Caylee Marie Anthony #121 4/07/09 - 4/10/09

[Cappuccino]

Source: Judge Filed Complaint Against Casey's Attorney

Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez's former private eye, Dominic Casey. He's the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee.
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Eyewitness News is still working to find out the exact complaint in Conway's investigation.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html

  So does that mean that the judge won't be the judge when this comes to trial? Capp? Anyone?

It does not mean Judge "Stan the man" Strickland would be recused from the case.   He is legally obligated to report any violations.  Its an ethical obligation to file this complaint, not a sign of prejudice.

I agree its for Brad "Conman" Conway, I made a new post on 15 to clarify.  There just happens to be one filed against Macaluso as well in California.

[Puzzler]

I knew it would get more and more convoluted as it gets closer and closer to the October trial date; however, it's still six months away!

You know, you couldn't make this stuff up!

The cast of characters are what they are and it's coming out even sooner than I thought.

[trimmonthelake]

GramaMonkey,I like Kathi too.

[Cappuccino]

I knew it would get more and more convoluted as it gets closer and closer to the October trial date; however, it's still six months away!

You know, you couldn't make this stuff up!

The cast of characters are what they are and it's coming out even sooner than I thought.

I think we are going to find ourselves seeing the trial actually end up being about a month away from the date tentatively set

[peanut]

Source: Judge Filed Complaint Against Casey's Attorney

Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez's former private eye, Dominic Casey. He's the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee.
...
Eyewitness News is still working to find out the exact complaint in Conway's investigation.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html

  So does that mean that the judge won't be the judge when this comes to trial? Capp? Anyone?

It does not mean Judge "Stan the man" Strickland would be recused from the case.   He is legally obligated to report any violations.  Its an ethical obligation to file this complaint, not a sign of prejudice.

I agree its for Brad "Conman" Conway, I made a new post on 15 to clarify.  There just happens to be one filed against Macaluso as well in California.

a new one...or are you referring to the mishandling of client funds from some time back?

[Puzzler]

Wonder if KC knows yet that the judge filed a complaint against her little Jose?  tee hee

Cindy - I'm wondering how she'd keeping her head from exploding off her shoulders?   

[Puzzler]

I knew it would get more and more convoluted as it gets closer and closer to the October trial date; however, it's still six months away!

You know, you couldn't make this stuff up!

The cast of characters are what they are and it's coming out even sooner than I thought.

I think we are going to find ourselves seeing the trial actually end up being about a month away from the date tentatively set

Yes, unless it gets so bad that KC must get a new attorney.  I don't want that to happen, though, because the trial would be put off until 2010.

[joesamas mama]

Please, no nanners, but I just wanted to comment on something that's been in my head since listening to AD's and other people's interviews.  So many of Casey friends and the Grunds have said that something changed in Casey after she had Caylee.  Maybe Casey was 'nuts' before Caylee, but her friends saw a huge change in her after the baby was born.  But, and I know Casey has to be held accountable for what she did, of course, but just listening to the tapes of everyone now and hearing them say that Cindy was the leader in the home; she de-manned George, she would call Casey up when she was out with Annie, demanding to know where she was and when she's coming home and just seeing how Cindy is on tv...I can't help but hold Cindy accountable for a lot of this situation.  You see teenagers kill their abusive parent on some of these crime shows...them saying they just couldn't take the abuse anymore, well, it sounds to me like Cindy is a mental abuser and she took George's self-esteem from him and maybe did something mentally to Casey (no nanners!)....and Lee, man, when he talks he sounds exactly like Cindy.  He goes on and on and says nothing.  I am just seeing the mental abuse Cindy has put on her family.  And I can't help to think that she would have done the same thing to Caylee and didn't somebody say Casey didn't want Caylee growing up in that environment?  I thought I heard that.  But anyway, I just wanted to say, yes, Casey has to be held accountable for what she did, that's for sure and my opinion of her doesn't change, but Cindy, in my opinion, I think Cindy pushed so much that Casey learned how to lie  as to try not to get her mom mad when she was younger and then as she got older, she just continued lying.  I see that Cindy did not teach Casey how to be a young mother.  Instead, Cindy wanted Caylee for herself.  That was Cindy's first mistake.  And to tell Casey she was an unfit mother all the time and 'making' Casey be a  mom when she wanted to give the baby up for adoption...she set Casey up to fail from the get go.  Why didn't Cindy just adopt Caylee from the beginning, that way it would have freed Casey up to go do whatever she wanted to do and it would have given Cindy the child she wanted.  I really hope Cindy knows she had a huge part in Caylee's death.  Because I truly believes she does and I blame George too for not being a man and putting Cindy in her place.  By that I mean, override her decisions if need be, etc.  Okay, that's enough...I hope you all understand what I'm saying.

