SANDRA CANTU, 8, missing since 3/27/09 Tracy, CA #1 3/28/09-4/09/09

[no rose colored glasses]

Edward I appreciate your hard work and insight, thank-you.

[Anna]

I don't know how I missed the presser.  Must have been a real quickie!


Child porn rings sometimes sell their movies over the internet.  Also photos.  For lots of money.  This must be what has been tagged, internet traffic.

And sometimes they "sell" them for trade of other equal vids or photos.  So it can be for money or it can be to get more underage porn.

But a man here recently went to jail for six years for having underage porn.  So why are these people still free?  I don't understand.  Perhaps arresting sixty people is too much for this small LE on top of this tragedy with Sandra.  But I do hope they are taking name for the kicking later to happen.

And it is my opinion from following these tragedies for a few years now that when they are slow and methodical and doing it by the book, dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" and appear in no hurry whatsoever, well, that usually means they have their man.  Just slowly watching and preparing and doing it right.  This perp may well get the death penalty for this crime and they don't want anything to come up on appeal because of some flub they did.

They are being slow but sure.  I am encouraged for justice in this case.

It's not much I know.  But after the child is dead, it is about all that is left to have for her and her family.  No, it doesn't bring her back but it does say her life was very important and no one had this right and that is worth something even if it won't bring her back. 

I hope they are going slowly because they are preparing a death penalty case.  I think it would qualify because of her young age.  And they have their man in mind or they would be scurrying about more and would be more frantic, etc.  They are much too calm not to know.

JMO.

[no rose colored glasses]

Tracygirl I also went to look up info on Johnny, I'm speechless. That poor family, how do they survive?

[no rose colored glasses]

I don't know how I missed the presser.  Must have been a real quickie!


Child porn rings sometimes sell their movies over the internet.  Also photos.  For lots of money.  This must be what has been tagged, internet traffic.

And sometimes they "sell" them for trade of other equal vids or photos.  So it can be for money or it can be to get more underage porn.

But a man here recently went to jail for six years for having underage porn.  So why are these people still free?  I don't understand.  Perhaps arresting sixty people is too much for this small LE on top of this tragedy with Sandra.  But I do hope they are taking name for the kicking later to happen.

And it is my opinion from following these tragedies for a few years now that when they are slow and methodical and doing it by the book, dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" and appear in no hurry whatsoever, well, that usually means they have their man.  Just slowly watching and preparing and doing it right.  This perp may well get the death penalty for this crime and they don't want anything to come up on appeal because of some flub they did.

They are being slow but sure.  I am encouraged for justice in this case.

It's not much I know.  But after the child is dead, it is about all that is left to have for her and her family.  No, it doesn't bring her back but it does say her life was very important and no one had this right and that is worth something even if it won't bring her back. 

I hope they are going slowly because they are preparing a death penalty case.  I think it would qualify because of her young age.  And they have their man in mind or they would be scurrying about more and would be more frantic, etc.  They are much too calm not to know.

JMO.

I think you are right, I also believe there will be justice.

[Searching]

Prayers for comfort for Searching.

Thank you Anna.. good to see you..

[Searching]

pic..

[pink angel]

Detectives trying to unravel a murder mystery that left a little girl dead in a suitcase at the bottom of a pond said they haven't yet found the weapon used to kill the 8-year-old and can't say for sure where the luggage came from.

Tracy Police Sgt. Tony Sheneman told reporters Wednesday that investigators haven't recovered the instrument used to murder Sandra Cantu, but said her death is being classified as a homicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513244,00.html

[Searching]

photo.

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photo. This is the pond/bag....

[Tracygirl]

Tracygirl I also went to look up info on Johnny, I'm speechless. That poor family, how do they survive?

I have no idea, I would suppose the mom just has such a determination to someday see her child again.

[Searching]

was not sure if you monkeys had already seen those since I have been away..so snagged them when I seen them.

[no rose colored glasses]

Detectives trying to unravel a murder mystery that left a little girl dead in a suitcase at the bottom of a pond said they haven't yet found the weapon used to kill the 8-year-old and can't say for sure where the luggage came from.

Tracy Police Sgt. Tony Sheneman told reporters Wednesday that investigators haven't recovered the instrument used to murder Sandra Cantu, but said her death is being classified as a homicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513244,00.html

Thanks, they are looking for a weapon or instrument, very interesting. In one of the articles, can't remember which one, they took a bamboo shade from one of the mobile homes, maybe the cord from that was missing?

[no rose colored glasses]

was not sure if you monkeys had already seen those since I have been away..so snagged them when I seen them.

