Lively Case Discussion #538 10/26 - 10/29/2005

[mrs. red]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

[San]

Grande posted that they lived next to the Gottenbos' in Georgia.....

I wonder if they have kids Sander and Koen's age.

[Florida]

3 Preliminary Search Results for: " Gottenbos"  Georgia
 
 
1 ALEX GOTTENBOS
- BUFORD GA
     
2 RENITA GOTTENBOS
- BUFORD GA
       
3 RICHARD GOTTENBOS
- DULUTH GA

[Grande]

Who are the OLMTAK'S?

I don't know... why do you ask??

Franciscus Olmtak was the Gottenbos' next door neighbor in Malmokweg.   Olmtak's also have a home in Dacula, Georgia as seen in the link I posted.  According to Sander's Tickle site, the Gottenbos' are also living in Dacula.  The picture of Sander with the $1300 is in the parking lot of Mills Creek HS in Buford, Georgia just north of Dacula.  The speculation is either the Gottenbos' are renting from the Olmtak's or are living with them.   The link I posted shows Sander standing in the Olmtak's driveway on Dacula Oaks Trail.

[sb]

Atlanta has changed a lot since I spent any time there but Gwinnett County is definitely an upscale and booming area. I understand that it is now starting to outstrip the NW suburbs in Cobb as the "place to go" for the upper middle-class crowd. It is not the standard Georgia trailer-park haven any more. It is not a place to pack up your station wagon and head off to with the want ads in hand. You had best be quite well established before making a move there.

Further proof that the Gottenbos family is particularly well-heeled.

Follow the $$$.

[Florida]

Thanks, Grande.

6 Preliminary Search Results for: " OLMTAK"  
 
 
1 ADRIANA T OLMTAK
- DACULA GA
       
2 FRANCISCUS H OLMTAK
- DACULA GA    

3 JOHN E OLMTAK
- LITHONIA GA    

4 JOHN E OLMTAK
- PINE LAKE GA    
   
5 LEONARD E OLMTAK
- DACULA GA    
   
6 MARIANNE N OLMTAK
- DACULA GA

[Florida]

Just a feeling I have:  

There most likely is an EUROCOPTER plant in Atlanta, Georgia.

[sharon]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

What if they paid cash

[mrs. red]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

What if they paid cash

Oh... wouldn't there be a deed though? Are Gwinnett County deeds on line?

[sb]

Looking at a map, though, Dacula and Buford are some distance apart. On opposite sides of I-85. I think that if they are living in Dacula, they would not be attending a school that far away. In fact, I don't see that it would be required for them to be attending any particular school, as foreign nationals.

Maybe the kid was just trolling the parking lot. Which seems to be expected behavior for his like.

[Jacqueline]

hey peeps.... I am watching the Great Pumpkin....

  So am I...

now we are watching the trave channel.... all these haunted places.....it's scary and weird... but it's interesting at the same time....

Did you and Red ever go to Lizzie Bordens house that is now a B&B?
I would go for the tour, but now way would I sleep over!

[Grande]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

What if they paid cash

Oh... wouldn't there be a deed though? Are Gwinnett County deeds on line?

Gwinnett County is online, Jackson County is not.  However in some cases if you explain what you are looking for they will be more inclined to offer more detailed results than what will appear online.  That link I posted has the image from the Gwinnett County GISystem.

[mrs. red]

hey peeps.... I am watching the Great Pumpkin....

  So am I...

now we are watching the trave channel.... all these haunted places.....it's scary and weird... but it's interesting at the same time....

Did you and Red ever go to Lizzie Bordens house that is now a B&B?
I would go for the tour, but now way would I sleep over!

no way chica... I am way skeeered for that.... I have made it to Salem, MA......

[Grande]

Looking at a map, though, Dacula and Buford are some distance apart. On opposite sides of I-85. I think that if they are living in Dacula, they would not be attending a school that far away. In fact, I don't see that it would be required for them to be attending any particular school, as foreign nationals.

Maybe the kid was just trolling the parking lot. Which seems to be expected behavior for his like.

That certainly is possible, however the white page search results and a personal 'revelation' suggests they may be in Buford.  My thought was that they may have resided with the Olmtak's and then relocated to Buford where Mills Creek HS is located.  See Florida's white page listing results for Gottenbos' in Buford, specifically Alex and Renita.

[sharon]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

What if they paid cash

Oh... wouldn't there be a deed though? Are Gwinnett County deeds on line?

I don't know -- that's why I asked. Can't say that I ever paid cash for a house

[Grande]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

What if they paid cash

Oh... wouldn't there be a deed though? Are Gwinnett County deeds on line?

I don't know -- that's why I asked. Can't say that I ever paid cash for a house

The owner of the property would be recorded in the Assessors office regardless of the financial terms.

[mrs. red]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

What if they paid cash

Oh... wouldn't there be a deed though? Are Gwinnett County deeds on line?

I don't know -- that's why I asked. Can't say that I ever paid cash for a house

there would be a deed... but yeah, I only know that from taking real estate law...not first hand knowledge....

[BTgirl]

hey peeps.... I am watching the Great Pumpkin....

  So am I...

now we are watching the trave channel.... all these haunted places.....it's scary and weird... but it's interesting at the same time....

Did you and Red ever go to Lizzie Bordens house that is now a B&B?
I would go for the tour, but now way would I sleep over!

I would!!

[Grande]

A search of The Georgia Superior Court Clerks’ Cooperative Authority, Georgia Consolidated Real Estate Indexes for all counties showed no listing for Alex and Renita Gottenbos

[sharon]

FWIW I spoke with multiple people in the clerks office in Gwinnett County, Georgia looking for the a recorded deed for the Gottenbos'.  According to 3 seperate databases there are no Gottenbos' in Gwinnett with a mortgage.  I presume they are either still staying with Franciscus or are renting in Buford.  Someone suggested they were in Buford, within miles of the Mills Creek HS where Sander attends although I have not seen any confirmation of this.

thanks for checking it all out.... I wonder if they are just renting...??

What if they paid cash

Oh... wouldn't there be a deed though? Are Gwinnett County deeds on line?

I don't know -- that's why I asked. Can't say that I ever paid cash for a house

The owner of the property would be recorded in the Assessors office regardless of the financial terms.

Thanks Grande. I misread your initial post to mean you had looked through mortgage records only.

And I thought there might be a chance that daddy G might have a bigger wad of cash available than Sander.