Lively Case Discussion #487 7/5 - 7/6/2006

[Houdini]

I've always thought that "da pimps" were circling the MB group like sharks at a shipwreck, from the day they hit the island.  I think that many of the girls were discussed as "potential candidates" for their sordid game, and I don't think that NH was the first choice.  I think also (and I don't have any proof) that Geoffrey Van Cromvoirt offered up NH's name because they "hit it off".  (which would give some credence to the "blond haired dutch boy rumor").

I also think it is conceivable that on the last day Joran called his father who came home early to check out the girls in the casino.  With this "last minute go-ahead", Joran tried to put into motion what they had did successfully at least 20 times before.  Deepak was a sub for one of the pimps and quite possibly wasn't in on all the plans for that night.  Now what part of their successful Modus Operandi failed is pure speculation, but the key to this is finding out exactly what they did on a regular basis and what they did different this time.   JMHO

[flyingmermaid]

Latest update on Uncle Mike:

My father has been released and should be back in the U.S. soon.  The embassy is making flight arrangements to get him home ASAP.  My family and I thank all of you for your support and well wishes.

Andrew Chemidlin

Oh this makes me soooo happy.  First thing I read when I sign on.  Wonderful news Jacquie!!  

Hi everybody.  


Can't stay long.  My last Aunt has passed, and I must get ready to leave for the funeral.  

Hope to see everybody soon.  I've missed ya'll

Deepest condolences Snoopy.

My Neighbors Mom died and I made them chili and corn bread last night.

Any special requests?

[Easywriter]

Dana Pretzer tells me no show for Sunday, but plans to do a Saturday show and is working on the details.

I'm also told that young Joran is back in Aruba and has a summer job lined up.  I wonder if he will be tending bar at C-n-C's this summer.....

[SunFreak2]

What happened to Chynadoll?

Glad she's OK!

Chyna Doll somehow cut the side of her face from the front side of her ear almost to her mouth requiring 10 stitches to close it.  It happened this past Monday. She's a little Yorkie weighing just 4# 2 oz.  She's coming along quite well.  Thanks for asking about her.

[Mere]

Good morning friends......

After reading some of the posts that were brought here from the early days......I do wish we had our archives.....are those posts totally gone or do Red and Tom have them somewhere for safe-keeping?

[SunFreak2]

Morning monkeys.
Once again, I will ask a question.  Maybe someone will have an answer for me.  When this entire fiasco began, did the Aruban spokespeople and their media indicate that Paulus was a judge in training and not someone that had flunked the test to be a judge?  Was this not a deception perpetrated from the beginning to make things appear better than it actually was for him?  Why, if he had flunked his test in March did the media (This includes Rubberlegs, JR, and others) continue saying he was in training to be a judge?   Does anyone remember when we actually found out he had already failed his test?  Also, who was the first person to repeat that he was a judge in training?  JR? Arlene? Anyone know?  TIA

IIRC, we found out that Paulus had been dismissed from training in March 2005 in a Haskiboro article wriiten right after he was arrested.  Before that he was referred to as a replacement judge was in reality was little more than a justice of the peace having the power to marry people.

[AZLady]

Kimmy maybe the refugees will start a thread about your affair with Alvin and the Chipmunks!

Houdini - No doubt you will bew linked to a tryst with Penn & Teller!

Fm- that was only a RUMOR!!!!  OK, OK - I admit it - Theodore and I did have a - well - It is heartbreaking for me to even bring up.

Sorry...Pull yourself together dear!

I just read back a bit from last night - the discussion is about former posters but very enlightening.  Posters who started rumors and why they started them.

I never occured to me that people were in it for the reward money from the beginning.

And now there are people on the payroll at refugees to give out misinformation and start rumors - I am as niave as XXX!

Goodmorning all.  I'm really not awake yet but I wanted to comment on the highlight above.

The posters that have been derailing the investigation from the beginning are not in it for the reward money, they are working for the same people that have allowed Joran go free.

Klaas, one little tidbit of information.  Last summer I did quite a bit of research on Posner.  I found and posted the old article from the Chicago newspaper, circa 1980's, that stated his mob connections and his arrest in connection with illegal gambling, racketeering and murder.  Shortly after this, KerinTX emailed me several times wanting to know anything else I knew about Posner and said she was in contact with an FBI agent who was trailing him.  I told that was all I knew.  I backed off quickly when she was so insistent and brought up the FBI.  I don't need that kind of trouble!  I didn't realize then what I know now.  Think she was being paid by Posner to find out what people knew about him?  I do.

[Lala'sMom]

Sunfreak
Thanks for answering my question. I knew there was a monkey with the info I sought.  A gold star for you too.  

[klaasend]

Kimmy maybe the refugees will start a thread about your affair with Alvin and the Chipmunks!

Houdini - No doubt you will bew linked to a tryst with Penn & Teller!

Fm- that was only a RUMOR!!!!  OK, OK - I admit it - Theodore and I did have a - well - It is heartbreaking for me to even bring up.

Sorry...Pull yourself together dear!

I just read back a bit from last night - the discussion is about former posters but very enlightening.  Posters who started rumors and why they started them.

I never occured to me that people were in it for the reward money from the beginning.

And now there are people on the payroll at refugees to give out misinformation and start rumors - I am as niave as XXX!

Goodmorning all.  I'm really not awake yet but I wanted to comment on the highlight above.

The posters that have been derailing the investigation from the beginning are not in it for the reward money, they are working for the same people that have allowed Joran go free.

