SANDRA CANTU, 8, missing since 3/27/09 Tracy, CA #1 3/28/09-4/09/09

[no rose colored glasses]

I hope that little Sandra did not suffer..makes me so sad to see her on that youtube and the last video of her where she is so carefree and skipping along....God I hate this....it is so unfair...
something needs to be changed and done to child murderers by our legal system...they need to be scared to do something this awful to a little child...

I agree, but I think the urge is much stronger then the fear of severe punishment.

must be...therefore, we need to cut off their nut sacks..<<<<sorry if too blunt.....and then throw their asses in jail, never to see the light of day...I have no sympathy for these paedos....I don't care if they were abused themselves and that is why they do that...there are a lot of people who were abused and they don't do to a child what was done to them...they make their own choices in life....if they choose to abuse a child, then they must pay the ultimate price,with their own life being over as far as I am concerned...And, they don't have to kill these kids...their urges turn them into murderers as well as abusers I guess...Sick f@ck$...

I completely agree.

[Rob]

I hope that little Sandra did not suffer..makes me so sad to see her on that youtube and the last video of her where she is so carefree and skipping along....God I hate this....it is so unfair...
something needs to be changed and done to child murderers by our legal system...they need to be scared to do something this awful to a little child...

I agree, but I think the urge is much stronger then the fear of severe punishment.

must be...therefore, we need to cut off their nut sacks..<<<<sorry if too blunt.....and then throw their asses in jail, never to see the light of day...I have no sympathy for these paedos....I don't care if they were abused themselves and that is why they do that...there are a lot of people who were abused and they don't do to a child what was done to them...they make their own choices in life....if they choose to abuse a child, then they must pay the ultimate price,with their own life being over as far as I am concerned...And, they don't have to kill these kids...their urges turn them into murderers as well as abusers I guess...Sick f@ck$...

I'm for immediate execution after conviction with DNA confirmation. No appeal.

[Searching]

I hope that little Sandra did not suffer..makes me so sad to see her on that youtube and the last video of her where she is so carefree and skipping along....God I hate this....it is so unfair...
something needs to be changed and done to child murderers by our legal system...they need to be scared to do something this awful to a little child...

I agree, but I think the urge is much stronger then the fear of severe punishment.

must be...therefore, we need to cut off their nut sacks..<<<<sorry if too blunt.....and then throw their asses in jail, never to see the light of day...I have no sympathy for these paedos....I don't care if they were abused themselves and that is why they do that...there are a lot of people who were abused and they don't do to a child what was done to them...they make their own choices in life....if they choose to abuse a child, then they must pay the ultimate price,with their own life being over as far as I am concerned...And, they don't have to kill these kids...their urges turn them into murderers as well as abusers I guess...Sick f@ck$...

Cut off?? how bout cut open,fill with a mixture of vinegar,rock salt and alcohol and stitch shut??

[flossy]

I'm surprised they can't confirm or deny the report of the rummage sale.  I'd think they would have established that by now, but maybe he's just not offering that info to the press. 

I'm glad they're playing it safe on so many fronts, though.

[cookie]

Searching...^^^^^  that works for me!!

Rob, I agree...immediate execution ....no appeals...
they don't give their victims appeals, why should we give them any consideration?

[Kimmy53]

I hope that little Sandra did not suffer..makes me so sad to see her on that youtube and the last video of her where she is so carefree and skipping along....God I hate this....it is so unfair...
something needs to be changed and done to child murderers by our legal system...they need to be scared to do something this awful to a little child...

I agree, but I think the urge is much stronger then the fear of severe punishment.

must be...therefore, we need to cut off their nut sacks..<<<<sorry if too blunt.....and then throw their asses in jail, never to see the light of day...I have no sympathy for these paedos....I don't care if they were abused themselves and that is why they do that...there are a lot of people who were abused and they don't do to a child what was done to them...they make their own choices in life....if they choose to abuse a child, then they must pay the ultimate price,with their own life being over as far as I am concerned...And, they don't have to kill these kids...their urges turn them into murderers as well as abusers I guess...Sick f@ck$...

I'm for immediate execution after conviction with DNA confirmation. No appeal.

I vote for your idea Rob!  But, can we cut off their nut sacks just for the hell of it?

[Kimmy53]

Was there anything new at the press conference?  I am at work, and don't have audio - and I can't read lips!!!!

[no rose colored glasses]

I have some photos I snagged from umm somewhere.. hehe .. I just do no know how to post them...
missed the presser,was on the phone taking care of arrangements..any news?

I don't know how to post pics either, but would like to see them. Hope you are taking care of yourself.

