOS! JMO

I agree Magnolia....I doubt He is allowed to just run the room and I doubt that He is allowed to play with kids.......I might be wrong but I don't think so.... 

I noticed that Renfro said the other day that she walked throught the pond last May with her children.
Last May she said that she walked through it with Mark Purcell.
You can't believe a word she says.

That's because She is FOS....People like Her lie so much they can't remember what they lied about........She really pisses Me off.... 

[Anna]

Julia said the pond is currently about three feet deep but the bald guy who is a regular on CNN Prime News said it was fifteen feet in some places.

What places?  Can someone point them out to me on the map because it looks pretty much level to me. 

[Magnolia]

Wreck,

Maybe instead of the twins, Nancy will show Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba!  That might make it all worth your while and you could tolerate it. 

After the reports of his destruction of entire hotel rooms, however, it might not be safe.

One would think that Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba would be trained to be kenneled in a hotel room.
He has to travel all over.

Rhino goes nuts in these Aruban Hotel rooms because most likely they have all had dead bodies in them at one time! 

Rhino probably went nuts at Julie's House Too...She probably fed Him drugs are something!  Truly I don't believe the dog tore up a hotel room or stayed at Julia's House and played with Her kids.....She is FOS! JMO

I agree Magnolia....I doubt He is allowed to just run the room and I doubt that He is allowed to play with kids.......I might be wrong but I don't think so.... 

I noticed that Renfro said the other day that she walked throught the pond last May with her children.
Last May she said that she walked through it with Mark Purcell.
You can't believe a word she says.

That's because She is FOS....People like Her lie so much they can't remember what they lied about........She really pisses Me off.... 

I am not fond of her mother either.

[Keepthefaith]

It reminds me of the time Albert Vrolijk found panties and a condom.

Albert Vrolijk(Dj)-Friend of Satish & Deepak Kalpoe
Vernon Vrolijk-ATA/Regional sales representative,Marietta,GA
Humphrey Vrolijk-ATA/Europe area director
Hiram Vrolijk-Friend of Joran Van Der Sloot
Augustine Vrolijk-Director of Aruba's Foreign Affairs
Marysol Vrolijk-Secretary at Notary Office Aruba
Zernon Vrolijk-ATA
Alicia Vrolijk-Jr Account Manager/Aruba Bank NV


Will continue to ADD to the list...

AP Photo/Leo Vrolijk, Awe Mointa

alberto vrolijk/GOVT INSPECTOR
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=E7CD2EED-30F2-44E2-A45D-3529CF41A297

Alberto Vrolijk...Male, 51
san nicolaas
Aruba

Jose Vrolijk-Bus driver ISA
http://www.isaruba.com/Quick%20links/faculty_and_staff/Index.html


BRC MEMBERS RELATIONS DEPARTMENT
Direct number Ena Vrolijk

BRC GENERAL MANAGEMENT
Adm.Assistant/Executive Secretary Helen Werleman

http://www.lacabanabrc.com/members/directory.shtml

Willem Vrolijk/Politicians and air traffic controller
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67682

Orlando Vrolijk/Aruba Surf Club Guest Relations
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147247-i144-k1352085-Safes_at_Marriott_Surf_Club-Aruba.html

Mr. Ival VrolijkSETAR N.V. - Aruba
http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/finance/work-cost-tariffs/events/tariff-seminars/trinidad-tobago-03/listofparticipants.pdf

Danilo Vrolijk /PEL Officer
http://www.airsafetyfirst.com/chart.php

Ricardo Vrolijk /Assistant Controller.Marriott’s Aruba Ocean Club
http://www.arubaoceanclub.com/pdfs/OceanFallCOA.doc


VERY INTERESTING EHHHH......

Sjona Vrolijk/Interviewed for a People article in 2005
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20148066,00.html


Dianne Vrolijk/Oviedo, FL, U.S.A Student  (ORLANDO)

[Anna]

Magnolia,
The chopped up theory allows them to claim to find her just anywhere which is VERY convenient.