Klaas, one little tidbit of information.  Last summer I did quite a bit of research on Posner.  I found and posted the old article from the Chicago newspaper, circa 1980's, that stated his mob connections and his arrest in connection with illegal gambling, racketeering and murder.  Shortly after this, KerinTX emailed me several times wanting to know anything else I knew about Posner and said she was in contact with an FBI agent who was trailing him.  I told that was all I knew.  I backed off quickly when she was so insistent and brought up the FBI.  I don't need that kind of trouble!  I didn't realize then what I know now.  Think she was being paid by Posner to find out what people knew about him?  I do.

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

[justinsmama]

I've always thought that "da pimps" were circling the MB group like sharks at a shipwreck, from the day they hit the island.  I think that many of the girls were discussed as "potential candidates" for their sordid game, and I don't think that NH was the first choice.  I think also (and I don't have any proof) that Geoffrey Van Cromvoirt offered up NH's name because they "hit it off".  (which would give some credence to the "blond haired dutch boy rumor").

I also think it is conceivable that on the last day Joran called his father who came home early to check out the girls in the casino.  With this "last minute go-ahead", Joran tried to put into motion what they had did successfully at least 20 times before.  Deepak was a sub for one of the pimps and quite possibly wasn't in on all the plans for that night.  Now what part of their successful Modus Operandi failed is pure speculation, but the key to this is finding out exactly what they did on a regular basis and what they did different this time.   JMHO

Houdini, I think that this is spot on. The only think I would question is the GVC involvement.  Nat rejected his very crude advances. Though he likely is the source of the supposed blue eyed Dutch boy that Renfro has distorted into something completely wrong.

Btw, did I ever say that Renfro is ugly, inside and out? Just in case I did not, Renfro is ugly inside and out.  Ya got that regugees?

[BTgirl]

Good morning...quick drive by.

Jacqueline, when Uncle Mike is confirmed on the plane and ultimately sets foot on US soil, that will be s blessing.  Thank God.

Interesting reading back from last night.  I checked to see if I'd saved it, but I could swear that WW had a link in her sig line that was for a mall, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone else remember this?  At this point, I do not recall if it was Chicago based or if it was just a virtual mall...but I remember looking at it a couple of times to try to figure out who she was or what she did for a living back then.  IIRC

Hi Monkeys,

Just jumping in for a few minutes at lunch.

I remember seeing the link too, and I think it was a virtual mall. I remember looking at the site one time.

[flyingmermaid]

What happened to Chynadoll?

Glad she's OK!

Chyna Doll somehow cut the side of her face from the front side of her ear almost to her mouth requiring 10 stitches to close it.  It happened this past Monday. She's a little Yorkie weighing just 4# 2 oz.  She's coming along quite well.  Thanks for asking about her.

Sunfreak you must tell her to be very careful as Chynadolls are quite delicate!

[klaasend]

Good morning...quick drive by.

Jacqueline, when Uncle Mike is confirmed on the plane and ultimately sets foot on US soil, that will be s blessing.  Thank God.

Interesting reading back from last night.  I checked to see if I'd saved it, but I could swear that WW had a link in her sig line that was for a mall, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone else remember this?  At this point, I do not recall if it was Chicago based or if it was just a virtual mall...but I remember looking at it a couple of times to try to figure out who she was or what she did for a living back then.  IIRC

Hi Monkeys,

Just jumping in for a few minutes at lunch.

I remember seeing the link too, and I think it was a virtual mall. I remember looking at the site one time.

It was www.goinmallin.com, the site is down now.

[justinsmama]

Those who post pro-VDS2 and K2 cannot be after the reward money. If they were, they would not be posting as they do. They know darn well that all 4 are responsible, and attempts to derail that truth will not get them the reward money.

[flyingmermaid]

Good morning...quick drive by.

Jacqueline, when Uncle Mike is confirmed on the plane and ultimately sets foot on US soil, that will be s blessing.  Thank God.

Interesting reading back from last night.  I checked to see if I'd saved it, but I could swear that WW had a link in her sig line that was for a mall, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone else remember this?  At this point, I do not recall if it was Chicago based or if it was just a virtual mall...but I remember looking at it a couple of times to try to figure out who she was or what she did for a living back then.  IIRC

Hi Monkeys,

Just jumping in for a few minutes at lunch.

I remember seeing the link too, and I think it was a virtual mall. I remember looking at the site one time.

Where the heck have you been?

You had me worried sick!

[BTgirl]

Good morning...quick drive by.

Jacqueline, when Uncle Mike is confirmed on the plane and ultimately sets foot on US soil, that will be s blessing.  Thank God.

Interesting reading back from last night.  I checked to see if I'd saved it, but I could swear that WW had a link in her sig line that was for a mall, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone else remember this?  At this point, I do not recall if it was Chicago based or if it was just a virtual mall...but I remember looking at it a couple of times to try to figure out who she was or what she did for a living back then.  IIRC

Hi Monkeys,

Just jumping in for a few minutes at lunch.

I remember seeing the link too, and I think it was a virtual mall. I remember looking at the site one time.

Where the heck have you been?

You had me worried sick!

Ummm....being too lazy to post?  

Actually, things are very busy at work and home right now, so I've not had much posting time.

How are thongs with you these days?

[thirdstrike]

Hello everyone!  Hope all is well...

[BTgirl]

Hello everyone!  Hope all is well...

Hi Thirdstrike

How are you today?

[thirdstrike]

Hello everyone!  Hope all is well...

Hi Thirdstrike

How are you today?

I'm ok...thanks for asking!  And you??

[Lala'sMom]

Hello everyone!  Hope all is well...

Hello, my, my aren't you looking very purple today?  Well, you would be if I could see you.