[Tracygirl]

Link to a story about the man arrested for having child porn. I can't find the Tracy Press article that says the men were wearing hoods. It was a little more discriptive, but maybe that is a good thing

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=54988

Thanks, OMG I just have this horrible sick feeling about what Sandra went through. Also I found this and maybe someone knows if this woman is a daughter or granddaughter of the pastor.  KTVU News reported a brown suv taken .... Melissa Huckaby, her other name is Melissa Lawless.

Veromi search

    LAWLESS, MELISSA CHANTEL (Age 27)

Associated names:

 HUCKABY, MELISSA
   Available(5)    Available    LA HABRA, CA
TRACY, CA
CYPRESS, CA
WHITTIER, CA    Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JUDY A (Age 49)
LAWLESS, BRIAN L (Age 47)
LAWLESS, ADAM B (Age 23)
HUCKABY, JOHN
LAWLESS, CONNIE
LAWLESS, CLIFFORD L
LAWLESS, LANE BRIAN
LAWLESS, CALEB J (Age 21)
LAWLESS, JULIANNE

who is she married too?

[no rose colored glasses]

Was there anything new at the press conference?  I am at work, and don't have audio - and I can't read lips!!!!

I missed part of it, but nothing really new, but I'm glad that LE is being carefull with what they are saying.

[Kimmy53]

Was there anything new at the press conference?  I am at work, and don't have audio - and I can't read lips!!!!

I missed part of it, but nothing really new, but I'm glad that LE is being carefull with what they are saying.

Thank you no rose.  I think LE are doing well keeping info under wraps for now.  I sure would like to know, but I want Sandra's killer convicted much worse.

[pink angel]

• focusing on NO SPECIFIC person at this time.
• looking to identify killer or killers
• has heard SPECULATION about a stolen suitcase, but they have NO REPORT of stolen luggage.
• can't reveal how luggage got to the pond.
• Tracy Police have a liason with the family all day (not evening)
• No plans at this time for any Search Warrants today.
• Police are NOT done interviewing anyone
• All search warrants previously issued are sealed, any new search warrants will be sealed.

Sheneman clarified that he has used both "people" and "person" when referring to whoever did this and it does not indicate whether they think it was one or more.

[Searching]

I have some photos I snagged from umm somewhere.. hehe .. I just do no know how to post them...
missed the presser,was on the phone taking care of arrangements..any news?

I don't know how to post pics either, but would like to see them. Hope you are taking care of yourself.

I finally managed to eat last night and have gotten a couple hours sleep. Hoping to have his service on Monday,but depends on the death certificate and cremation. There was a viewing this a.m for family who was out of state. Thank you for thinking of me and again for the kind words.They really have helped. He was a great Dad and a Great Grandfather so I am sure he is up there taking care of Caylee and Sandra as well as any other children that need him.

[Edward]

cbs13 this morning reported that Wohler's house was searched again (last night) as well. So Wohler's name comes back again, and his place is searched again. This just must be some kind of child porn ring, what else could this all be about, I would like other thoughts, because I just can't come up with anything else. 

You know what sticks in my mind. When the first man was arrested for having child porn on his computer and sharing it , a brief description of the movie was given. apparently it showed men wearing hoods group raping a little girl. My question was, who was the little girl and if they ever found her. Never heard, however if this is the type of movie going around Tracy, then maybe it would make sense to make another one?

Does this rake in big money for the makers of this type of film? Are they shared free or do they pay to watch?

I would have reported items missing from my car even if it was intended for a rummage sale. I wonder who it belonged to and at what time. I think that is what I would like to know.

This is the type of movie was mentioned in the Natalee Holloway case as possibly being made by a group of elite idiots that reside on the rock called Aruba.
 Apparently this is world wide behavior. Sick stuff. But it appears to be some kind of organized group. Groups like this that wear medieval cloth and hoods gather for rituals relative to satanist beliefs and one such group gathers every year very close to where Polly Klass was taken.. and very rich and well known and powerful people go to that event.. Every year.
Not saying they attack children but that they wear and practice hooded rituals.. They say They simulate a human sacrifice at the above mentioned event.. I have seen a video of this.. It is said to be an act.
As for children who have been attacked...
I have never seen a victim of a child porn ring interviewed and you would think once they become an adult WE would be hearing from one or more.. People do not stay little children forever.. So I question these types of reports because we the public have no knowledge of this behavior as being real. If authorities do not want these people interviewed, they are not helping all of us to warn our kids..
The mother of Johnny Gosh gives us a frightening glimpse into this world with her photos of her sons abduction on her web site and she is like one soldier fighting alone in the world looking for answers in her sons disappearance.. She claims he is victim of a world wide child porn ring, He has not been found.. The photos are hair raising and hooded characters are in them. This is my only indicator that this behavior does in fact exist.