No nanners from me, you just wrote exactly to a tee what I thought all along. Cindy is a pushy, manipulative women and I blame her almost as much as I blame KC. JMO JSM

I agree with you...although...while reading and agreeing, I did have another thought....

what if - Cindy just wanted a grandchild and she didn't want KC to abort or give away her grandchild (how would most people feel if they knew in advance that their grandchild was going to be done away with?)

and...so, Cindy tried to make KC do the right thing and bring her child into the world and the grandparents would help.

along the way...Cindy realized KC didn't want a kid and, since it was her grandchild, Cindy became very protective over the child even before it was born.

I can understand wanting your grandchild.  BUT when the child was here....from day one...it was a fight.  What do you do then?  Just saying....maybe there's more to this book than the cover.

Cindy didn't know KC was pregnant until she was 7 months along. There is no way she could have aborted that baby that far along. So I don't think that would have been an issue, KC was pregnant and was having the baby. So abortion was not even an option.

Cindy tried to make KC do the right thing, keeping the baby and letting grandparents help? Cindy wanted control over KC and the baby. If Cindy wanted to do right for the BABY, she could have let KC give the baby up for adoption.

It was a fight from day one, and Cindy knew and KC knew from day one it would be a fight. But instead of doing the right thing for Caylee, they let Caylee be the pawn in their crazy hatred of each other. JMO JSM

 

[peanut]

I knew it would get more and more convoluted as it gets closer and closer to the October trial date; however, it's still six months away!

You know, you couldn't make this stuff up!

The cast of characters are what they are and it's coming out even sooner than I thought.

I think we are going to find ourselves seeing the trial actually end up being about a month away from the date tentatively set

Yes, unless it gets so bad that KC must get a new attorney.  I don't want that to happen, though, because the trial would be put off until 2010.

i have always believed that just like in the oj case baez will be replaced with someone with far more trial experience before this comes to trial. in ojs case robert shapiro was pushed to the side as first chair by johnny cochran.

[joesamas mama]

It is chilling to me to hear Annie and others say that Cindy phoned Casey all the time and asked where she was, what she was doing, when she was coming home or just ordering her to come home.  I think Cindy is a total control freak.  Annie said Cindy would tell Casey to "come home, I want to go to bed."  Why couldn't she go to bed whether Casey was there or not?  The baby surely would be sleeping.  There is no doubt that Casey wanted a life of her own, but what youhng woman does not?  Cindy was like a giant octopus, always controlling, threatening, advising and then turning on the sugar and sweetness.  She complained to her coworkers about having to keep Caylee so much, but then she threatened Casey with taking full custody of the child.  Just what did Cindy want?  Casey is a problem, no doubt, but I think Cindy caused what happened to Caylee.  She just badgered Casey too much.  It pushed a girl who was already a bit wacky right over the edge.  You cannot play those kinds of emotional games or drama queen games without consequences.

THANKS HUDSUNN, that is what I have been trying to say, but I don't say it as well as you do!

[Cappuccino]

Source: Judge Filed Complaint Against Casey's Attorney

Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez's former private eye, Dominic Casey. He's the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee.
...
Eyewitness News is still working to find out the exact complaint in Conway's investigation.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html

  So does that mean that the judge won't be the judge when this comes to trial? Capp? Anyone?

It does not mean Judge "Stan the man" Strickland would be recused from the case.   He is legally obligated to report any violations.  Its an ethical obligation to file this complaint, not a sign of prejudice.

I agree its for Brad "Conman" Conway, I made a new post on 15 to clarify.  There just happens to be one filed against Macaluso as well in California.

a new one...or are you referring to the mishandling of client funds from some time back?

