Lively Case Discussion #538 10/26 - 10/29/2005

[Kat_Gram]

We seem to be here by ourselves.
If it was the secret meeting yesterday, the secret agenda is available.
Now, we need the secret minutes of the secret meeting.
They will be available later somewhere secret.

[Buckeye]

Upon re-re-re-reading the above portion of Paul's statement - I understand it to mean that Paul deposited 500 guilders in Joran's bank account.

And he says it's from the free tournament on Sunday night.  The MB girls say Joran was betting heavy at the blackjack table (after the poker game) and lost about $250.  I'm with San, if Paulus did try to go to the bank Monday am (and not just try to cover for being seen in Noord instead of at work) then it was to take care of the weekend activity.  Maybe get a debit card back that tried to access too much money??? JMO

[Kat_Gram]

I did see the secret agenda at a place where I cannot post a link to.
I should not make fun of it. Just that it is all over the net. Too I spy for me.

[Leslie]

All I need to know is that Reality aka Diva2 was at this secret meeting and I am glad I was not invited.  WTH is going on?

[Florida]

I did see the secret agenda at a place where I cannot post a link to.
I should not make fun of it. Just that it is all over the net. Too I spy for me.

Sorry, I'm confused......
If it's all over the Net there would be a link?

[Leslie]

Upon re-re-re-reading the above portion of Paul's statement - I understand it to mean that Paul deposited 500 guilders in Joran's bank account.

And he says it's from the free tournament on Sunday night.  The MB girls say Joran was betting heavy at the blackjack table (after the poker game) and lost about $250.  I'm with San, if Paulus did try to go to the bank Monday am (and not just try to cover for being seen in Noord instead of at work) then it was to take care of the weekend activity.  Maybe get a debit card back that tried to access too much money??? JMO

This is what I wrote earlier today:
Pondering the actions of Paul on Monday, May 30, 2005. If we are to believe Paul ( I don't) he was at the bank, as soon as it opened, trying to deposit money into Joran's bank account, but was turned away by the crowd of people. I think that is his excuse for leaving work and being in the vicinity of his home but there might be another explanation.
When one goes to a ATM machine and makes a deposit, the bank credits your account with what you say you are depositing. Then you may withdraw money. I am sure that I am not the first person who has wondered if you can say you are depositing a cheque for $1000 and put nothing in the envelope, then withdraw up to the daily limit ($400 at my bank) If Joran was in a situation, early Monday morning, where he needed cash immediately but did not have the funds and knew that Papa would make everything right as soon as the bank opened, would he have done that and caused his father to make the dash to the bank imperative? Did Paul need to speak to Ruth Dijkhoff to explain the error?
It seems that Joran did not have any winnings from the casino on Sunday, so why was Papa saying that he was making a deposit of money won gambling into Joran's account

[Florida]

All I need to know is that Reality aka Diva2 was at this secret meeting and I am glad I was not invited.  WTH is going on?

Now I am really confused....
I thought Reality was a guy from England?

[Kat_Gram]

Does Reality even live in the US ?
Anyway, enough silliness for one day from me.
Need to get my stuff done and go out. I want to have the decks cleared for the Dana show. I always put stuff off until Sunday night.

[Kat_Gram]

I did see the secret agenda at a place where I cannot post a link to.
I should not make fun of it. Just that it is all over the net. Too I spy for me.

Sorry, I'm confused......
If it's all over the Net there would be a link?

Klaasend does not like us to post links to places that trash the family.
and, just because it is posted at one of those sites, does not mean any of it is for real life. I do go over to one of those sites about once a month.
If there is any substance to the events, I would rather that the info I get comes from Beth / Dave, etc via Mr. Red or via Debbie at BFN.

[Florida]

QUOTE Leslie:If Joran was in a situation, early Monday morning, where he needed cash immediately but did not have the funds and knew that Papa would make everything right as soon as the bank opened, would he have done that and caused his father to make the dash to the bank imperative? Did Paul need to speak to Ruth Dijkhoff to explain the error?


Do I have this right?
RITA is the maid....
And RUTH is who?

[Kat_Gram]

I am sure that I am not the first person who has wondered if you can say you are depositing a cheque for $1000 and put nothing in the envelope, then withdraw up to the daily limit
.
As long as it is credited, but then the bank would notice it as soon as they did the dailies.
Don't know if they take your card away or put some other restrictions on you after that.

[klaasend]

There was a meeting this weekend in the Birmingham area.  I'm not sure who all ended up attending.

It's my understanding that the so called agenda that was posted was not an agenda of this meeting at all, but of one that was planned months ago.

There were rumors that Reality and MIP6 were going to attend the meeting either in person or via teleconfrence.  I don't know if that happened or not but it sounds like it did not.

From what I've read, Dave and Robin did not stay as long as expected.  Greta was invited to something, either part of the meeting or a party and declined the invite.

Personally, I'm not sure of the value of such a meeting.

[Florida]

Thanks, KLAASEND!

[klaasend]

NOTE:

Scared Monkeys supports both Beth Holloway Twitty and Dave Holloway in their quest to seek justice for Natalee.

[Florida]

NOTE:

Scared Monkeys supports both Beth Holloway Twitty and Dave Holloway in their quest to seek justice for Natalee.

As do I!

[Leslie]

Someone leaked the agenda for the secret meeting to FOB and then RU published it.  The family should be more careful about who they trust.

[nonesuche]

Klaas-

I love your punkin   you're so swift with photoshop now it's way cool !! I also like your explanations  

Buckeye-

Thanks for the tip, he sounds like a good man for sure and I'm heartened to hear about his platform !! With the war escalating and increasing exposures there within our high-tech weaponry <tanks have a carcinogenic coating>, our vets are going to need all the support they can within healthcare.

[Florida]

Boy, oh boy.....

Dave Holloway said the Internet would solve this mystery
& I think he is right!

[LilPuma]

REMINDER:

Sunday, October 29 at 4 p.m. ET
Hosted by Greta Van Susteren

What happened to Natalee Holloway?

Muchisimas gracias!  I thought it was at 10 p.m. EST.       I would have missed it!

[nonesuche]

Boy, oh boy.....

Dave Holloway said the Internet would solve this mystery
& I think he is right!

I think it's a portion of the internet but also the digging in the weeds of these statements that tells the story here Florida, so kudos to all of you who are better at gleaning through the details to find the holes and the obvious patterns in all of this.

the evidence of and the motivation for the deceit will be their undoing, until at least a deep throat, or a confession emerges.