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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 - 3/31/09 (Read 205592 times)
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jen3560
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #660 on:
March 30, 2009, 01:37:19 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on March 30, 2009, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 30, 2009, 01:03:32 PM
MANSUR: Of course. We know he was involved from the beginning. And after the new wave of things (ph),
Mr. Herman, who saw Joran walking with his clothes all muddy. And then later he was saw him in the car with Paulus van der Sloot.
I don't know how to spell it...Jossy is so hard to hear on television. I would not have a clue if it started with an "h" or a "j" or what considering the language there. If I were trying for a phonetic spelling I would go with "Heilman". Don't hold me to it, I am most likely wrong
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg567204#msg567204
CAPS FIRST POSTS ON FRONT PAGE SAID BODY IN CEMETERY:
Quote from: klaasend on December 21, 2007, 04:52:52 PM
Posted on the front page of SM (this person appears to be posting from Aruba):
CapslockWizard wrote:
<snip>
The reason that no one can find her is that she must be among all the dead in the cemetery and who is going to search a cemetery for a body where there is already a lot of body in the place.
<snip>
he Logic is, nobody is going to look in a cemetery and if you are going to search a cemetery, it will be difficult to search without disturbing the graves. And another drawback is that you need permission of the families to open all the Kelders.
And this is my theory on this case and my logic thinking.
CapslockWizard
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2463.720
THEN CAPS says BODY NOT IN OCEAN:
the body was never in the occean..the holding place was the pond
. till other arrangements. which is what Shango was talking about "There was a game goining down" meaning "there was a funeral to be held". and "light the fires" means light the candles.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.160
« Reply #782 on: Today at 10:02:15 PM » CAPS
At the appropiate time all in the dark will come to light.
meeting at 6 pm on sunday, plan B ----- watch the news these days.
THE COVER UP CONTINUES ...
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/14/natalee-holloway-new-witness-in-aruba-ids-joran-van-der-sloot-and-prosecution-continues-the-cover-up/
Jossy:
Yes. Both Joran and Paul are implicated in the witnessess' declaration. That will come out in the second delivery soon.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.760
ORANJESTAD (AAN): In the month of June,
a cruel case took place in Sabana Basora
that shocked not only those who live in the neighborhood but also the whole community.
<snip>
Simply said, the families are none too happy with the investigations that are currently taking place in Aruba.
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_10_09_archive.html
GUESS WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CEMETERY IS LOCATED?:
Police is investigating the cause behind the dead of the ma
n Rene van
Heyningen whose body was found behind the
Government cemetery at
Sabana Basora
So
Sixto Vrolijk
and
Jose Giron
are on the MEP party along with vd straaten and Jeannette Richardson
so
they would be connected with Van der Straaten and Dolf Richardson's wife.
The witness says he saw paulus that night and Joran near the pond.
So, how would this get a conviction of Joran and/or his father?
Even if a shoe is found in that pond?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4448.msg648548#msg648548
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4743.140
Jose
Giron
Sabana Basora
20-C
Tel/Fax: 585 1030
http://tinyurl.com/bc4k7e
Silly me! I had been looking at Geerman as the name of the witness.
You are such a smart Frog!
Just kind of jumps right out at you, doesn't it? Phoenetically, anyway.
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #661 on:
March 30, 2009, 01:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 01:18:13 PM
Keepthefaith, Kermit, Tamikosmom, Magnolia, ksl,
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Welcome Monkey's ...Anything to ADD Adoronron???
Keepthefaith
Unless his/her position has changed ... I do believe that adoronron said it all in the following post.
Janet
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adoronron
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
« Reply #143 on: December 31, 2008, 05:52:55 PM »
Mum,
I pop on every few days to catch up. I used to get involved with the discussions but for some time now, it seems to me, not much headway is being made. And I think the reason is the diversions that occur. It's as if someone or several people are watching SM and every so often they determine SM is on to something and they implement a diversion. Whoever he, she, or they are, they must be very satisfied with their most recent endeavor what with all the terse posts of late among the SMer's.
I agree with your comment "As far as I can see this cage business is the diversion".
