Sandra Cantu #2 4/09/09 - 4/15/09

[Wyks]

When the family first gave an interview about Sandra, there was a statement made that Sandra was on her way to play with a friend and they didn't know if she had made it there.
I thought, well how difficult is that to determine ? She made it there or she didn't. And
now it seems that it was Melissa's daughter she went to play with. Ms. Lawless was in the house, they don't say where the grandfather was.
Another thing is : Sandra told the five year old she wanted to run away. This one was courtesy of Melissa. The day after Sandra goes missing, said five year old is no longer in Tracy , going on a preplanned trip with her Grandmother. I call bs on the preplanning.
Melissa goes suddenly " crazy" and does the unthinkable and then become uncrazy in short order. Didn't her grandparents notice anything ?
Did they not know that Sandra had been at their house ? Melissa at one point said Sandra came to the door, but her daughter couldn't play as she had to clean up her room ? Grandmother was at home.

Good points KatGram! 

There was conflicting reports early on, could be because media rushed what they heard to press, without asking further questions first. 

I've heard that she went to one friends house (the lawless home), then to another friends house, played and watched part of a movie, then back toward the lawless home.

But later on it was reported that she went to one friends house (the lawless home), then to another friends house, played and watched part of a movie, then back back home for about 5 minutes.  It was reported that this is when she asked if they could go to a movie and was told they didn't have the money.  So she went back out to play, heading back over to the lawless home. 

But that last part doesn't fit what we see on the video, with her coming down the street and passing her own home, in the direction of the lawless home.

If anything, wouldn't we see Sandra leaving her own home and heading in the direction of the lawless home? 

Am sure LE has the timestamp on that video clip of when she was passing by her home.  Has the time been reported?   

[Wyks]

Hi FishstickKitty, and welcome! 

The monkey icons are fun, aren't they!!   

          

[Kat_Gram]

Melissa was re interviewed and then arrested becasue a reporter called Melissa and Meliisa told a story that was published. LE noticed there were discrepancies and that set this in motion.
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So, how did all these other persons get dragged into this ? There are sealed search warrants and there was probable cause. It is serious when LE grabs your vehicle and puts it on a flatbed truck. If I was one of the persons who had this done to them, I would be speaking to a lawyer right now to get what the probable cause was in this case. Unless I was a child porn fan, then I would just move away quietly and apply for a change of name.

[k9ohana]

In my personal opinion it is not only highly improbable but down right impossible for no one else in that trailer to have at the very least known let alone taken part in either Sandra's death or the ill conceived cover up right along side MH.
She lives with three other people (MH), Sandra was there. Whether she killed little miss Sandra at the MHP or the church (more likely) someone knew they were together.

I wonder what MH's daughter would have to say if truly questioned on the subject?

[Leroy]

In my personal opinion it is not only highly improbable but down right impossible for no one else in that trailer to have at the very least known let alone taken part in either Sandra's death or the ill conceived cover up right along side MH.
She lives with three other people (MH), Sandra was there. Whether she killed little miss Sandra at the MHP or the church (more likely) someone knew they were together.

I wonder what MH's daughter would have to say if truly questioned on the subject?

Do we know if her daughter has been questioned?  I would imagine LE has done this but I dont recall hearing/seeing anything about it.

[Kat_Gram]

Maybe I just don't want to hear Melissa's family saying anything right now. Sandra has not even been laid to rest.

[Wyks]

Melissa was re interviewed and then arrested becasue a reporter called Melissa and Meliisa told a story that was published. LE noticed there were discrepancies and that set this in motion.
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So, how did all these other persons get dragged into this ? There are sealed search warrants and there was probable cause. It is serious when LE grabs your vehicle and puts it on a flatbed truck. If I was one of the persons who had this done to them, I would be speaking to a lawyer right now to get what the probable cause was in this case. Unless I was a child porn fan, then I would just move away quietly and apply for a change of name.

