Natalee Case Discussion #811 3/24/09 - 3/27/09

[Anna]

Has anyone ever heard the theory of how Joran supposedly got the remains TO the pond in the first place? 

[Anna]

Klaas..Can you delete my post #810..Thanx..

Done 

Thank You!

Aren't you supposed to promise that if she will, you will never ask a mod to edit for you ever again?

 

[antunym]

Hello everyone!! I have been one of the lurkers in the "rafters" for almost four years now.  This has been the only site I deal with because you monkeys unzip ever little thing and figure out whats beneath everything.  I sure hope I have people like you on my side if something went wrong.  Janet and KTF you all are doing a perfect job.  Keep up the good work.  For some odd reason I have been stuck on Justice for Natalee since it happened.  I do believe something went awfully wrong with the fish trap.  I mean it was said since the beginning that she was put in a fish trap and taken out to sea.  Joran even mentions this himself.  It's pretty simple and not complicated like these "code makers" want to make it out to be.  And what do you know, straight out from the beach there's a fish trap with DNA in it.  I just wish someone would leave the remains in a box next to that empty pond they are searching so that Natalee can rest in the US where she belongs and Beth and Dave can have peace in this short life. Come on Aruba now is the time to send her home, do whats right 

[Tamikosmom]

Klaas..Can you delete my post #810..Thanx..

Done 

Thank You!

Aren't you supposed to promise that if she will, you will never ask a mod to edit for you ever again?

 

 

[klaasend]

Hello everyone!! I have been one of the lurkers in the "rafters" for almost four years now.  This has been the only site I deal with because you monkeys unzip ever little thing and figure out whats beneath everything.  I sure hope I have people like you on my side if something went wrong.  Janet and KTF you all are doing a perfect job.  Keep up the good work.  For some odd reason I have been stuck on Justice for Natalee since it happened.  I do believe something went awfully wrong with the fish trap.  I mean it was said since the beginning that she was put in a fish trap and taken out to sea.  Joran even mentions this himself.  It's pretty simple and not complicated like these "code makers" want to make it out to be.  And what do you know, straight out from the beach there's a fish trap with DNA in it.  I just wish someone would leave the remains in a box next to that empty pond they are searching so that Natalee can rest in the US where she belongs and Beth and Dave can have peace in this short life. Come on Aruba now is the time to send her home, do whats right 

Welcome to SM Antunym!

[Keepthefaith]

Hello everyone!! I have been one of the lurkers in the "rafters" for almost four years now.  This has been the only site I deal with because you monkeys unzip ever little thing and figure out whats beneath everything.  I sure hope I have people like you on my side if something went wrong.  Janet and KTF you all are doing a perfect job.  Keep up the good work.  For some odd reason I have been stuck on Justice for Natalee since it happened.  I do believe something went awfully wrong with the fish trap.  I mean it was said since the beginning that she was put in a fish trap and taken out to sea.  Joran even mentions this himself.  It's pretty simple and not complicated like these "code makers" want to make it out to be.  And what do you know, straight out from the beach there's a fish trap with DNA in it.  I just wish someone would leave the remains in a box next to that empty pond they are searching so that Natalee can rest in the US where she belongs and Beth and Dave can have peace in this short life. Come on Aruba now is the time to send her home, do whats right 

Thanx Antunym..Please come and join us more often!JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY needs all the Monkey Power possible..

[Kermit]

I have no problem calling but you guys need to give me the questions!!  I am way too new to this case!!

Also - Barbie also said they never received 1.5 million in donations either!  She didn't want to speak for Tim, but said Tim was not happy with Fred going there without ALE's permission and felt the search had no real basis!!  "Natalee should always come first!!"

But I didn't know what else to ask!!  She did say - "Feel free to call me with any more questions!!"    She may regret that!!  LOL 

Thank you so much, mytime! 


