Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 - 3/31/09

[oldiebutgoodie]

Hotping,
Remember Patrick van der Eem said Dolphi Ricchardson said Joran was working as a male prostitute I believe he said at age 17.  Could that account for Renfro's abnormal interest in the affairs of teens?  Could it also be how Joran became untouchable?  I have always thought it a good possibility.

Joran? A hooker? Like... ew. Who'd pay for such an ugly skank as Joran? He's a customer of that porno site that's like the Aruban version of "Girls Gone Wild" except it's guys driving a van around and seeing what girls will get into the van and have sex with them while they videotape it.

Did Paulus van der Sloot give legal help to the group of Dutch pedophiles who formed their own political party in order to legalize child rape (lowering the age of consent to 12)? Was Paulus involved with a pedophile or other sex scandal in the Netherlands? Is that why the van der Sloot family had to skedaddle to Aruba and why Paulus was never promoted to official judge? Or did he ever make the grade? Did his mafia buddies like Posner get him a judgeship at last?

...uhhhhh, we aren't talking "Aruban Gigolo" -- we are talking "male prostitute" of the gay kind! (have you seen some of his "friends"?)

So... if Paulus was involved in helping pedos legalize child sex and Joran was still a child (under 18) and having sex with men for money... it's sort of like the family hobby, then, isn't it? How proud Aruba must be to be represented in the world media by two such fine specimens of Aruban manhood.

B-b-b-u-t, they're not even Arubans!

[texasmom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

Items uncovered in Aruba pond as search continues for Holloway

(NECN/WGGB) - The search for a missing Alabama teen continues at the bottom of a pond in Aruba.

A Chicopee, Massachusetts based private investigator was hired to search there for the remains of Natalee Holloway.

As you may recall, she disappeared in 2005 during a senior class trip.

Fred Golba and his crew searched a significant portion of a local pond.

They uncovered a pair of women's underwear, a purse, a backpack, and 3 car seat covers.

Golba says his team is not sure how long the items have been there or who they belong too.

A witness claims he saw lead suspect Joran Van der Sloot leaving this pond the night Natalee disappeared.

The search continues Saturday.

[BUCKSHOT]

Quote from: ohcanada on March 27, 2009, 09:18:26 PM »  

just a further thought
lets say they hurt her VERY BAD at the rock location
took her to vds house 2:00 ish ..because they couldnt take her back to her hotel
....kalpoes went home......on computer back and forth with joran..
natalee dies (in the vds tub)....joran and daddy vds take natalee to the pond....joran disposes of natalee as daddy circles the block until joran sufaces and then they go home 4:30ish........this would go along with satish saying ..hows the girl and the kalpoes apparent lack of knowledge other than "all that stuff"

All of the above, I suppose, is possible...

*J2K, the native teenagers, lived in the "fast lane."
*No doubt they knew and had "places" to take their conquests.
*The rocks definitely could have played a part. There has no been good satisfying explanation for why a group of painters showed up in the middle of the day to paint them. Unless you believe that it was to prevent tourist vehicle from running into them at night.
*Then, a sighting at raquest club. Definitely makes sense and fits. A deceased female tourist on their hands. Panick was probably setting in on them. Deepak did not seem too happy and flipped a domino game over at hearing they had been seen.  
*Paulus had to be called and they knew it. He knew the law and had plenty of contacts, both above and below board.
*From here, only a few people know the exact details. back to Sloot home or a temporary hiding place, maybe.
*From here: use your imagination..all kinds of rumors. ATM visits, party at LVR, crab cage/knife/break-in at fisherman's huts, text messages, chat sessions online, research of "drugs and alcohol" on Sloot computer, bathtub, porn sites, catch the bus or not, go to school or not, Freddy camera, 6:30AM call, muddy JVDS, etc.
*The aftermath-tidbits: fresh concrete at Sloot home, school headmaster, security guards, furniture delivery truck at Sloot home, blocked Sloot search, weak interrogations, blood to chocolate in DK car, switched DK car, rumored sex parties (JM,JR, and other elders), CAPS, SHango, Simian, Clyde Burke, VanderStraaten, Jossy, Schippers, Renfro, Judges, Dompig, Jansen, Mos, Richardson, Jacobs, Oduber, Croes,, Posner, growing suspect lists - VanCromvoirt, SCroes, Guido, Koen, Freddy, Max(es), LVR, mysterious necktie death, Harley guy found dead, natural bridge goes down, AHATA junping on board, bloody mattress, CharlesCroes and his phone connections, and on and on - too many to name. So many pop in my head. Some of them are true and relative, most of them are not. The bigger the cloud, the more ambiguous it becomes.

My calculations:
** The crime happened quickly, relative to everything. From the time they left CnC (1am-ish) until about 5am-ish maximum.
**Aruba has been in cover-up mode ever since. Four years later, they refuse to admit wrongdoing and corruption.

Totals: Crime(4hrs). Cover-up(4years).

Aruba did not expect the relentlessness of this family. The security guards almost got framed. Aruba thought it could wipe this under the rug. Once the international media got hold of it, though, their goose became cooked. They were front and center and all eyes were on them. Like a liar always does, they stuck to their lies.

Note: I have could add stuff to this message for days and it would not completely express my thoughts on the matter. But, gotta run...BBL.

[wreck]

Items uncovered in Aruba pond as search continues for Holloway

(NECN/WGGB) - The search for a missing Alabama teen continues at the bottom of a pond in Aruba.

A Chicopee, Massachusetts based private investigator was hired to search there for the remains of Natalee Holloway.

