Haleigh Marie Cummings #11 4/04/09 - 4/13/09

[Fuzzball]

I just wish we would get some kind of news in this case, its gone on too long and I dont have a good feeling about this at all.  I think Haleigh is gonna be found in some of these surrounding woods around this trailor park or on Rons way to work or even somewhere towards where Misties Mother lives, I wish Mistie would finally come clean and just say what was going on that night, even if she was gone or stoned, if she would tell the truth then that would at least knock a few rumors out and give the investigators something else to look into......I dont get these people being more concered with trying to save themselves then where Haleigh ism I would have moe respect for her if she would just come clean no matter what she was doing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

She can't come clean because she and Ron killed Hayleigh.

[mlee]

Now do I have this right that there is one of many orange orchards and oranges can make drugs. There is an orange grove off of highway 17 and that is also close to the church that Ron frequents.. Are their any orange grove south of where Ron's home is that no longer harvest oranges...

that is the question I wanted to know also. I did not know the church was near an orange grove, but, it sure is interesting..   and this is the same church that orlando is in charge of?

I was looking for satsuma orange groves, and found a wikpidia account of the drug, which made me curious of where or how close those orange groves are. I wonder if searchers went to that orange grove area?   does ron still go to church there I wonder?

Do orange groves have docks?

hm, not that I have ever seen, of course if there is an orange grove near the river there, then I guess a dock could be present, even if it might be for the church, and again, I have not seen pic of church area, so I am blind there.

lets see if we can get a  close map of the church and orange grove area  ..

Do you remember in the last few nights, we discussed DSapp, and you made a comment about "if she was walked out to the lake and put on a boat.. And of course the dog scent they followed rather throws a well, into that.  Okay, what if?  this just came into my mind.. What if, she was taken by misty out to the boat area, and put on a boat.. Now, we have to remember this jo person from tenn is also related not only to misty, but quite possible to DSapp..  And it really is odd that this joe cousin was in florida at the same time.  Now, the scent the dogs could have followed, could have been set up. misty could have returned to the house, grabbed her sheet from her bed, if she does wet the bed, then the odor would be strong and misty walked the neighborhood and up to the tracks dragging that sheet.  If this were true, she was laughing at LE... taking them on wild goose chase. They watch tv too.. they may have suspected the dogs would be brought in..... Just a thought...

[Sieko]

I just wish we would get some kind of news in this case, its gone on too long and I dont have a good feeling about this at all.  I think Haleigh is gonna be found in some of these surrounding woods around this trailor park or on Rons way to work or even somewhere towards where Misties Mother lives, I wish Mistie would finally come clean and just say what was going on that night, even if she was gone or stoned, if she would tell the truth then that would at least knock a few rumors out and give the investigators something else to look into......I dont get these people being more concered with trying to save themselves then where Haleigh ism I would have moe respect for her if she would just come clean no matter what she was doing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I think so too, HH...or that Misty's brother on Tyler st. had some kind of role in disposing of Haleigh's body. No information ever came out about the dogs hitting on the dumpster?...just down the street from Misty's brother's place.

[Jerseygirl345]

Now do I have this right that there is one of many orange orchards and oranges can make drugs. There is an orange grove off of highway 17 and that is also close to the church that Ron frequents.. Are their any orange grove south of where Ron's home is that no longer harvest oranges...

that is the question I wanted to know also. I did not know the church was near an orange grove, but, it sure is interesting..   and this is the same church that orlando is in charge of?

I was looking for satsuma orange groves, and found a wikpidia account of the drug, which made me curious of where or how close those orange groves are. I wonder if searchers went to that orange grove area?   does ron still go to church there I wonder?

Do orange groves have docks?

hm, not that I have ever seen, of course if there is an orange grove near the river there, then I guess a dock could be present, even if it might be for the church, and again, I have not seen pic of church area, so I am blind there.

lets see if we can get a  close map of the church and orange grove area  ..