How about that haters?  TE says NO PLANS to return to Aruba anytime soon.  TE says NO 1.5 million dollars raised.  TE says this search has NO real basis.

 Guess that reporter won't be using the haters for a source anymore. 

    


Not to mention that if Tim says this search has no real basis...then Tim must know Caps is FOS!!


JMO and only MO - and sorry if this is late and redundant - I'm several pages back and trying to catch up!

Yup - no real basis for a pond search.

And for this to come from Tim Miller's office, that tells me - the witness DID NOT pass the polygraph.

That was all BS from CAPS!!!

Black is Kyle
Red is Caps

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[2NJSons_Mom]

Welcome, antunym.  What took you so long?      

[Kermit]

CAPS posted re: "I live here now, After september 11, I came down to see my parents." Feb. 18, 2008    8:42 pm
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

CAPS SIGNED IN: IT IS 12:35 HIS TIME (EASTERN)
     Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #764 7/11  (Read 2298 times)
dennisintn, cajun miracle, CapsLockWizard, Helen Back, Destiny, texasmom, Rooscrew, GabbyG, crazybabyborg, Tylergal and 26 Guests are viewing this topic.
He was looking at tripod site at the videos:http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

[antunym]

I forgot to mention a thanks to kermit, jen and all else who are responsible for exposing all this. I think without what you put the light on some of us would still be wandering aroung with our heads cut off. 

[Tamikosmom]

Hello everyone!! I have been one of the lurkers in the "rafters" for almost four years now.  This has been the only site I deal with because you monkeys unzip ever little thing and figure out whats beneath everything.  I sure hope I have people like you on my side if something went wrong.  Janet and KTF you all are doing a perfect job.  Keep up the good work.  For some odd reason I have been stuck on Justice for Natalee since it happened.  I do believe something went awfully wrong with the fish trap.  I mean it was said since the beginning that she was put in a fish trap and taken out to sea.  Joran even mentions this himself.  It's pretty simple and not complicated like these "code makers" want to make it out to be.  And what do you know, straight out from the beach there's a fish trap with DNA in it.  I just wish someone would leave the remains in a box next to that empty pond they are searching so that Natalee can rest in the US where she belongs and Beth and Dave can have peace in this short life. Come on Aruba now is the time to send her home, do whats right 

I agree antunym and ... WELCOME TO THE CAGE!!

Justice for Natalee Holloway is never going to come from an Aruban court.  However ... if the family ... who as been riding a roller coaster from H--- for the past almost four years ... were afforded the opportunity to bring Natalee home ... home to rest on American soil ... I would consider it a Godsend.

Janet

++++++++

'Scarborough Country' for July 14
updated 8:45 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 15, 2005

JUG TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER: Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she's alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we'll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551824/


'The Abrams Report' for July 1
updated 7:47 a.m. PT, Wed., July. 6, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee.  Natalee deserves to return to her country.  She deserves it, and everyone knows it, Martin, every single person.  Every single person knows that.  They know it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/

[Kermit]

73.  Capslockwizard on December 24th, 2007 2:38 am

To Katablog, maybe you are so stupid that you do not se that I am trying to help. you are so absorb in your little peabean that you have no clue about the case.. First you need to be there to talk and see thing for your self… behinde that screen you can rumble and rumble and noting will get done… any Ideas overlook should be looked at… and this is what I am Doing now. I will go do someting about it…

What are you going to do someting..I flow down and I am here … researching what not even a private investigater did over looked.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/

[antunym]

Thanks 2NJ I registered a long time ago(over a year I think), but got admitted to the cage today.  Klaas does good at not letting too many in here, which is probably good because then we would really be distracted lol.

[Magnolia]

Has anyone ever heard the theory of how Joran supposedly got the remains TO the pond in the first place? 

I know how Caps said Joran got her remains to the pond.  Do you want to hear?

[Tamikosmom]

And some people whine if their name IS mentioned here and then whine if they are not given credit, etc.  making it impossible to accommodate their wishes.

