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« Reply #900 on: July 06, 2006, 03:06:53 PM »

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Do you know if it was ever discussed on this site about why Anita and the young kids were off the island during the time Natalee went missing and where in Holland they were?  I have never understood why Paulus returned without them and/or why the enitre family was gone, but Joran was left behind.

It's been said the family was at a family get together.  I have no idea why Paulus would need to return prior to Anita and the kids.  Interresting that you should bring it up though as Joran claims his younger brothers were in town when Natalee went missing.

Widget somehow check with the airlines though and confirmed that there were 3 Sloots traveling on June 1st from the Netherlands to Aruba.  Which would mean Paulus had no reason to leave the casino early and Joran was lieing again.
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« Reply #901 on: July 06, 2006, 03:08:04 PM »

Hubbylove - nice to see you back!

Truthseaker - nice to have you back in the forum as well!
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« Reply #902 on: July 06, 2006, 03:11:36 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2161002

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« Reply #903 on: July 06, 2006, 03:12:54 PM »

Klaasend,
did you read the story on Michelle Blog about the atv accident in aruba
where a woman was killed.. it is on her front page of natalee's boycott
about 4 stories down

Makes for interesting reading
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« Reply #904 on: July 06, 2006, 03:15:43 PM »

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Klaas,

Do you know if it was ever discussed on this site about why Anita and the young kids were off the island during the time Natalee went missing and where in Holland they were?  I have never understood why Paulus returned without them and/or why the enitre family was gone, but Joran was left behind.

It's been said the family was at a family get together.  I have no idea why Paulus would need to return prior to Anita and the kids.  Interresting that you should bring it up though as Joran claims his younger brothers were in town when Natalee went missing.

Widget somehow check with the airlines though and confirmed that there were 3 Sloots traveling on June 1st from the Netherlands to Aruba.  Which would mean Paulus had no reason to leave the casino early and Joran was lieing again.


If the reason for leaving Aruba right during test finals, Anita being a teacher, makes the family event sound very important.  Seems Joran should have been there.

I remember Widget's post about the flight to Aruba and the number of Sloots.  That Joran would lie about why his father went home early (supposedly) comes as no surprise.

What I keep wondering about is why Joran was there alone, until Paulus, minus the misses, returns the same night Natalee disappears.  It makes me wonder if one of them was in some kind of trouble - like discussed here many times - and Paulus made sure Anita and the younger kids were not on the island when they took care of (fixed) their problem.
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« Reply #905 on: July 06, 2006, 03:16:38 PM »

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Hubbylove - nice to see you back!

Truthseaker - nice to have you back in the forum as well!


Thanks.  It's good to be back.  I've been trying to catch up for two days now.  Finally got here.
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« Reply #906 on: July 06, 2006, 03:16:51 PM »

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Klaasend,
did you read the story on Michelle Blog about the atv accident in aruba
where a woman was killed.. it is on her front page of natalee's boycott
about 4 stories down

Makes for interesting reading


Yes, actually it was posted here when it happened.  One of our members, I think Houdini actually works with the couple.  I found an article about it with a photo in the Aruban publication Awemainta.
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« Reply #907 on: July 06, 2006, 03:18:06 PM »

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Klaas,

Do you know if it was ever discussed on this site about why Anita and the young kids were off the island during the time Natalee went missing and where in Holland they were?  I have never understood why Paulus returned without them and/or why the enitre family was gone, but Joran was left behind.

It's been said the family was at a family get together.  I have no idea why Paulus would need to return prior to Anita and the kids.  Interresting that you should bring it up though as Joran claims his younger brothers were in town when Natalee went missing.

Widget somehow check with the airlines though and confirmed that there were 3 Sloots traveling on June 1st from the Netherlands to Aruba.  Which would mean Paulus had no reason to leave the casino early and Joran was lieing again.


If the reason for leaving Aruba right during test finals, Anita being a teacher, makes the family event sound very important.  Seems Joran should have been there.

I remember Widget's post about the flight to Aruba and the number of Sloots.  That Joran would lie about why his father went home early (supposedly) comes as no surprise.

