Lively Case Discussion #487 7/5 - 7/6/2006

[AZLady]

and now I think I'll take a break and let my blood pressure recede.  Talk to you fine Monkeys later.

[Tylergal]

Morning monkeys.
Once again, I will ask a question.  Maybe someone will have an answer for me.  When this entire fiasco began, did the Aruban spokespeople and their media indicate that Paulus was a judge in training and not someone that had flunked the test to be a judge?  Was this not a deception perpetrated from the beginning to make things appear better than it actually was for him?  Why, if he had flunked his test in March did the media (This includes Rubberlegs, JR, and others) continue saying he was in training to be a judge?   Does anyone remember when we actually found out he had already failed his test?  Also, who was the first person to repeat that he was a judge in training?  JR? Arlene? Anyone know?  TIA

Lala's, go to that World Journier thing and see.  I have no idea how I first heard but I heard he flunked his judge test early on.  The source ? I don't know.  I would think that someone, somewhere has a conversation with someone recorded in hypercyberspace taht has that information.  If you do not mind slogging through that World Journier thing, there is a good deal of info there as to times and events.

[Jacqueline]

Latest update on Uncle Mike:

My father has been released and should be back in the U.S. soon.  The embassy is making flight arrangements to get him home ASAP.  My family and I thank all of you for your support and well wishes.

Andrew Chemidlin

Oh this makes me soooo happy.  First thing I read when I sign on.  Wonderful news Jacquie!!  

Hi everybody.  


Can't stay long.  My last Aunt has passed, and I must get ready to leave for the funeral.  

Hope to see everybody soon.  I've missed ya'll

Thanks Snoopy, Flying, 2NJ and anyone else I missed.

So sorry Snoop, for your loss.

[Tylergal]

Latest update on Uncle Mike:

My father has been released and should be back in the U.S. soon.  The embassy is making flight arrangements to get him home ASAP.  My family and I thank all of you for your support and well wishes.

Andrew Chemidlin

That is good news.  He news a big rest and a many hugs from his adoring family.  It is good to hear news like this when there is otherwise so much bad news afloat.

[San]

She sounds so cute.  I would like to see your little girl.  We got our grandson a yorkie for his birthday Saturday and it is very spunky and I hope he will love it as much as you love your Chynadoll.

I am doing fine.  Antibiotics are working very well.  I had pyelonephritis and did not want to stay in hospital over holidays.  Home IV is a neat thing.

Hi Tyler, these are for you.

[flyingmermaid]

Lala's :  Was Paul ever a judge?:
http://tinyurl.com/fctuj

Paul van der Sloot answers the question in the Nova interview:

Reporter (Twan Huys):  Which function do you have here at the island?  Because many stories go around about that. What is your function?
Paulus van der Sloot: I am a replacing member of the joint court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba [1] and I am appointed for a period of three years, from January the first, 2003, until January the first, 2006.
Reporter (Twan Huys):  So, you are replacement judge?
Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.

Well, that muddies the water even more.  So he told people he was a judge even though he head already flunked the test in March?  Well, isn't that just a neat can of worms?  

Where I come from, we call that LYING.  The sweaty b#strd already knew he wasn't a real judge and wouldn't even be a replacement judge for long.  
Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Is this your follow up to cheater cheater, booger eater?

[San]

Where I come from, we call that LYING.  The sweaty b#strd already knew he wasn't a real judge and wouldn't even be a replacement judge for long.  
Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Is this your follow up to cheater cheater, booger eater?

   

[truthseeker2]

This may have been discussed before and I missed it, but was it ever determined why Anita and the younger sons were not in Aruba at the end of the school year when final tests would be going on?  Seems like if she is a teacher she would need to be there?  And what about the other two school age boys?  Why were they in Holland at this particular time?

[Tylergal]

Those who post pro-VDS2 and K2 cannot be after the reward money. If they were, they would not be posting as they do. They know darn well that all 4 are responsible, and attempts to derail that truth will not get them the reward money.

Justin's, they probably aren't after the reward money, but some of them were hired to post pro-Joran and K2 ideas, to sway public opinion, to throw out misinformation and incorrect information, and to disrupt boards like SM.   I believe they are paid by the Posner/VDS people.  Not all of them are on the payroll, but enough to do some damage.

I would say that probably 50% of them are being paid, and the other 50% are too stupid to know that they are doing this to make the others look good and when they find out the others were paid, will try to sink them but it will be too late, as the ones posting there have already sunk themselves.  Like I said last night, anyone who posts that kind of stuff could never redeem himself/herself with me.  I am not as forgiving as Jesus Christ.  As far as I am concerned, they are spoiled goods.  If forgiveness is to be attained, it would have to be through someone more godly than I, because my mortal self does not have the capacity to forgive some hate, such denigration or to look beyond their outward selves.

[Houdini]

Houdini wrote:
I've always thought that "da pimps" were circling the MB group like sharks at a shipwreck, from the day they hit the island. I think that many of the girls were discussed as "potential candidates" for their sordid game, and I don't think that NH was the first choice. I think also (and I don't have any proof) that Geoffrey Van Cromvoirt offered up NH's name because they "hit it off". (which would give some credence to the "blond haired dutch boy rumor").

