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« Reply #220 on: April 02, 2009, 12:49:49 AM »

Is that Alex Mathew...former prisioner and enemy of Ben Voking?
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« Reply #221 on: April 02, 2009, 12:50:32 AM »



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Papiamentu translation:

minister president owing to haci aperture of one establecimento new at san nicolas

diabierna night did take lugar aperture oficial of the bar y restaurant foxy lady situa at san nicolas. this is one establecimento exclusivo y of alta calidad cu will help at eleva the desaroyo in the districto here. minister president sr. nelson oduber - in presencia of the owner, sr. alex mathew y family, parlamentarionan y several another invitado - had the honor of haci the aperture here. past owing to felicita sr. mathew y desea his person all clase of exito cu his lugar new. without doubt some cu the inversion here, once more confianza is being demostra in the desaroyo positive of san nicolas y becindario.


TM...Which one is Alex Mathew in the pictures?   
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« Reply #222 on: April 02, 2009, 01:00:23 AM »

Is that Alex Mathew...former prisioner and enemy of Ben Voking?

I think it's the same one.  Eduardo "Alex" Mathew.  Here's an old article.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_11_06_archive.html

Conviction for violating human rights
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11/05/2005

ARUBA – The Netherlands was sentenced to pay Alex Mathew 10.000 euro. Mathew is the man that beat up KIA-governor Ben Vocking in 2001. The
European Court for Human Rights considered Mathew’s complaint legitimate. Mathew said that he had spent the biggest part of his sentence in isolation under inadmissible detention circumstances.

Mathew had battered the then prison governor to such extent that he had to spend a long time in the hospital and he could not return to his job. After the incident, Mathew was put in isolation for seven months. The Common Court of Appeals had already taken these aggravating circumstances into account and lowered the 5-year punishment to 3.5.

The European Court is of the opinion that the isolation period was too long. Besides, the cell he was in didn’t have adequate protection against weather conditions. He couldn’t reach the recreation- and airing place without hurting himself physically. As Mathew was in a wheelchair, the Court indicated that he could have been transferred to a more adequate prison in another part of the Realm.

The sentence has raised many questions in the Lower House. Was there an investigation done on the circumstances in the KIA? The ministers in question indicated that the KIA will be adjusted so that the isolation cells do no longer have to be used as such. The Netherlands has contributed with 25 million Aruban florins to the renovation of the KIA.

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Posted by Getagrip at 11/07/2005 10:54:00 AM
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« Reply #223 on: April 02, 2009, 01:01:22 AM »

Magnolia I think TM must be off researching....I will see Her answer in the morning..

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« Reply #224 on: April 02, 2009, 01:03:51 AM »

Is that Alex Mathew...former prisioner and enemy of Ben Voking?

I think it's the same one.  Eduardo(sp?) "Alex" Mathew.  Here's an old article.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_11_06_archive.html

Conviction for violating human rights
Amigoe
11/05/2005

ARUBA – The Netherlands was sentenced to pay Alex Mathew 10.000 euro. Mathew is the man that beat up KIA-governor Ben Vocking in 2001. The
European Court for Human Rights considered Mathew’s complaint legitimate. Mathew said that he had spent the biggest part of his sentence in isolation under inadmissible detention circumstances.

Mathew had battered the then prison governor to such extent that he had to spend a long time in the hospital and he could not return to his job. After the incident, Mathew was put in isolation for seven months. The Common Court of Appeals had already taken these aggravating circumstances into account and lowered the 5-year punishment to 3.5.

The European Court is of the opinion that the isolation period was too long. Besides, the cell he was in didn’t have adequate protection against weather conditions. He couldn’t reach the recreation- and airing place without hurting himself physically. As Mathew was in a wheelchair, the Court indicated that he could have been transferred to a more adequate prison in another part of the Realm.

The sentence has raised many questions in the Lower House. Was there an investigation done on the circumstances in the KIA? The ministers in question indicated that the KIA will be adjusted so that the isolation cells do no longer have to be used as such. The Netherlands has contributed with 25 million Aruban florins to the renovation of the KIA.