Klaas brought the info and gave credit without personally mentioning.

Yep, seems like that's all some people do is whine!  Makes me want to ask them if they wouldn't like some cheese to go with it!    

 

[Anna]

Has anyone ever heard the theory of how Joran supposedly got the remains TO the pond in the first place? 

I know how Caps said Joran got her remains to the pond.  Do you want to hear?

Not if it's that dismembered story because I don't believe or want to hear about that.

But if someone took Joran to the pond, who?  And why did they drive away and leave him there on foot, etc.?  That I would like to know even according to the Myth of Caps. 

[Tamikosmom]

CAPS posted re: "I live here now, After september 11, I came down to see my parents." Feb. 18, 2008    8:42 pm
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

CAPS SIGNED IN: IT IS 12:35 HIS TIME (EASTERN)
     Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #764 7/11  (Read 2298 times)
dennisintn, cajun miracle, CapsLockWizard, Helen Back, Destiny, texasmom, Rooscrew, GabbyG, crazybabyborg, Tylergal and 26 Guests are viewing this topic.
He was looking at tripod site at the videos:http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

Hi Kermit

Does that above coincident with the research you have done pertaining to the the identification of CAPS.

Ribbits and Ribbits

Janet

[Kermit]

CAPS posted re: "I live here now, After september 11, I came down to see my parents." Feb. 18, 2008    8:42 pm
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

CAPS SIGNED IN: IT IS 12:35 HIS TIME (EASTERN)
     Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #764 7/11  (Read 2298 times)
dennisintn, cajun miracle, CapsLockWizard, Helen Back, Destiny, texasmom, Rooscrew, GabbyG, crazybabyborg, Tylergal and 26 Guests are viewing this topic.
He was looking at tripod site at the videos:http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

Hi Kermit

Does that above coincident with the research you have done pertaining to the the identification of CAPS.

Ribbits and Ribbits

Janet

Many nights he was sitting here reading, gathering information.
Seems like if a person already talked to a witness and had information they would not need to be reading in order to post the information they allegedly knew about.

[Magnolia]

Has anyone ever heard the theory of how Joran supposedly got the remains TO the pond in the first place? 

I know how Caps said Joran got her remains to the pond.  Do you want to hear?

Not if it's that dismembered story because I don't believe or want to hear about that.

But if someone took Joran to the pond, who?  And why did they drive away and leave him there on foot, etc.?  That I would like to know even according to the Myth of Caps. 

That was one of the most bizarro parts of Caps whole Myth.

Caps said that she was taken to the pond by Frans Deutekom and Ben Voking in Detekon's black
SUV and they left Joran at the pond to put the body in the pond for safe keeping.  That was when
he lost his shoe.  Paulus was to pick Joran up in the red jeep, but Joran took the wrong road and
missed Paulus.  That is why Joran was seen walking by the witness. 
Got all that ?

[Tamikosmom]

CAPS posted re: "I live here now, After september 11, I came down to see my parents." Feb. 18, 2008    8:42 pm
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

CAPS SIGNED IN: IT IS 12:35 HIS TIME (EASTERN)
     Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #764 7/11  (Read 2298 times)
dennisintn, cajun miracle, CapsLockWizard, Helen Back, Destiny, texasmom, Rooscrew, GabbyG, crazybabyborg, Tylergal and 26 Guests are viewing this topic.
He was looking at tripod site at the videos:http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.500

Hi Kermit

Does that above coincident with the research you have done pertaining to the the identification of CAPS.

Ribbits and Ribbits

Janet

Many nights he was sitting here reading, gathering information.
Seems like if a person already talked to a witness and had information they would not need to be reading in order to post the information they allegedly knew about.

I agree.  Caps' knowledge pertaining to many aspect of the Natalee Holloway case was lacking.

However ... I was wondering if your research on Caps' identity revealed that he indeed had only resided in Aruban since 9/11?

Ribbit

Janet