What I keep wondering about is why Joran was there alone, until Paulus, minus the misses, returns the same night Natalee disappears.  It makes me wonder if one of them was in some kind of trouble - like discussed here many times - and Paulus made sure Anita and the younger kids were not on the island when they took care of (fixed) their problem.


Possible but what kind of trouble?  Gambling debts?
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« Reply #908 on: July 06, 2006, 03:21:10 PM »

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If you're talking about the episode with him at C&C's, that is after the fact.  I believe he met her earlier in the week, they "hit it off", and I think he submitted her name to da pimps.  Matter of fact, the whole episode with Natalee and Joran in C&C's could have been NH's attempt to anger Geoffrey or make him jealous.  We can speculate that this is how da pimps get the target to leave with one of them.  There is another MB student that left early to go back to the hotel, but I never heard a coherent reason why.



Would you mind sharing where you heard or read this information as I was of the impression Natalee rebuffed GVC's crude advances on  I think it was Friday night.  She was only there three nights before she disappeared, there was no "earlier in the week" that I am aware of.  Except in the fevered brain of SandraK.

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« Reply #909 on: July 06, 2006, 03:30:16 PM »

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If the reason for leaving Aruba right during test finals, Anita being a teacher, makes the family event sound very important.  Seems Joran should have been there.

I remember Widget's post about the flight to Aruba and the number of Sloots.  That Joran would lie about why his father went home early (supposedly) comes as no surprise.

What I keep wondering about is why Joran was there alone, until Paulus, minus the misses, returns the same night Natalee disappears.  It makes me wonder if one of them was in some kind of trouble - like discussed here many times - and Paulus made sure Anita and the younger kids were not on the island when they took care of (fixed) their problem.


Possible but what kind of trouble?  Gambling debts?


Possibly.  That or something drug related.  Joran sure seemed to have enough money to run around the casinos whenever he wanted and lose money.  Where did he get it?  Maybe they were both involved with the money laudering or drug business and skimmed a little more than they could hide.  

I just can't make myself believe that the officials in Aruba are letting the island economy suffer because of these 3 guys.  No matter what they did, if they were the only ones involved you would think they would not sacrifice the entire island just for them.  i have to think there is something much bigger behind all this.
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« Reply #910 on: July 06, 2006, 03:31:26 PM »

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Just saw that myself, Jacqueline.  7% sales tax....
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« Reply #911 on: July 06, 2006, 03:32:05 PM »

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If the reason for leaving Aruba right during test finals, Anita being a teacher, makes the family event sound very important.  Seems Joran should have been there.

I remember Widget's post about the flight to Aruba and the number of Sloots.  That Joran would lie about why his father went home early (supposedly) comes as no surprise.

What I keep wondering about is why Joran was there alone, until Paulus, minus the misses, returns the same night Natalee disappears.  It makes me wonder if one of them was in some kind of trouble - like discussed here many times - and Paulus made sure Anita and the younger kids were not on the island when they took care of (fixed) their problem.


Possible but what kind of trouble?  Gambling debts?


Possibly.  That or something drug related.  Joran sure seemed to have enough money to run around the casinos whenever he wanted and lose money.  Where did he get it?  Maybe they were both involved with the money laudering or drug business and skimmed a little more than they could hide.  

I just can't make myself believe that the officials in Aruba are letting the island economy suffer because of these 3 guys.  No matter what they did, if they were the only ones involved you would think they would not sacrifice the entire island just for them.  i have to think there is something much bigger behind all this.
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I completely agree with you on this one...and why did pvds hire an attorney for damn near everybody....
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« Reply #912 on: July 06, 2006, 03:32:33 PM »

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Just saw that myself, Jacqueline.  7% sales tax....


WOW!
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« Reply #913 on: July 06, 2006, 03:34:30 PM »

I been thinking what will be the next big break in this case?  If Joran hadn't come to the US and not gotten served where would the case be today.  So many things that were started and never finished, the meeting in the airport with Greta that might lead to something?  Greta was reading all the transcripts while the PIMPS were in jail stopped.  Is the civil case the only hope for this family?  I don't put too much trust in the civil case, they take forever and what happens if the Sloots just take a default?  If the case goes cold do we have access to the investigation or is it hidden like everything else.. How can the family get what was done on this case from the ALE?  Is there away that the FBI, State Department, etc. can make a statement in support of Natalee and her family?  

