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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 - 4/16/09 (Read 183081 times)
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Kermit
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #340 on:
April 10, 2009, 10:01:12 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
Kermit -
I'd like to put this on the timeline... but am unsure if I've understood it correctly. Does this mean that on 1/21/2008 Kyle met with Mos?
Is there anything else you can share about this meeting? Would it be safe to assume that Silvetti and Richardson were there too?
Quote
10 days before the Ranger Rover confession Kyle met downtown in public with Mos
(date tapes were released, Jan. 31 st is when Beth saw them with DeVries)
Kyle said 10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes he met with Mos downtown in public.
Hans asked Kyle when he was going home and Kyle said you tell me. To which Hans hesitated.
Kyle said "It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and
looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?
He looked around for anyone watching or listening leaned forward and said into my ear. "ten days". He then
turned and walked way without saying another word."
"Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes."
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Blue Moon
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #341 on:
April 10, 2009, 10:06:41 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on April 10, 2009, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
Kermit -
I'd like to put this on the timeline... but am unsure if I've understood it correctly. Does this mean that on 1/21/2008 Kyle met with Mos?
Is there anything else you can share about this meeting? Would it be safe to assume that Silvetti and Richardson were there too?
Quote
10 days before the Ranger Rover confession Kyle met downtown in public with Mos
(date tapes were released, Jan. 31 st is when Beth saw them with DeVries)
Kyle said 10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes he met with Mos downtown in public.
Hans asked Kyle when he was going home and Kyle said you tell me. To which Hans hesitated.
Kyle said "It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and
looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?
He looked around for anyone watching or listening leaned forward and said into my ear. "ten days". He then
turned and walked way without saying another word."
"Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes."
What was Mos meeting with Kyle for? Kyle was just a ROV operator not the owner of the ship.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 09:55:23 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 10, 2009, 09:17:13 PM
Monkeys ... I wish you could all come to the safety of the Fraser Valley of British Columbia and stay with me until these storms have passed.
Magnolia and AZSunny could bring their spiked sweet tea and ... we could all laugh and laugh and laugh while we shared stories.
Hugs
Janet
Janet, you have given me a new comforting thought to enjoy during my next trip to the Storm Room!
In my own mind's eye I'm certain that Anna will be there too... as I believe that the spiked sweet tea, laughing and laughing and laughing while sharing stories with Magnolia, AZSunny, and Tamikosmom in the beautiful Fraser Valley would inevitably lead to a very exciting game of Scrabble!
May we have ham, yogurt and hot cross buns?
You bet!
... with scrambled eggs and hashed browns. Hubby may whip up some sushi rolls and ... then there is Safeway's carrot cake I could pick up lickity split. A pot of Tim Horton's coffee and a pot of green tea would also be where it was at. Magnolia and AZSunny could secretly spike those along with the sweet tea.
I hope you are having a good day
Lifesong.
Janet
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 10:22:08 PM »
Prayers and blessings for all those in the storm areas...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM »
It has been a humbling day, the kind that stirs up a great reverence and a most powerful sense of gratitude. In some ways, a very fitting Good Friday.
Local News sites:
WSMV Channel 4
/ NBC Affiliate / Nashville, TN
WTVF Newschannel 5
/ CBS Affiliate / Nashville, TN
WKRN Channel 2
/ ABC Affiliate / Nashville, TN
Newspapers:
The Tennessean
/ Nashville-MidState daily
The Daily News Journal
/ Murfreesboro daily
TORNADO UPDATE: Mother and infant daughter dead, 41 injured, 250 homes damaged or destroyed
Eyewitnesses: At least 1 tornado and possibly 4 swept through county
Full Story
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 10:37:39 PM »
HAPPY EASTER TO ALL THE MONKEYS
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on April 10, 2009, 10:37:39 PM
HAPPY EASTER TO ALL THE MONKEYS
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
Back at ya', KTF.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 10:40:31 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on April 10, 2009, 10:37:39 PM
HAPPY EASTER TO ALL THE MONKEYS
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
Thank You KTF...Happy Easter To You And Yours Too!
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May 2010 Bring Natalee Home to Rest In Peace!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 10:41:55 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
It has been a humbling day, the kind that stirs up a great reverence and a most powerful sense of gratitude. In some ways, a very fitting Good Friday.