Do you remember in the last few nights, we discussed DSapp, and you made a comment about "if she was walked out to the lake and put on a boat.. And of course the dog scent they followed rather throws a well, into that.  Okay, what if?  this just came into my mind.. What if, she was taken by misty out to the boat area, and put on a boat.. Now, we have to remember this jo person from tenn is also related not only to misty, but quite possible to DSapp..  And it really is odd that this joe cousin was in florida at the same time.  Now, the scent the dogs could have followed, could have been set up. misty could have returned to the house, grabbed her sheet from her bed, if she does wet the bed, then the odor would be strong and misty walked the neighborhood and up to the tracks dragging that sheet.  If this were true, she was laughing at LE... taking them on wild goose chase. They watch tv too.. they may have suspected the dogs would be brought in..... Just a thought...

Good possibility...There has to be a thrid party involved in this... Ron. Fibsty and ?
 

[cookie]

Brandi....I don't see the resemblance to either parent to be honest..

what I do see in those pictures is a mother who is suffering and missing her child...despair and sadness all over her face...imo..
what I see when I see the pictures of Haleigh is a child who is much loved by all, a happy kid who loves her life and her family.....A child that needs to be back with the ones who love her and are missing her....so sad to think about really...

JMO Its not being back with ones who love her but who are responsible, mature adults
and Fibsty doesn't fit the picture andlet alone the enviroment......

what? irresponsible, immature people can't love ?
 I don't think that anyone in this group would fit the bill of being responsible or mature adults...none of them would get parent or person of the year imo.....

[Jerseygirl345]

Brandi....I don't see the resemblance to either parent to be honest..

what I do see in those pictures is a mother who is suffering and missing her child...despair and sadness all over her face...imo..
what I see when I see the pictures of Haleigh is a child who is much loved by all, a happy kid who loves her life and her family.....A child that needs to be back with the ones who love her and are missing her....so sad to think about really...

JMO Its not being back with ones who love her but who are responsible, mature adults
and Fibsty doesn't fit the picture andlet alone the enviroment......

what? irresponsible, immature people can't love ?
 I don't think that anyone in this group would fit the bill of being responsible or mature adults...none of them would get parent or person of the year imo.....

Cookie.. Read what I quoted...Fibsty is not a mature , responsibilty adult.. Let alone Ron.
I would NOT let Fibsty around my children or be in that enviroment.. Just because they say they loved Haleigh doesnt mean they are responsible , mature and a safe enviroment for the children to be in.... Haleigh went missing under Ron's watch...

[higherhopes]

The bandages on Haleighs hands are just that   bandages, I dont know what happened to cause her to have them on her hands but Im gonna ask some more questions, but yes. they are bandages, not gloves or anything else....gauze bandages is what they  are!

[GramaMonkey]

I swear there is nobody without some kind of arrest record in Satsuma. Orando Traylor is he not a pastor, and if he is not, how in the world did I think that? 

Seeing all the arrest records from the family on both sides and neighbors, the police department in Satsuma are not at a risk of loosing their jobs due to no work. 

Thanks guess no one is going to answer me so i will try and find it myself. Have a great day all and hopeing Haleigh is found soon!

Sorry, just noticed your request.  We don't have PM's here but I will see if I can find the email for AMDIN for you...klaasend@scaredmonkeys.com

Thank you all sooooooo much!

Welcome from me.  I am sorry, I did not direct you to the ..report of moderator... which is at the bottom right of the posts.  Another Monkey was a bit smarter.

[mlee]

Now do I have this right that there is one of many orange orchards and oranges can make drugs. There is an orange grove off of highway 17 and that is also close to the church that Ron frequents.. Are their any orange grove south of where Ron's home is that no longer harvest oranges...

Only three.. dS, mc, and joe...... 2 without doubt are criminal's, both are preditors. ms to ds.. he uses before he sends away, joe transport from isolated location.. he may have the connections in tenn.. child porn...  This is what the crazy lady was talking about. you know always a bit of truth in lies. Pulled up ds he and misses were in divorce issue during Haleigh gone missing. Crazy lady said that she was told about him being a bad preditor, selling girls for drugs, sending out of the country.. also selling for drugs to elements in tenn.. who better to  be involved another preditor.
that is the question I wanted to know also. I did not know the church was near an orange grove, but, it sure is interesting..   and this is the same church that orlando is in charge of?

