Natalee Case Discussion #811 3/24/09 - 3/27/09

[klaasend]

There is a group of people that would like nothing better than to try and shut SM down.  I'm trying not to give them any fuel.  

How could they do that?      It is a sincere question.

By attempting to claim we are violating the TOS.

Is this because of Natalee's thread in particular or is it a combination of Natalee, Haleigh and Caylee?

In this particular case NH but can happen in any of the forums. 

[klaasend]

Klaas...real question so I can understand....could we publish a page of the Manhattan telephone book....?

ha ha let me think on that 

[jen3560]

There is a group of people that would like nothing better than to try and shut SM down.  I'm trying not to give them any fuel.  

How could they do that?      It is a sincere question.

By attempting to claim we are violating the TOS.

    Oh that's rich!!

So let me see if I can understand their thinking here.............

At their little hidey holes - they think just because they believe no one outside their little circle can see it - that when THEY DO violate the TOS of their board (host), that's ok.

But when someone TELLS PEOPLE WHO HE IS (that's important to remember here, IMO), and then inserts himself right smack into the middle of a case with bullshit information and a bogus witness.................when someone posts about his real life in an effort to see if he was placed here to do those things by a specific governmental group, that's a no-no.

 

Okie doke.  I think I got it.

 

[Lifesong]

There is a group of people that would like nothing better than to try and shut SM down.  I'm trying not to give them any fuel.  

How could they do that?      It is a sincere question.

By attempting to claim we are violating the TOS.

I'll abide by whatever Klaas wants done, gratefully, no question about that.

In my opinion only, I think these bullies are getting carried away with their own self-importance.  They don't actually have any power, let alone anyone that would give a sh*t about their petty little complaints.  They have/had/will have no actual damages on which to base any suit. 

That said, I humbly and guilty have to admit I've never read the TOS and am only guessing at what it stands for.   

Maybe we could post it?  Or a link?

[Tamikosmom]

Because Croes and Vrolijk are such common names in Aruba I am not going to go back and remove all posts only certain ones.

Might I make a case that the witness is fair game?

    

I would second that - considering many of the other witnesses names have been posted publicly in the past.

The name of the Gardener was no secret.

Janet

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[jen3560]

Well, they can DELAY the inevitable -- but their names are going to be coming out sooner or later. Freedom of the Press.

 

[2NJSons_Mom]

    

Jen just posted something similar to what I was thinking. 

[jen3560]

Klaas...real question so I can understand....could we publish a page of the Manhattan telephone book....?

ha ha let me think on that 

I know it would fit with privacy laws that if something is already out in the public domain - repeating of it (in writing or otherwise - linking to it, etc) is not considered an invasion of that privacy.

[Keepthefaith]

What a colossal headache for Klaas!  But then I guess that's the point because it sure doesn't change anything.  Removing information does not change it.

Nope!I think at this point we're all aware that CapsLockWizard is a direct extension of AHATA,ATA,ATIA.....[/b]

I THINK THIS MAKES SOME HIDEY-HOLES VERY UPSET....

[jen3560]

   

Jen just posted something similar to what I was thinking. 

Oh good - so I wasn't the only one for whom their circular logic was puzzling.

 

[Helen Back]

Klaas...real question so I can understand....could we publish a page of the Manhattan telephone book....?

ha ha let me think on that 

I know it would fit with privacy laws that if something is already out in the public domain - repeating of it (in writing or otherwise - linking to it, etc) is not considered an invasion of that privacy.

As in MySpace, Facebook, and all manner of personal info that people post on the Web about themselves?

You mean that kind of stuff?  No expectation of privacy in those situations.   

Just ask Casey Anthony.

[Lifesong]

Maybe Kyle would just sell us the information and that would make it ok.


 

[Tamikosmom]

I have everything save in my little hidey hole.  I hope others saved it.  I know Kermit and Jen have it all.

Hey ... The truth regarding a futile attempt by the Aruban "powers that be" to distract from the contents of the trap which was recovered on January 7, 2005 will ultimately prevail.  Kyle Kingman's own words and ... the ROV images are not going to go away.

SS ... was right on!!

Janet

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WTH!

SS
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #775 11/16/08 thru
on: November 17, 2008, 08:32:15 PM 

Monkeys - Kyle said that he discovered the trap on the screen very early Christmas morning.  That's when Tim said  "it looks like a skull".  The contents of the trap were cleaned on January 7th.  Persistence continued to use side scan sonor to map the ocean floor well into February.  Now how could they justify all of those extra weeks of searching for a missing American woman if they had already found her in the beginning of January?  They also needed to get our focus off of Persistence and the ocean search.  Viola!  Caps enters the picture to tell us about Manserat Pond.  The picture of the cage was never supposed to be released and I'm sure that caused big trouble.  All of the evidence disappeared.  The fabric sent to Quantico wasn't Natalee's blouse.  There wasn't anything else in the cage - it was just a coconut or a piece of coral.  Back to the ocean search for Peristence so that they could continue with the grids and their non profit search.

[Buckeye]

Technically, I believe Koen, Sander, Guido and Freddy and even Paulus are all witnesses. No secret there.

[jen3560]

Klaas...real question so I can understand....could we publish a page of the Manhattan telephone book....?

ha ha let me think on that 

I know it would fit with privacy laws that if something is already out in the public domain - repeating of it (in writing or otherwise - linking to it, etc) is not considered an invasion of that privacy.

As in MySpace, Facebook, and all manner of personal info that people post on the Web about themselves?

You mean that kind of stuff?  No expectation of privacy in those situations.   

Just ask Casey Anthony.

Correct.

Or phone books, or voter registry's, or property tax information, or marriage licenses, birth and death records, etc.

[jen3560]

Technically, I believe Koen, Sander, Guido and Freddy and even Paulus are all witnesses. No secret there.

Mmmhmmm.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Technically, I believe Koen, Sander, Guido and Freddy and even Paulus are all witnesses. No secret there.

Wonder if they ever posted here.... I think that's the catch.

[Buckeye]

When Briesen and AHATA donate Renfro's services....how much do you think they write off....or...do they bill the Prosecutor??

[Buckeye]

Technically, I believe Koen, Sander, Guido and Freddy and even Paulus are all witnesses. No secret there.

Wonder if they ever posted here.... I think that's the catch.

hmmmm we did figure out kbm pretty quick...even when Joran was helping him...

[Magnolia]

Technically, I believe Koen, Sander, Guido and Freddy and even Paulus are all witnesses. No secret there.

Wonder if they ever posted here.... I think that's the catch.

Do we think that the pond witness ever posted here?