My own opinion is; No body no case + incinerator operator suicide = no body. JMO
Ado
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4328.msg605405#msg605405
Again..No answer...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #662 on:
March 30, 2009, 01:43:13 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on March 30, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on March 30, 2009, 01:14:06 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 30, 2009, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 12:55:57 PM
What i also have a MAJOR problem with is...Who was Van Der Stratten's Secretary??Wasn't it a Mansur??
I believe it was Sarah Mansur
I'm confused... I thought Dolf Richardson's wife was van der Straten's secretary?
No - Jeannette Richardson was in charge of personnel for the police department.
Thanks, Jen!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #663 on:
March 30, 2009, 01:43:15 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on March 30, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on March 30, 2009, 01:14:06 PM
I'm confused... I thought Dolf Richardson's wife was van der Straten's secretary?
No - Jeannette Richardson was in charge of personnel for the police department.
[/quote]
Here's what I found on her Lifesong -
Police Headquarters
Staff Division
Head of Staff
Mrs Jeannette H.J. Richardson - Baars, MA
jhjrichardson@kparuba.com
Department of Criminal Investigation
Noord Police Precinct
Head of Criminal Investigations
Mr Adolfo E Richardson LLM
http://www.historie-sliedrecht.nl/Genea%20Baars.htm
2.
Jeannette Hubertha Johanna(Jetty) Baars
, geboren 16 april 1967,gehuwd op 16-12-1994
met Adolfo Ernesto Richardson geboren
24-9-1967 Aruba
From The Barbados Advocate
Jeannette Richardson
ANY of the countries in the Caribbean region can be faced, as Aruba was recently, with the issue of visitor safety and security, as such, this will be the theme of the upcoming Association of Caribbean Commissioners of Police (ACCP) conference to be held in that Dutch territory next year.
Giving an outline of the draft agenda for the conference,
Jeanette Richardson- Baar, Chief of Staff, to the Commissioner of Police of Aruba
said that the conference will be a perfect opportunity to showcase to everyone abroad that Aruba still is a very safe and secure island to visit. Her comments came as she spoke to those gathered for the final day of the ACCP Inter-sessional meeting at the Amaryllis Beach Resort yesterday.
http:scaredmonkeys.com/2005/12/09/accp-countries-to-learn-from-arubas-experience-with-natalee-holloway/
Hoofd Staf Korpschef Jeannette Richardson ext: 991
http://www.kparuba.com/contacts.html
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #664 on:
March 30, 2009, 01:47:51 PM »
The dots are being connected!!
Beth Holloway is a believer in connecting the dots.
Janet
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Transcript: Stunning Development in Holloway Case
Tuesday, April 18, 2006
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE'S MOTHER: ... And when I think of Joran van der Sloot and when I think of Steven Croes and I think of this new suspect (GVC) and the lies that were coming out early, very early, the moment we arrived on the island, if we find out that these three suspects are acquaintances or know each other —
somebody needs to connect the dots
. I mean, there certainly is a reason why Steven Croes came forward early on and stated, lied to the authorities that he had seen the two security guards taking Natalee. You know, people don't just do that for no reason, Greta.
Somebody needs to connect the dots
on those three, if they know each other.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192141,00.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #665 on:
March 30, 2009, 01:49:15 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 11:16:42 AM
POOCHY
I brought this post here from the main thread because I totally agree with SS.
Caps does not deserve what was written about him at all on the main thread. In fact I wish CAPS would come back and post on this codetalker thread
-- most of his theories come from deciphering codetaker prose. SS, only a handful 'bashed' Caps on the main thread. Most of us would like for him to ignore that and come back and tell us what he's learned so far.
His last post was about the masonic graveyard and then poof - lets bash Caps because he is "diverting us" from the crab trap. I say who is 'diverting' whom?
Maybe those with the crab trap theory are diverting the rest of us from other avenues.
Everybody is just tossing out theories and truly care about Natalee and her family. Unless I missed something that a professional said, like Greta, on national tv said that Natalee's remains were definitely in that trap, then I will believe it, but until then, to me it is just another theory. Nobody knows.
Colombo - Mum - and other SM codetalker posters, thanks for keeping this thread alive as we interpret codetalker prose.
CAPS - COME BACK!
Keepthefaith, klaasend, jen3560, friend of monkeys, Lifesong, Patriot, NM,
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, kkate and 8 Guests are viewing this topic.