Yes, one and the same, not a new one.    He also has a lawsuit pending against him.   Actually, our Blink has an article on it
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/12/casey-anthony-new-attorney-todd-macaluso-under-investigation-in-cali/

[joesamas mama]

What a complete and utter mess, and the circus just gets bigger and bigger 

YEPPERS!   

[Puzzler]

Please, no nanners, but I just wanted to comment on something that's been in my head since listening to AD's and other people's interviews.  So many of Casey friends and the Grunds have said that something changed in Casey after she had Caylee.  Maybe Casey was 'nuts' before Caylee, but her friends saw a huge change in her after the baby was born.  But, and I know Casey has to be held accountable for what she did, of course, but just listening to the tapes of everyone now and hearing them say that Cindy was the leader in the home; she de-manned George, she would call Casey up when she was out with Annie, demanding to know where she was and when she's coming home and just seeing how Cindy is on tv...I can't help but hold Cindy accountable for a lot of this situation.  You see teenagers kill their abusive parent on some of these crime shows...them saying they just couldn't take the abuse anymore, well, it sounds to me like Cindy is a mental abuser and she took George's self-esteem from him and maybe did something mentally to Casey (no nanners!)....and Lee, man, when he talks he sounds exactly like Cindy.  He goes on and on and says nothing.  I am just seeing the mental abuse Cindy has put on her family.  And I can't help to think that she would have done the same thing to Caylee and didn't somebody say Casey didn't want Caylee growing up in that environment?  I thought I heard that.  But anyway, I just wanted to say, yes, Casey has to be held accountable for what she did, that's for sure and my opinion of her doesn't change, but Cindy, in my opinion, I think Cindy pushed so much that Casey learned how to lie  as to try not to get her mom mad when she was younger and then as she got older, she just continued lying.  I see that Cindy did not teach Casey how to be a young mother.  Instead, Cindy wanted Caylee for herself.  That was Cindy's first mistake.  And to tell Casey she was an unfit mother all the time and 'making' Casey be a  mom when she wanted to give the baby up for adoption...she set Casey up to fail from the get go.  Why didn't Cindy just adopt Caylee from the beginning, that way it would have freed Casey up to go do whatever she wanted to do and it would have given Cindy the child she wanted.  I really hope Cindy knows she had a huge part in Caylee's death.  Because I truly believes she does and I blame George too for not being a man and putting Cindy in her place.  By that I mean, override her decisions if need be, etc.  Okay, that's enough...I hope you all understand what I'm saying.

No nanners from me, you just wrote exactly to a tee what I thought all along. Cindy is a pushy, manipulative women and I blame her almost as much as I blame KC. JMO JSM

I agree with you...although...while reading and agreeing, I did have another thought....

what if - Cindy just wanted a grandchild and she didn't want KC to abort or give away her grandchild (how would most people feel if they knew in advance that their grandchild was going to be done away with?)

and...so, Cindy tried to make KC do the right thing and bring her child into the world and the grandparents would help.

along the way...Cindy realized KC didn't want a kid and, since it was her grandchild, Cindy became very protective over the child even before it was born.

I can understand wanting your grandchild.  BUT when the child was here....from day one...it was a fight.  What do you do then?  Just saying....maybe there's more to this book than the cover.

Cindy didn't know KC was pregnant until she was 7 months along. There is no way she could have aborted that baby that far along. So I don't think that would have been an issue, KC was pregnant and was having the baby. So abortion was not even an option.

Cindy tried to make KC do the right thing, keeping the baby and letting grandparents help? Cindy wanted control over KC and the baby. If Cindy wanted to do right for the BABY, she could have let KC give the baby up for adoption.

It was a fight from day one, and Cindy knew and KC knew from day one it would be a fight. But instead of doing the right thing for Caylee, they let Caylee be the pawn in their crazy hatred of each other. JMO JSM

 

I must be confusing the abortion part with KC talking about it to one of her girlfriends.

I agree, it was a fight from day one and that fight's not over yet. 

IMO, Cindy does have the problems you've express; however, I think that KC, too, had her own problems.  Once Caylee was born, she became the innocent between the two beasts.
Neither one, both Cindy and KC, just couldn't stop the fight.

