Lively Case Discussion #538 10/26 - 10/29/2005

[Jacqueline]

the river was deep so I swam it... damit janet....


hey SISTAH... is it still windy as all get out there??

Finally starting to die down but all day it was Like Whinnie the Poo and the Blustery day!

I hope it does here soon too.....

Oh Mrs, I only have regular VH1 no VH1 classic.
I turned on VH1 and there is a lame dating show on..

WAH.  

[mrs. red]

the river was deep so I swam it... damit janet....


hey SISTAH... is it still windy as all get out there??

Finally starting to die down but all day it was Like Whinnie the Poo and the Blustery day!

I hope it does here soon too.....

Oh Mrs, I only have regular VH1 no VH1 classic.
I turned on VH1 and there is a lame dating show on..

WAH.  

that's terrible.... they are about to show my fav part... when Tim Curry just gets there....

I see you shudder with  anti......ci....... pation!

[klaasend]

[San]

Sorta like my face hit your fist?

Yep.  They would never be able to explain her head injury.  As soon as the medical examiner does the autopsy he would know how she got the head injury.  This is why they needed to make her disappear.

[mrs. red]

Sorta like my face hit your fist?

Yep.  They would never be able to explain her head injury.  As soon as the medical examiner does the autopsy he would know how she got the head injury.  This is why they needed to make her disappear.

yep... I agree.... but blunt force tramua doesn't happen with a fall... does it?  Sy yes they had to hide the body...

[Ono]

Well, however it happened, IMO bottom line: Natalee was deceived and thought she was getting a ride back to the Holiday Inn with Joran in his taxi ..(so the subject of the fare never entered her mind)....If it was Deepak or Satish who retreived her from C & C's and then steered and walked her to the "taxi", she was most likely told that the big tall fellow sent for her ? This would be logical, as after all, Joran had been portraying himself to be just another Holiday Inn student tourist to Natalee and the Mountain Brook group.

What I don't understand about this:
Joran was portraying himself as a Dutch student sporter and may have even stated to the Bama kids that he was staying in the Holiday Inn also.
IF that was in fact Paulus sitting at the casino table talking to Nat,wouldn't Paulus had said that Joran is my son(Nat was pointing toward Joran while talking to this guy)and wouldn't Paulus had said they live on the once happy island?Or IF that was Paulus,would he had said that the vds family was visiting Aruba?IF so then that would implicate Paulus even more than he is already implicated in this case.That would mean that Paulus is involved in the PIMPs game from the start,IMO

My thinking on this ( and I have thought about it a long while ) is that perhaps Paulus casually portrayed himself to Natalee during chit chat, as that kid - over - there's visiting father, who just happened to fly in spontaneously for a very brief holiday, joining his son.....Remember, in the casino video, it appears that while Natalee is exchanging casual social & polite pleasantries with the man ( Paulus look-a-like ) sitting to her left, while she is observing the blackjack interaction, she seems to react to something to the man says, as if : "Oh, him?" and she motions or points in Joran's direction, after the Paulus guy says something to her...

[San]

Sorta like my face hit your fist?

Yep.  They would never be able to explain her head injury.  As soon as the medical examiner does the autopsy he would know how she got the head injury.  This is why they needed to make her disappear.

yep... I agree.... but blunt force tramua doesn't happen with a fall... does it?  Sy yes they had to hide the body...

Yes we usually agree.  You can even tell by the angle if she fell or not.

[Sue]

what music media plays monkey radio

[Ono]

Well, however it happened, IMO bottom line: Natalee was deceived and thought she was getting a ride back to the Holiday Inn with Joran in his taxi ..(so the subject of the fare never entered her mind)....If it was Deepak or Satish who retreived her from C & C's and then steered and walked her to the "taxi", she was most likely told that the big tall fellow sent for her ? This would be logical, as after all, Joran had been portraying himself to be just another Holiday Inn student tourist to Natalee and the Mountain Brook group.

What I don't understand about this:
Joran was portraying himself as a Dutch student sporter and may have even stated to the Bama kids that he was staying in the Holiday Inn also.
IF that was in fact Paulus sitting at the casino table talking to Nat,wouldn't Paulus had said that Joran is my son(Nat was pointing toward Joran while talking to this guy)and wouldn't Paulus had said they live on the once happy island?Or IF that was Paulus,would he had said that the vds family was visiting Aruba?IF so then that would implicate Paulus even more than he is already implicated in this case.That would mean that Paulus is involved in the PIMPs game from the start,IMO

Paul could not have told Natalee the truth that Joran was his son because then she then would have known Joran was not staying at the Holiday Inn and Natalee would have remarked on this to her friends.  "You know that tall guy says he is an exchange student from Holland - well I just met his father" Paul has proven to be a dishonest person and could have told her anything.  She might have been making a gesture towards her friend Ruth and not Joran.  
Interesting that none of her friends noticed that she had been talking to an older man at the gambling table and asked her what they had discussed or remembered if this man had a foreign accent.

I think the Paulus look a- like could have said to Natalee in chit chat that he had just decided to take a holiday and flew in from Holland to join his son....No reason to reveal the fact that they actually lived in Aruba.....he just went along with the program.

[mrs. red]

Sorta like my face hit your fist?

Yep.  They would never be able to explain her head injury.  As soon as the medical examiner does the autopsy he would know how she got the head injury.  This is why they needed to make her disappear.

yep... I agree.... but blunt force tramua doesn't happen with a fall... does it?  Sy yes they had to hide the body...

Yes we usually agree.  You can even tell by the angle if she fell or not.

yes we do..  and yes they would be able to tell by the angle I would think.....

[klaasend]

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[Ono]

If Aruban guys think that American girls are so "easy", why do they have to lie to them, try to get them drunk,  slip drugs in their drinks,  pretend their friend's car is a taxi and force themselves on them to get some action?
It seems there are enough local gals who will give oral sex on the pier and some kind of sex in the bathroom of the kareoke club and sex in the back of parked cars that they would leave those "slutty" tourists alone!

Number One: The Aruban guys aren't all that hot, from what I've seen in all these pictures we've seen over these past months.  I think they would have to resort to administering plenty of mind-numbing anesthesia to get American girls to submitt .....

Number Two:  They've already used up the local crop and are bored now ?

[Sue]

What Media do I need to listen PLEASE

[mrs. red]

What Media do I need to listen PLEASE

downloap winamp....


I think it's www.winamp.com - it's free and works well....

[SunFreak2]

Is anyone else having trouble getting the site to play tonight?  Is he on the air yet?

[Sue]

What Media do I need to listen PLEASE

downloap winamp....


I think it's www.winamp.com - it's free and works well....

I got it thank you Mrs. Red

[klaasend]

What Media do I need to listen PLEASE

Mine plays in Real Player, others use WinAmp

[mrs. red]

BTW... can someone else call tonight??  I always feel like a total deewb when I do.... and it's not fair that no one else ever gets that priviledge....  

[mrs. red]

Is anyone else having trouble getting the site to play tonight?  Is he on the air yet?

nope... I am on easily tonight...

[Sue]

 Yeah the FBI got while file