Local News sites:
WSMV Channel 4
/ NBC Affiliate / Nashville, TN
WTVF Newschannel 5
/ CBS Affiliate / Nashville, TN
WKRN Channel 2
/ ABC Affiliate / Nashville, TN
Newspapers:
The Tennessean
/ Nashville-MidState daily
The Daily News Journal
/ Murfreesboro daily
TORNADO UPDATE: Mother and infant daughter dead, 41 injured, 250 homes damaged or destroyed
Eyewitnesses: At least 1 tornado and possibly 4 swept through county
Full Story
Thanks Lifesong.
Prayers for all those that lost their homes and those killed or injured. Here I am sitting in Arizona, and dreading the thunderstorm that should arrive this weekend. We need the rain, but I hate the lightening. I wouldn't do well in your area. Thanks for the news.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #349 on:
April 10, 2009, 10:42:12 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on April 10, 2009, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
Kermit -
I'd like to put this on the timeline... but am unsure if I've understood it correctly. Does this mean that on 1/21/2008 Kyle met with Mos?
Is there anything else you can share about this meeting? Would it be safe to assume that Silvetti and Richardson were there too?
Quote
10 days before the Ranger Rover confession Kyle met downtown in public with Mos
(date tapes were released, Jan. 31 st is when Beth saw them with DeVries)
Kyle said 10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes he met with Mos downtown in public.
Hans asked Kyle when he was going home and Kyle said you tell me. To which Hans hesitated.
Kyle said "It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and
looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?
He looked around for anyone watching or listening leaned forward and said into my ear. "ten days". He then
turned and walked way without saying another word."
"Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes."
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 10:42:17 PM »
Keepthefaith
You are also invited to the gathering of Monkeys who are taking refuge from the Fraser Valley. I know that you could be here lickity split. However ... there are often lineups at that border. Make sure to use the truck crossing.
Happy Easter
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #351 on:
April 10, 2009, 10:47:30 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 10, 2009, 10:42:17 PM
Keepthefaith
You are also invited to the gathering of Monkeys who are taking refuge from the Fraser Valley. I know that you could be here lickity split. However ... there are often lineups at that border. Make sure to use the truck crossing.
Happy Easter
Janet
Be careful what you ask for Janet..I will call Klaas to load up the big yellow Monkey bus with all of us Monkey's..It would be monkeyrrific!!!
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Lifesong
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #352 on:
April 10, 2009, 10:54:01 PM »
Quote from: hotping on April 10, 2009, 10:42:12 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 10, 2009, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
Kermit -
I'd like to put this on the timeline... but am unsure if I've understood it correctly. Does this mean that on 1/21/2008 Kyle met with Mos?
Is there anything else you can share about this meeting? Would it be safe to assume that Silvetti and Richardson were there too?
Quote
10 days before the Ranger Rover confession Kyle met downtown in public with Mos
(date tapes were released, Jan. 31 st is when Beth saw them with DeVries)
Kyle said 10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes he met with Mos downtown in public.
Hans asked Kyle when he was going home and Kyle said you tell me. To which Hans hesitated.
Kyle said "It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and
looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?
He looked around for anyone watching or listening leaned forward and said into my ear. "ten days". He then
turned and walked way without saying another word."
"Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes."
Thank you, Kermit!
I wonder if it was an actual meeting or if Kyle just ran into Mos downtown... the part about Mos just walking away without another word makes me think it could be the latter.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Quote from: klaasend on April 10, 2009, 06:38:13 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on April 10, 2009, 06:24:09 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 10, 2009, 04:09:44 PM
Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW
Documents Filed (Filing dates listed in descending order)
Click on any of the below link(s) to see documents filed on or before the date indicated:
08/25/2008 12/26/2007 07/25/2007 01/19/2007
04/06/2009
Objection Document (TO THE DECLS. OF JESSICA L. LESNIEWSKI, DEEPAK KALPOE AND SATISH KALPOE, ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent
04/01/2009
Declaration (OF JESSICA L. LESNIEWSKI, ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner
04/01/2009 Proof of Service
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner
Two documents in PDF format below. Note I'm testing a new watermark for PDF's that San showed me
Great watermarks Klaas
. Looks like the lawyer for Deepak and Satish messed up and now is using an underhanded way to get this before the court even if it is not permissable. JMO
SAN found that program! It's frustrating because nobody else is willing to pay for these documents except us. Others are welcome to view them and post on their websites but copying won't be quite as easy as it was
I'm behind, but just want to say 'I love San'...she's the best.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Thanx MuffyBee & Hotping...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #355 on:
April 10, 2009, 11:00:31 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: hotping on April 10, 2009, 10:42:12 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 10, 2009, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
Kermit -
I'd like to put this on the timeline... but am unsure if I've understood it correctly. Does this mean that on 1/21/2008 Kyle met with Mos?