What you said about Melissa's arrest and the discrepancies is exactly why I've wondered why LE hasn't arrested Misty, in Haleigh's case.  She's done the exact same thing only morrrrrrrrrre so, and no arrest yet.

Seems to me that in Sandra's case, these other POIs are somehow involved, maybe LE is still trying to sort that thru.  Cuz as you said, they had probable cause at the time.  Wouldn't be at all surprised if this with Sandra is what breaks wide open the Tracy 60 case. 

 

[no rose colored glasses]

Hi, Im new here. I've been lurking!

So I go out of town this weekend and come back to find out it's Huckaby?!?! wha??

Do we have a motive or is she just bat crazy?

I've been a webslueth for a while but this case hit close to home..I have a neice that lives in a trailor park with less than a stellar parent figure.

And kid stuff always gets to me. As it would with any normal person.


me (gotta try one of these monkey icons) 

WELCOME  LE is saying they don't have a motive, but I'm not buying that.

[Wyks]

Maybe I just don't want to hear Melissa's family saying anything right now. Sandra has not even been laid to rest.

Ahhhh true.  Maybe LE is waiting to do anything else, release any info etc, out of respect for the family.  After the funeral we may see and hear more on this case. 

[k9ohana]

Maybe I just don't want to hear Melissa's family saying anything right now. Sandra has not even been laid to rest.

Ahhhh true.  Maybe LE is waiting to do anything else, release any info etc, out of respect for the family.  After the funeral we may see and hear more on this case. 

I am with you on that.

[no rose colored glasses]

When the family first gave an interview about Sandra, there was a statement made that Sandra was on her way to play with a friend and they didn't know if she had made it there.
I thought, well how difficult is that to determine ? She made it there or she didn't. And
now it seems that it was Melissa's daughter she went to play with. Ms. Lawless was in the house, they don't say where the grandfather was.
Another thing is : Sandra told the five year old she wanted to run away. This one was courtesy of Melissa. The day after Sandra goes missing, said five year old is no longer in Tracy , going on a preplanned trip with her Grandmother. I call bs on the preplanning.
Melissa goes suddenly " crazy" and does the unthinkable and then become uncrazy in short order. Didn't her grandparents notice anything ?
Did they not know that Sandra had been at their house ? Melissa at one point said Sandra came to the door, but her daughter couldn't play as she had to clean up her room ? Grandmother was at home.

Kat, do we know that Grandmother was at home?  I think that is what Melissa said. I am not sure about this. I even wonder if her daughter was there, or had already left to go with the other grandmother.  I can see it preplanned if it was spring break. 

I am going by what Blink said, that the five year old was at home and left for a preplanned thing with the other grandmother the day after. I believe Blink pulled it from a statement from the family. There  was ( according to Melissa ) a phone call made from the Grandmother to her at the church regarding lost keys and a lost cell phone that evening.
And here is something else :
Sandra's uncle wants ( well has the urge to )  to go over to the Lawless place and beat the crap out of them. Melissa is in jail.   
It will come out, but my opinion is that Grandma knew something was up for along time and didn't care to share her information with LE.

I agree, I think grandma and grandpa had an idea for along time, how could you not?

[no rose colored glasses]

Melissa was re interviewed and then arrested becasue a reporter called Melissa and Meliisa told a story that was published. LE noticed there were discrepancies and that set this in motion.
..
So, how did all these other persons get dragged into this ? There are sealed search warrants and there was probable cause. It is serious when LE grabs your vehicle and puts it on a flatbed truck. If I was one of the persons who had this done to them, I would be speaking to a lawyer right now to get what the probable cause was in this case. Unless I was a child porn fan, then I would just move away quietly and apply for a change of name.

That's what I keep asking, what's going on with these other people?

[Leroy]

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

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• Police refused to confirm (but did not deny) that Huckaby’s two children were in protective custody.


Okay, did i miss the other child of Melissa???  I thought she only had one daughter.

[Izzy58]

I'm beginning to think that it's quite possible that Melissa did this all on her own and as far FW's statement about the suitcase he may of just been relaying the lie that Melissa told to him not knowing the real truth.