I was looking for satsuma orange groves, and found a wikpidia account of the drug, which made me curious of where or how close those orange groves are. I wonder if searchers went to that orange grove area?   does ron still go to church there I wonder?

Do orange groves have docks?

hm, not that I have ever seen, of course if there is an orange grove near the river there, then I guess a dock could be present, even if it might be for the church, and again, I have not seen pic of church area, so I am blind there.

lets see if we can get a  close map of the church and orange grove area  ..

Do you remember in the last few nights, we discussed DSapp, and you made a comment about "if she was walked out to the lake and put on a boat.. And of course the dog scent they followed rather throws a well, into that.  Okay, what if?  this just came into my mind.. What if, she was taken by misty out to the boat area, and put on a boat.. Now, we have to remember this jo person from tenn is also related not only to misty, but quite possible to DSapp..  And it really is odd that this joe cousin was in florida at the same time.  Now, the scent the dogs could have followed, could have been set up. misty could have returned to the house, grabbed her sheet from her bed, if she does wet the bed, then the odor would be strong and misty walked the neighborhood and up to the tracks dragging that sheet.  If this were true, she was laughing at LE... taking them on wild goose chase. They watch tv too.. they may have suspected the dogs would be brought in..... Just a thought...

Good possibility...There has to be a thrid party involved in this... Ron. Fibsty and ?
 

[mlee]

Now do I have this right that there is one of many orange orchards and oranges can make drugs. There is an orange grove off of highway 17 and that is also close to the church that Ron frequents.. Are their any orange grove south of where Ron's home is that no longer harvest oranges...

Only three.. dS, mc, and joe...... 2 without doubt are criminal's, both are preditors. ms to ds.. he uses before he sends away, joe transport from isolated location.. he may have the connections in tenn.. child porn...  This is what the crazy lady was talking about. you know always a bit of truth in lies. Pulled up ds he and misses were in divorce issue during Haleigh gone missing. Crazy lady said that she was told about him being a bad preditor, selling girls for drugs, sending out of the country.. also selling for drugs to elements in tenn.. who better to  be involved another preditor.
that is the question I wanted to know also. I did not know the church was near an orange grove, but, it sure is interesting..   and this is the same church that orlando is in charge of?

I was looking for satsuma orange groves, and found a wikpidia account of the drug, which made me curious of where or how close those orange groves are. I wonder if searchers went to that orange grove area?   does ron still go to church there I wonder?

Do orange groves have docks?

hm, not that I have ever seen, of course if there is an orange grove near the river there, then I guess a dock could be present, even if it might be for the church, and again, I have not seen pic of church area, so I am blind there.

lets see if we can get a  close map of the church and orange grove area  ..

Do you remember in the last few nights, we discussed DSapp, and you made a comment about "if she was walked out to the lake and put on a boat.. And of course the dog scent they followed rather throws a well, into that.  Okay, what if?  this just came into my mind.. What if, she was taken by misty out to the boat area, and put on a boat.. Now, we have to remember this jo person from tenn is also related not only to misty, but quite possible to DSapp..  And it really is odd that this joe cousin was in florida at the same time.  Now, the scent the dogs could have followed, could have been set up. misty could have returned to the house, grabbed her sheet from her bed, if she does wet the bed, then the odor would be strong and misty walked the neighborhood and up to the tracks dragging that sheet.  If this were true, she was laughing at LE... taking them on wild goose chase. They watch tv too.. they may have suspected the dogs would be brought in..... Just a thought...

Good possibility...There has to be a thrid party involved in this... Ron. Fibsty and ?
 

Three.. DS = preditor, misty = for drugs, cousin joe = transport also preditor.  remember what the crazy lady who was posting, said she got info from ds ex wife.. ds and wife were just going through divorce when Haleigh went missing, found the court records.  He grabs little girls, uses - abuses, sells for drugs to child porn ring in Tenn, cousin joe, preditor, criminal, on probation, lives in tenn.. would he have connections?? 

