Natalee Case Discussion #813 3/31/09 - 4/5/09

[Anna]

FACT - johann posted that Joran was in Den Dolder

No Joran is in Den Dolder  it is in the centre of Holland not far from Utrecht
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg372672#msg372672
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg372672#msg372672

FACT - johann posted that he knew Joran was in Den Dolder because he saw him

I met this boy last week in Den Dolder ,his name is Amar   ( he is also from Aruba ) and he told me that he stays in "De WIER "  that is a semi closed unit  on the Altrecht complex .
He told me also that Joran is there also .They can go outside 1 hour a day .
 this is Amar:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg373431#msg373431


FACT - johann posted that he went to Den Dolder himself

I am going to visit Den Dolder tomorrow again 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg374003#msg374003

FACT - johann tried to convince everyone that Joran was at Den Dolder
I think Joran is still in Den Dolder
I was there this morning and 2 people told me that Joran is there on the Roosenberg Unit .The man on the pic below told me and someone who works there.
The Roosenberg unit is not an open Unit you can see that on the 3th pic .
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg376684#msg376684

TRUTH IS WE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE JORAN WAS JOHANN WHEN YOU KEPT POSTING YOUR LIES THAT YOU SAW JORAN IN DEN DOLDER. JORAN WAS NOT IN DEN DOLDER! FACT! -

BUMP

Yes, he was in Thailand just as de Vries said he was.

Everybody knew that.

So..Why would you lie Johan555????

I had to look it up to be sure my facts were straight...and it's true.  DeathEaters follow the instructions of their Dark Lord.

I don't understand the concept that some posters think they are free to go to other forums and trash posters here and especially Klaas then come back here and DEMAND to be treated with respect.

That just defies all logic.

[Kermit]

Kyle said: I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal
I should clarify that the footage proceeds (if sold) wouldn't even have covered the cost of the project, but it would have helped.


* solicitations for donations
* selling footage of a trap with hermit crabs according to johan555 who told everyone Joran was in Den Dolder.


Istlou called them her HEROES
Hotshot said they gave up Valentines Day and Christmas


FEB 12
Kyle wrote:

Greetings,

We are all holding up well. I just flew back to New Jersey for a much needed break. I've been on the Persistence in Aruba since the 15th of December and will be back on board in about a week amid ROV dives. Things have only just begun to get interesting. We'll likely require a film crew on board for most of the remaining work, so once aired you'll have a lot more information. Stay the course. Thank you for your continued support and prayers.
~Kyle


YOU FORKING COWARDS!

[blah]

Hello, BLAH!

Good to see you in the rafters.

Come on down and join us. 


I was just tryng to teach Johann Fifth grade math.

 

Hi Anna 

[Kermit]

I don't understand the concept that some posters think they are free to go to other forums and trash posters here and especially Klaas then come back here and DEMAND to be treated with respect.

That just defies all logic.

IT IS UNQUESTIONABLY THE MOST DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR WHEN THEY (I USE THE WORD COLLECTIVLY EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WHO IS DOING WHAT TO WHOM BECAUSE IF YOU ARE PART OF A GROUP AND YOU KNOW WHAT HEY DO AND DO NOTHING, THEN YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE - CASA! THAT MEANS YOU TOO!)

*they targeted you Anna and stalked your children
* they targeted me and lied in order to stalk me
* they are calling Janet by doing background checks to obtain personal information.

Despicable human beings.

AND

FORKING COWARDS

NOT ONE of them can provide back up to refute anything.
Not one.

[Artcolley]

I agree with you Anna.

They spew the most vile insults and then when we respond, they act all hurt and attacked.
But, I honestly believe  some of these people are mentally ill. Some of these are the same ones that are sucked in by the REAL operators. They are just the weaklings that have been "molded" to do their bidding.

After they do their little drivebys, they run back for their pat on the head and their dog biscuit.

[Anna]

Johan is calling Kyle Kingman a liar.  I thought he was considered a hero in the company Johan keeps.

[Anna]

In this photo you can see the upright supports.  In the back the one on the left would be one section and the one right at the back of the door on which the contents are would be the next section then you can see in the back on the right the next upsright support.
The door reaches to the second support or half way across the trap.

[Keepthefaith]

FACT - johann posted that Joran was in Den Dolder

No Joran is in Den Dolder  it is in the centre of Holland not far from Utrecht
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg372672#msg372672
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg372672#msg372672

FACT - johann posted that he knew Joran was in Den Dolder because he saw him

I met this boy last week in Den Dolder ,his name is Amar   ( he is also from Aruba ) and he told me that he stays in "De WIER "  that is a semi closed unit  on the Altrecht complex .
He told me also that Joran is there also .They can go outside 1 hour a day .
 this is Amar:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg373431#msg373431


FACT - johann posted that he went to Den Dolder himself

I am going to visit Den Dolder tomorrow again 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg374003#msg374003

FACT - johann tried to convince everyone that Joran was at Den Dolder
I think Joran is still in Den Dolder
I was there this morning and 2 people told me that Joran is there on the Roosenberg Unit .The man on the pic below told me and someone who works there.
The Roosenberg unit is not an open Unit you can see that on the 3th pic .
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg376684#msg376684

TRUTH IS WE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE JORAN WAS JOHANN WHEN YOU KEPT POSTING YOUR LIES THAT YOU SAW JORAN IN DEN DOLDER. JORAN WAS NOT IN DEN DOLDER! FACT! -

BUMP

Yes, he was in Thailand just as de Vries said he was.

