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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #320 on:
March 29, 2009, 02:07:27 AM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 01:46:55 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 01:19:14 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 01:05:04 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 12:52:19 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 12:43:38 AM
Ritz Carlton first five star hotel 20 February 2009
ORANJESTAD - After four years of negotiations, the Aruban government has finally her first five-star hotel, The Ritz-Carlton. The hotel with 320 rooms will come next to the Marriott resort that is also the parent company of this luxurious hotel chain.
The 360 million florins investment is officially done by the Venezuelan group Desarrollos Hotelco S.A. that turned out to be the best from a public tender.
Interesting...
Renaissance Curacao Resort and Casino 4 February 2009
Oranjestad - The Renaissance Curacao Resort & Casino is officially open! This week, the resort started receiving guests formally. For the past few days, guests were allowed to check in, but they were part of the trial run. For those that don't know it,
Renaissance Curacao Resort & Casino was constructed and will be operated by MetaCorp Aruba.
This project carried a price tag of more than US$ 90.000.000 and it has become a magnificent Renaissance that forms part of the World-Renowned Marriott chain. The Curacao branch of the hotel, offers a total of 240 rooms and very elegant, spacious and luxurious suites.
http://www.yellowpages-aruba.com/home/news
The hotel will become the Renaissance Aruba Beach Resort & Casino, a welcomed addition to the Renaissance collection, part of the Marriott hotel group. Marriott brings to the resort 75 years of experience and more that 2000 hotels worldwide.
Eduardo de Veer, the owner of Metacorp, which is the parent company of the hotel
, will retain its current management.
ATCO
The ATCO story truly tells how diverse Fleet Cost & Care Software has become. Requiring basic fleet management vertical systems combined with wireless data transfer was just one aspect of ATCO’s needs.
To get better feel for how diverse this company is one must realize what ATCO does for the people of Aruba its visitors from all over the globe.
ATCO, as a part of MetaCorp,
a conglomerate of companies in a wide variety of markets, was incorporated in 1949. At that time mostly active in the transport business for Exxon's Oil Refinery (LAGO), not only transporting regular cargo, but also moving extraordinary cargo such as parts for the expansion of the plant. Over the last fifty years ATCO has constructed what it takes to be a modern leader in the Aruban transport business.
Throughout the last half century ATCO has constructed and maintained a tradition of high quality transportation services on the island." Despite increasing competition, ATCO maintained the edge by using amongst others state of the art, innovative equipment. It is therefore that ATCO introduced the first Roll on Roll off container system in Aruba, enabling container of 40 feet to be transported without the use of chassis.
The Operational division of ATCO is where it all began. Between 1950 and 1975 Associated Transport Company Inc., based its income mainly on transporting bulk cargo for the Lago Oil Refinery.
This division has since then grown into a diversified unit consisting of:
The Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association General Assembly Elects
A New Board for AHATA
A.M. Digital
12/05/2005
Board members voted in are businessman
Eduardo de Veer, Renaissance/Meta Corp;[/
b] Banker Bill Carson, Caribbean Mercantile Bank; hotelier Scott Allen, Hyatt Regency; Director Peter Steinmetz, Aruba Airport Authority; Public Relations official David Smith, Valero Oil Refinery, Lisette Malmberg, De Palm Tours and hotelier Werner Hein, Occidental Resort.
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
2005-2006 President's Council Membership
Eduardo De Veer,
B.B.A. '64
President and Chief Executive Officer, MetaCorp N.V.
Business/Industry: Hospitality
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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March 29, 2009, 02:11:20 AM »
Link for the council above..Very interesting group..
http://www6.miami.edu/alumni/umaa/pc/membership.asp
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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March 29, 2009, 02:15:02 AM »
Quote from: Anna on March 29, 2009, 02:06:23 AM
KTF,
Isn't there a registry that will tell you the location of all commercial vessels?
There should be Anna..I believe Schaefer leases the Gulmar Falcon from Gulmar offshore which register's there ships out of Panama.Panama is like Aruba when it comes to hiding businesses..I search each ships name..Still Digging..
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #323 on:
March 29, 2009, 02:17:04 AM »
Ah, I should have known it would be complicated and not just straight listing by this country.
Keeeeeeep Digggginggg!
Off to the monkey bunkey, goodnight, all.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #324 on:
March 29, 2009, 02:20:46 AM »
Quote from: Anna on March 29, 2009, 02:17:04 AM
Ah, I should have known it would be complicated and not just straight listing by this country.