Aruba has shut its mouth again and last time the only thing that open it was Joran wanting to do an interview for Current Affair..  I hope he makes another mistake but I don't see it..
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« Reply #914 on: July 06, 2006, 03:35:48 PM »

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Klaas,

Do you know if it was ever discussed on this site about why Anita and the young kids were off the island during the time Natalee went missing and where in Holland they were?  I have never understood why Paulus returned without them and/or why the enitre family was gone, but Joran was left behind.

It's been said the family was at a family get together.  I have no idea why Paulus would need to return prior to Anita and the kids.  Interresting that you should bring it up though as Joran claims his younger brothers were in town when Natalee went missing.

Widget somehow check with the airlines though and confirmed that there were 3 Sloots traveling on June 1st from the Netherlands to Aruba.  Which would mean Paulus had no reason to leave the casino early and Joran was lieing again.


If the reason for leaving Aruba right during test finals, Anita being a teacher, makes the family event sound very important.  Seems Joran should have been there.

I remember Widget's post about the flight to Aruba and the number of Sloots.  That Joran would lie about why his father went home early (supposedly) comes as no surprise.

What I keep wondering about is why Joran was there alone, until Paulus, minus the misses, returns the same night Natalee disappears.  It makes me wonder if one of them was in some kind of trouble - like discussed here many times - and Paulus made sure Anita and the younger kids were not on the island when they took care of (fixed) their problem.


Possible but what kind of trouble?  Gambling debts?


Howdy Y'All .......

Paulus's Mid-Life Crisis .........

Could Be Paulus & Anita Were Splitting Up .............

Only What Happened On May 30th Changed All That ..........

Could Be Paulus Never Left Aruba After His Return In March ......

That Seems To Be The Start Of The PIMPS 20 Girl Run ...........

There Is Definetly A Connection Beyond Our Vision With Posner & Paulus

The Manager At The Excelsior Casino Stated That Joran Preys On Young

American Tourists .............PERKS .............DRUGS........SEX ........

There Is A Connection Between Posner & The Lions Club ..........

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JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT , THEY PULL ME BACK IN ...........

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« Reply #915 on: July 06, 2006, 03:37:00 PM »

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Gerold Dompig Officially Resigns From Aruban Police … ALE Suffers Brain Drain …


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/07/06/gerold-dompig-officially-resigns-from-aruban-police-ale-suffers-brain-drain/

Hmm .. brain drain ... so that's what ya call it.

“When will we mature? When will we trust our own people”?

Bringing in a Dutch Chief again will not contribute to the progress of the police force.
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« Reply #916 on: July 06, 2006, 03:37:48 PM »

Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

Check out Red's new front page post:


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Gerold Dompig Officially Resigns From Aruban Police … ALE Suffers Brain Drain …
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« Reply #917 on: July 06, 2006, 03:38:15 PM »

I think the weakest link would be the Kalpoe's they are not Dutch and depend on others for protection.. Joran never looked worried and could care less about anyone but himself..  The Kalpoe's are not native and don't have any real connections except whatever they feel they have over Joran and Joran has over them..
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« Reply #918 on: July 06, 2006, 03:41:16 PM »

Do the different mafia's get along?  I really don't know, I would think they would be in competition and hopefully one that wasn't part of this, might resent the fact that their money is being hurt and the light is on them too.. So we have the Dutch and what other mafia's are over there and which one is the one doing the coverup..
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« Reply #919 on: July 06, 2006, 03:42:22 PM »

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I think the weakest link would be the Kalpoe's they are not Dutch and depend on others for protection.. Joran never looked worried and could care less about anyone but himself..  The Kalpoe's are not native and don't have any real connections except whatever they feel they have over Joran and Joran has over them..

I agree Terry, they are definately the weakest link especially Satish.
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