[cookie]

snip from JG  :
Cookie.. Read what I quoted...Fibsty is not a mature , responsibilty adult.. Let alone Ron.
I would NOT let Fibsty around my children or be in that enviroment.. Just because they say they loved Haleigh doesnt mean they are responsible , mature and a safe enviroment for the children to be in.... Haleigh went missing under Ron's watch...

I knew what you meant..    and what I said is that I don't think that any of them are mature or responsible    Misty of course being the least responsible or mature ....
but I still think that they all love this child...jmo   

[Fuzzball]

fuzzball....not sure what they are on her hands...that is why I asked for another picture perhaps from that day, same clothes on to see if what ever was wrapped around her hands were gone..I don't think that it is bandages cause it is so loosely wrapped ...jmo..why would someone take a photo of a child with an injury that could come back to haunt them? I think that people who harm children are pretty sneaky and try to not leave bruises or marks that will show...jmo...they don't want to be caught doing  abuse obviously....

I don't share your views that ron used Haleigh as a punching bag, nor do I think that he broke her nose or dislocated her jaw ...jmo...and no, I had not noticed that she looks exactly like Crystal...will have to look closer....Even Crystal said in the beginning Haleigh is Ron's heart and that her daddy loves her ......I really don't think that the grand mothers would have put up with ron laying a hand on this child improperly for one minute...also my opinion...
but if you think that ron has done all of this, then I respect your opinion...just not the same as mine....

Maybe, but maybe they'd already gotten in trouble for it and didn't think things would get worse.

http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/haleigh-cropped2.jpg
Look at the nose. Then look at the way she's smiling to one side. She didn't always smile to one side--this is an injury. That "scratch" on her nose? That's not a scratch, it's an impact wound from where she hit the door or table with her nose. I've had an injury just like that myself before--she was thrown into a door or table.

The school nurse wrote that she fell on the playground and her nose was scratched, but the pictures show a swollen, blackened nose, abrasions all over her face, bruises, and it looks broken to me.

I quoted this from ArtHarris:

"The records show the school documented minor injuries, not major ones– scratch on the nose on Nov. 6.

“There was nothing major noted– no bleeding, no swelling, no bruising and no abrasion on the chin. But when I saw Haleigh and her black and blue bruises, I asked Crystal, ‘Omigod, what happened to her face.’ She said, ‘Ronald said she fell at school.’” Purportedly on concrete at the playground.

Her stepmother says she was suspicious because there were no abrasions on the hands or knees, as there might be if you were to try to stop a fall, nor any wrist injuries. “When most people fall, they try to brace themselves,” she told me. “I was concerned because I noticed there was still dried blood in her nose, her nose was so swollen, it looked crooked. I didn’t know if it was broken.”

Looking back, she now says those injuries didn’t reflect the school nurse’s notes of a minor cut on the nose, and that such “significant” injuries would always be documented “to make sure there were no facial fractures, jaw injuries, head trauma. Then she didn’t go to school for three days after that.”'

Also, did you look at her medical record, and her absence record from school? 11 absences in February? 8 absences in November? And no less than 2 absences in any given month?

Also, photos show that someone was grabbing this child's arms and legs hard enough to leave dark finger-shaped bruises. http://www.artharris.com/haleigh-cummings-pix/

The mother didn't show dates on all the pictures, which at first made me wonder if she was the culprit. SOMEONE was beating this kid severely, and doing it often enough that she missed tons of school. Accident-prone little kids sometimes bang their foreheads into tables, but the grandma's right--a kid puts their hands out to break a fall. There wouldn't be finger-shaped bruises, there would be impact bruises and abrasions on her arms, and NOT on her face.

Then there's Hayleigh's matter-of-fact statement that her Dad was hitting her little brother with a stick, which is where he got the big welts they asked about at school.

[GramaMonkey]

JG.. just felt like doing that...

OH, thanks cookie...my favs....
 