Is there anything else you can share about this meeting? Would it be safe to assume that Silvetti and Richardson were there too?
Quote
10 days before the Ranger Rover confession Kyle met downtown in public with Mos
(date tapes were released, Jan. 31 st is when Beth saw them with DeVries)
Kyle said 10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes
he met with Mos downtown in public.
Hans asked Kyle when he was going home and Kyle said you tell me. To which Hans hesitated.
Kyle said "It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and
looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?
He looked around for anyone watching or listening leaned forward and said into my ear. "ten days". He then
turned and walked way without saying another word."
"Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes."
Thank you, Kermit!
I wonder if it was an actual meeting or if Kyle just ran into Mos downtown... the part about Mos just walking away without another word makes me think it could be the latter.
Lifesong...I'm not sure if it was by chance or prearranged....by reading the bolded above it sounds like Mos
might
have arranged the public meeting... JMO
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #356 on:
April 10, 2009, 11:03:23 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on April 10, 2009, 10:01:12 PM
Kyle said 10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes he met with Mos downtown in public.
Hans asked Kyle when he was going home and Kyle said you tell me. To which Hans hesitated.
Kyle said "It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and
looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?
He looked around for anyone watching or listening leaned forward and said into my ear. "ten days". He then
turned and walked way without saying another word."
"Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes."
Wait a minute...
The more I think about this, the less sense it makes...right?
Why would they be leaving in 10 days upon the release of the tapes, when Joran says on those tapes that she's
in the ocean
?
That doesn't even make a lick of sense.
Does it?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 11:07:18 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on April 10, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 10, 2009, 10:42:17 PM
Keepthefaith
You are also invited to the gathering of Monkeys who are taking refuge from the Fraser Valley. I know that you could be here lickity split. However ... there are often lineups at that border. Make sure to use the truck crossing.
Happy Easter
Janet
Be careful what you ask for Janet..I will call Klaas to load up the big yellow Monkey bus with all of us Monkey's..It would be monkeyrrific!!!
Count me in on all of the gathering! And little IBE who has always wanted a monkey get together.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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Reply #358 on:
April 10, 2009, 11:11:02 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on April 10, 2009, 11:03:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 10, 2009, 10:01:12 PM
Kyle said 10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes he met with Mos downtown in public.
Hans asked Kyle when he was going home and Kyle said you tell me. To which Hans hesitated.
Kyle said "It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and
looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?
He looked around for anyone watching or listening leaned forward and said into my ear. "ten days". He then
turned and walked way without saying another word."
"Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes."
Wait a minute...
The more I think about this, the less sense it makes...right?
Why would they be leaving in 10 days upon the release of the tapes, when Joran says on those tapes that she's
in the ocean
?
That doesn't even make a lick of sense.
Does it?
I Agree Lifesong it makes absolutely no sense...about what date would this have been?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #815 4/8/09 -
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April 10, 2009, 11:13:52 PM »
Quote from: Anna on April 10, 2009, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on April 10, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 10, 2009, 10:42:17 PM
Keepthefaith
You are also invited to the gathering of Monkeys who are taking refuge from the Fraser Valley. I know that you could be here lickity split. However ... there are often lineups at that border. Make sure to use the truck crossing.
Happy Easter
Janet
Be careful what you ask for Janet..I will call Klaas to load up the big yellow Monkey bus with all of us Monkey's..It would be monkeyrrific!!!
Count me in on all of the gathering! And little IBE who has always wanted a monkey get together.
And we can all do the
HINKY!
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===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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