I also think it is conceivable that on the last day Joran called his father who came home early to check out the girls in the casino. With this "last minute go-ahead", Joran tried to put into motion what they had did successfully at least 20 times before. Deepak was a sub for one of the pimps and quite possibly wasn't in on all the plans for that night. Now what part of their successful Modus Operandi failed is pure speculation, but the key to this is finding out exactly what they did on a regular basis and what they did different this time. JMHO

Justinsmama wrote:
Houdini, I think that this is spot on. The only think I would question is the GVC involvement. Nat rejected his very crude advances. Though he likely is the source of the supposed blue eyed Dutch boy that Renfro has distorted into something completely wrong.

Btw, did I ever say that Renfro is ugly, inside and out? Just in case I did not, Renfro is ugly inside and out. Ya got that regugees?


Justinsmama
If you're talking about the episode with him at C&C's, that is after the fact.  I believe he met her earlier in the week, they "hit it off", and I think he submitted her name to da pimps.  Matter of fact, the whole episode with Natalee and Joran in C&C's could have been NH's attempt to anger Geoffrey or make him jealous.  We can speculate that this is how da pimps get the target to leave with one of them.  There is another MB student that left early to go back to the hotel, but I never heard a coherent reason why.

[Tylergal]

So we heard they searched Lorenzo's house.  I assume the big pretty one on the hill. Did they search anything related to Freddy?  I don't remember.  I think his house is behind the Sloot compound.  Maybe down the block a bit.  Easily within walking distance. And his house is bigger than Joran's. Okay time to ponder.....

But remember what we were told via Tito is that Guido was Lorenzo and had gone to Holland.  He was telling us that Guido Wever was Lorenzo so it is easy to see that all they were here for was to confuse people.

[Peaches]

Lala's :  Was Paul ever a judge?:
http://tinyurl.com/fctuj

Paul van der Sloot answers the question in the Nova interview:

Reporter (Twan Huys):  Which function do you have here at the island?  Because many stories go around about that. What is your function?
Paulus van der Sloot: I am a replacing member of the joint court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba [1] and I am appointed for a period of three years, from January the first, 2003, until January the first, 2006.
Reporter (Twan Huys):  So, you are replacement judge?
Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.

Well, that muddies the water even more.  So he told people he was a judge even though he head already flunked the test in March?  Well, isn't that just a neat can of worms?  

Where I come from, we call that LYING.  The sweaty b#strd already knew he wasn't a real judge and wouldn't even be a replacement judge for long.  
Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Is this your follow up to cheater cheater, booger eater?

Yes, I believe it is.

[Tylergal]

If people uses the word PRIDE in the same sentence with the word ARUBA again, I will puke on them.  

When you hear them use PRIDE in the same sentence with ARUBA, that is when you know they have been dining on that CAN-O-SHIT-O.

[Tylergal]

She sounds so cute.  I would like to see your little girl.  We got our grandson a yorkie for his birthday Saturday and it is very spunky and I hope he will love it as much as you love your Chynadoll.

I am doing fine.  Antibiotics are working very well.  I had pyelonephritis and did not want to stay in hospital over holidays.  Home IV is a neat thing.

Hi Tyler, these are for you.

San, you are the swetest.  If you ever need to get away from the rain, the hustle and bustle of the city, there's a place nearby that you can come and sit and read, just meditate.

http://tinypic.com/16izmgh.jpg

[Sue]

This may have been discussed before and I missed it, but was it ever determined why Anita and the younger sons were not in Aruba at the end of the school year when final tests would be going on?  Seems like if she is a teacher she would need to be there?  And what about the other two school age boys?  Why were they in Holland at this particular time?

Acoording to what I see, those kids spend more time out of school
then in school bouncing around the world, it is a wonder Paul failed
his Judge test.. How can you study when your not in class..
Great role models for the kids huh, one failure to raise more

[Peaches]

My monitor at home has finally bought the farm.   Yesterday, daughter asks me "what's that smell in the guest room".  My first guess, cat crap, was incorrect (good, I guess).  The monitor was emitting that nasty odor that alerts you to the fact it's going to catch fire.  

Unplugged that bad boy.  Just another problem to solve later.

[Sue]

Hi Ya Peaches, Was thinking of you the other day
when I took at Great picture of my bassett swimming in our pool

http://i62.photobucket.com

Hope all is well with you

[Sue]

Damn the pic didnt show up

[Tylergal]

Hi Ya Peaches, Was thinking of you the other day
when I took at Great picture of my bassett swimming in our pool

http://i62.photobucket.com

Hope all is well with you

Sue, you will need to give us access to your photobucket.  We want to see your bassett playing in the pool.

[Tylergal]

This is my place to sit and read.  Wanted to share it with all of you.  We do have a covered area near the shop that will accommodate 7-8 people and then our patio/pergola area ccommodates about 20, but this is my little world to get away and read and hide out.


http://tinypic.com/16izmgh.jpg