Thanks Searching 

[A's Fever]

cbs13 this morning reported that Wohler's house was searched again (last night) as well. So Wohler's name comes back again, and his place is searched again. This just must be some kind of child porn ring, what else could this all be about, I would like other thoughts, because I just can't come up with anything else. 

You know what sticks in my mind. When the first man was arrested for having child porn on his computer and sharing it , a brief description of the movie was given. apparently it showed men wearing hoods group raping a little girl. My question was, who was the little girl and if they ever found her. Never heard, however if this is the type of movie going around Tracy, then maybe it would make sense to make another one?

Does this rake in big money for the makers of this type of film? Are they shared free or do they pay to watch?

I would have reported items missing from my car even if it was intended for a rummage sale. I wonder who it belonged to and at what time. I think that is what I would like to know.

This is the type of movie was mentioned in the Natalee Holloway case as possibly being made by a group of elite idiots that reside on the rock called Aruba.
 Apparently this is world wide behavior. Sick stuff. But it appears to be some kind of organized group. Groups like this that wear medieval cloth and hoods gather for rituals relative to satanist beliefs and one such group gathers every year very close to where Polly Klass was taken.. and very rich and well known and powerful people go to that event.. Every year.
Not saying they attack children but that they wear and practice hooded rituals.. They say They simulate a human sacrifice at the above mentioned event.. I have seen a video of this.. It is said to be an act.
As for children who have been attacked...
I have never seen a victim of a child porn ring interviewed and you would think once they become an adult WE would be hearing from one or more.. People do not stay little children forever.. So I question these types of reports because we the public have no knowledge of this behavior as being real. If authorities do not want these people interviewed, they are not helping all of us to warn our kids..
The mother of Johnny Gosh gives us a frightening glimpse into this world with her photos of her sons abduction on her web site and she is like one soldier fighting alone in the world looking for answers in her sons disappearance.. She claims he is victim of a world wide child porn ring, He has not been found.. The photos are hair raising and hooded characters are in them. This is my only indicator that this behavior does in fact exist.

 Tracygirl I have 10 years of searching for lost people and usually stop once the person is found, my first search was for a little girl named Christina Williams in my area and although she was found the murderer has never been found, So in a case like this.. I have to stay with it... You people are right in my back yard and this is a terrible situation. I am positive that the F.B.I. and local LE will find this culprit.
 Amber Dubois is also a victim of some sort in Escandido, although I am not sure what kind of victim she is.. We look for a lot of people and focus in the area of our nation in which I live.
This one has been found in a strange way in my opinion, But I am positive LE will not rest until this culprit is brought to justice. They have a good handle on the situation, You have some very good police working this case.
jmho

Edward I still remember the Christina Williams case, if you are referring to the girl, who disappeared while walking her dog by Fort Ord.  Her remains were found but the case was never solved IIRC.  There are a number of cases here in Nor Cal that remain unsolved.  Michaela Garecht, Ilene Mishelhoff, Jenny Lee (or Lin) all come to mind . . .

[Searching]

was not sure if you monkeys had already seen those since I have been away..so snagged them when I seen them.

Thanks Searching 

You are welcome. Sad seeing that bag though. Poor baby girl.

[Tracygirl]

Detectives trying to unravel a murder mystery that left a little girl dead in a suitcase at the bottom of a pond said they haven't yet found the weapon used to kill the 8-year-old and can't say for sure where the luggage came from.

Tracy Police Sgt. Tony Sheneman told reporters Wednesday that investigators haven't recovered the instrument used to murder Sandra Cantu, but said her death is being classified as a homicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513244,00.html

Thanks, they are looking for a weapon or instrument, very interesting. In one of the articles, can't remember which one, they took a bamboo shade from one of the mobile homes, maybe the cord from that was missing?

http://www.kcra.com/news/19121818/detail.html#

The story talks about the blinds being taken from a home in the MHP.

[Edward]

You have a good memory A's
Ileane's parents had a write up not so long ago in the S.F. Chronicle ..another sad case..

There are many across the nation who have not been found..

As we write Gloria is back in the Mohave desert looking for her daughter April Beth Pitzer
she has some professional cave searchers with her and there has been some progress in her case in recent weeks.. Holding my breath that April will be found soon.
Never the less Gloria has stood up as a great help and assistance to other families of the missing. I think we will see more of Gloria in the future doing Gods work of help and support.

I know it sounds odd.. But Sandra's parents know.. That in itself is a good thing. As not knowing eats at a families soul.