Still believe in CapsLockWizard Poochy??
Well, well, well, so
POOCHY
has finally made it on your 'who can we bash next' checklist.
I have always been interested in what the codetalkers had to say. Most of my posts are over on that thread. And YES I am very interested in what CAPS had to say, as well as what other posters (well, most other posters) have to say.
Is it a crime to read forum pages on which I am a member? Would it please you more if I logged in as "Guest" the next time I read SM?
We are all looking for Natalee in our own way. Everyone on this board wants closure for this family. Unfortunately a handful here have chosen to tear apart posters while playing armchair detective so much that posters are leaving this forum. Is that your intention?
Why are you so cruel to posters who dedicate time out of their lives to search for clues into her disappearance?
So I don't believe some fuzzy, grainy crab trap internet pictures. Is that a crime in your book? Hey, I don't quote your posts and bash them - I just merely scroll past the tomes of repetitive crab trap and Kyle/Caps bashing posts that have been on here month after month ad nauseum.
"...
Unless I missed something that a professional said, like Greta, on national tv said that Natalee's remains were definitely in that trap, then I will believe it, but until then, to me it is
just another theory
. Nobody knows.
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #666 on:
March 30, 2009, 01:56:14 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on March 30, 2009, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on March 30, 2009, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 30, 2009, 01:03:32 PM
MANSUR: Of course. We know he was involved from the beginning. And after the new wave of things (ph),
Mr. Herman, who saw Joran walking with his clothes all muddy. And then later he was saw him in the car with Paulus van der Sloot.
I don't know how to spell it...Jossy is so hard to hear on television. I would not have a clue if it started with an "h" or a "j" or what considering the language there. If I were trying for a phonetic spelling I would go with "Heilman". Don't hold me to it, I am most likely wrong
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg567204#msg567204
CAPS FIRST POSTS ON FRONT PAGE SAID BODY IN CEMETERY:
Quote from: klaasend on December 21, 2007, 04:52:52 PM
Posted on the front page of SM (this person appears to be posting from Aruba):
CapslockWizard wrote:
<snip>
The reason that no one can find her is that she must be among all the dead in the cemetery and who is going to search a cemetery for a body where there is already a lot of body in the place.
<snip>
he Logic is, nobody is going to look in a cemetery and if you are going to search a cemetery, it will be difficult to search without disturbing the graves. And another drawback is that you need permission of the families to open all the Kelders.
And this is my theory on this case and my logic thinking.
CapslockWizard
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2463.720
THEN CAPS says BODY NOT IN OCEAN:
the body was never in the occean..the holding place was the pond
. till other arrangements. which is what Shango was talking about "There was a game goining down" meaning "there was a funeral to be held". and "light the fires" means light the candles.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.160
« Reply #782 on: Today at 10:02:15 PM » CAPS
At the appropiate time all in the dark will come to light.
meeting at 6 pm on sunday, plan B ----- watch the news these days.
THE COVER UP CONTINUES ...
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/14/natalee-holloway-new-witness-in-aruba-ids-joran-van-der-sloot-and-prosecution-continues-the-cover-up/
Jossy:
Yes. Both Joran and Paul are implicated in the witnessess' declaration. That will come out in the second delivery soon.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.760
ORANJESTAD (AAN): In the month of June,
a cruel case took place in Sabana Basora
that shocked not only those who live in the neighborhood but also the whole community.
<snip>
Simply said, the families are none too happy with the investigations that are currently taking place in Aruba.
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_10_09_archive.html
GUESS WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CEMETERY IS LOCATED?:
Police is investigating the cause behind the dead of the ma
n Rene van
Heyningen whose body was found behind the
Government cemetery at
Sabana Basora
So
Sixto Vrolijk
and
Jose Giron
are on the MEP party along with vd straaten and Jeannette Richardson
so
they would be connected with Van der Straaten and Dolf Richardson's wife.
The witness says he saw paulus that night and Joran near the pond.
So, how would this get a conviction of Joran and/or his father?
Even if a shoe is found in that pond?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4448.msg648548#msg648548
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4743.140
Jose
Giron
Sabana Basora
20-C
Tel/Fax: 585 1030
http://tinyurl.com/bc4k7e
Silly me! I had been looking at Geerman as the name of the witness.
You are such a smart Frog!