That was the most disgusting of all his theories to me.  I don't believe for one minute Joran would have the stomach to do that and why should he since Natalee died at the sex party with Jossy and Julia.

I wish somebody would call in on one of the programs and ASK JULIA about that party.  Would be something to hear what she had to say.

[Anna]

Going to feed everybody so can watch Nancy then Greta.  We so seldom have news coverage these days, I will watch anybody who is covering the story.

[hotping]

Wreck,

Maybe instead of the twins, Nancy will show Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba!  That might make it all worth your while and you could tolerate it. 

After the reports of his destruction of entire hotel rooms, however, it might not be safe.

One would think that Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba would be trained to be kenneled in a hotel room.
He has to travel all over.

Rhino goes nuts in these Aruban Hotel rooms because most likely they have all had dead bodies in them at one time! 

Rhino probably went nuts at Julie's House Too...She probably fed Him drugs are something!  Truly I don't believe the dog tore up a hotel room or stayed at Julia's House and played with Her kids.....She is FOS! JMO

I agree Magnolia....I doubt He is allowed to just run the room and I doubt that He is allowed to play with kids.......I might be wrong but I don't think so.... 

I noticed that Renfro said the other day that she walked throught the pond last May with her children.
Last May she said that she walked through it with Mark Purcell.
You can't believe a word she says.

That's because She is FOS....People like Her lie so much they can't remember what they lied about........She really pisses Me off.... 

I am not fond of her mother either.

 

[Magnolia]

I still say that this is Aruba's chance to return Natalee to her family.
It is against International Law to withhold human remains from a bereaved family.
We have seen the pictures.
We know they have her.
They could reinstate a tiny bit of their tourism trade if they would give her back.

[texasmom]

It reminds me of the time Albert Vrolijk found panties and a condom.

Albert Vrolijk(Dj)-Friend of Satish & Deepak Kalpoe
Vernon Vrolijk-ATA/Regional sales representative,Marietta,GA
Humphrey Vrolijk-ATA/Europe area director
Hiram Vrolijk-Friend of Joran Van Der Sloot
Augustine Vrolijk-Director of Aruba's Foreign Affairs
Marysol Vrolijk-Secretary at Notary Office Aruba
Zernon Vrolijk-ATA
Alicia Vrolijk-Jr Account Manager/Aruba Bank NV


Will continue to ADD to the list...

AP Photo/Leo Vrolijk, Awe Mointa

alberto vrolijk/GOVT INSPECTOR
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=E7CD2EED-30F2-44E2-A45D-3529CF41A297

Alberto Vrolijk...Male, 51
san nicolaas
Aruba

Jose Vrolijk-Bus driver ISA
http://www.isaruba.com/Quick%20links/faculty_and_staff/Index.html


BRC MEMBERS RELATIONS DEPARTMENT
Direct number Ena Vrolijk

BRC GENERAL MANAGEMENT
Adm.Assistant/Executive Secretary Helen Werleman

http://www.lacabanabrc.com/members/directory.shtml

Willem Vrolijk/Politicians and air traffic controller
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67682

Orlando Vrolijk/Aruba Surf Club Guest Relations
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147247-i144-k1352085-Safes_at_Marriott_Surf_Club-Aruba.html

Mr. Ival VrolijkSETAR N.V. - Aruba
http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/finance/work-cost-tariffs/events/tariff-seminars/trinidad-tobago-03/listofparticipants.pdf

Danilo Vrolijk /PEL Officer
http://www.airsafetyfirst.com/chart.php

Ricardo Vrolijk /Assistant Controller.Marriott’s Aruba Ocean Club
http://www.arubaoceanclub.com/pdfs/OceanFallCOA.doc


VERY INTERESTING EHHHH......

Sjona Vrolijk/Interviewed for a People article in 2005
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20148066,00.html


Dianne Vrolijk/Oviedo, FL, U.S.A Student  (ORLANDO)

KTF....I don't want to discourage you but there are over 150 listings in the Aruba White Pages for Vrolijk.  I think it is a very common name in Aruba.