[Jerseygirl345]

Now do I have this right that there is one of many orange orchards and oranges can make drugs. There is an orange grove off of highway 17 and that is also close to the church that Ron frequents.. Are their any orange grove south of where Ron's home is that no longer harvest oranges...

Only three.. dS, mc, and joe...... 2 without doubt are criminal's, both are preditors. ms to ds.. he uses before he sends away, joe transport from isolated location.. he may have the connections in tenn.. child porn...  This is what the crazy lady was talking about. you know always a bit of truth in lies. Pulled up ds he and misses were in divorce issue during Haleigh gone missing. Crazy lady said that she was told about him being a bad preditor, selling girls for drugs, sending out of the country.. also selling for drugs to elements in tenn.. who better to  be involved another preditor.
that is the question I wanted to know also. I did not know the church was near an orange grove, but, it sure is interesting..   and this is the same church that orlando is in charge of?

I was looking for satsuma orange groves, and found a wikpidia account of the drug, which made me curious of where or how close those orange groves are. I wonder if searchers went to that orange grove area?   does ron still go to church there I wonder?

Do orange groves have docks?

hm, not that I have ever seen, of course if there is an orange grove near the river there, then I guess a dock could be present, even if it might be for the church, and again, I have not seen pic of church area, so I am blind there.

lets see if we can get a  close map of the church and orange grove area  ..

Do you remember in the last few nights, we discussed DSapp, and you made a comment about "if she was walked out to the lake and put on a boat.. And of course the dog scent they followed rather throws a well, into that.  Okay, what if?  this just came into my mind.. What if, she was taken by misty out to the boat area, and put on a boat.. Now, we have to remember this jo person from tenn is also related not only to misty, but quite possible to DSapp..  And it really is odd that this joe cousin was in florida at the same time.  Now, the scent the dogs could have followed, could have been set up. misty could have returned to the house, grabbed her sheet from her bed, if she does wet the bed, then the odor would be strong and misty walked the neighborhood and up to the tracks dragging that sheet.  If this were true, she was laughing at LE... taking them on wild goose chase. They watch tv too.. they may have suspected the dogs would be brought in..... Just a thought...

Good possibility...There has to be a thrid party involved in this... Ron. Fibsty and ?
 

Three.. DS = preditor, misty = for drugs, cousin joe = transport also preditor.  remember what the crazy lady who was posting, said she got info from ds ex wife.. ds and wife were just going through divorce when Haleigh went missing, found the court records.  He grabs little girls, uses - abuses, sells for drugs to child porn ring in Tenn, cousin joe, preditor, criminal, on probation, lives in tenn.. would he have connections?? 

Hmmmm. How would we connect the dots. With Joe.. DS with boat... Fibsty with drugs..  What do you think?

[mlee]

Now do I have this right that there is one of many orange orchards and oranges can make drugs. There is an orange grove off of highway 17 and that is also close to the church that Ron frequents.. Are their any orange grove south of where Ron's home is that no longer harvest oranges...

Only three.. dS, mc, and joe...... 2 without doubt are criminal's, both are preditors. ms to ds.. he uses before he sends away, joe transport from isolated location.. he may have the connections in tenn.. child porn...  This is what the crazy lady was talking about. you know always a bit of truth in lies. Pulled up ds he and misses were in divorce issue during Haleigh gone missing. Crazy lady said that she was told about him being a bad preditor, selling girls for drugs, sending out of the country.. also selling for drugs to elements in tenn.. who better to  be involved another preditor.
that is the question I wanted to know also. I did not know the church was near an orange grove, but, it sure is interesting..   and this is the same church that orlando is in charge of?

I was looking for satsuma orange groves, and found a wikpidia account of the drug, which made me curious of where or how close those orange groves are. I wonder if searchers went to that orange grove area?   does ron still go to church there I wonder?

Do orange groves have docks?

hm, not that I have ever seen, of course if there is an orange grove near the river there, then I guess a dock could be present, even if it might be for the church, and again, I have not seen pic of church area, so I am blind there.

lets see if we can get a  close map of the church and orange grove area  ..