As you may recall, she disappeared in 2005 during a senior class trip.

Fred Golba and his crew searched a significant portion of a local pond.

They uncovered a pair of women's underwear, a purse, a backpack, and 3 car seat covers, a partial skull (or hermit crab), a pelvic bone, a piece of blue denim, and 6 large baggies.

Golba says his team is not sure how long the items have been there or who they belong too.

A witness claims he saw lead suspect Joran Van der Sloot leaving this pond the night Natalee disappeared.

The search continues Saturday.

[oldiebutgoodie]

Items uncovered in Aruba pond as search continues for Holloway

(NECN/WGGB) - The search for a missing Alabama teen continues at the bottom of a pond in Aruba.

A Chicopee, Massachusetts based private investigator was hired to search there for the remains of Natalee Holloway.

As you may recall, she disappeared in 2005 during a senior class trip.

Fred Golba and his crew searched a significant portion of a local pond.

They uncovered a pair of women's underwear, a purse, a backpack, and 3 car seat covers, a partial skull (or hermit crab), a pelvic bone, a piece of blue denim, and 6 large baggies.

Golba says his team is not sure how long the items have been there or who they belong too.

A witness claims he saw lead suspect Joran Van der Sloot leaving this pond the night Natalee disappeared.

The search continues Saturday.

B-b-b-u-t... aren't baggies a natural sea life formation (at least, in Aruban waters)?

[nonesuche]

Nonesuche,

I hope you get some REAL rest now as that is too much work.  You have burned the candle at both ends since the loss of your Beloved and I hope the time is coming when you can unload some of the burden of being the sole support for yourself and your children but you have put forth superhuman effort in that regard.

I admire your courage and effort.  Working your job plus the cookie business was the maximum a mother could do and you have earned a break from it all.  I hope the economy won't prevent your getting it.

Gosh Anna, what a kind and generous post. I appreciate your kind support so much. We all have struggles and I admire you and others here, that push forward beyond obstacles daily but never ask for praise. I have lots of company with many other hard working single mothers that haven't been as fortunate as myself. I hope you have a great weekend and enjoy the redbud's for I surely loved seeing the photo!

[oldiebutgoodie]

Nonesuche,

I hope you get some REAL rest now as that is too much work.  You have burned the candle at both ends since the loss of your Beloved and I hope the time is coming when you can unload some of the burden of being the sole support for yourself and your children but you have put forth superhuman effort in that regard.

I admire your courage and effort.  Working your job plus the cookie business was the maximum a mother could do and you have earned a break from it all.  I hope the economy won't prevent your getting it.

Gosh Anna, what a kind and generous post. I appreciate your kind support so much. We all have struggles and I admire you and others here, that push forward beyond obstacles daily but never ask for praise. I have lots of company with many other hard working single mothers that haven't been as fortunate as myself. I hope you have a great weekend and enjoy the redbud's for I surely loved seeing the photo!

I have tremendous respect for single working Moms. After my Dad left when I was 10 years old, my mother raised three children, worked full-time as a kindergarten teacher, and graduated from college. You have to reach beyond normal human strength and endurance, beyond the limits of your own personal capacity for patience and understanding and exist in a "zone" that us average humans will never really understand because you can't know until you've been there, done that. And you still have to hold that child while they are crying because they got a sticker in their foot or they are sick with flu and give them all the love you have in your heart and at least that, thank G-d, is endless. And you never even expect a "thank you." But, they will understand one day and they will thank you.

[nonesuche]

  Now I'm confused by the article oldiebg posted, do you have a direct link to it?

Wasn't it stated that Golba could not speak to the media for the next two weeks?

[nonesuche]

Oldiebutgoodie you should be so proud of your Mom as I am sure she's proud of each of you. My children have made me proud and have certainly been well worth the effort. They both seem to understand it takes lots of hard work to make it in this world and if they have learned that, I'm confident they have the tools to make it.

[klaasend]

Now I'm confused by the article oldiebg posted, do you have a direct link to it?

Wasn't it stated that Golba could not speak to the media for the next two weeks?

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/2009/03/28/Items-uncovered-in-Aruba-pond/1238240035.html

Article link but I'm having problems getting it to open.  Also, posted by Johan at BFN.  Wonder if Johan and ******* are getting his photos directly from Capslock, Renfro or is someone like Hotshot there?

[klaasend]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/7oAJOsYL__4&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/7oAJOsYL__4&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>

[nonesuche]

Klaas I get a system exception the moment the found items in the video come into view?

I wouldn't doubt if dark lord and friends have a Renfro connection, not at all.

[nonesuche]

Klaas the video on the link worked best for me, just an FYI.

[klaasend]

At the very end of the video:






And for those who wish to copy 

[texasmom]

Now I'm confused by the article oldiebg posted, do you have a direct link to it?

Wasn't it stated that Golba could not speak to the media for the next two weeks?

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/2009/03/28/Items-uncovered-in-Aruba-pond/1238240035.html

Article link but I'm having problems getting it to open.  Also, posted by Johan at BFN.  Wonder if Johan and ******* are getting his photos directly from Capslock, Renfro or is someone like Hotshot there?

After viewing the video at the link, I think Johan's photos are probably taken from it.  JMO

[nonesuche]

  Klaas I just made some too

[texasmom]

At the very end of the video:






And for those who wish to copy 

 

 

[klaasend]

Texasmom - I agree, Johan took is screen caps from the video just as I did.  That's why I'm showing how silly Johan is 

[klaasend]

Klaas I just made some too

Too funny, "not copywrited"