[Tamikosmom]

It reminds me of the time Albert Vrolijk found panties and a condom.

Albert Vrolijk(Dj)-Friend of Satish & Deepak Kalpoe
Vernon Vrolijk-ATA/Regional sales representative,Marietta,GA
Humphrey Vrolijk-ATA/Europe area director
Hiram Vrolijk-Friend of Joran Van Der Sloot
Augustine Vrolijk-Director of Aruba's Foreign Affairs
Marysol Vrolijk-Secretary at Notary Office Aruba
Zernon Vrolijk-ATA
Alicia Vrolijk-Jr Account Manager/Aruba Bank NV


Will continue to ADD to the list...

Keepthefaith ... I still contend that Gerold Dompig should be included in the mix when the identity of CapsLockWizard is being considered.

Janet

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A COMPARISON


1.  THE INSURANCE SCAM


ANOMINO

Now Aruban Prosecutor Says “Holloway case in ‘new phase” … New Phase of not Investigating

#22 Anonimo on December 22nd, 2007 11:17 pm

Nathalie Price $1000.000.00 and second price 250.000.00 to tell something

A Long time has past and the poor people in Aruba never came to claim the price… Aruban, Dutch, American, Surinam living in an expensive island where 50.000 are over 50 yr old and where 25000 are of school age and 50000 65yr and up on pension and none of them will like to win the lottery. Ask yourself why?

Is it that because they have to much casino and 1,000.000.00 will not make a difference or is it that they have done so much money laundry that they do not need a million or so to boost up their portfolio or is it that they are so corrupt that they do not see a Million Dollar…???????

The reason they are not coming forward is that no-one has seen or hear anything or is it that they are afraid of the 3 alleged perps that have hurts their island so much that they are afraid of them?,

or is it this question

IS IT THAT THIS IS ALL A FABRICATION FOR AN INSURANCE CLAIM AFTER 5 OR 10 YEARS?

Where the players are all connected and waiting for time to tick away to 2010

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/


GEROLD DOMPIG

DIARIO Aruba
10/26/2005

This because a case such as Natalee’s has different scenarios. One scenario is that a person killed Natalee, or for whatever reason she is no longer living.

Another scenario is that she is alive, but everything in the case is a ‘set up’, to profit in one way or another.

One possibility for example is that they said she is deceased, and they can collect the life insurance money, while in reality she is not deceased, but another way is that with collecting funds from people with good intentions that send money for the fund and the family enriches themselves.

If the mother gives information about how much money there is and how much money she is spending, he has no problem with this. However, if the mother has everything secret, this becomes part of the investigation because it puts the case in a different light.

[translated by Getagrip]
Posted by Getagrip at 10/27/2005 10:52:00 AM

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_10_23_archive.html


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2.  THE COIN


ANOMIMO

Now Aruban Prosecutor Says “Holloway case in ‘new phase” … New Phase of not Investigating

#27  Anonimo on December 22nd, 2007 11:45 pm
We all know what the alleged perps did and now let see the other side of the million…a coin has two side

#41.  Anonimo on December 23rd, 2007 1:48 am
I am a Logic Professor and I am telling you all that from both side of the coin there is events that do not compute and follows normal nature course.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/


GEROLD DOMPIG

DIARIO Aruba
10/26/2005

ORANJESTAD(AAN): ... Dompig explains that the Task Force of Aruba, along with the government gave him the OK for him to go on the American live programs, but via telephone, for him to give the other side of the coin to what has happened and is happening with this case.

[translated by Getagrip]
Posted by Getagrip at 10/27/2005 10:52:00 AM

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_10_23_archive.html

[Keepthefaith]

OK..I'm Done..

[Tamikosmom]

It reminds me of the time Albert Vrolijk found panties and a condom.