[A's Fever]

You have a good memory A's
Ileane's parents had a write up not so long ago in the S.F. Chronicle ..another sad case..

There are many across the nation who have not been found..

As we write Gloria is back in the Mohave desert looking for her daughter April Beth Pitzer
she has some professional cave searchers with her and there has been some progress in her case in recent weeks.. Holding my breath that April will be found soon.
Never the less Gloria has stood up as a great help and assistance to other families of the missing. I think we will see more of Gloria in the future doing Gods work of help and support.

I know it sounds odd.. But Sandra's parents know.. That in itself is a good thing. As not knowing eats at a families soul.

I agree, they need to know, and they need to bury.

[Tracygirl]

cbs13 this morning reported that Wohler's house was searched again (last night) as well. So Wohler's name comes back again, and his place is searched again. This just must be some kind of child porn ring, what else could this all be about, I would like other thoughts, because I just can't come up with anything else. 

You know what sticks in my mind. When the first man was arrested for having child porn on his computer and sharing it , a brief description of the movie was given. apparently it showed men wearing hoods group raping a little girl. My question was, who was the little girl and if they ever found her. Never heard, however if this is the type of movie going around Tracy, then maybe it would make sense to make another one?

Does this rake in big money for the makers of this type of film? Are they shared free or do they pay to watch?

I would have reported items missing from my car even if it was intended for a rummage sale. I wonder who it belonged to and at what time. I think that is what I would like to know.

This is the type of movie was mentioned in the Natalee Holloway case as possibly being made by a group of elite idiots that reside on the rock called Aruba.
 Apparently this is world wide behavior. Sick stuff. But it appears to be some kind of organized group. Groups like this that wear medieval cloth and hoods gather for rituals relative to satanist beliefs and one such group gathers every year very close to where Polly Klass was taken.. and very rich and well known and powerful people go to that event.. Every year.
Not saying they attack children but that they wear and practice hooded rituals.. They say They simulate a human sacrifice at the above mentioned event.. I have seen a video of this.. It is said to be an act.
As for children who have been attacked...
I have never seen a victim of a child porn ring interviewed and you would think once they become an adult WE would be hearing from one or more.. People do not stay little children forever.. So I question these types of reports because we the public have no knowledge of this behavior as being real. If authorities do not want these people interviewed, they are not helping all of us to warn our kids..
The mother of Johnny Gosh gives us a frightening glimpse into this world with her photos of her sons abduction on her web site and she is like one soldier fighting alone in the world looking for answers in her sons disappearance.. She claims he is victim of a world wide child porn ring, He has not been found.. The photos are hair raising and hooded characters are in them. This is my only indicator that this behavior does in fact exist.

 Tracygirl I have 10 years of searching for lost people and usually stop once the person is found, my first search was for a little girl named Christina Williams in my area and although she was found the murderer has never been found, So in a case like this.. I have to stay with it... You people are right in my back yard and this is a terrible situation. I am positive that the F.B.I. and local LE will find this culprit.
 Amber Dubois is also a victim of some sort in Escandido, although I am not sure what kind of victim she is.. We look for a lot of people and focus in the area of our nation in which I live.
This one has been found in a strange way in my opinion, But I am positive LE will not rest until this culprit is brought to justice. They have a good handle on the situation, You have some very good police working this case.
jmho

Edward I still remember the Christina Williams case, if you are referring to the girl, who disappeared while walking her dog by Fort Ord.  Her remains were found but the case was never solved IIRC.  There are a number of cases here in Nor Cal that remain unsolved.  Michaela Garecht, Ilene Mishelhoff, Jenny Lee (or Lin) all come to mind . . .

I hadn't heard of either of the girls mentioned, poor things.... I am from southern california orignially. I think the 3 cases which disturbed me the most had been solved. Anthony Martinez, Denise Hubert, Samantha Runnion  (sp?)

[klaasend]

Detectives trying to unravel a murder mystery that left a little girl dead in a suitcase at the bottom of a pond said they haven't yet found the weapon used to kill the 8-year-old and can't say for sure where the luggage came from.

Tracy Police Sgt. Tony Sheneman told reporters Wednesday that investigators haven't recovered the instrument used to murder Sandra Cantu, but said her death is being classified as a homicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513244,00.html

Thanks, they are looking for a weapon or instrument, very interesting. In one of the articles, can't remember which one, they took a bamboo shade from one of the mobile homes, maybe the cord from that was missing?

http://www.kcra.com/news/19121818/detail.html#

The story talks about the blinds being taken from a home in the MHP.

Blinds taken in back of FBI vehicle: