Lively Case Discussion #538 10/26 - 10/29/2005

[mrs. red]

I can barely speak for myself let alone others! LOL  

      that's what I'm saying...

[klaasend]

Klaasend, I am still amused by the little Dompig car.
that was the winner for me.The all time...  

Thanks!  Anna sent me that .gif and suggested that I play around with it.  I like it too!  Any requests as far as different drivers?  

[Kat_Gram]

I am sure te occasion will arise when new drivers will fit.
I need to do some stuff today, but I have been thinking alot about David Koch being on Dana's show. I did post some stuff over in the thread for Dana, but I would rather just wait and see what he comes up with instead of firing questions at him. I hope he is a talkative one. When Dana just lets them talk, thing go in a  different direction than what we anticipate. Not that he will disclose anything harmful to his clients, but
hearing from ppl close to is always interesting. Just like when Art Wood was on. He said that Sander's phone was lost... confirmed by Sander's statements to the ALE.  Plus the belt. Plus Paulus arranging for a lawyer for Freddy.

[mrs. red]

I think paulus driving the car off a cliff is appropriate....

[sharon]

Sue-

Thank you for posting that piece again, still rings true, doesn't it?

Altho I don't think kbm is the 'real kbm' I am glad he's contained within his own corner now, and those fascinated with him can access him there. Amazing how hotshot found him?   geez wonder how her presentation is going at her secret meeting today?  

My personal belief is that there are two people using that nic although I have not asked RED or Klaas about it.... but the syntax changes too much.... and that one is the kid, and one is someone coaching the kid... and I don't for one second think that either really care about anything other than protecting the island.  That is MY personal belief.... I think that the people on the island fall for the insurance scam BS so easily because scamming has become the way of life...

tourists are people to them - tourist are what you use to make your money and well too bad if "something bad happens"... after all they asked for it....

editorial opinions expressed above are mine and only mine and are not the opinions of anyone other than me....

It's not just your opinion Mrs R, I'm with you on this one.

The differences between the '2' are stark.

But no stone unturned, right

[Anna]

Mrs Red,
That's what I thought, that we were here for Natalee's family and her supporters.  Now I read some urging that we "embrace" Kawish, an avowed Joran supporter.  While I will try very hard to be polite and civil, that is not why I am here, to embrace Joran supporters.  

No, thanks.  And I only speak for myself.   But we all know that is where some of the worst misinformation has come from before and we have been sent doing everything from tracking down Leon von Loon to Caracas.

Fool me once and all that!

JMHO.  Everyone else is free to do whatever they please, of course.  Would just expect they would return that right to me as well.  Some haven't and don't.  But this, too, shall pass as Kawish says he was not in Aruba when Natalee disappeared, etc.  And Bon Dia always had her supporters as well.

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[mrs. red]

thanks Sharon!  I suspect that quite a few share that opinion... but I don't want to speak for those that don't...  

[Sue]

Hey y'all... Sue I am glad that you posted that... I was thinking this morning that I wish Dana could interview her and I am going to see if I can talk to him and Red and see if we can do that.....

I would like to hear about other cases she does as well.... I know that the show Medium is based on her -

Yes Mrs. Red that is one interview I have saved all along.. She is very respected in her circle and to me that makes a damn BOLD statement
on national  tv that they are guilty opeing herself up to liability
It has just stuck in my mind from the day I saw the interview live

[Kat_Gram]

I think paulus driving the car off a cliff is appropriate....

Alone or with two passengers ?

[Sue]

when is David Koch going to be on Dana's show??

[mrs. red]

Mrs Red,
That's what I thought, that we were here for Natalee's family and her supporters.  Now I read some urging that we "embrace" Kawish, an avowed Joran supporter.  While I will try very hard to be polite and civil, that is not why I am here, to embrace Joran supporters.  

No, thanks.  And I only speak for myself.   But we all know that is where some of the worst misinformation has come from before and we have been sent doing everything from tracking down Leon von Loon to Caracas.

Fool me once and all that!

JMHO.  Everyone else is free to do whatever they please, of course.  Would just expect they would return that right to me as well.  Some haven't and don't.  But this, too, shall pass as Kawish says he was not in Aruba when Natalee disappeared, etc.  And Bon Dia always had her supporters as well.

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I think that there are people that feel like we should hear what the arubans have to say, but i think we've heard it... bondia, tito, arlene, jvds, and i keep hearing the same thing more or less....  

it would be nice for someone to come forward with the truth... but I guess they are worried about committing suicide by nailing their own hands to a cross, chopping off their own legs and then setting themselves on fire... but hey, what do I know?  I haven't ever been to one skanky island and I am not ever going now that I am banned....

[mrs. red]

I think paulus driving the car off a cliff is appropriate....

Alone or with two passengers ?

oh... i think he should take anita with him....

[2NJSons_Mom]

It's not just your opinion Mrs R, I'm with you on this one.

The differences between the '2' are stark.

But no stone unturned, right

I noticed the first day and sent a couple emails about the obvious difference in grammar/language.  I chose not to challenge on the board, but to observe.  I had to leave for several hours and when I came back, all he$$ had broken loose.  So much for silent observation.    

[mrs. red]

Sue, tomorrow nite at 9....

[Anna]

I don't think David Kock can answer questions about the case specifically since it is supposedly on going despite no signs of this at all.  Guess he can explain the finer points (hahahaha!) of Aruban law to us and how it can be one thing one day and another the next.

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[mrs. red]

well i would like the answer as to why he thought there would be a trial... didn't he say that earlier?


NJ... I have learned there is nothing secret between the monkeys.... LOL

[Sue]

Sue-

Thank you for posting that piece again, still rings true, doesn't it?

Altho I don't think kbm is the 'real kbm' I am glad he's contained within his own corner now, and those fascinated with him can access him there. Amazing how hotshot found him?   geez wonder how her presentation is going at her secret meeting today?  

I just caught this again reading about this secret meeting..
this is second time I have heard of this a couple ppl from BFN will be there if we are talking about same meeting... This all gets stranger by the
day

[Kat_Gram]

I could understand the " embracing " Kawish statement.
Kawish should look at the motivation of ppl here ( I have no ulterior motives towards Aruba ) and maybe there could be some understanding on his part of WHY this case will not go away.
Always good to communicate with people on a human to human basis.
One thing I was looking for late was the song by OFIR and the lyrics.
For Kawish.
Here is a girl / woman who was very moved on a soul feeling heartfelt basis and translated those feeling to a song.  
This is something that the Aruban ppl we have met ( well, most of them ) do not seem capable of.

[Sue]

Sue, tomorrow nite at 9....

Thank you Mrs. Red

[Carnut]

Ice skating sure is getting entertaining.

This Halloween on Ice is taking me back to the Ice Capades of the 50's.