Just kind of jumps right out at you, doesn't it? Phoenetically, anyway.
I agree ... especially when you consider Jossy's accent.
Is there a video of that Greta interview anywhere. Carp did an amazing job of compiling these videos of interviews related to the Natalee Holloway case. I do not have a clue where to look.
Janet
++++
Quote from: SS on December 05, 2008, 02:45:35 AM
Since Jossy gave the name on public television for millions to hear, would someone please tell us so we won't have to wait for the transcript? I don't get Greta.
Quote from: Lala'sMom on December 05, 2008, 02:47:44 AM
I don't know how to spell it...Jossy is so hard to hear on television. I would not have a clue if it started with an "h" or a "j" or what considering the language there. If I were trying for a phonetic spelling I would go with "Heilman". Don't hold me to it, I am most likely wrong.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg567204#msg567204
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #667 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:05:22 PM »
I thought Kyle Kingman was a professional extraordinarie on ROV images. Wouldn't his word be more reliable than Greta van Susteren? I just think he would know more what he was seeing than a news reporter.
JMO
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All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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March 30, 2009, 02:08:30 PM »
Janet - I have never seen a video of that show with Jossy giving the witness' name.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #669 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:09:38 PM »
Quote from: Anna on March 30, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
I thought Kyle Kingman was a professional extraordinarie on ROV images. Wouldn't his word be more reliable than Greta van Susteren? I just think he would know more what he was seeing than a news reporter.
JMO
As would the word and opinion of Tim Miller, in my mind.
Considering he searches for and finds the remains of missing people all the time.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #670 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:09:46 PM »
Quote from: Poochy on March 30, 2009, 01:49:15 PM
Well, well, well, so
POOCHY
has finally made it on your 'who can we bash next' checklist.
I have always been interested in what the codetalkers had to say. Most of my posts are over on that thread. And YES I am very interested in what CAPS had to say, as well as what other posters (well, most other posters) have to say.
Is it a crime to read forum pages on which I am a member? Would it please you more if I logged in as "Guest" the next time I read SM?
We are all looking for Natalee in our own way. Everyone on this board wants closure for this family. Unfortunately a handful here have chosen to tear apart posters while playing armchair detective so much that posters are leaving this forum. Is that your intention?
Why are you so cruel to posters who dedicate time out of their lives to search for clues into her disappearance?
So I don't believe some fuzzy, grainy crab trap internet pictures. Is that a crime in your book? Hey, I don't quote your posts and bash them - I just merely scroll past the tomes of repetitive crab trap and Kyle/Caps bashing posts that have been on here month after month ad nauseum.
"...
Unless I missed something that a professional said, like Greta, on national tv said that Natalee's remains were definitely in that trap, then I will believe it, but until then, to me it is
just another theory
. Nobody knows.
Poochy
I never once read where you upheld Kermit when that "cruel" Frog thread existed at GM ... a thread created because she dared to expose Kyle Kingman's own words that imply that John Silvetti participated with the Arubans in furthering the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing since for Natalee Holloway since May 30, 2005.
Actually ... I have never read where you have upheld any of the Monkeys who have been bashed and mocked in the Natalee Holloway threads at GM.
The Frog thread is gone from the site and ... many of the dispicable posts have been deleted. However ... never fear ... all has been saved for safe keeping on Tamikosmom's hard drive.
From this day forward ... if
one
Gold Monkey accuses any Scared Monkey of being cruel ... of hurting feelings ... I am ready to start cutting and pasting.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #671 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:12:32 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on March 30, 2009, 02:08:30 PM
Janet - I have never seen a video of that show with Jossy giving the witness' name.
Thanks Jen.
OK ... where is my hidey bag? Please return it in the next post.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #672 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:15:18 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2009, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Poochy on March 30, 2009, 01:49:15 PM
Well, well, well, so
POOCHY
has finally made it on your 'who can we bash next' checklist.
I have always been interested in what the codetalkers had to say. Most of my posts are over on that thread. And YES I am very interested in what CAPS had to say, as well as what other posters (well, most other posters) have to say.
Is it a crime to read forum pages on which I am a member? Would it please you more if I logged in as "Guest" the next time I read SM?