 Tracygirl I have 10 years of searching for lost people and usually stop once the person is found, my first search was for a little girl named Christina Williams in my area and although she was found the murderer has never been found, So in a case like this.. I have to stay with it... You people are right in my back yard and this is a terrible situation. I am positive that the F.B.I. and local LE will find this culprit.
 Amber Dubois is also a victim of some sort in Escandido, although I am not sure what kind of victim she is.. We look for a lot of people and focus in the area of our nation in which I live.
This one has been found in a strange way in my opinion, But I am positive LE will not rest until this culprit is brought to justice. They have a good handle on the situation, You have some very good police working this case.
jmho

[cookie]

I have some photos I snagged from umm somewhere.. hehe .. I just do no know how to post them...
missed the presser,was on the phone taking care of arrangements..any news?

I don't know how to post pics either, but would like to see them. Hope you are taking care of yourself.

I finally managed to eat last night and have gotten a couple hours sleep. Hoping to have his service on Monday,but depends on the death certificate and cremation. There was a viewing this a.m for family who was out of state. Thank you for thinking of me and again for the kind words.They really have helped. He was a great Dad and a Great Grandfather so I am sure he is up there taking care of Caylee and Sandra as well as any other children that need him.

that is what I thought Searching...bless his heart for being a good dad and grand father....he will be missed...

[no rose colored glasses]

• focusing on NO SPECIFIC person at this time.
• looking to identify killer or killers
• has heard SPECULATION about a stolen suitcase, but they have NO REPORT of stolen luggage.
• can't reveal how luggage got to the pond.
• Tracy Police have a liason with the family all day (not evening)
• No plans at this time for any Search Warrants today.
• Police are NOT done interviewing anyone
• All search warrants previously issued are sealed, any new search warrants will be sealed.

Sheneman clarified that he has used both "people" and "person" when referring to whoever did this and it does not indicate whether they think it was one or more.

Thanks Pink Angel 

[Anna]

Prayers for comfort for Searching.

[Tracygirl]

cbs13 this morning reported that Wohler's house was searched again (last night) as well. So Wohler's name comes back again, and his place is searched again. This just must be some kind of child porn ring, what else could this all be about, I would like other thoughts, because I just can't come up with anything else. 

You know what sticks in my mind. When the first man was arrested for having child porn on his computer and sharing it , a brief description of the movie was given. apparently it showed men wearing hoods group raping a little girl. My question was, who was the little girl and if they ever found her. Never heard, however if this is the type of movie going around Tracy, then maybe it would make sense to make another one?

Does this rake in big money for the makers of this type of film? Are they shared free or do they pay to watch?

I would have reported items missing from my car even if it was intended for a rummage sale. I wonder who it belonged to and at what time. I think that is what I would like to know.

This is the type of movie was mentioned in the Natalee Holloway case as possibly being made by a group of elite idiots that reside on the rock called Aruba.
 Apparently this is world wide behavior. Sick stuff. But it appears to be some kind of organized group. Groups like this that wear medieval cloth and hoods gather for rituals relative to satanist beliefs and one such group gathers every year very close to where Polly Klass was taken.. and very rich and well known and powerful people go to that event.. Every year.
Not saying they attack children but that they wear and practice hooded rituals.. They say They simulate a human sacrifice at the above mentioned event.. I have seen a video of this.. It is said to be an act.
As for children who have been attacked...
I have never seen a victim of a child porn ring interviewed and you would think once they become an adult WE would be hearing from one or more.. People do not stay little children forever.. So I question these types of reports because we the public have no knowledge of this behavior as being real. If authorities do not want these people interviewed, they are not helping all of us to warn our kids..
The mother of Johnny Gosh gives us a frightening glimpse into this world with her photos of her sons abduction on her web site and she is like one soldier fighting alone in the world looking for answers in her sons disappearance.. She claims he is victim of a world wide child porn ring, He has not been found.. The photos are hair raising and hooded characters are in them. This is my only indicator that this behavior does in fact exist.

 Tracygirl I have 10 years of searching for lost people and usually stop once the person is found, my first search was for a little girl named Christina Williams in my area and although she was found the murderer has never been found, So in a case like this.. I have to stay with it... You people are right in my back yard and this is a terrible situation. I am positive that the F.B.I. and local LE will find this culprit.
 Amber Dubois is also a victim of some sort in Escandido, although I am not sure what kind of victim she is.. We look for a lot of people and focus in the area of our nation in which I live.
This one has been found in a strange way in my opinion, But I am positive LE will not rest until this culprit is brought to justice. They have a good handle on the situation, You have some very good police working this case.
jmho

OMG I did  a search and saw the pictures, oh dear god that poor boy.....I cannot breath right now.

[cookie]

Fox news hasn't had anything that I have heard...were supposed to but they are talking about the ship that was hijacked by pirates...the blurb that Fox did say is that they would be talking about the latest results from her autopsy....did not I assume? were reporting that the cause of death....etc...

[Searching]

trying to post photos...If already seen them,let me know