Natalee Case Discussion #813 3/31/09 - 4/5/09

[Kermit]

proof the opposite ! tonight !

Are you gonna share shark photos next?

[Magnolia]

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* Iris
* Sam
* Debbie

all showed up with one intent

Keep the focus off the trap/cage just like CAPS did.

Don't look into John Silvetii or Louis Schafer
Don't believe the words of Kyle Kingman
and his room mate have deceived not only us, but the family.
It cost Dave Holloway a lot of money to send Fred Golba and Rhino to Aruba.

Who sent him?
Why are these people more interested in giving out personal information rather then digging into who sent Caps and why?

You can  Keep your  focus on the trap

this is my research 

Unfortunately for you, you have no credibility anymore.
Nor do you have a degree in geophysics.
Nor do you have any balls as I recall.

proof the opposite ! tonight !

Whoa, Johan.
You have absolutely no right to come here and ask anyone to "proof" anything.

Your word isn't worth a dime here.

[Rob]

proof the opposite ! tonight !

proof YOUR negative in REVERSE? 

[jen3560]

Oh hey I get it!!

Now their game is to discredit Kyle's dimensions and measurements?

Okie doke.

[johan555]

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* Iris
* Sam
* Debbie

all showed up with one intent

Keep the focus off the trap/cage just like CAPS did.

Don't look into John Silvetii or Louis Schafer
Don't believe the words of Kyle Kingman
and his room mate have deceived not only us, but the family.
It cost Dave Holloway a lot of money to send Fred Golba and Rhino to Aruba.

Who sent him?
Why are these people more interested in giving out personal information rather then digging into who sent Caps and why?

You can  Keep your  focus on the trap

this is my research 

Unfortunately for you, you have no credibility anymore.
Nor do you have a degree in geophysics.
Nor do you have any balls as I recall.

proof the opposite ! tonight !

Whoa, Johan.
You have absolutely no right to come here and ask anyone to "proof" anything.

Your word isn't worth a dime here.

facts do not lie 

[Rob]

Posted by Lifesong:

Crazy has been on the phone.

06/04/2008
Former SM poster Hotshot: 
June 04, 2008, 12:47:57 AM:  “CAPS.......sign onto messenger please.  Need to talk.  I made the calls.”


 

I'm sure Carolina/Hotshot will come up with new get kermit photos now.

r00bagoogle translation - I have spoken to Gerold Dompig and all systems go for countdown. 

[Tamikosmom]

Johan ... are you mocking Kyle Kingman's qualifications in his field of expertise.

Janet

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oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #739 3/3 -
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2008, 06:35:58 PM »

The trap was symmetrical in width and length at approximately 7.5 ft. It was approximately 2.25-2.5 ft high.  You're correct about the ROV video lens distorting perspective due to the paralax view lens. 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2668.msg360072#msg360072


KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman:  ... I found the trap on 1:45am Christmas morning. I got the OK to begin our ROV dive series for the 29th, so I made it our first dive. We got visual of the fish trap and that it was suspicious. Basically, the fish trap door was open and there appeared to be a skull and torso-shape in sand on the door inside the trap Reviewing the 29-Dec video I noticed the torso shape in sand had a 90 degree angle and that the sand was supported from falling through the bottom of the trap, which was slightly excavated by currents. I proportioned out the distance from the top of the head, to shoulder, to that 90 degree angle and it was a match to Natalee's photo of her standing -head, to shoulder, to the end of her denim skirt. I showed TM the proportional match and the possibility of a skirt under the sand and he said he's going to tell the parents. I said definitely not until we sample the trap and get results. He made the call to Dave and Beth independently.


Kyle Kingman
Geophysicist and Marine Geologist
Greater New York City Area

Current Manager at Kingman Geophysical Solutions
Past Manager at Kingman Geophysical Solutions
Education Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey-New Brunswick

Kyle Kingman’s Summary
Kyle Kingman’s Specialties:

Project Management, Sonar Acquisition, hydrographic survey, data processing, remote sensing data analysis

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/b/65/464


The Search for Natalee Holloway
Monday, November 26, 2007

I. Mobilization

Key Personnel:

<snipped>

Kyle Kingman - Field Project Manager, Geophysical Engineer and Marine Geologist - Responsible for side scan sonar acquisition, digital processing, analysis, and target identification. Kyle will assist in side scan sonar operation and guide the ROV (remotely operated vehicle) team to each sonar target.