Keeeeeeep Digggginggg!
Off to the monkey bunkey, goodnight, all.
Goodnight Anna!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #325 on:
March 29, 2009, 02:30:26 AM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 01:46:55 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 01:19:14 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 01:05:04 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 12:52:19 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 12:43:38 AM
Ritz Carlton first five star hotel 20 February 2009
ORANJESTAD - After four years of negotiations, the Aruban government has finally her first five-star hotel, The Ritz-Carlton. The hotel with 320 rooms will come next to the Marriott resort that is also the parent company of this luxurious hotel chain.
The 360 million florins investment is officially done by the Venezuelan group Desarrollos Hotelco S.A. that turned out to be the best from a public tender.
Interesting...
Renaissance Curacao Resort and Casino 4 February 2009
Oranjestad - The Renaissance Curacao Resort & Casino is officially open! This week, the resort started receiving guests formally. For the past few days, guests were allowed to check in, but they were part of the trial run. For those that don't know it,
Renaissance Curacao Resort & Casino was constructed and will be operated by MetaCorp Aruba.
This project carried a price tag of more than US$ 90.000.000 and it has become a magnificent Renaissance that forms part of the World-Renowned Marriott chain. The Curacao branch of the hotel, offers a total of 240 rooms and very elegant, spacious and luxurious suites.
http://www.yellowpages-aruba.com/home/news
The hotel will become the Renaissance Aruba Beach Resort & Casino, a welcomed addition to the Renaissance collection, part of the Marriott hotel group. Marriott brings to the resort 75 years of experience and more that 2000 hotels worldwide.
Eduardo de Veer, the owner of Metacorp, which is the parent company of the hotel
, will retain its current management.
ATCO
The ATCO story truly tells how diverse Fleet Cost & Care Software has become. Requiring basic fleet management vertical systems combined with wireless data transfer was just one aspect of ATCO’s needs.
To get better feel for how diverse this company is one must realize what ATCO does for the people of Aruba its visitors from all over the globe.
ATCO, as a part of MetaCorp,
a conglomerate of companies in a wide variety of markets, was incorporated in 1949. At that time mostly active in the transport business for Exxon's Oil Refinery (LAGO), not only transporting regular cargo, but also moving extraordinary cargo such as parts for the expansion of the plant. Over the last fifty years ATCO has constructed what it takes to be a modern leader in the Aruban transport business.
Throughout the last half century ATCO has constructed and maintained a tradition of high quality transportation services on the island." Despite increasing competition, ATCO maintained the edge by using amongst others state of the art, innovative equipment. It is therefore that ATCO introduced the first Roll on Roll off container system in Aruba, enabling container of 40 feet to be transported without the use of chassis.
The Operational division of ATCO is where it all began. Between 1950 and 1975 Associated Transport Company Inc., based its income mainly on transporting bulk cargo for the Lago Oil Refinery.
This division has since then grown into a diversified unit consisting of:
The Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association General Assembly Elects
A New Board for AHATA
A.M. Digital
12/05/2005
Board members voted in are businessman
Eduardo de Veer, Renaissance/Meta Corp;[/
b] Banker Bill Carson, Caribbean Mercantile Bank; hotelier Scott Allen, Hyatt Regency; Director Peter Steinmetz, Aruba Airport Authority; Public Relations official David Smith, Valero Oil Refinery, Lisette Malmberg, De Palm Tours and hotelier Werner Hein, Occidental Resort.
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
2005-2006 President's Council Membership
Eduardo De Veer,
B.B.A. '64
President and Chief Executive Officer, MetaCorp N.V.
Business/Industry: Hospitality
NEW YORK MILITARY ACADEMY
Trustees Emeriti
Mr. Eduardo deVeer
'60
Oranjestad, Aruba
http://www.nyma.org/page.cfm?p=268
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #326 on:
March 29, 2009, 02:47:34 AM »
24ora
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/7951/8/
Papiamentu translation:
buskeda of natalee is follow in dam of montserat
saturday, 28 march 2009 - 16:00
as cu can wordo see on the imagennan adhunto, the buskeda of natalee is continua in the dam of montserat. the trip here we can see cu was have participacion of cuerpo of bombero. till still, nothing not owing to wordo achieve. sinembargo so self is busca for see what can come come across cune. click read more for more imagen. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #327 on:
March 29, 2009, 02:50:20 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on March 29, 2009, 02:47:34 AM
24ora
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/7951/8/
Papiamentu translation:
buskeda of natalee is follow in dam of montserat
saturday, 28 march 2009 - 16:00
as cu can wordo see on the imagennan adhunto, the buskeda of natalee is continua in the dam of montserat. the trip here we can see cu was have participacion of cuerpo of bombero. till still, nothing not owing to wordo achieve. sinembargo so self is busca for see what can come come across cune. click read more for more imagen. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #328 on:
March 29, 2009, 03:02:57 AM »
Here are the rest of the pictures: Sorry, but I had to reboot!