We are all looking for Natalee in our own way. Everyone on this board wants closure for this family. Unfortunately a handful here have chosen to tear apart posters while playing armchair detective so much that posters are leaving this forum. Is that your intention?
Why are you so cruel to posters who dedicate time out of their lives to search for clues into her disappearance?
So I don't believe some fuzzy, grainy crab trap internet pictures. Is that a crime in your book? Hey, I don't quote your posts and bash them - I just merely scroll past the tomes of repetitive crab trap and Kyle/Caps bashing posts that have been on here month after month ad nauseum.
"...
Unless I missed something that a professional said, like Greta, on national tv said that Natalee's remains were definitely in that trap, then I will believe it, but until then, to me it is
just another theory
. Nobody knows.
Poochy
I never once read where you upheld Kermit when that "cruel" Frog thread existed at GM ... a thread created because she dared to expose Kyle Kingman's own words that imply that John Silvetti participated with the Arubans in furthering the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing since for Natalee Holloway since May 30, 2005.
Actually ... I have never read where you have upheld any of the Monkeys who have been bashed and mocked in the Natalee Holloway threads at GM.
The Frog thread is gone from the site and ... many of the dispicable posts have been deleted. However ... never fear ... all has been saved for safe keeping on Tamikosmom's hard drive.
From this day forward ... if
one
Gold Monkey accuses any Scared Monkey of being cruel ... of hurting feelings ... I am ready to start cutting and pasting.
Janet
Poochy..Do you believe CapsLockWizard.Yes or No..Very simple!TIA
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #673 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:21:46 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
Still waiting on anyone's reason's to continue to support the CapsLockWizard!
KTF
Me has an open mind...and nothing would surprise me anymore.
this monkey is still absorbing info.
Prayers for Nat.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #674 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:24:48 PM »
Quote from: friend of monkeys on March 30, 2009, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
Still waiting on anyone's reason's to continue to support the CapsLockWizard!
KTF
Me has an open mind...and nothing would surprise me anymore.
this monkey is still absorbing info.
Prayers for Nat.
In my opinion,there is nothing to absorb from CapsLockWizard FOM...He's been nothing but a disinformation specialist and has done much harm to JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY...Again..JMOO
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #675 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:24:50 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on March 30, 2009, 02:09:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on March 30, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
I thought Kyle Kingman was a professional extraordinarie on ROV images. Wouldn't his word be more reliable than Greta van Susteren? I just think he would know more what he was seeing than a news reporter.
JMO
As would the word and opinion of Tim Miller, in my mind.
Considering he searches for and finds the remains of missing people all the time.
When his field of expertise is considered ... I have a lot more faith in Kyle Kingsman analysis of ROV images than Tim Miller's words.
Kyle Kingsman did claim that he had "convinced" Tim Miller that Natalee Holloway's remains could be in the trap.
Janet
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KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS
Kyle Kingsman:
The sediment in this case is fine-grained sand which is preferencially deposited to make a body form. For sand to preferentially deposit, there needs to be a lower energy state where the sand collects and stays. This can be achieved either with a shallow depression creating accomodation space and lower potential energy (not the case) or by creating small eddy currents due to surface friction. The sediment around the door area is being eroded or removed by currents. Where the body was, it is being deposited. Basically, the fabrics created enough resistence for sediment to preferentially collect on it. Further, bacterial staining due to decaying organics acts as a mild cementing agent. Combined, you will have sediment erosion around the body form and deposition on the body form which collects through time. In this case, possibly 2 1/2 years.
Kyle Kingman:
I
know Tim believed me and was convinced 100% which is why he went and told Dave that we found Natalee on Dec 29th
. John stood back and waited and worked with the Aruban Polis to arrange the next dive -Dec 30th's which was the visual-only dive. John told me then he didn't want to hear me ever mention the trap again. Of course this didn't set well with me
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #676 on:
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: friend of monkeys on March 30, 2009, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
Still waiting on anyone's reason's to continue to support the CapsLockWizard!
KTF
Me has an open mind...and nothing would surprise me anymore.
this monkey is still absorbing info.
Prayers for Nat.
In my opinion,there is nothing to absorb from CapsLockWizard FOM...He's been nothing but a disinformation specialist and has done much harm to JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY...Again..JMOO
YES!! LOGIC DICTATES!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #677 on:
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 01:18:13 PM
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Keepthefaith
Unless his/her position has changed ... I do believe that adoronron said it all in the following post.