Posted by Kyle Kingman
http://jlbworld.com/files/chapter23/sitedevotedtoseasearch.htm
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/11/mobilization.html

[Kermit]

So, johann wants US to prove that there is a child inside the cage/trap that he is trying to pass off?

Or does johann want us to prove there are hermit crabs in that cage/trap?

[Keepthefaith]

Oh hey I get it!!

Now their game is to discredit Kyle's dimensions and measurements?

Okie doke.

I must say..Trying to discredit Kyle(The Geophysicist)is funny as all hell!Johan555 is trying to discredit the Geophysicist that was there!That's real Logical Johan555!

[Kermit]

facts do not lie 

But you are saying that Kyle Kingman - the geophysicist is a liar about his ability to interpret the data.

[klaasend]

FACT

[Magnolia]

What facts Johan?........you have shown no facts.  You have posted some graphs that
 you have invented.  They do not represent facts no matter how you try to make it so.

You cannot just post something and make it so.

Go back where they accept your word as truth.  We do not!

[Tamikosmom]

Johan ... are you and bastibro not longer one on this issue.

Janet

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg590181#msg590181
bastibro
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #291 on: December 18, 2008, 02:07:51 PM »

"The skull was not the only thing in the cage Johan.
I found this pic very convincing(the hip socket)...I`m sure a skull would be, like Anna and Magnolia said, filled with coral, barnacles or sponges."





http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg590244#msg590244
johan555
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #304 on: December 18, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »

"Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots ( on another pic )
But i have big doubts about the skull.
And if it were human remains were are they Now ?

Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots"

[Kermit]

What say you about your belief in Caps now?

[johan555]

So, johann wants US to prove that there is a child inside the cage/trap that he is trying to pass off?

Or does johann want us to prove there are hermit crabs in that cage/trap?

read good frog/kermit  ! i said if the object is a human being !

[johan555]

Johan ... are you and bastibro not longer one on this issue.

Janet

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg590181#msg590181
bastibro
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #291 on: December 18, 2008, 02:07:51 PM »

"The skull was not the only thing in the cage Johan.
I found this pic very convincing(the hip socket)...I`m sure a skull would be, like Anna and Magnolia said, filled with coral, barnacles or sponges."





http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4246.msg590244#msg590244
johan555
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
« Reply #304 on: December 18, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »

"Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots ( on another pic )
But i have big doubts about the skull.
And if it were human remains were are they Now ?

Yes i saw also some bones on the screenshots"

 i can't talk for bastibro

I did the measurements together with specialists

[Anna]

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* Iris
* Sam
* Debbie

all showed up with one intent

Keep the focus off the trap/cage just like CAPS did.

Don't look into John Silvetii or Louis Schafer
Don't believe the words of Kyle Kingman
and his room mate have deceived not only us, but the family.
It cost Dave Holloway a lot of money to send Fred Golba and Rhino to Aruba.

Who sent him?
Why are these people more interested in giving out personal information rather then digging into who sent Caps and why?

You can  Keep your  focus on the trap

this is my research 

Unfortunately for you, you have no credibility anymore.
Nor do you have a degree in geophysics.
Nor do you have any balls as I recall.

proof the opposite ! tonight !

The contents shown are not on a grid of the trap but the door which is the size of the entire end of the trap.

[Kermit]

So, johann wants US to prove that there is a child inside the cage/trap that he is trying to pass off?

Or does johann want us to prove there are hermit crabs in that cage/trap?

read good frog/kermit  ! i said if the object is a human being !

If being the operative word, means you do not believe this load of garbage you are spreading around.

[Kermit]

this is boring and I don't have time for johann and his fuzzy math skills

[Kermit]

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