Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 - 3/31/09

[Keepthefaith]

ADO..

My own opinion is; No body no case + incinerator operator suicide = no body. JMO

As I recall during the get together Paulus had with the prime suspects he said "no body no case". (Somebody correct me if that is not what he was quoted as saying.) He didn't say "If they can't find the body no case". It seems to me the only sure way to eliminate a body is to incinerate it. Just a few months later for no apparent reason an incinerator operator commits Arubacide. 
So I am only putting two and two together. They incinerate the body. They suspect the incincerator operator might talk so they do him in.
I know it's a simple theory with little factual information, but that's what makes sense to me as the most likely scenario.
An again, it's just my theory.

Ado

I do appreciate your candor Ado!Although i tend o disagree with you.. I would be even more thankful if you could enlighten me to why the Cage/Trap is a diversion..What am i missing??TIA

KEEPTHEFAITH

Keepthefaith,
I'll have to go way back in the threads to remember the specifics of my reasoning on that but I don't have time left today to do it. I have an appointment in an hour and need to log out. I'll try to be back in here tomorrow.
 
Ado

Maybe this will help,maybe not??

ADO
Anna,

Well.......I agree for the most part with Robots.
MOS has em cornered and they're going to be in jail for much much longer than any eight days or sixty days.
MOS is not part of the Aruban system, he's part of the Dutch system and he seems the type that has career aspirations. He wouldn't take any risks at ruining his future by filing manslaughter charges he can't prove. He's got the goods on them. He wouldn't say he has proof she is deceased if he didn'thave the proof. On a side note, IMO I think MOS has some photographic or video evidence. We all know the pimps were involved in the porn business.
On the ocean search - Everybody can try to figure out how he and TES know exactly where to look but right now the fact is they know where to look. How they found out where to look may become public sometime down the road but it's too soon for MOS to disclose that information. Again, the fact is they know where to look, and that to me is a major breakthrough, and MOS isn't hinting how they found out. It's has to be driving those involved in the crime nuts.
Notice that JT is trying all he can to get some sort of response from MOS and....................nothing. He (MOS) is not going to respond now matter what JT claims.
If there is an information/evidence leak MOS and the 45 KLPD will find the source.
On arresting Paulus - It would not be a good idea to arrest Paulus this soon. In doing so you would have to disclose evidence to him and he might be able to start cover up activities in motion, or get word to J2K on the "new" story line to follow.
I see a lot of folks in here claiming the sky is falling because this hasn't happened yet, or that person should be arrested and isn't, or Satish's lawyer said it's just the same old stuff. Myself, I think within a month we'll know must of what happened.
I do hope TES has some sort of navy protective support out there. This is dangerous stuff.

ADO.

KEEPTHEFAITH
I'm confused ADO..Seems you were thinking about Natalee Holloway being in the ocean or am i mistaken??

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_54600.php

Stephen Daal new ATIA
March 30, 2009, 16:12 (GMT -04:00)

   
Stephen Daal (right), director of Viking Freight, was appointed last Friday as the new chairman of undertakings ATIA. Juan David Yrausquin (left) is a step back and vice chairman.

ORANGE CITY - After two years as chairman to have been ATIA did Juan David Yrausquin last Friday one step back. Stephen Daal, director of Viking Freight, the new chairman of the association.

Yrausquin continues as vice chairman. ATIA is in a restructuring and wants to a model similar to that of the Aruban Hotel and Tourism Association (Ahata), a director with the daily management of the organization performs and acts as spokesman. In order to achieve ATIA has a principle agreement with VNO-NCW in the Netherlands for providing assistance and expertise. However, during this transitional period under the chairmanship of Daal will process things differently. So will not the president, but someone else lead the meeting and each board member gets their own portfolio, such as revenue, labor and business integrity. Board in its meeting on Friday was re-elected Stephen Daal, Frank Snijders, Jurgen van Schaijk and Prakash Gupta. New in the management of ATIA are Michel Henriquez, Robert Croes II, Wim Hoenink and Enrique 'Tito' de Cuba. Juan David Yrausquin, Michelle Wink Laar and Greg Peterson were elected last year and remain on the board of ATIA.

Public Relations
In his farewell speech as President Juan David Yrausquin said that the difficult relationship built up between ATIA and the government is not holy, and that this should be released if the government does not act transparently. Yrausquin had been several attempts to improve the contact with the Oduber-cabinet in the past two years pass in review. He also said a number of moments where he had managed to lobby to stop a number of laws which he said "ATIA, its members and ultimately the Aruban people" would have a disadvantage.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_54597.php

Google translation:

Aruba
More flights from New York
March 30, 2009, 16:05 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The U.S. airlines Jetblue and Delta fly to September 2009 more from New York to Reina Beatrix airport. This has the Aruba Airport Authority (AAA) published.

Jetblue Airways has extended its summer now and fly between March 8 and September 8, 2009 twice daily. In addition, the airline pointed out in this period by one third daily flight on Saturday. Delta Airlines on Thursday third flight added in the period between July 1 and September 5, 2009. Each flight has a capacity of between 150 and 185 seats. Airline American Airlines applies per June 10, 2009 arrival and departure of its two weekly flights from New York. The new arrival is 12:20 hours and departure time is 13:30 pm.
To expand capacity to achieve AAA has participated in events of ATA and Tourism Tourist Organization Ahata where major airlines at present. AAA is very pleased that, despite warnings from International Air Transport Association (IATA) that the aviation industry in the 'intensive care' is, its aviation partners has been able to convince the capacity of flights from New York to Aruba to enlarge.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_54595.php

Google translation:

Aruba
Weekend full of accidents
March 30, 2009, 16:02 (GMT -04:00)



Emergency services were this weekend quite busy.


ORANGE CITY - The police had their hands full last weekend to accidents in traffic. Sunday hit an American tourist during a trip at Conchi with its quad racer on the head and is injured. Probably they have a broken hip.

 
The woman with the helicopter transported to the hospital for treatment. The third is the second accident with a quad racer in Conchi within a week where the helicopter was deployed. This morning was another message received from third accident at the tourist attraction, again with a quad racer.

In Palm Beach is a drunk driver with his car drove through a red light and caused an accident when he collided with another car, finally stopped at a lamppost to come. The occupants of the car are gone by and left with the laveloze driver sitting behind the wheel. Beside the chauffeur was a bottle of spirits and he did not react when the agents he claims. The man had injuries to his head and was in the ambulance to the hospital is.

[Blue Moon]

Rob next time you are here will you please respond to Sam so they will stop this:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4724.new#new

[Sam]

Thank You Blue Moon,

so now I can just say my prayers for Natalee and her family.

[Kermit]

Still waiting on anyone's reason's to continue to support the CapsLockWizard!

KTF

Me has an open mind...and nothing would surprise me anymore.

this monkey is still absorbing info.
Prayers for Nat.

In my opinion,there is nothing to absorb from CapsLockWizard FOM...He's been nothing but a disinformation specialist and has done much harm to JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY...Again..JMOO

you know that, I know that, he knows that, and he knows WE know it.

by the way - where is the 50 year old unemployed system analyst / professor of logic?

I found an interesting website while researching that creep.  Seems someone has had quite enough of the crap.  Maybe you could send him a letter asking what he's up to these days? 

http://bustarubamisinfo.blogspot.com/

O.K. Kermit did you do this website?   

Nope not moi.

[Kermit]

I beleive IN CapsLockWizard. Yes, it is very simple. I thought my post that you keep quoting explained how I felt about Caps as a poster.

Caps would post many theories as he tried to untangle the many codetalkers prose. Detangling codetalker prose is not something you can do in one day. So depending on what codetalker prose he read and deciphered, he'd go in that direction and post - to put feelers out to see how others reacted. What a "normal" poster would do. Caps is trying to find where Natalee could have been buried. So YES, I agree with what Caps is doing 100%. I didn't agree with all he posted but enjoyed reading his posts. Is that a crime?   

And NO - I don't agree at all about the crab trap. Like I stated in my earlier post, I believe news about the crab trap when I see it on TV or professionals tell me that she was in that crab trap. I cannot believe something from a fuzzy internet pic, sorry.

And since when are posters FORCED to take sides? Yes or No? My goodness. And why am I supposed to uphold a Frog or any other SM poster on another board? If I don't like your post I scroll on by. If I like your post I want to post more with you. That's my rule. I live in the land of the free - I have my own opinions and can state my own opinions, and did not know I was supposed to make friends with everybody. Geesh, I find this all so ludicrous, so childish.

I stand with Natalee - nobody else.

The thing is Jerseygirl,
Caps did not just sit here with you and the other codetalkers, he a busy adult male with his other buddies posting here and emailing Dave that Dave needed to come to Aruba right away that Natalee was in the cemetery.

Where I come from it's called shucking and jiving.

[Magnolia]

Had it been you, Kermit, it would have the red-nosed reindeer in it.

[Magnolia]

I beleive IN CapsLockWizard. Yes, it is very simple. I thought my post that you keep quoting explained how I felt about Caps as a poster.

Caps would post many theories as he tried to untangle the many codetalkers prose. Detangling codetalker prose is not something you can do in one day. So depending on what codetalker prose he read and deciphered, he'd go in that direction and post - to put feelers out to see how others reacted. What a "normal" poster would do. Caps is trying to find where Natalee could have been buried. So YES, I agree with what Caps is doing 100%. I didn't agree with all he posted but enjoyed reading his posts. Is that a crime?   

And NO - I don't agree at all about the crab trap. Like I stated in my earlier post, I believe news about the crab trap when I see it on TV or professionals tell me that she was in that crab trap. I cannot believe something from a fuzzy internet pic, sorry.

And since when are posters FORCED to take sides? Yes or No? My goodness. And why am I supposed to uphold a Frog or any other SM poster on another board? If I don't like your post I scroll on by. If I like your post I want to post more with you. That's my rule. I live in the land of the free - I have my own opinions and can state my own opinions, and did not know I was supposed to make friends with everybody. Geesh, I find this all so ludicrous, so childish.

I stand with Natalee - nobody else.

The thing is Jerseygirl,
Caps did not just sit here with you and the other codetalkers, he a busy adult male with his other buddies posting here and emailing Dave that Dave needed to come to Aruba right away that Natalee was in the cemetery.

Where I come from it's called shucking and jiving.

Well, I'll be damned! 

[Rob]

I beleive IN CapsLockWizard. Yes, it is very simple. I thought my post that you keep quoting explained how I felt about Caps as a poster.

Caps would post many theories as he tried to untangle the many codetalkers prose. Detangling codetalker prose is not something you can do in one day. So depending on what codetalker prose he read and deciphered, he'd go in that direction and post - to put feelers out to see how others reacted. What a "normal" poster would do. Caps is trying to find where Natalee could have been buried. So YES, I agree with what Caps is doing 100%. I didn't agree with all he posted but enjoyed reading his posts. Is that a crime?   

And NO - I don't agree at all about the crab trap. Like I stated in my earlier post, I believe news about the crab trap when I see it on TV or professionals tell me that she was in that crab trap. I cannot believe something from a fuzzy internet pic, sorry.

And since when are posters FORCED to take sides? Yes or No? My goodness. And why am I supposed to uphold a Frog or any other SM poster on another board? If I don't like your post I scroll on by. If I like your post I want to post more with you. That's my rule. I live in the land of the free - I have my own opinions and can state my own opinions, and did not know I was supposed to make friends with everybody. Geesh, I find this all so ludicrous, so childish.

I stand with Natalee - nobody else.

The thing is Jerseygirl,
Caps did not just sit here with you and the other codetalkers, he a busy adult male with his other buddies posting here and emailing Dave that Dave needed to come to Aruba right away that Natalee was in the cemetery.

Where I come from it's called shucking and jiving.

Well, I'll be damned! 

mmmhhhmmm !!! heard that!!! 

[friend of monkeys]

I thought Poochy's post was skeeeeery.

It was Skeeery Magnolia and as far as I'm concerned it was insane......I hope She stays the hell away from this forum...... 

I thought I popped into the friggin twilight zone for a page or two....lol

[MuffyBee]

And now back to our regularly scheduled program:

Natalee Holloway

[Keepthefaith]

And now back to our regularly scheduled program:

Natalee Holloway

I didn't want to get stung by MuffyBee...NoooWayyy

[MuffyBee]

KTF ~  You are doin' just fine.  Like many other monkeys, you are looking for justice for Natalee and want to bring her home. 

[friend of monkeys]

And now back to our regularly scheduled program:

Natalee Holloway

Holy bat cave shit...WTF is going on???

[Keepthefaith]

KTF ~  You are doin' just fine.  Like many other monkeys, you are looking for justice for Natalee and want to bring her home. 

  Just havin fun with the resident Bee!You know bee's are extremely important to the ecosystem!No messin with them Bee's..

[MuffyBee]

And now back to our regularly scheduled program:

Natalee Holloway

Holy bat cave shit...WTF is going on???

   Nothing really.  Just some OT that doesn't belong in missing persons thread.  Hi FOM

[friend of monkeys]

KTF ~  You are doin' just fine.  Like many other monkeys, you are looking for justice for Natalee and want to bring her home. 

  Just havin fun with the resident Bee!You know bee's are extremely important to the ecosystem!No messin with them Bee's..

bees buzz and frogs croak?????     

yep.......gotta love the zoo

[friend of monkeys]

With all due respect Sam and Rob..we have a monkey lounge...need there be a monkey boxing ring too...or a mediation room???

soon I will be in charge of the monkey massage parlor..lol