I can see where KC would rebel against an over-bearing parent; I can also see where KC's actions, especially with the child, would cause an over-bearing parent to become more over-bearing.   

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's understandable how both KC and Cindy could feel...anyone would...however, both of them seem to go way beyond what normal people do - now we can see the end result...it is what it is.

A murderering mother and a lying, scheming, controlling grandmother - both sociopaths IMO.

[joesamas mama]

Going to throw a slab of meat on the table.I'll be back.

  What kind of meat Trimm? I'm hungry. Can I have the leftovers? 

[peanut]

It is chilling to me to hear Annie and others say that Cindy phoned Casey all the time and asked where she was, what she was doing, when she was coming home or just ordering her to come home.  I think Cindy is a total control freak.  Annie said Cindy would tell Casey to "come home, I want to go to bed."  Why couldn't she go to bed whether Casey was there or not?  The baby surely would be sleeping.  There is no doubt that Casey wanted a life of her own, but what youhng woman does not?  Cindy was like a giant octopus, always controlling, threatening, advising and then turning on the sugar and sweetness.  She complained to her coworkers about having to keep Caylee so much, but then she threatened Casey with taking full custody of the child.  Just what did Cindy want?  Casey is a problem, no doubt, but I think Cindy caused what happened to Caylee.  She just badgered Casey too much.  It pushed a girl who was already a bit wacky right over the edge.  You cannot play those kinds of emotional games or drama queen games without consequences.

i have to respectfully disagree...cindy is the drama queen. casey is a stone cold sociopath and the blame rests squarely on her shoulders imo. no matter how odious i may find cindy i think trying to blame her or anyone else in hindsight does a grave disservice to caylee and lessens the severe gravity of what casey did.

[MuffyBee]

Going to throw a slab of meat on the table.I'll be back.

  What kind of meat Trimm? I'm hungry. Can I have the leftovers? 

  Maybe we should all order in pizza. 

[peanut]

Source: Judge Filed Complaint Against Casey's Attorney

Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez's former private eye, Dominic Casey. He's the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee.
...
Eyewitness News is still working to find out the exact complaint in Conway's investigation.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html

  So does that mean that the judge won't be the judge when this comes to trial? Capp? Anyone?

It does not mean Judge "Stan the man" Strickland would be recused from the case.   He is legally obligated to report any violations.  Its an ethical obligation to file this complaint, not a sign of prejudice.

I agree its for Brad "Conman" Conway, I made a new post on 15 to clarify.  There just happens to be one filed against Macaluso as well in California.

a new one...or are you referring to the mishandling of client funds from some time back?

Yes, one and the same, not a new one.    He also has a lawsuit pending against him.   Actually, our Blink has an article on it
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/12/casey-anthony-new-attorney-todd-macaluso-under-investigation-in-cali/

thank you, thats what i thought but with this bunch you just never  know.

[joesamas mama]

Source: Judge Filed Complaint Against Casey's Attorney

Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez's former private eye, Dominic Casey. He's the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee.
...
Eyewitness News is still working to find out the exact complaint in Conway's investigation.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html

  So does that mean that the judge won't be the judge when this comes to trial? Capp? Anyone?

he can remain as the presiding judge.

Thanks Peanut, I was behind and then read Capps post after I posted my question. Maybe JSM needs to read backwards from now on. 

[joesamas mama]

Source: Judge Filed Complaint Against Casey's Attorney

Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez's former private eye, Dominic Casey. He's the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee.
...
Eyewitness News is still working to find out the exact complaint in Conway's investigation.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html

  So does that mean that the judge won't be the judge when this comes to trial? Capp? Anyone?

JSM,from my last post.


WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said the complaint wouldn't disqualify Strickland from the case and that Anthony would have to object. But Sheaffer advised against that move because other judges wouldn't be "as tolerant and as patient" as Strickland has been with Baez.

Thanks Trimm, JSM isn't very smart today. Not dumb, just has tired head. 

[Leroy]

What a complete and utter mess, and the circus just gets bigger and bigger 

YEPPERS!   

Flossy has joined a circus????