Do you remember in the last few nights, we discussed DSapp, and you made a comment about "if she was walked out to the lake and put on a boat.. And of course the dog scent they followed rather throws a well, into that.  Okay, what if?  this just came into my mind.. What if, she was taken by misty out to the boat area, and put on a boat.. Now, we have to remember this jo person from tenn is also related not only to misty, but quite possible to DSapp..  And it really is odd that this joe cousin was in florida at the same time.  Now, the scent the dogs could have followed, could have been set up. misty could have returned to the house, grabbed her sheet from her bed, if she does wet the bed, then the odor would be strong and misty walked the neighborhood and up to the tracks dragging that sheet.  If this were true, she was laughing at LE... taking them on wild goose chase. They watch tv too.. they may have suspected the dogs would be brought in..... Just a thought...

Good possibility...There has to be a thrid party involved in this... Ron. Fibsty and ?
 

LE needs to grab all computers, already did cell.  they would have to communicate somehow, throw away cell's for ds and joe.  makes me sick to think about this..  stomach is just flipping.

[Jerseygirl345]

JG.. just felt like doing that...

OH, thanks cookie...my favs....
 

I dont feel intimidate with the 

as long as I am searching for info on finding  missing Haleigh.. I tried to help and post what I find in police records, name searches and street searches and if someone needs info and I can find I post it..

[mlee]

Now do I have this right that there is one of many orange orchards and oranges can make drugs. There is an orange grove off of highway 17 and that is also close to the church that Ron frequents.. Are their any orange grove south of where Ron's home is that no longer harvest oranges...

Only three.. dS, mc, and joe...... 2 without doubt are criminal's, both are preditors. ms to ds.. he uses before he sends away, joe transport from isolated location.. he may have the connections in tenn.. child porn...  This is what the crazy lady was talking about. you know always a bit of truth in lies. Pulled up ds he and misses were in divorce issue during Haleigh gone missing. Crazy lady said that she was told about him being a bad preditor, selling girls for drugs, sending out of the country.. also selling for drugs to elements in tenn.. who better to  be involved another preditor.
that is the question I wanted to know also. I did not know the church was near an orange grove, but, it sure is interesting..   and this is the same church that orlando is in charge of?

I was looking for satsuma orange groves, and found a wikpidia account of the drug, which made me curious of where or how close those orange groves are. I wonder if searchers went to that orange grove area?   does ron still go to church there I wonder?

Do orange groves have docks?

hm, not that I have ever seen, of course if there is an orange grove near the river there, then I guess a dock could be present, even if it might be for the church, and again, I have not seen pic of church area, so I am blind there.

lets see if we can get a  close map of the church and orange grove area  ..

Do you remember in the last few nights, we discussed DSapp, and you made a comment about "if she was walked out to the lake and put on a boat.. And of course the dog scent they followed rather throws a well, into that.  Okay, what if?  this just came into my mind.. What if, she was taken by misty out to the boat area, and put on a boat.. Now, we have to remember this jo person from tenn is also related not only to misty, but quite possible to DSapp..  And it really is odd that this joe cousin was in florida at the same time.  Now, the scent the dogs could have followed, could have been set up. misty could have returned to the house, grabbed her sheet from her bed, if she does wet the bed, then the odor would be strong and misty walked the neighborhood and up to the tracks dragging that sheet.  If this were true, she was laughing at LE... taking them on wild goose chase. They watch tv too.. they may have suspected the dogs would be brought in..... Just a thought...

Good possibility...There has to be a thrid party involved in this... Ron. Fibsty and ?
 

Three.. DS = preditor, misty = for drugs, cousin joe = transport also preditor.  remember what the crazy lady who was posting, said she got info from ds ex wife.. ds and wife were just going through divorce when Haleigh went missing, found the court records.  He grabs little girls, uses - abuses, sells for drugs to child porn ring in Tenn, cousin joe, preditor, criminal, on probation, lives in tenn.. would he have connections?? 