Janet
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
« Reply #143 on: December 31, 2008, 05:52:55 PM »
Mum,
I pop on every few days to catch up. I used to get involved with the discussions but for some time now, it seems to me, not much headway is being made. And I think the reason is the diversions that occur. It's as if someone or several people are watching SM and every so often they determine SM is on to something and they implement a diversion. Whoever he, she, or they are, they must be very satisfied with their most recent endeavor what with all the terse posts of late among the SMer's.
I agree with your comment "As far as I can see this cage business is the diversion".
My own opinion is; No body no case + incinerator operator suicide = no body. JMO
Ado
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4328.msg605405#msg605405
Again..No answer...
Keepthefaith,
I don't have time to follow along as much as I used. I visit just a few times a week and read a few pages.
I don't have anything to add.
Is there some particular point you want my opinion on?
Ado
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #678 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:35:31 PM »
Quote from: adoronron on March 30, 2009, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 01:18:13 PM
Keepthefaith, Kermit, Tamikosmom, Magnolia, ksl,
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
« Reply #143 on: December 31, 2008, 05:52:55 PM »
Mum,
I pop on every few days to catch up. I used to get involved with the discussions but for some time now, it seems to me, not much headway is being made. And I think the reason is the diversions that occur. It's as if someone or several people are watching SM and every so often they determine SM is on to something and they implement a diversion. Whoever he, she, or they are, they must be very satisfied with their most recent endeavor what with all the terse posts of late among the SMer's.
I agree with your comment "As far as I can see this cage business is the diversion".
My own opinion is; No body no case + incinerator operator suicide = no body. JMO
Ado
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4328.msg605405#msg605405
Again..No answer...
Keepthefaith,
I don't have time to follow along as much as I used. I visit just a few times a week and read a few pages.
I don't have anything to add.
Is there some particular point you want my opinion on?
Ado
What do you believe to be diversions,as well as why?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #812 3/27/09 -
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Reply #679 on:
March 30, 2009, 02:42:58 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on March 30, 2009, 12:51:48 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 30, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
Still waiting on anyone's reason's to continue to support the CapsLockWizard!
So Sixto Vrolijk is on the MEP party along with vd straaten and Jeannette Richardson
so
they would be connected with Van der Straaten and Dolf Richardson's wife.
The witness says he saw paulus that night and Joran near the pond.
So, how would this get a conviction of Joran and/or his father?
Even if a shoe is found in that pond?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4448.msg648548#msg648548
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4743.140
MIEMBRO DI COMISION:
1. Dunador di trabao - Ebby Arends – presidente di CBB
Lisette Malmberg – suplente
2.Sindicato:
Jose Giron
Sixto Vrolijk
– suplente
3. Enseñanza: Lydia Emerencia – vice presidente
Angelo Brete – suplente
4.Clero: Pader J. v/d Lee
Pader S. Tomasik – suplente
5. Cuerpo Policial:
Jeannette Richardson
Jan v/d Straten – suplente
6. Liaison cu Prensa Nilka Franca
7. Secretario: Lorraine de Souza
http://www.arubachamber.com/ComisionBonBoluntad.htm
Jeannette Richardson and Jan van der Straaten on the same Commission.
Jeannette Richardson, wife of Dolf Richardson.
Along with MEP Party members: Sixto Vrolkjk and Jose Giron.
* Dolf Richardson is the lead investigator
* Dolf Richardson was on the Persistence and kept telling them to search further out.
* Dolf Richardson is the one that was in charge of the evidence from the trap.
To:
Department of Civil Aviation
Mr. A. Vrolijk
Sabana Berde 73-B
http://tinyurl.com/cqr3us
Vrolijk says
that the radar currently at the airport, was one of the most modern radars in the Caribbean ten years ago. The installation does no longer work due to lack of necessary maintenance.
http://tinyurl.com/d3zwn5
Mr. A. Vrolijk
and Mr. A. Riley
http://www.arubachamber.com/Annual_Business_Meeting/2007/Webpage-2007-p2.htm
Morgan Freeman Slated To Play Mr. A. Vrolijk In The Upcoming Movie ........
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