Everybody knew that.

So..Why would you lie Johan555????

BUMP

[Keepthefaith]

How is the Copying and pasting coming Johan555????

[Keepthefaith]

How is the Copying and pasting coming Johan555????

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[Keepthefaith]

How is the Copying and pasting coming Johan555????

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johan555, Sam, LoRain, Carnut, Lalasmom, casa

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[johan555]

An underwater light refraction occurs at the front glass, flat glass in the housing separates from the water. As a standard lens behaves as a weak telephoto lens,
 and the objects appear larger than they are.

[jen3560]

That is the most disgusting thread I have ever seen...well, ALMOST the most disgusting.
However, I would LOVE to see the leak exposed And her buddy.

They are at the root of a lot of these problems, and YES, they are both there and BOTH operating these people like puppets.
Harumph.

Well, I needed to wait until Caps and his duck buddy were finished with the pond fraud. What they did not know is that we have something that proves nothing relevant was in that pond. The pond was a diversion.
They obstructed justice - ALL OF THEM!

tick tock

Well you and I both know for damn skippy that I won't be able to post it. 

So that's up to you when/where/how my friend.

[johan555]

"the skull " = 0.2 feet

[Anna]

An underwater light refraction occurs at the front glass, flat glass in the housing separates from the water. As a standard lens behaves as a weak telephoto lens,
 and the objects appear larger than they are.

So having the approximate measurements helps.  It is based on that and not just the appearance.

There is only one internal support and logic dictates it would be in the center and not one third over.

[Magnolia]

An underwater light refraction occurs at the front glass, flat glass in the housing separates from the water. As a standard lens behaves as a weak telephoto lens,
 and the objects appear larger than they are.

AAhhhh but Johan....the WHOLE cage/trap is underwater.

[Keepthefaith]

FACT - johann posted that Joran was in Den Dolder

No Joran is in Den Dolder  it is in the centre of Holland not far from Utrecht
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg372672#msg372672
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg372672#msg372672

FACT - johann posted that he knew Joran was in Den Dolder because he saw him

I met this boy last week in Den Dolder ,his name is Amar   ( he is also from Aruba ) and he told me that he stays in "De WIER "  that is a semi closed unit  on the Altrecht complex .
He told me also that Joran is there also .They can go outside 1 hour a day .
 this is Amar:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg373431#msg373431


FACT - johann posted that he went to Den Dolder himself

I am going to visit Den Dolder tomorrow again 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2784.msg374003#msg374003

FACT - johann tried to convince everyone that Joran was at Den Dolder
I think Joran is still in Den Dolder
I was there this morning and 2 people told me that Joran is there on the Roosenberg Unit .The man on the pic below told me and someone who works there.
The Roosenberg unit is not an open Unit you can see that on the 3th pic .
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2669.msg376684#msg376684

TRUTH IS WE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE JORAN WAS JOHANN WHEN YOU KEPT POSTING YOUR LIES THAT YOU SAW JORAN IN DEN DOLDER. JORAN WAS NOT IN DEN DOLDER! FACT! -

BUMP

Yes, he was in Thailand just as de Vries said he was.

Everybody knew that.

So..Why would you lie Johan555????

BUMP

AGAIN JOHAN555???ONCE A LIAR...ALWAYS A LIAR...

[johan555]

good night all

[Tamikosmom]

I don't understand the concept that some posters think they are free to go to other forums and trash posters here and especially Klaas then come back here and DEMAND to be treated with respect.

That just defies all logic.

IT IS UNQUESTIONABLY THE MOST DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR WHEN THEY (I USE THE WORD COLLECTIVLY EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WHO IS DOING WHAT TO WHOM BECAUSE IF YOU ARE PART OF A GROUP AND YOU KNOW WHAT HEY DO AND DO NOTHING, THEN YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE - CASA! THAT MEANS YOU TOO!)

*they targeted you Anna and stalked your children
* they targeted me and lied in order to stalk me
* they are calling Janet by doing background checks to obtain personal information.

Despicable human beings.

AND

FORKING COWARDS

NOT ONE of them can provide back up to refute anything.
Not one.

Kermit ... the phone calls turned out to be an non issue.

Janet

+++++++

The Aruban "powers that be" have caught not caught up with me yet.  A couple of days ago I decided not to hang up so quickly when there was no response.  About 30 seconds later ... a telemarket recording began.

Janet

[Magnolia]

good night all

Good Riddance!