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Posted by Getagrip at 11/07/2005 10:54:00 AM

Not sure about the spelling of his first name.  I've come across it spelled different ways.
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« Reply #225 on: April 02, 2009, 01:05:34 AM »



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Papiamentu translation:

minister president owing to haci aperture of one establecimento new at san nicolas

diabierna night did take lugar aperture oficial of the bar y restaurant foxy lady situa at san nicolas. this is one establecimento exclusivo y of alta calidad cu will help at eleva the desaroyo in the districto here. minister president sr. nelson oduber - in presencia of the owner, sr. alex mathew y family, parlamentarionan y several another invitado - had the honor of haci the aperture here. past owing to felicita sr. mathew y desea his person all clase of exito cu his lugar new. without doubt some cu the inversion here, once more confianza is being demostra in the desaroyo positive of san nicolas y becindario.


TM...Which one is Alex Mathew in the pictures?   

Hi Hotping, yes I was off researching! 

I'm not sure, but I think probably in the black suit next to Oduber in the ribbon cutting picture.
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #226 on: April 02, 2009, 01:36:28 AM »

Anna,
Do you know if there's a picture of Alex Mathew anywhere?  I don't recall ever seeing one.  From what I've read, I think he's black but I'm not sure.
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #227 on: April 02, 2009, 01:37:15 AM »

Rob might be able to recognize him for sure.  Looks a little young to me but maybe he is just aging well.
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« Reply #228 on: April 02, 2009, 01:40:39 AM »

WITNESS IS MALE AND 48 YEARS  OLD
http://tinyurl.com/6h95l7

forward and the fact that the 48 year old witness had passed two polygraph exams
http://tinyurl.com/ca8vpb


THE WITNESS IS NAMED
 
MANSUR: Of course. We know he was involved from the beginning. And after the new wave of things(ph), Mr. Herman, who saw Joran walking with his clothes all muddy. And then later he was saw him in the car with Paulus van der Sloot.

And we assume, and it has been certified by this man that the man who took Joran van der Sloot to his home that night after Natalee disappeared was his father. So he was involved from the beginning.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,462349,00.html

#52 on: Today at 10:44:30 AM
Could Jossy be saying Geerman or Gearman as that is a very common name in Aruba.  Mr. Geerman
 
 #56 on: Today at 10:47:30 AM
Even Werleman...that was mentioned yesterday
 
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I told you guys there was a real live witness...Jossy just gave you his name
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg567142#msg567142


ABOUT THE WITNESS
 
Caps witness was a person that lived on Aruba and had a family there. Caps knew this witness for about 3 1/2 years He said he lived in a house on the road where the pond is.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.msg445163#msg445163

The street that runs alongside the soccer field is Van Bubali Narr Nord.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4743.msg739403#msg739403

 Van Bubali Naar Noord
 
In 2005 I was not on Aruba.   caps
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg371263#msg371263


picture of soccer field with lights here
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3332.900
 



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« Reply #229 on: April 02, 2009, 01:43:02 AM »

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« Reply #230 on: April 02, 2009, 01:58:49 AM »



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Papiamentu translation:

minister president owing to haci aperture of one establecimento new at san nicolas

diabierna night did take lugar aperture oficial of the bar y restaurant foxy lady situa at san nicolas. this is one establecimento exclusivo y of alta calidad cu will help at eleva the desaroyo in the districto here. minister president sr. nelson oduber - in presencia of the owner, sr. alex mathew y family, parlamentarionan y several another invitado - had the honor of haci the aperture here. past owing to felicita sr. mathew y desea his person all clase of exito cu his lugar new. without doubt some cu the inversion here, once more confianza is being demostra in the desaroyo positive of san nicolas y becindario.


TM...Which one is Alex Mathew in the pictures?   

Hi Hotping, yes I was off researching! 

I'm not sure, but I think probably in the black suit next to Oduber in the ribbon cutting picture.

 

It's another one of those clubs....

http://www.foxyladyaruba.info/about.php

About us
Years ago, San Nicolas Aruba was an entertainment hot spot, featuring one of the most electrifying venues on the island called Foxy Lady. The club's closed its doors more than two decades ago, but the memory of it has remained alive in the minds of many Arubans who have since been searching the island for a venue with the same intoxicating atmosphere.


Now, twenty years after the original, the Foxy Lady has reopened as an upscale entertainment club, bigger, better, and more sensational than ever. The club provides Arubans and tourists alike with an experience unlike anything else on the island, where everyone can connect, from the average tourist to the rich and famous. Men, women, singles, and couples all count Foxy Lady Aruba as the one place on the island where everyone can have a great time.