Albert Vrolijk(Dj)-Friend of Satish & Deepak Kalpoe
Vernon Vrolijk-ATA/Regional sales representative,Marietta,GA
Humphrey Vrolijk-ATA/Europe area director
Hiram Vrolijk-Friend of Joran Van Der Sloot
Augustine Vrolijk-Director of Aruba's Foreign Affairs
Marysol Vrolijk-Secretary at Notary Office Aruba
Zernon Vrolijk-ATA
Alicia Vrolijk-Jr Account Manager/Aruba Bank NV


Will continue to ADD to the list...

AP Photo/Leo Vrolijk, Awe Mointa

alberto vrolijk/GOVT INSPECTOR
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=E7CD2EED-30F2-44E2-A45D-3529CF41A297

Alberto Vrolijk...Male, 51
san nicolaas
Aruba

Jose Vrolijk-Bus driver ISA
http://www.isaruba.com/Quick%20links/faculty_and_staff/Index.html


BRC MEMBERS RELATIONS DEPARTMENT
Direct number Ena Vrolijk

BRC GENERAL MANAGEMENT
Adm.Assistant/Executive Secretary Helen Werleman

http://www.lacabanabrc.com/members/directory.shtml

Willem Vrolijk/Politicians and air traffic controller
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67682

Orlando Vrolijk/Aruba Surf Club Guest Relations
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147247-i144-k1352085-Safes_at_Marriott_Surf_Club-Aruba.html

Mr. Ival VrolijkSETAR N.V. - Aruba
http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/finance/work-cost-tariffs/events/tariff-seminars/trinidad-tobago-03/listofparticipants.pdf

Danilo Vrolijk /PEL Officer
http://www.airsafetyfirst.com/chart.php

Ricardo Vrolijk /Assistant Controller.Marriott’s Aruba Ocean Club
http://www.arubaoceanclub.com/pdfs/OceanFallCOA.doc


VERY INTERESTING EHHHH......

Sjona Vrolijk/Interviewed for a People article in 2005
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20148066,00.html


Dianne Vrolijk/Oviedo, FL, U.S.A Student  (ORLANDO)

 

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for April 6
updated 9:15 a.m. PT, Fri., April. 7, 2006

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE‘S MOTHER: ... So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/

[Tamikosmom]

Jane V. Mitchell is on now.  Maybe there is something on the Fred Golba search.

Janet

[hotping]

I still say that this is Aruba's chance to return Natalee to her family.
It is against International Law to withhold human remains from a bereaved family.
We have seen the pictures.
We know they have her.
They could reinstate a tiny bit of their tourism trade if they would give her back.

I Agree Magnolia....But will They do the right thing or will they do what They always do and keep the coverup going.....

[Patriot]

Just a little recap, courtesy of my Searching escapades: 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4173.msg556221#msg556221
Quote from: ala_gunslinger on November 24, 2008, 06:22:56 PM
I also stand with the Frog!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4159.msg554588;topicseen#msg554588
Quote from: bleachedblack  on: November 23, 2008, 03:27:08 PM 
I stand by the frog.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4159.msg554570#msg554570
Quote from: always 1 on November 23, 2008, 03:16:25 PM
I believe Rob and Carpe stood by the frog.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4328.msg607473#msg607473
Quote from: Patriot on January 01, 2009, 02:14:05 PM
I stand with the Frog...


I know there's many, many more....Klaas - the search feature here has never truly been my friend!   

        

I still stand with the frog and have never waffled on this opinion...

[hotping]

Jane V. Mitchell is on now.  Maybe there is something on the Fred Golba search.

Janet

Janet Was there anything on the search? TIA

[Blue Moon]

If the Kalpoes are no longer suspects why haven't they turned over all records to Dr. Phil in their case.  It is ridiculous for a U.S. court to give those two scumbags so much lead way in this case.

[Tamikosmom]

Jane V. Mitchell is on now.  Maybe there is something on the Fred Golba search.

Janet

Janet Was there anything on the search? TIA

Hotping

Julia Renfro was on ... only what we have already ready in the the media articles that have been posted on the forum.

Nancy Grace coming up.

Janet