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/7951/8/
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #329 on:
March 29, 2009, 03:22:22 AM »
3/25/2009
http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery2/displayimage.php?album=67&pos=29
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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March 29, 2009, 03:25:42 AM »
Here's something interesting in the Aruba is "One Happy Family"...
Harvey Werleman
Network and System Administrator
Aruba Hospital
(Hospital & Health Care industry)
Currently holds this position
IT
Metacorp NV
(Executive Office industry)
June 2003 — June 2008 (5 years 1 month)
All It related Job
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #331 on:
March 29, 2009, 03:26:45 AM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 03:25:42 AM
Here's something interesting in the Aruba is "One Happy Family"...
Harvey Werleman
Network and System Administrator
Aruba Hospital
(Hospital & Health Care industry)
Currently holds this position
IT
Metacorp NV
(Executive Office industry)
June 2003 — June 2008 (5 years 1 month)
All It related Job
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/harvey/werleman
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http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery2/displayimage.php?album=67&pos=6
Is that a man or woman that's right behind her?
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on March 29, 2009, 03:28:20 AM
http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery2/displayimage.php?album=67&pos=6
Is that a man or woman that's right behind her?
Doesn't matter to Renho..Either way..Just sayin..
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #334 on:
March 29, 2009, 03:42:28 AM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 03:34:24 AM
Quote from: texasmom on March 29, 2009, 03:28:20 AM
http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery2/displayimage.php?album=67&pos=6
Is that a man or woman that's right behind her?
Doesn't matter to Renho..Either way..Just sayin..
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #335 on:
March 29, 2009, 03:51:37 AM »
Have You seen this posted on Silvetti's Site
http://www.silvettigroup.com/Nat.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #336 on:
March 29, 2009, 03:54:09 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on March 29, 2009, 03:42:28 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 03:34:24 AM
Quote from: texasmom on March 29, 2009, 03:28:20 AM
http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery2/displayimage.php?album=67&pos=6
Is that a man or woman that's right behind her?
Doesn't matter to Renho..Either way..Just sayin..
I really think Renho needs to invest in some larger clothes...She has alittle hangout going on....Her kids must be Very Proud of the way She dresses...
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In God We Trust!
Prayers Will Bring Natalee Home!
May 2010 Bring Natalee Home to Rest In Peace!
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Reply #337 on:
March 29, 2009, 03:58:24 AM »
Quote from: hotping on March 29, 2009, 03:51:37 AM
Have You seen this posted on Silvetti's Site
http://www.silvettigroup.com/Nat.html
Yeah.funny you posted that because i was reading an article from the Iberian papaer where Silvetti was saying it wasn't about publicity or name recognition..Something like that..Tehn he posts all that stuff on his website..Hmmmmm...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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March 29, 2009, 03:59:41 AM »
Quote from: hotping on March 29, 2009, 03:51:37 AM
Have You seen this posted on Silvetti's Site
http://www.silvettigroup.com/Nat.html
The individual items were there, but not like it is now; and I don't recall Natalee's picture being there either.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #339 on:
March 29, 2009, 04:00:52 AM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 29, 2009, 03:58:24 AM
Quote from: hotping on March 29, 2009, 03:51:37 AM
Have You seen this posted on Silvetti's Site
http://www.silvettigroup.com/Nat.html
Yeah.funny you posted that because i was reading an article from the Iberian papaer where Silvetti was saying it wasn't about publicity or name recognition..Something like that..Tehn he posts all that stuff on his website..Hmmmmm...
“
Nothing is being done to gain name recognition.
This is to help these people,” Silvetti said. “Most of us have watched this on television, and I can only imagine the horror any parent would go through searching for their child in a foreign country.”
http://www.iberianet.com/articles/2007/11/29/news/news/news00.txt
Seems like his webpage contradicts his own statement..You think??
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===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
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===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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