Foxy Lady Aruba functions as a cocktail lounge and bar featuring a sophisticated menu of hors d'oeuvres, desserts, cigars, fine champagne, wines and liquors. During the day the club provides a variety of massages for men, women, and couples. The late night crowd is also in for a treat with nightly entertainment by our VIP foxies and special acts from around the world including world famous feature entertainers and adult film stars. The club also features one of a kind "confession booths" for those who are feeling a little sinful.

Bachelor and Bachelorette parties are a great sendoff for any bride or groom with several options including a variety of special performances by our international foxies. Also, tables in our VIP rooms can be reserved any time through one of our certified event sales representatives located in several convenient locations across the island.

In addition to the above features, Foxy Lady Aruba specializes in setting up special dates with our lovely escorts and planning unforgettable one-of-a-kind exotic vacations for singles and couples traveling to Aruba

(Mathew Entertainment)

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« Reply #231 on: April 02, 2009, 02:00:38 AM »

Anna,
Do you know if there's a picture of Alex Mathew anywhere?  I don't recall ever seeing one.  From what I've read, I think he's black but I'm not sure.


The only ones I can think of are on that website that supposedly showed him all beaten up.  By a guy who doesn't like Aruba and exposes all kinds of things including Oduber's paycheck stub.  Can't think of the name right now but it will come to me eventually and I will post.

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« Reply #232 on: April 02, 2009, 02:01:42 AM »

Rob might be able to recognize him for sure.  Looks a little young to me but maybe he is just aging well.

Maybe it's not the same one.  I found a myspace for Mathew Entertainment.  It says 22 year old female from RI.  Seems to link to the Foxy Lady website in that ads for barmaids etc. are run through it.  I dunno!

 
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« Reply #233 on: April 02, 2009, 02:03:52 AM »

Anna,
Do you know if there's a picture of Alex Mathew anywhere?  I don't recall ever seeing one.  From what I've read, I think he's black but I'm not sure.


The only ones I can think of are on that website that supposedly showed him all beaten up.  By a guy who doesn't like Aruba and exposes all kinds of things including Oduber's paycheck stub.  Can't think of the name right now but it will come to me eventually and I will post.



Thanks Anna.  The more I look at the article pictures, the guy in the black suit looks like Arthur Dowers too!     Me thinks maybe I should just call it a night!
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #234 on: April 02, 2009, 02:13:02 AM »




 The street that runs alongside the soccer field is Van Bubali Narr Nord.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4743.msg739403#msg739403

 Van Bubali Naar Noord


That sounds like the name Bastibro told us one time, too.  Rather strange and should be easy to find in phone book?

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« Reply #235 on: April 02, 2009, 02:14:37 AM »

Rob might be able to recognize him for sure.  Looks a little young to me but maybe he is just aging well.

Maybe it's not the same one.  I found a myspace for Mathew Entertainment.  It says 22 year old female from RI.  Seems to link to the Foxy Lady website in that ads for barmaids etc. are run through it.  I dunno!

 


But RI part sounds right.  Maybe it's a daughter of his?
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« Reply #236 on: April 02, 2009, 02:18:05 AM »

I wonder if it was really the witness who kept bugging Dave Holloway or if it was really Caps a/k/a WLC doing that.

Eyes are crossing so will call it a day.

Goodnite all and especially all those guests up there in the rafters.

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« Reply #237 on: April 02, 2009, 02:23:21 AM »

Rob might be able to recognize him for sure.  Looks a little young to me but maybe he is just aging well.

Maybe it's not the same one.  I found a myspace for Mathew Entertainment.  It says 22 year old female from RI.  Seems to link to the Foxy Lady website in that ads for barmaids etc. are run through it.  I dunno!

 


But RI part sounds right.  Maybe it's a daughter of his?

That's what I thought too, but would he have a daughter that old?  I guess maybe it's possible.

From a chamber newsletter:

THE FOXY LADY
MATHEW BAR, ENTERTAINMENT & MORE N.V.

http://www.arubachamber.com/newsletters/2008-KVK_nummer%203.pdf
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« Reply #238 on: April 02, 2009, 02:26:22 AM »

Maybe it's just me...but one of the pictures in the bar opening article; gave me a hinky feeling.

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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #239 on: April 02, 2009, 02:30:48 AM »



TRUTH & JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!!
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