It doesn't seem that she had a job or any friends but if she was on drugs she had to be associating with someone to obtain them. It's possible she was getting her drugs from someone who lives in the trailer park.

As far as her family stating that she was a loving mother, there may of been another side of Melissa that the family didn't know about. People on drugs can be very convincing. They are also unpredictable and are capable of doing anything. Bouts of depression/mood swings can also be associated with drug use.

As to the people who had their homes searched and cars towed, I still think LE stumbled across a possible porn ring unrelated to Sandra while investigation her disappearance.

Since Melissa seems to be very unstable I do believe she will confess everything.


I tried to look for a scanner for the day the ambulances came out but unfortunately SJ county is not on the scanner list
http://ca.scanamerica.us/index.php

[Leroy]

I'm beginning to think that it's quite possible that Melissa did this all on her own and as far FW's statement about the suitcase he may of just been relaying the lie that Melissa told to him not knowing the real truth.

It doesn't seem that she had a job or any friends but if she was on drugs she had to be associating with someone to obtain them. It's possible she was getting her drugs from someone who lives in the trailer park.

As far as her family stating that she was a loving mother, there may of been another side of Melissa that the family didn't know about. People on drugs can be very convincing. They are also unpredictable and are capable of doing anything. Bouts of depression/mood swings can also be associated with drug use.

As to the people who had their homes searched and cars towed, I still think LE stumbled across a possible porn ring unrelated to Sandra while investigation her disappearance.

Since Melissa seems to be very unstable I do believe she will confess everything.


I tried to look for a scanner for the day the ambulances came out but unfortunately SJ county is not on the scanner list
http://ca.scanamerica.us/index.php

That certainly would explain a lot.  And thanks for the scanner link...i did not know that existed.

[Izzy58]

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That certainly would explain a lot.  And thanks for the scanner link...i did not know that existed.

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Welcome!  There is always something going on in my neighborhood so I do listen to the scanners every once in awhile

[no rose colored glasses]

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

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• Police refused to confirm (but did not deny) that Huckaby’s two children were in protective custody.


Okay, did i miss the other child of Melissa???  I thought she only had one daughter.

Well I heard both that she had one, and she had two. But what I'm interested in is the child or children are in protective custody. I thought the five year old was on a vacation with her grandma?

[no rose colored glasses]

That certainly would explain a lot.  And thanks for the scanner link...i did not know that existed.

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Welcome!  There is always something going on in my neighborhood so I do listen to the scanners every once in awhile
[/quote]Thanks, I didn't know about this scanner 

[theboyzmom]

So now we are hearing about bouts of depression, please, how many people across the world suffer from depression and don't kill a child and put the child in a suitcase. Her family has to be aware of more then depression in Melissa's life, she lived with her grandparents they must have noticed some disturbing actions from Melissa.

Thanks all and a few thoughts-

Her Dad initially answered a reporters question that he had no concerns other than that of a fatherly type about Melissa's emotional state. He then says she has a history of depression . Most of the communication with her is through his wife, he has not seen or spoken to her since December.

Her daughter was in kindergarden. On what basis could her Gma (lawless) take her out of school for a vacation beginning March 28th? That would be truency, and illegal where I live.

Yes it would be, I did not realize her daughter was in kindergarden. So now this brings up more questions for me. If this child is sickly and thin, did the teacher not notice that perhaps something wasn't quite right? And I wonder why the father hasn't spoken to Melissa since December?

Remember that Kindergarten is NOT required in most states - so taking her out for a vacation would not be truancy in the true sense of the word.

[Izzy58]

Does anyone know.. if any friends or acquaintances who knew Melissa besides her family has posted anything about her on any websites?  It would be interesting to hear what they have to say about her.  I have tried to keep up with the comments on the local newspaper sites but haven't come across anything. I know there was one person who she worked at a grocery store with who didn't really say much and another that she went to med billing school with that said she was kind of strange or moody but has anyone heard any other people speak out about Melissa?