Hmmmm. How would we connect the dots. With Joe.. DS with boat... Fibsty with drugs..  What do you think?

I am sick to my stomach, and you will need to grab your heart..

Middle Tennessee Authorities Bring Down Child Porn Ring

Posted: Jan 18, 2009 10:40 PM EST

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Middle Tennessee Authorities Bring Down Child Porn Ring
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Gary Salles
 
 
 
 
 
 
WINCHESTER, Tenn.- A major, international child porn operation shutdown right here in middle Tennessee.

Two male suspects stepped right into a police trap when they allegedly tried to sell countless, illegal images a teenage boy. Our Brent Frazier is just back from Winchester, in Franklin County where the suspects took the bait.

Lead suspect Gary Salles claims to be a mentor to gay and lesbian adolescents. He's a dance club photographer, by trade and according to investigators a self professed pedophile.

Online, Gary Salles bills himself as a bona fide photographer, but it's the personal, even pornographic pictures, according to police, that got the 57 year old busted in Winchester, Tennessee.

"To see the videos, firsthand, that he was sharing, that was exciting to him. For example, a 4-year-old being raped, molested. Ya know, he would really get excited," said Chief Dennis Young, Winchester, TN, Police Department.

Police Chief Dennis Young was monitoring surveillance video Saturday inside a Winchester motel when suspects Gary Salles and Mike Lattimore drove from Atlanta to offer up drugs, more than 450 computer files, images of children engaged in sexual acts, and according to police, a 13 or 14 year old boy for sale for $10,000, a 13 or 14 year old boy for sale for $10,000.

"These are real life kids being abused," said Chief Young.

The chief says Salles never once suspected the would-be buyers were undercover investigators.

Salles and his suspected partner are at the Franklin County Jail. The suspected ring leader of this kiddie porn ring with international appeal, won't find freedom anytime soon, at least not if the chief has his way.

"I don't believe this man is going to see the light of day again if we have anything to do with it," said Chief Young.

The chief also claims Gary Salles is a major producer of the crystal meth being supplied to middle Tennessee. He allegedly brought $2,000 worth to Saturday's bogus buy in Winchester.

The chief is crediting his department, the FBI, and giving a big pat on the back to Franklin Police Department's Internet Crimes Against Children unit.

Suspects Gary Salles and Mike Lattimore will be taken to Chattanooga first thing Tuesday morning where they'll be arraigned and charged in federal court.

[GramaMonkey]

Brandi....I don't see the resemblance to either parent to be honest..

what I do see in those pictures is a mother who is suffering and missing her child...despair and sadness all over her face...imo..
what I see when I see the pictures of Haleigh is a child who is much loved by all, a happy kid who loves her life and her family.....A child that needs to be back with the ones who love her and are missing her....so sad to think about really...

JMO Its not being back with ones who love her but who are responsible, mature adults
and Fibsty doesn't fit the picture andlet alone the enviroment......

what? irresponsible, immature people can't love ?
 I don't think that anyone in this group would fit the bill of being responsible or mature adults...none of them would get parent or person of the year imo.....

Cookie.. Read what I quoted...Fibsty is not a mature , responsibilty adult.. Let alone Ron.
I would NOT let Fibsty around my children or be in that enviroment.. Just because they say they loved Haleigh doesnt mean they are responsible , mature and a safe enviroment for the children to be in.... Haleigh went missing under Ron's watch...

I think Fibsty played the bullshit roll in front of Teresa and GGSykes.  This way they would let ...Ron... know that she would be the choice for a NEW MOM to his children.  She was playing the sweet, innocent, role model of a ..mom to be. 

Maybe Fibsty is covering for Gr Neves, maybe she is involved in drug deals, and of course working at the Sheriff's office....hmmmm.....mummmmm is the word.  Of course, with her working there, would be the last person that the Sheriff's office would connect.  But, hopefully the new Sheriff, has some excellent vision and is able to see thru this crazy, drug infested family.

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Fuzzball....I guess that it just depends on who/what you want to believe happened..
I will wait to get all the facts from the LE before I make a judgment that someone has beat their child and or murdered them....if Ron did do anything to Haleigh, then I want him punished...but until I know for sure, I can't be comfortable with accusations that none of  us really know to be true or untrue.....but I respect how you feel...if that is what you believe to be true....it just isn't how I feel...I think that all the facts will come out and then hopefully we will all know what really has happened..

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fuzzball....not sure what they are on her hands...that is why I asked for another picture perhaps from that day, same clothes on to see if what ever was wrapped around her hands were gone..I don't think that it is bandages cause it is so loosely wrapped ...jmo..why would someone take a photo of a child with an injury that could come back to haunt them? I think that people who harm children are pretty sneaky and try to not leave bruises or marks that will show...jmo...they don't want to be caught doing  abuse obviously....

I don't share your views that ron used Haleigh as a punching bag, nor do I think that he broke her nose or dislocated her jaw ...jmo...and no, I had not noticed that she looks exactly like Crystal...will have to look closer....Even Crystal said in the beginning Haleigh is Ron's heart and that her daddy loves her ......I really don't think that the grand mothers would have put up with ron laying a hand on this child improperly for one minute...also my opinion...
but if you think that ron has done all of this, then I respect your opinion...just not the same as mine....

Maybe, but maybe they'd already gotten in trouble for it and didn't think things would get worse.

http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/haleigh-cropped2.jpg
Look at the nose. Then look at the way she's smiling to one side. She didn't always smile to one side--this is an injury. That "scratch" on her nose? That's not a scratch, it's an impact wound from where she hit the door or table with her nose. I've had an injury just like that myself before--she was thrown into a door or table.

The school nurse wrote that she fell on the playground and her nose was scratched, but the pictures show a swollen, blackened nose, abrasions all over her face, bruises, and it looks broken to me.

I quoted this from ArtHarris:

"The records show the school documented minor injuries, not major ones– scratch on the nose on Nov. 6.

“There was nothing major noted– no bleeding, no swelling, no bruising and no abrasion on the chin. But when I saw Haleigh and her black and blue bruises, I asked Crystal, ‘Omigod, what happened to her face.’ She said, ‘Ronald said she fell at school.’” Purportedly on concrete at the playground.

Her stepmother says she was suspicious because there were no abrasions on the hands or knees, as there might be if you were to try to stop a fall, nor any wrist injuries. “When most people fall, they try to brace themselves,” she told me. “I was concerned because I noticed there was still dried blood in her nose, her nose was so swollen, it looked crooked. I didn’t know if it was broken.”

Looking back, she now says those injuries didn’t reflect the school nurse’s notes of a minor cut on the nose, and that such “significant” injuries would always be documented “to make sure there were no facial fractures, jaw injuries, head trauma. Then she didn’t go to school for three days after that.”'

Also, did you look at her medical record, and her absence record from school? 11 absences in February? 8 absences in November? And no less than 2 absences in any given month?

Also, photos show that someone was grabbing this child's arms and legs hard enough to leave dark finger-shaped bruises. http://www.artharris.com/haleigh-cummings-pix/

The mother didn't show dates on all the pictures, which at first made me wonder if she was the culprit. SOMEONE was beating this kid severely, and doing it often enough that she missed tons of school. Accident-prone little kids sometimes bang their foreheads into tables, but the grandma's right--a kid puts their hands out to break a fall. There wouldn't be finger-shaped bruises, there would be impact bruises and abrasions on her arms, and NOT on her face.

Then there's Hayleigh's matter-of-fact statement that her Dad was hitting her little brother with a stick, which is where he got the big welts they asked about at school.

Fuzzball~ITA, it's just common sense that kids would use their hands to break a fall, also her knees should have been skinned up too..........Also agree about the stick looking marks on JR. I just read an article about the dad in Washington State who killed all 5 kids and then himself, the neighbors had called repeatedly to DCS, once again they failed to protect the children who now await a burial



O/T~A huge thank you and gratitude for all those praying for Elijah.....he is pnuemonia free and stablew right now. He is such a tiny miracle and I know the prayers are working!